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2021-09-07 4:57:55 PM  
I hate 9/11 "truthers" only slightly more than JFK conspiracy theorists.
 
2021-09-07 6:03:55 PM  
I've known three 9/11 truthers.  They were all complete losers.   That's a pattern.
 
2021-09-07 6:06:26 PM  
Why do these truthers have sex with pillows and can't get a real date? Hey, I'm just asking questions. Do they moan their mother's name at orgasm, or their favorite anime character's name? Are they wearing their little sisters underwear while they do it, or do they put those on after?

What? I'm just asking questions. What are they hiding? If they're innocent, they've got nothing to hide.
 
2021-09-07 6:07:11 PM  
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2021-09-07 6:07:11 PM  
Have they ID'd any perps yet?
 
2021-09-07 6:07:14 PM  
The one guy at work who loudly claims 9/11 was an inside job also proudly asserts he damaged his brain using too many drugs.

/why yes, it was methamphetamine
//how did you ever guess?
 
2021-09-07 6:09:08 PM  
I used to work with a guy who totally believed 9/11 was an inside job by the Jews (he even has a newsletter).

Don't know who was crazier, him or the "Dolphin Lover" I also worked with at the same time.

They were Florida Men before there was a Florida Man meme.
 
2021-09-07 6:09:09 PM  
Facebook and twitter are not worth the trouble. Youtube is good only for watching music videos.
 
2021-09-07 6:11:58 PM  

WastrelWay: Facebook and twitter are not worth the trouble. Youtube is good only for watching music videos.


I go down the rabbit hole of 9/11 conspiracy theorists, just for the shear fun - especially folks claiming "bad CGI." No, you dumb fark, video at that time was still 24 seconds per frame. That's why when you go frame by frame there are gaps in the motion!
 
2021-09-07 6:12:33 PM  
My younger brother has started buying into 9/11 truther shiat, he's also antivax as well.  Weirdly enough he's on year seven of getting his four-year degree.
 
2021-09-07 6:12:46 PM  

Catsaregreen: I used to work with a guy who totally believed 9/11 was an inside job by the Jews (he even has a newsletter).

Don't know who was crazier, him or the "Dolphin Lover" I also worked with at the same time.

They were Florida Men before there was a Florida Man meme.


Damn...what kind of a work environment had such weirdos?
 
2021-09-07 6:14:03 PM  

The_Sponge: Catsaregreen: I used to work with a guy who totally believed 9/11 was an inside job by the Jews (he even has a newsletter).

Don't know who was crazier, him or the "Dolphin Lover" I also worked with at the same time.

They were Florida Men before there was a Florida Man meme.

Damn...what kind of a work environment had such weirdos?


They worked for the State Department
 
2021-09-07 6:14:57 PM  
I remember when Loose Change was going around -- and then Zeitgeist.

On both occasions, the person who insisted I watch -- they always insist.

I always thought they were preposterous. Especially with Loose Change -- no matter how much I disliked GWB, I just could never wrap my brain around the idea that he could committ mass murder in a conspiracy.

Bomb millions of brown people, sure -- he had institutional legitimacy in doing so, regardless of how evil.
 
2021-09-07 6:16:41 PM  

The_Sponge: Catsaregreen: I used to work with a guy who totally believed 9/11 was an inside job by the Jews (he even has a newsletter).

Don't know who was crazier, him or the "Dolphin Lover" I also worked with at the same time.

They were Florida Men before there was a Florida Man meme.

Damn...what kind of a work environment had such weirdos?


The Charlotte Sun in Port Charlotte!
 
2021-09-07 6:17:24 PM  
9/11 trutherism has been replaced by covid trutherism.

But should we tolerate any trutherism? By tolerate I mean draw attention to it, and by doing that lending credence to it. Telling anybody what a truther believes is a slippery slope toward spreading trutherism further. We have seen nothing good come out of trutherism, or from reporting its existence in the news. All that does is cast a spotlight on it, and make idiots who are impressionable say "Hmm, duuuh, that guy has a point!"

We could do ourselves a huge, huge favor by ignoring the fark out of trutherism. Don't report it in the news. Don't discuss it in television broadcasts. Don't give people any reason to focus on it. No documentaries, no farkin anything.

A good example would be people saying we never landed on the moon. We know people believe that stupidity. We don't have people going on and on about it on cable news every day, so why do we have them going on and on about covid trutherism? Bury it. BURY IT. It's not a story. Don't make it one. Let's press on.
 
2021-09-07 6:17:51 PM  
"Knock Knock"
"Who's There?"
"9/11"
"9/11 Who?"
"*GASP!* You said you'd never forget!!!"
 
2021-09-07 6:18:26 PM  
I have a former friend who claims that 9/11 was a giant form of insurance fraud.
 
2021-09-07 6:18:47 PM  
This strained my relationship with my brother. His Sandy Hook truther BS turned it into s relationsh*t.

When these assholes come up with this shiat they should be forced into a chair and have to stare at pictures of the real human suffering that comes as a result of these tragedies. If a crime scene photo of a room full of dead grade school kids doesn't change your mind then you're of no further value to society that I can see.
 
2021-09-07 6:21:09 PM  
It's like they live in this bizarre fantasy world where water runs uphill and dogs speak Latin.
 
2021-09-07 6:21:37 PM  

The_Sponge: Catsaregreen: I used to work with a guy who totally believed 9/11 was an inside job by the Jews (he even has a newsletter).

Don't know who was crazier, him or the "Dolphin Lover" I also worked with at the same time.

They were Florida Men before there was a Florida Man meme.

Damn...what kind of a work environment had such weirdos?


Our hospital and clinic.
 
2021-09-07 6:24:13 PM  

Snapper Carr: [Fark user image 500x566]


"Jet FuEL CaN'T meLT StEEl BeaMs" was always one of those super-convenient tells that a person had no clue what they were talking about. Very handy.

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https://doi.org/10.1061/(ASCE)MT.1943​-​5533.0000600
 
2021-09-07 6:24:55 PM  

Rucker10: This strained my relationship with my brother. His Sandy Hook truther BS turned it into s relationsh*t.

When these assholes come up with this shiat they should be forced into a chair and have to stare at pictures of the real human suffering that comes as a result of these tragedies. If a crime scene photo of a room full of dead grade school kids doesn't change your mind then you're of no further value to society that I can see.


I feel you man, that shiat destroys relationships.
 
2021-09-07 6:28:29 PM  

Theeng: My younger brother has started buying into 9/11 truther shiat, he's also antivax as well.  Weirdly enough he's on year seven of getting his four-year degree.


I hope its not in thermodynamics or mechanical engineering
 
2021-09-07 6:28:31 PM  
The three generals that told the Air Force to stand down all got promoted.
 
2021-09-07 6:29:13 PM  
America has 330 million people in it. Tens of millions of them are stupid. A similar number are mentally ill. There's some overlap there. (shrug)

But, hey, as long as SOMEBODY will pay attention to them, the ridicule is worth it.

Being ridiculed is better than being ignored, if you're a particularly sad idiot.
 
2021-09-07 6:29:23 PM  

Catsaregreen: WastrelWay: Facebook and twitter are not worth the trouble. Youtube is good only for watching music videos.

I go down the rabbit hole of 9/11 conspiracy theorists, just for the shear fun - especially folks claiming "bad CGI." No, you dumb fark, video at that time was still 24 seconds per frame. That's why when you go frame by frame there are gaps in the motion!


24 seconds per frame leaves a lot of gaps...
 
2021-09-07 6:31:50 PM  

Theeng: Rucker10: This strained my relationship with my brother. His Sandy Hook truther BS turned it into s relationsh*t.

When these assholes come up with this shiat they should be forced into a chair and have to stare at pictures of the real human suffering that comes as a result of these tragedies. If a crime scene photo of a room full of dead grade school kids doesn't change your mind then you're of no further value to society that I can see.

I feel you man, that shiat destroys relationships.


CONSPIRACY THEORIES CAN'T MELT THE TIES THAT BIND
 
2021-09-07 6:32:12 PM  

DRTFA: Catsaregreen: WastrelWay: Facebook and twitter are not worth the trouble. Youtube is good only for watching music videos.

I go down the rabbit hole of 9/11 conspiracy theorists, just for the shear fun - especially folks claiming "bad CGI." No, you dumb fark, video at that time was still 24 seconds per frame. That's why when you go frame by frame there are gaps in the motion!

24 seconds per frame leaves a lot of gaps...


That's like showing a video in a zoom meeting
 
HFK
2021-09-07 6:34:01 PM  
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2021-09-07 6:34:36 PM  
911 truthers, jfk conspiracy theorists, moon hoaxers, qanon....

KREMLIN
KREMLIN
KREMLIN
KREMLIN
 
2021-09-07 6:34:41 PM  

Theeng: My younger brother has started buying into 9/11 truther shiat, he's also antivax as well.  Weirdly enough he's on year seven of getting his four-year degree.


degree in what?
 
2021-09-07 6:34:59 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: The three generals that told the Air Force to stand down all got promoted.


Checkmate
 
2021-09-07 6:35:05 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Snapper Carr: [Fark user image 500x566]

"Jet FuEL CaN'T meLT StEEl BeaMs" was always one of those super-convenient tells that a person had no clue what they were talking about. Very handy.

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https://doi.org/10.1061/(ASCE)MT.1943-​5533.0000600


Impact welds are also a thing, that energy has to go somewhere
 
2021-09-07 6:35:35 PM  

The_Sponge: Catsaregreen: I used to work with a guy who totally believed 9/11 was an inside job by the Jews (he even has a newsletter).

Don't know who was crazier, him or the "Dolphin Lover" I also worked with at the same time.

They were Florida Men before there was a Florida Man meme.

Damn...what kind of a work environment had such weirdos?


Welcome to our world, America... Humanity teems with conspiracy theories, and widespread literacy is actually a preserve of developed countries. Latin Americans live convinced that the USA has its entire attention fixated on them; the biggest conspiracy theory, the lunatic concept that the USA has "sucked" all its wealth from Latin American natural resources, was codified into a book, "Las venas abiertas de America Latina" (Latin America's open veins) that is the gospel of the regions loony left, and more or less the worldview of 90% of its population, from the favelas to the gated mansions of the elite. At the height of his madness, Hugo Chavez gave Barack Obama the book at an international summit, to "speak truth to the oppressors".

While the coalescence of right and left around the idea of the Great Satan is uniquely LatAm, conspiracy theories are the bread and butter of the world's population. I've had a Serbian colleague declare with full gravitas that Chernobyl was a CIA job, and 2 German colleagues assent learnedly; the Trumpanzee explosion in Germany is not casual, and shows how deep the delusions planted by centuries of "alternate facts" run, especially in the non-deprogrammed Eastern generations... The Serbs have killed millions throughout history in the name of their tortured view of history as an endless anti-Serb barrage, Poland still dreams of its feudal past, and Russia... well, its difficult relationship with reality, helped along by liberal doses of rotgut and isolation, has been amply documented.

The spread of the truther-birther-Qanus-antivax rot is just the final contagion of the worldwide epidemic of stupid that has blighted humanity forever. America did not invent this, and America did not make the world believe nutso gibberish; the only thing Big Tech made possible was the infection of that part of the American people that had been more or less immunized by education.
 
2021-09-07 6:35:52 PM  

Theeng: My younger brother has started buying into 9/11 truther shiat, he's also antivax as well.  Weirdly enough he's on year seven of getting his four-year degree.


The Tommy Callahan college plan?
 
2021-09-07 6:36:10 PM  

zjoik: Theeng: My younger brother has started buying into 9/11 truther shiat, he's also antivax as well.  Weirdly enough he's on year seven of getting his four-year degree.

I hope its not in thermodynamics or mechanical engineering


Pharmacology unfortunately, but yeah that conspiracy theory shiat rots your brain.
 
2021-09-07 6:37:19 PM  
The truth of 9/11 was the buildings were brought down by a bullet shot by Oswald in 1963. One the bullets missed then went into outer space where it received a gravity assist by Jupiter and a few other planets, then it came back to Earth at near half the speed of light to destroy the Twin Towers. They knew this would happen as they were tracking the bullet but couldn't stop it so they came up with the CGI of the planes hitting the Two Towers to cover up the truth. It could happen. Study it out.
 
2021-09-07 6:39:12 PM  

Theeng: Pharmacology


meth, fentanyl or LSD production?
 
2021-09-07 6:39:21 PM  

Befuddled: The truth of 9/11 was the buildings were brought down by a bullet shot by Oswald in 1963. One the bullets missed then went into outer space where it received a gravity assist by Jupiter and a few other planets, then it came back to Earth at near half the speed of light to destroy the Twin Towers. They knew this would happen as they were tracking the bullet but couldn't stop it so they came up with the CGI of the planes hitting the Two Towers to cover up the truth. It could happen. Study it out.


The round was made of compressed steel memes
 
2021-09-07 6:41:28 PM  

bughunter: The one guy at work who loudly claims 9/11 was an inside job also proudly asserts he damaged his brain using too many drugs.

/why yes, it was methamphetamine
//how did you ever guess?


This your co-worker?

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2021-09-07 6:42:07 PM  

Theeng: zjoik: Theeng: My younger brother has started buying into 9/11 truther shiat, he's also antivax as well.  Weirdly enough he's on year seven of getting his four-year degree.

I hope its not in thermodynamics or mechanical engineering

Pharmacology unfortunately, but yeah that conspiracy theory shiat rots your brain.


Bad:  it took your pharmacologist 7 years to get his/her degree.

Worse: is a 9/11 truther

Even worse: anti VAX

Fark: during covid
 
2021-09-07 6:43:37 PM  
I have a buddy that is an ironworker. I bug him that 9/11 was an inside job by Ironworkers to try and save face by hiding poor craftsmanship that was causing the building to prematurely fail.
 
2021-09-07 6:45:11 PM  
I mean, a tower in Miami recently collapsed all on its own.
Obviously smashing a commercial jet into one is going to knock it over.
 
2021-09-07 6:46:52 PM  

MillionDollarMo: I mean, a tower in Miami recently collapsed all on its own.
Obviously smashing a commercial jet into one is going to knock it over.


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2021-09-07 6:47:18 PM  
I think that the thing that 9/11 really accomplished was to enshrine Facebook, now Twitter and Instagram, and YouTube as sources of misinformation that were much more difficult to disprove than we thought. It's one thing to find an OCR scan of a mimeographed sheet that is conveniently "redacted" in all the right places on some conspiracy nut's geocities site that says that the government was involved in "something". Easily discounted disproven and shoved aside.

No you have convincing sounding people doing video essays with decent-looking Graphics that are much more believable looking simply because they look slick. By the time you have done the research to disprove that one the same author has published three more disinformation pieces.

The internet completely failed us in all of its promises and 9/11 was one of the big examples of that.
 
2021-09-07 6:50:15 PM  
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2021-09-07 6:50:43 PM  

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"I can suck a man dry in 30 seconds" - Barnabas Collins
 
2021-09-07 6:52:34 PM  
You can connect people who are susceptible to conspiracy theories and they will believe any and all.

They suffer from three basic problems of belief.

1.  They don't want to accept that they might be wrong (because if they are it might upset their warped world view)
2.  They don't want to argue in such a way as to gather evidence to build an argument (way too hard, and that would force them to look at whether their sources know wtf they are talking about)
3.  They don't want to accept that 80% certainty about an event taking place or whatever is pretty near certain. I'm other words, if I say "in all likelihood, while I'm not 100% certain, the evidence seems 85% certain that AQ did it..."  (They respond with "see!  You don't know do you!!")
 
2021-09-07 6:56:09 PM  
My question was always this.

Let's say 9/11 was indeed an inside job. Explosives planted, missile, etc. How many people would have to be involved and either paid off or killed?

Planting explosives inside the walls of two of the largest skyscrapers on earth is no small feat. You have to buy the bombs, transport them into the city, find a way to open up the walls without anyone noticing. The planes were there so you need to also pay off a ton of TSA folks to allow the hijacking. Bribe a bunch of air traffic controllers so they won't reveal the missile in DC (or secret plane switcheroos or whatever). You need to bribe the military's top brass so they won't stop it. Plus a bunch of middlemen and operations experts to coordinate the whole thing. Probably some accountants and engineers. Plus some people to hire the team.

Like, it gets unweildy after a while. This is so much smaller than Watergate but all those schmucks shared a workplace and still blabbled.
 
2021-09-07 6:56:27 PM  

freakay: You can connect people who are susceptible to conspiracy theories and they will believe any and all.

They suffer from three basic problems of belief.

1.  They don't want to accept that they might be wrong (because if they are it might upset their warped world view)
2.  They don't want to argue in such a way as to gather evidence to build an argument (way too hard, and that would force them to look at whether their sources know wtf they are talking about)
3.  They don't want to accept that 80% certainty about an event taking place or whatever is pretty near certain. I'm other words, if I say "in all likelihood, while I'm not 100% certain, the evidence seems 85% certain that AQ did it..."  (They respond with "see!  You don't know do you!!")


Uh oh. You just described roughly 99% of the PolTab regulars.
 
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