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(CNBC)   In the Chicken Sandwich Wars, a new vegan front opens. One general in upcoming Vegan Chicken Sandwich Battle vows to vanquish Chick-Fil-A, proclaims "This isn't a fried piece of tofu. This is the future of chicken"   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2021-09-12 2:17:42 AM  
One of these days, I'm going to see if Nashville hit chicken can be done with deep fried tofu.
 
2021-09-12 7:35:48 AM  
If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!
 
2021-09-12 7:55:10 AM  

yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!


I read your post three times. That's all you get.
 
2021-09-12 8:03:40 AM  

August11: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

I read your post three times. That's all you get.


Need a hug?

In no way to I endorse banning meat production, just the way in which we do it, and how we fund it.
 
2021-09-12 8:11:51 AM  

yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!


That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.
 
2021-09-12 8:13:16 AM  
Oh look, its yet another cry from the self loathing vegans about how much they hate every aspect of their food choices but refuse to just eat like a real human always has
 
2021-09-12 8:15:49 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.


I hadn't been to bk in 20 years.

We go about once a month when we can't get our shiat together to feed ourselves.

That it's spendier than a subsidized beef burger is outrageous, but oh well.
 
2021-09-12 8:34:36 AM  

lifeslammer: Oh look, its yet another cry from the self loathing vegans about how much they hate every aspect of their food choices but refuse to just eat like a real human always has


I don't know if they are self-loathing, but they sure as hell are jealous.

*eats another bite of her sausage, egg and cheese breakfast biscuit*
 
2021-09-12 8:36:48 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.


I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.
 
2021-09-12 9:06:10 AM  

lindalouwho: drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.

I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.


Have you tried letting it get cold they reheating one? I got some from the White Castle down the block from me and they were okay when hot, but me thinking it's just another White castle and toss the rest in the fridge. Got up in the morning reheated them and they still act as if they were cold(brick hard).
/The workers HATE making them
 
2021-09-12 9:13:22 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: lindalouwho: drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.

I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.

Have you tried letting it get cold they reheating one? I got some from the White Castle down the block from me and they were okay when hot, but me thinking it's just another White castle and toss the rest in the fridge. Got up in the morning reheated them and they still act as if they were cold(brick hard).
/The workers HATE making them


I've had them morning after grilling at a friend's place. It was still edible.
 
2021-09-12 9:23:33 AM  

yohohogreengiant: August11: yohohogreengiant: Happy Sunday!

I read your post three times. That's all you get.

Need a hug?

In no way to I endorse banning meat production, just the way in which we do it, and how we fund it.


You see! Lobbying works!

"Most of our consumers are meat eaters," said Pinky Cole, CEO of The Slutty Vegan, by email. "My core audience is meat eaters. I'm intentional about that. We're not here to pressure anyone to commit to a full vegan diet; we want to show them that eating plant-based doesn't have to be boring or unappealing,"

This person gets it. You sir, have a chip on your shoulder.
 
2021-09-12 9:28:03 AM  

lindalouwho: drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.

I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.


We've been eating them all summer. They really are the first edible variety.

I came close to buying a box of Bubba Burgers a few times, but Mrs. August11 would have freaked right the hell out.
 
2021-09-12 9:39:11 AM  
If it's vegan it isn't chicken, no matter what it tastes\feels like.
 
2021-09-12 9:41:04 AM  

lindalouwho: drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.

I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.


Still too salty.
 
2021-09-12 9:53:58 AM  
There is no such thing as vegan chicken.
 
2021-09-12 9:54:23 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: lindalouwho: drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.

I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.

Have you tried letting it get cold they reheating one? I got some from the White Castle down the block from me and they were okay when hot, but me thinking it's just another White castle and toss the rest in the fridge. Got up in the morning reheated them and they still act as if they were cold(brick hard).
/The workers HATE making them


No I haven't, but I'd imagine it would depend on how long you cooked them to begin with. It didn't take long at all to cook, especially as opposed to cooking a beef burger.
 
2021-09-12 9:55:34 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: lindalouwho: drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.

I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.

Still too salty.


I didn't need to add salt, but they aren't in the category of high sodium foods.

https://impossiblefoods.com/blog/sodi​u​m-and-the-impossible-burger
 
2021-09-12 10:11:09 AM  
Herbie Butcher's Fried Chicken is really quite good. They do a great job with the breading (slightly crunchy and well seasoned) but if you don't like vegan chicken you may not like it and if you have any level of gluten intolerance, it may straight-up kill you. That said, it's not really all that comparable to regular old fried chicken, because it isn't chicken. It's seitan. The sides are just as good, and perhaps better than the main event. Overall, they really have a great concept and executed it perfectly. Check it out if ever in the Cities.
 
2021-09-12 11:13:46 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: lindalouwho: drjekel_mrhyde: yohohogreengiant: If poultry subsidies were cut or transferred to alternatives, there would be no fast food chicken by the following week. Nor ever again.

Even moreso with fast-food beef.

According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6

This does notinclude "externalities" of meat such as CO2, methane, runoff, erosion, water table depletion. The clean up and mitigation of those externalities in the future will dwarf current day subsidies. Nor the medical bills.

Happy Sunday!

That Impossible burger is really saving Burger Kings ass right now.

I bought Impossible Burgers at the grocery store yesterday. I must say I'm impressed and didn't expect to be. If they can bring the price down those will be a hit.

Still too salty.


Your mom's too salty.

/Yeah they're way too salty
 
2021-09-12 11:28:53 AM  
Beyond and impossible have been getting awarded contracts and a lot of notoriety. Morning Star has done a fine job for years IMO. If I'm in the mood or they're BOGO or some other reason to get them. You don't have to worry about safe temp and the nuggets can sit out all game day. If I'm eating out, I'd rather pay for real chicken.
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2021-09-12 11:51:14 AM  
Eh. This is why people don't like vegans. Why does it have to be a war? Why does it need to replace real chicken? Companies are coming up with more, better tasting foods for you which is great. Why can't you just enjoy them and leave everyone else the fark alone?
 
2021-09-12 12:28:13 PM  

Cafe Threads: lifeslammer: Oh look, its yet another cry from the self loathing vegans about how much they hate every aspect of their food choices but refuse to just eat like a real human always has

I don't know if they are self-loathing, but they sure as hell are jealous.

*eats another bite of her sausage, egg and cheese breakfast biscuit*


Somehow it just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
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2021-09-12 12:34:50 PM  

fasahd: Beyond and impossible have been getting awarded contracts and a lot of notoriety. Morning Star has done a fine job for years IMO. If I'm in the mood or they're BOGO or some other reason to get them. You don't have to worry about safe temp and the nuggets can sit out all game day. If I'm eating out, I'd rather pay for real chicken.
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this.

fake "chicken" nuggets/patties are a fairly easy dupe, because "real" chicken nuggets are merely spongy processed protein blobs that just need to be juicy, salty, and crispy-on-the-outside already. so who really cares if that is poultry protein, or pea, or soy, or shroom-based?

duping a bone-in grilled chicken breast will probably always be impossible, and that's fine, but "chickn" patties are so doable that they've already been done for years.

p.s. from the other "vegan meats" thread, i've figured out my issue with most of these "replacement" vegan foods: it NOT the actual food products (usually) it's the NAMES! it's the "pretending" mental aspect!

want to serve me some mushroom jerky or weird crispy smoked carrot strips? cool! i'll try it! but don't bother calling it "bacon". just make the plants and plant-derived proteins taste good! parts of asia have been eating lots of plant-based meals for 1000s of years, so we know it can be done. and with the exception of "mock duck" they usually don't even pretend it's a new type of meat, they just admit they are eating stuff from plants.

you don't need to make your seitan into "roast turkey loaf" -just make it delicious seitan and CALL IT THAT!

/rant over
 
2021-09-12 12:57:23 PM  
also eating more plants is good. but radical, evangelical, judgemental, "ethical" veganism is stupid.

it is NOT "the natural way" to be human. no hunter-gather human society in the history of planet earth has EVER been vegan.

sure, they ate fewer animal proteins because they were harder to acquire. and they ate much more diverse animal proteins, happily chowing down on bee larvae and other insects, a wider range of molluscs/invertebrates, mammals that are themselves carnivores as well as herbivores, more reptiles, etc.

but they never ever said "oh no, YOU eat the antelope, I'M totally content with just a handful of berries and one wild yam, you evil animal killer!"

also, american vegans who scream "let ALL the animals live!" are usually deeply deluded.

because UNLESS they are hand-raising ALL of their plant-based food with zero mechanical tillage or processing they are directly responsible for killing LOTS AND LOTS of animals. modern mechanical farming kills shiatLOADS of small mammals and lizards and frogs and snails and insects and whatnot. AND even a no-till organic farm indirectly kills some native animals through habitat loss and changing local water systems for irrigation.

and, of course, plants are also alive. unless YOU have your own chlorophyll, you MUST kill and eat living things to live. maynard has been correct this entire time: life feeds on life.
 
2021-09-12 3:39:52 PM  

fasahd: Beyond and impossible have been getting awarded contracts and a lot of notoriety. Morning Star has done a fine job for years IMO. If I'm in the mood or they're BOGO or some other reason to get them. You don't have to worry about safe temp and the nuggets can sit out all game day. If I'm eating out, I'd rather pay for real chicken.
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God i wonder why they can stay out so long and not kill you....


Ingredients
Water, wheat flour, vegetable oil (corn, canola and/or sunflower), soy protein concentrate, soy protein isolate.Contains 2% or less of yellow corn flour, wheat gluten, dextrose, methylcellulose, yeast extract, sugar, potato starch, cornstarch, wheat starch, salt, spices, natural flavors, onion powder, paprika color, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate), potassium chloride, yeast, glutamic acid, garlic powder, citric acid, xanthan gum, barley malt extract.
 
2021-09-12 4:03:42 PM  

fasahd: yohohogreengiant: August11: yohohogreengiant: Happy Sunday!

I read your post three times. That's all you get.

Need a hug?

In no way to I endorse banning meat production, just the way in which we do it, and how we fund it.

You see! Lobbying works!

"Most of our consumers are meat eaters," said Pinky Cole, CEO of The Slutty Vegan, by email. "My core audience is meat eaters. I'm intentional about that. We're not here to pressure anyone to commit to a full vegan diet; we want to show them that eating plant-based doesn't have to be boring or unappealing,"

This person gets it. You sir, have a chip on your shoulder.


Yup I don't like subsidizing an activity that is a major  cause of our ecosystem melting down.

It's also why I'm not in marketing, duh.
 
2021-09-12 4:10:34 PM  
yohohogreengiant:
Yup I don't like subsidizing an activity that is a major  cause of our ecosystem melting down.

It's also why I'm not in marketing, duh.


If you think getting the longhorn state to abort calves is our biggest concern, you get right on that and let me know how it goes
 
2021-09-12 4:31:51 PM  

fasahd: yohohogreengiant:
Yup I don't like subsidizing an activity that is a major  cause of our ecosystem melting down.

It's also why I'm not in marketing, duh.

If you think getting the longhorn state to abort calves is our biggest concern, you get right on that and let me know how it goes


I'm hoping, like pretty much everyone else outside red rural hell that Texas will decide to sucede. Yet again. This time they can just farking go.

farking useless.

It's Cali that has to give up on producing export beef/dairy to have a sustainable future. For many reasons. Their economy hardly needs it.

There isn't much hope for a sustainable Texas while it is governed by Texans.
 
2021-09-12 4:51:16 PM  
Joella's Hot Chicken has a vegan chicken that a vegan I know hates it because it's too close to meat, and someone I know who is a lifelong vegetarian from India loves it.
 
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