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(AP News)   Taiwan pokes the Dragon with a homemade carrier killer   (apnews.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, World War II, President Tsai Ing-wen, People's Liberation Army, indigenous defense capacity, part of the island, Military, fighter jets, production of new trainer jets  
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2021-09-09 8:32:27 AM  
I bet The Rebel Territories of West Taiwan are shaking in their boots.
 
2021-09-09 9:52:18 AM  
Sounds cool, but thats just for public consumption.  China's most important aircraft carrier in any Taiwan conflict is China itself, you don't need an aircraft carrier when there are dozens or hundreds of airfields on the actual land right next to Taiwan.
 
2021-09-09 9:54:41 AM  
Because "Made in Taiwan" has been an imposing mark of quality and strength for so long...
 
2021-09-09 9:58:40 AM  
"Carrier killer" sounds great, but unless you pair it with a "sub killer", it's not going to last long. Good for them for preparing for the worst, but having China as a direct threat AND a direct neighbor makes it really, really difficult to build an effective defense.
 
2021-09-09 10:00:00 AM  
"peaceful reunification"

- Guy sitting in a car drinking whiskey and stroking his gun outside his ex-girlfriends house
 
2021-09-09 10:00:58 AM  
What a carrier killer may look like

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2021-09-09 10:01:19 AM  
West Taiwan is getting upset!!

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2021-09-09 10:01:39 AM  

FormlessOne: Because "Made in Taiwan" has been an imposing mark of quality and strength for so long...


You know nothing about modern computer chips I take it.
 
2021-09-09 10:01:45 AM  

FormlessOne: Because "Made in Taiwan" has been an imposing mark of quality and strength for so long...


It... actually has been. Now Vietnam and Thailand etc are the home of cheaply made sweatshop stuff, Taiwan is making your video cards and the CPUs that go into the iPhones that China barely pays people to slap together.
 
2021-09-09 10:01:59 AM  
China is like an abusive husband after a divorce, still stalking and taking about how he and his ex are going to make up and be together again.
Meanwhile Taiwan bought a gun and is putting bars on the windows.
 
2021-09-09 10:03:55 AM  

Private_Citizen: China is like an abusive husband after a divorce, still stalking and taking about how he and his ex are going to make up and be together again.
Meanwhile Taiwan bought a gun and is putting bars on the windows.


Presenting this as a contest between two sides that are roughly evenly matched is about as wrong as you can get
 
2021-09-09 10:04:22 AM  
I think when this finally goes down, there won't be a shot fired. Papers will be signed, money will change hands, and that will be the end of it.
 
2021-09-09 10:04:43 AM  
I'm next aren't I...don't cry for me R-410A
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2021-09-09 10:13:43 AM  

Meatsim1: Sounds cool, but thats just for public consumption.  China's most important aircraft carrier in any Taiwan conflict is China itself, you don't need an aircraft carrier when there are dozens or hundreds of airfields on the actual land right next to Taiwan.


In the end, it will probably be something like what happened in Crimea -- except W.Taiwan will probably be honest about it -- much gnashing of teeth and consternation, but no WW3. One hopes, anyways.

It's one thing to support a plucky democracy for 70 years -- it's made for good press for American "making the world safe for democracy" narrative, but China has centuries of that island being part of their country. Millenia, even. Kind of an historically legitimate claim.
 
2021-09-09 10:25:19 AM  
When my sister would pick up the phone while I was playing multiplayer Doom 2, that was a real carrier killer.
 
2021-09-09 10:26:50 AM  

RasIanI: Meatsim1: Sounds cool, but thats just for public consumption.  China's most important aircraft carrier in any Taiwan conflict is China itself, you don't need an aircraft carrier when there are dozens or hundreds of airfields on the actual land right next to Taiwan.

In the end, it will probably be something like what happened in Crimea -- except W.Taiwan will probably be honest about it -- much gnashing of teeth and consternation, but no WW3. One hopes, anyways.

It's one thing to support a plucky democracy for 70 years -- it's made for good press for American "making the world safe for democracy" narrative, but China has centuries of that island being part of their country. Millenia, even. Kind of an historically legitimate claim.


Dunno. Putin invaded Ukraine like a creeper on the subway invading your personal space an inch at a time.

Taiwan has a moat.

I'm thinking that when/if it goes down, it's going to be pretty dramatic.
 
2021-09-09 10:32:07 AM  
Do they mean "phone carrier" because that thing looks like it would have trouble taking out a Verizon work van.
 
2021-09-09 10:35:18 AM  

RasIanI: but China has centuries of that island being part of their country. Millenia, even. Kind of an historically legitimate claim.


Millenia no, they have had some degree of control since the 1300s but its been disputed by several nations and was most recently owned by Japan for 50 years.  Not even getting into how complicated alliances were in the middle ages in China
 
2021-09-09 11:01:21 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think when this finally goes down, there won't be a shot fired. Papers will be signed, money will change hands, and that will be the end of it.


China will simply buy them out, why fire a shot when they can just do a corporate merger
 
2021-09-09 11:03:17 AM  
Hey guys! Taiwan is a country!
 
2021-09-09 11:14:43 AM  
Would China really bother with a carrier in the straight between them or on the other side of the island? Seems like a sub or a jet would take it out fast. And don't they only have one pile of shiat carrier bought from Russia? I guess it's more to sink landing craft.
 
2021-09-09 11:18:58 AM  

qorkfiend: Private_Citizen: China is like an abusive husband after a divorce, still stalking and taking about how he and his ex are going to make up and be together again.
Meanwhile Taiwan bought a gun and is putting bars on the windows.

Presenting this as a contest between two sides that are roughly evenly matched is about as wrong as you can get


China, though throwing bales down the memory hole, should stop and examine what happened when they invaded Vietnam in 1979.

narrator:  it did not go well at all
 
2021-09-09 11:31:13 AM  
FIST!


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2021-09-09 11:37:34 AM  

NuclearPenguins: FormlessOne: Because "Made in Taiwan" has been an imposing mark of quality and strength for so long...

You know nothing about modern computer chips I take it.


And if this was a GPU, sure, that might be relevant.
 
2021-09-09 11:38:44 AM  

Chthonic Echoes: RasIanI: Meatsim1: Sounds cool, but thats just for public consumption.  China's most important aircraft carrier in any Taiwan conflict is China itself, you don't need an aircraft carrier when there are dozens or hundreds of airfields on the actual land right next to Taiwan.

In the end, it will probably be something like what happened in Crimea -- except W.Taiwan will probably be honest about it -- much gnashing of teeth and consternation, but no WW3. One hopes, anyways.

It's one thing to support a plucky democracy for 70 years -- it's made for good press for American "making the world safe for democracy" narrative, but China has centuries of that island being part of their country. Millenia, even. Kind of an historically legitimate claim.

Dunno. Putin invaded Ukraine like a creeper on the subway invading your personal space an inch at a time.

Taiwan has a moat.

I'm thinking that when/if it goes down, it's going to be pretty dramatic.


Perhaps -- but it will probably be a de facto situation -- quick.
 
2021-09-09 12:51:33 PM  

FormlessOne: Because "Made in Taiwan" has been an imposing mark of quality and strength for so long...


Oh neat, a time traveler on Fark. How surprised were you to discover that we'd had a President Trump?
 
2021-09-09 12:53:50 PM  
Taiwan doesn't need to sink China's aircraft carriers, such as they are. They don't even really need to sink the CPC's amphibious landing craft. What they do need to do is hit China's mainland staging areas in Fujian. Farking up the ports in Quanzhou and Fuzhou would slow down an invasion considerably.
 
2021-09-09 1:07:07 PM  

Jubeebee: Taiwan doesn't need to sink China's aircraft carriers, such as they are. They don't even really need to sink the CPC's amphibious landing craft. What they do need to do is hit China's mainland staging areas in Fujian. Farking up the ports in Quanzhou and Fuzhou would slow down an invasion considerably.


They need to make resupply of any invasion force extremely difficult. Lots of hard to target anti-ship missiles and stingers could make logistics over the strait really difficult.
 
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