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(CNBC)   Saudi prince says the U.S. should not withdraw Patriot missiles from Saudi Arabia. "I mean, do the math here. Why should we pay for them when we're already getting them for free?"   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2021-09-09 7:06:18 AM  
If only they were a wealthy nation capable of buying their own shiat...
 
2021-09-09 7:08:05 AM  
It's not like they're actually useful for anything.
 
2021-09-09 7:15:06 AM  
Bomb Riyadh.
 
2021-09-09 7:49:16 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: If only they were a wealthy nation capable of buying their own shiat...


Wealthy people get and stay wealthy by Never spending their own money.
 
2021-09-09 7:50:26 AM  
Maybe replace them with a bone saw
 
2021-09-09 7:54:44 AM  
Maybe modernize your society while we're still buying oil?
 
2021-09-09 7:56:58 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: It's not like they're actually useful for anything.


Patriot missiles or Saudis?
 
2021-09-09 8:03:34 AM  
Turn over your prince\murderer to stand trial first.
 
2021-09-09 8:22:26 AM  

Opacity: Maybe replace them with a bone saw


Lol.

Automated bone saw launcher.  Deadly to Saudi journalists at a range of up to 15 miles.

Turn the damn murderer over and then you can have the missile launchers.  Until then, pay up or we take em home.
 
2021-09-09 8:23:59 AM  
I think we need to be reassured about American commitment," the prince, Saudi Arabia's former intelligence chief, told CNBC's Hadley Gamble last month.


And I think WE need to be assured about Saudi Arabian commitment to prosecute EVERYONE responsible for 9/11 when Biden declassifies the report.
 
2021-09-09 8:24:19 AM  
Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?
 
2021-09-09 8:52:45 AM  

HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?


You could say goodbye to a lot more than fuel.
 
2021-09-09 9:39:44 AM  

uberalice: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

You could say goodbye to a lot more than fuel.


That's why I said '... and oil by-products'.  *thwack* pay attention.  Trying to fix something here.
 
2021-09-09 9:49:28 AM  

HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?


The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.
 
2021-09-09 9:50:36 AM  
Funny thing:  As we move to a green economy...we will be less and less dependent on those constantly warring nations of the mideast.  And they know it.
 
2021-09-09 9:51:15 AM  
...humanity's carbon footprint.


/I'm clearly too sober to be undertaking this kind of high level cogitation.
 
2021-09-09 9:53:53 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.


Alternatives to all of that stuff exist.  Admittedly, a lot are not up to the standards produced by petroleum products - but that can drive innovation.

How long can we expect to be in a 'Mad Max' world?  It won't be forever.  A year?  two?  Can we handle that?

Desperation sparks innovation.
 
2021-09-09 9:57:41 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.


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2021-09-09 10:00:45 AM  

HansoSparxx: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.

Alternatives to all of that stuff exist.  Admittedly, a lot are not up to the standards produced by petroleum products - but that can drive innovation.

How long can we expect to be in a 'Mad Max' world?  It won't be forever.  A year?  two?  Can we handle that?

Desperation sparks innovation.


The stupid here makes the average COVIDiot look like Stephen Hawking.
 
2021-09-09 10:01:33 AM  

CheatCommando: HansoSparxx: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.

Alternatives to all of that stuff exist.  Admittedly, a lot are not up to the standards produced by petroleum products - but that can drive innovation.

How long can we expect to be in a 'Mad Max' world?  It won't be forever.  A year?  two?  Can we handle that?

Desperation sparks innovation.

The stupid here makes the average COVIDiot look like Stephen Hawking.


Why do you say that?
 
2021-09-09 10:07:14 AM  

HansoSparxx: CheatCommando: HansoSparxx: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.

Alternatives to all of that stuff exist.  Admittedly, a lot are not up to the standards produced by petroleum products - but that can drive innovation.

How long can we expect to be in a 'Mad Max' world?  It won't be forever.  A year?  two?  Can we handle that?

Desperation sparks innovation.

The stupid here makes the average COVIDiot look like Stephen Hawking.

Why do you say that?


You are talking about making petrochemicals instantly unavailable and pretending that the collapse of what is essentially the cornerstone of our transportation, power generation, and agriculture industries amongst others will be a two year blip. Fact is, it would be the farking apocalypse: you are talking billionsof deaths and a return to preindustrial society for probably a few centuries, at a bare minimum.

That's not saying that we don't need to move away from them: but your cure is the equivalent of curing an infected toe by shooting yourself in the head with a 12 gauge. Yeah, the infection dies eventually, but so does the patient.
 
2021-09-09 10:21:41 AM  

CheatCommando: You are talking about making petrochemicals instantly unavailable and pretending that the collapse of what is essentially the cornerstone of our transportation, power generation, and agriculture industries amongst others will be a two year blip. Fact is, it would be the farking apocalypse: you are talking billionsof deaths and a return to preindustrial society for probably a few centuries, at a bare minimum.

That's not saying that we don't need to move away from them: but your cure is the equivalent of curing an infected toe by shooting yourself in the head with a 12 gauge. Yeah, the infection dies eventually, but so does the patient.


Are we using the infected toe to pull the trigger or some other toe, because I want it to be as painless as possible?
 
2021-09-09 11:40:51 AM  

CheatCommando: HansoSparxx: CheatCommando: HansoSparxx: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.

Alternatives to all of that stuff exist.  Admittedly, a lot are not up to the standards produced by petroleum products - but that can drive innovation.

How long can we expect to be in a 'Mad Max' world?  It won't be forever.  A year?  two?  Can we handle that?

Desperation sparks innovation.

The stupid here makes the average COVIDiot look like Stephen Hawking.

Why do you say that?

You are talking about making petrochemicals instantly unavailable and pretending that the collapse of what is essentially the cornerstone of our transportation, power generation, and agriculture industries amongst others will be a two year blip. Fact is, it would be the farking apocalypse: you are talking billionsof deaths and a return to preindustrial society for probably a few centuries, at a bare minimum.

That's not saying that we don't need to move away from them: but your cure is the equivalent ...


Well, you are absolutely wrong.  Billions of deaths? Centuries??  Bullshiat.  Technology is HERE NOW.  We don't use it because of $$$.  Centuries, apocalypse... LOL
 
2021-09-09 1:00:04 PM  

Halfabee64: I think we need to be reassured about American commitment," the prince, Saudi Arabia's former intelligence chief, told CNBC's Hadley Gamble last month.

And I think WE need to be assured about Saudi Arabian commitment to prosecute EVERYONE responsible for 9/11 when Biden declassifies the report.


They probably would if we demanded it. American backing is far more important to them than a few mid-level Saud family members who won't be missed. That's an exceedingly small price to pay.

It should be noted, as the article mentions, that Saudi Arabia wants the full investigative report to be released.
 
2021-09-09 1:35:23 PM  

BigNumber12: Halfabee64: I think we need to be reassured about American commitment," the prince, Saudi Arabia's former intelligence chief, told CNBC's Hadley Gamble last month.

And I think WE need to be assured about Saudi Arabian commitment to prosecute EVERYONE responsible for 9/11 when Biden declassifies the report.

They probably would if we demanded it. American backing is far more important to them than a few mid-level Saud family members who won't be missed. That's an exceedingly small price to pay.

It should be noted, as the article mentions, that Saudi Arabia wants the full investigative report to be released.


What if it goes all the way to the king and Prince Bone Saw wants it released to usurp him, or Prince Bone Saw is implicated himself and they do nothing?
 
2021-09-09 3:25:10 PM  

HansoSparxx: CheatCommando: HansoSparxx: CheatCommando: HansoSparxx: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: HansoSparxx: Hypothetical - if something were to happen to the planet's entire oil reserve - rendering it useless as a substance to create anything - how long will it take for society to switch over to alternate fuel and oil by-product sources?

What kind of effect could we expect to happen in the mean time?  Deaths?, diseases?, starvation?

What steps could we take to prevent the negative effects from happening?

The negative effects of all transport and communication systems breaking down, right before the entire agricultural industry fails?

Nothing. There's nothing we could do to prevent the negative effects.

However the best way to minimize those negative effects would be to embrace them fully. If we all go Mad Max at the first opportunity and start hunting our neighbours in order to feast on their rich and nutritious brain goop, then we will both reduce the population facing food insecurity, while hugely reducing humanities carbon footprint.

At this point cannibalism really is the sanest option.

Alternatives to all of that stuff exist.  Admittedly, a lot are not up to the standards produced by petroleum products - but that can drive innovation.

How long can we expect to be in a 'Mad Max' world?  It won't be forever.  A year?  two?  Can we handle that?

Desperation sparks innovation.

The stupid here makes the average COVIDiot look like Stephen Hawking.

Why do you say that?

You are talking about making petrochemicals instantly unavailable and pretending that the collapse of what is essentially the cornerstone of our transportation, power generation, and agriculture industries amongst others will be a two year blip. Fact is, it would be the farking apocalypse: you are talking billionsof deaths and a return to preindustrial society for probably a few centuries, at a bare minimum.

That's not saying that we don't need to move away from them: but your cure is ...


Tomorrow I kill all petrochemicals. How does your technology get made? How do the people who are going to make it get anywhere or get food to eat? I am not saying we don't need to replace them - I am saying that the idea of making them unavailable instantly with no preparation is pants on the head stupid and would kill billions before your replacements would be available.

. Now if you want to discuss a reasonable, phased in approach to their replacement, that is an entirely different kettle of fish. I am still worried about phosphates for agriculture, and fuel for long haul transport (although I suppose nuclear energy could step in there, if you trust Liberian flagged reactors in your ports) but there are certainly steps that can be taken.

But I do think nuclear power is going to have to be one of those if you want to replace them quickly. Some of the chemicals can be derived from other sources, but they need a lot of energy to do so. Nuclear is the only thing that surpasses the energy density of fossil fuels. In the longer run, you might be able to bioengineer some plants to provide some of those materials as well, but there are even bigger issues around genetic engineering than there are around nuclear power.
 
2021-09-09 4:47:18 PM  

Halfabee64: BigNumber12: Halfabee64: I think we need to be reassured about American commitment," the prince, Saudi Arabia's former intelligence chief, told CNBC's Hadley Gamble last month.

And I think WE need to be assured about Saudi Arabian commitment to prosecute EVERYONE responsible for 9/11 when Biden declassifies the report.

They probably would if we demanded it. American backing is far more important to them than a few mid-level Saud family members who won't be missed. That's an exceedingly small price to pay.

It should be noted, as the article mentions, that Saudi Arabia wants the full investigative report to be released.

What if it goes all the way to the king and Prince Bone Saw wants it released to usurp him, or Prince Bone Saw is implicated himself and they do nothing?


It doesn't, though. Neither is a religious zealot, or would have had anything to gain by sponsoring an attack on KSA's most powerful backer as they were maneuvering for position within the House of Saud back in 2001.
 
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