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2021-09-03 9:46:13 AM  
You mean a violent gang of low-IQ bullies who are used to getting away with everything is not cooperating with an audit that might hold them accountable?!?!?!?

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2021-09-03 9:50:19 AM  
It's Missouri!

We want our own tag, and insist on doing the most embarrassing stuff imaginable until we get our own tag.

/ looking at you Drew
 
2021-09-03 9:54:27 AM  
It took issue with the auditor's use of IRS mileage rates and said it caused the costs cited in the audit to be wildly inaccurate.

It is my understand that IRS mileage rates are WILDLY conservative.
 
2021-09-03 9:58:24 AM  
A gang of thieving murderers isn't going to respect the law.
 
2021-09-03 10:31:12 AM  
Missouri? It's a lost cause.
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2021-09-03 11:20:00 AM  
Cool. Suspend their budget.
 
2021-09-03 11:21:55 AM  
No other government entity in Missouri gets a blank check. What makes these guys so special?
 
2021-09-03 11:44:47 AM  
Sounds like its time to stop paying them.

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2021-09-03 11:53:41 AM  
So, the police department has gone rogue?

When are we going to address the fact that the police don't do their farking jobs.
 
2021-09-03 11:53:55 AM  
Is it ok to defund them now?
 
2021-09-03 11:56:14 AM  
Police - the best armed, richest, most untouchable street gang in the nation.

You think the crips and bloods get serious over gang colors, don't even Think about crossing the boys in blue.

Sounds like the city council and the auditors are going to suffer a serious bout of "policing".
 
2021-09-03 11:56:39 AM  
Welp, the solution is clear: Execute them all for failure to comply.
 
2021-09-03 11:58:10 AM  

Majin_Buu: Welp, the solution is clear: Execute them all for failure to comply.


Why? Just stop letting them take the cars home.

/why such an extreme reaction?
 
2021-09-03 11:59:00 AM  
Sounds more like they've set up a protection racket rather than  a police force answerable to the public and their elected representatives.
 
2021-09-03 12:00:30 PM  

Majin_Buu: Welp, the solution is clear: Execute them all for failure to comply.


Taser them until they stop resisting. Then shoot the ones who still twitch.
 
2021-09-03 12:00:59 PM  

Fart_Machine: Is it ok to defund them now?


Not if Farkers have anything to say about it. According to like half this site, Black people objecting to being murdered by the police is why the Democrats didn't win more elections. Somehow.
 
2021-09-03 12:02:35 PM  
Fire them all... Like... How hard is this?
 
2021-09-03 12:03:03 PM  

NewportBarGuy: It took issue with the auditor's use of IRS mileage rates and said it caused the costs cited in the audit to be wildly inaccurate.

It is my understand that IRS mileage rates are WILDLY conservative.


Conservative estimation is definitely a form of inaccuracy. What's more jaw droopingly stupid is that their union contract uses the IRS rate for reimbursement, but SUDENLY it's wildly inaccurate.
 
2021-09-03 12:05:44 PM  
A free car is a perk for the officers who toe the Department line, whatever illegal thing that might be.  It builds unit cohesion, which helps keep everybody's stories straight.
 
2021-09-03 12:06:11 PM  

Private_Citizen: Police - the best armed, richest, most untouchable street gang in the nation.

You think the crips and bloods get serious over gang colors, don't even Think about crossing the boys in blue.

Sounds like the city council and the auditors are going to suffer a serious bout of "policing".


Reminds me of a video I saw about gangs in the LA police department. This article is a bit more digestible: https://www.independent.c​o.uk/news/wor​ld/americas/police-gangs-la-sheriff-ex​ecutioners-b1862105.html

I'm still not sure how I feel about it, how true it is, if it's true, if gang is the right word. Or if it's the right word, maybe we're mischaracterizing what a "gang" is entirely. 

Anyway, food for thought at least.
 
2021-09-03 12:08:23 PM  
Shocking. Oh, wait, no. The opposite of that.
 
2021-09-03 12:09:27 PM  
Sounds like they should stop paying the cops until they comply...
 
2021-09-03 12:10:35 PM  

SpectroBoy: You mean a violent gang of low-IQ bullies who are used to getting away with everything is not cooperating with an audit that might hold them accountable?!?!?!?


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2021-09-03 12:11:36 PM  
FTA:
The department is governed by a state entity, the Board of Police Commissioners, not by the city. Lack of local control means there's no easy way to make the department comply with the rules of a city audit.

you know who else took control of local police out of the hands of locals and consolidated it under a state entity?
 
2021-09-03 12:14:06 PM  

Into The Water With Rocks In Your Pockets: Majin_Buu: Welp, the solution is clear: Execute them all for failure to comply.

Why? Just stop letting them take the cars home.

/why such an extreme reaction?


Better still, tax them for the benefit.
 
2021-09-03 12:15:21 PM  

Teddy Brosevelt: Fire them all... Like... How hard is this?


As per TFA the city has no actual authority over the police.
 
2021-09-03 12:15:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: It took issue with the auditor's use of IRS mileage rates and said it caused the costs cited in the audit to be wildly inaccurate.

It is my understand that IRS mileage rates are WILDLY conservative.


I don't know what the tax laws are like now, but I used to have a company provided van I drove for work.  At the time (25 years ago) the IRS considered that mileage a benefit and it had an impact on my taxable income.

Could this mileage be deliberately not tracked so these fine fellows are underreporting their taxes?

Nah, that would never happen.
 
2021-09-03 12:17:24 PM  

Teddy Brosevelt: Fire them all... Like... How hard is this?


Better yet, shoot them all
 
2021-09-03 12:18:20 PM  

SpectroBoy: You mean a violent gang of low-IQ bullies who are used to getting away with everything is not cooperating with an audit that might hold them accountable?!?!?!?

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BUT DON'T YOU DARE SAY WE SHOULD DEFUND THEM!!1!
 
2021-09-03 12:21:01 PM  

Teddy Brosevelt: Fire them all... Like... How hard is this?


start firing them until you get a completed audit.  5 or 6 a week.
eventually you'll either have an audit or noone using assets to audit.
mission accomplished.
 
2021-09-03 12:21:18 PM  

beezeltown: Cool. Suspend their budget.


This is the correct answer. Just stop sending them money. And then stop answering the phone.
 
2021-09-03 12:26:24 PM  

Into The Water With Rocks In Your Pockets: Majin_Buu: Welp, the solution is clear: Execute them all for failure to comply.

Why? Just stop letting them take the cars home.

/why such an extreme reaction?


My right wing cop relatives all drive the company car home, and then biatch about socialism.  "Your grandfather was a firefighter, and he never once drove the firetruck home."
 
2021-09-03 12:27:41 PM  
I thought this was about those first amendment auditor folks, which ... are a mixed bag of dope accountability paladins and Q-anon, antivax sovcits.  Thought this was gonna be borderline controversial and "justifiable" by the cops.

Nope.  This is tacit admission of straight up internal criminal activity.
 
2021-09-03 12:28:56 PM  

RandolphCarter: Could this mileage be deliberately not tracked so these fine fellows are underreporting their taxes?


I would bet a case of the beer of your choice that is exactly what it is about.  Last I checked IRS gave you 51 cents a mile.   A cop taking the company car home every day is going to see it as money that cop math can't get away with.
 
2021-09-03 12:33:42 PM  
This bunch looks like they want to be the poster children for a full defunding.  Personally, I'm against a blanket defunding, but you need to have that option in your back pocket for rogue departments.  Multiply them by zero and start over on your terms, not theirs.
 
2021-09-03 12:36:43 PM  
Who is the Police Department accountable to?


Whoever can overpower them in a fight.
 
2021-09-03 12:51:29 PM  
FTFA:The department is governed by a state entity, the Board of Police Commissioners, not by the city. Lack of local control means there's no easy way to make the department comply with the rules of a city audit.

So the city funds the department, but it is only answerable to a state board. The weird thing is the board is comprised of Kansas City residents, including the mayor. So you would think they would have some interest in making the department answerable to city officials through them.
 
2021-09-03 12:59:35 PM  
Its almost like their concerned that an audit would uncover some sort of misdeeds. How odd.
 
2021-09-03 1:04:39 PM  
Stop giving them money until they respond.

They'll respond eventually.
 
2021-09-03 1:06:40 PM  
The department's refusal to cooperate highlights a longstanding frustration on the part of city leaders, who must fund the police department but then relinquish control over how the money is spent.

Then stop funding them until they cooperate. It's that simple.
 
2021-09-03 1:08:34 PM  

dywed88: Teddy Brosevelt: Fire them all... Like... How hard is this?

As per TFA the city has no actual authority over the police.


Who does?

Like, I don't understand how a city can have police but no jurisdiction over them. Who has it, then?
 
2021-09-03 1:08:57 PM  
Snaaaaaaake! It's a snaaaaake!
 
2021-09-03 1:09:51 PM  

austerity101: dywed88: Teddy Brosevelt: Fire them all... Like... How hard is this?

As per TFA the city has no actual authority over the police.

Who does?

Like, I don't understand how a city can have police but no jurisdiction over them. Who has it, then?


As per TFA, a state appointed board does.
 
2021-09-03 1:10:18 PM  

dywed88: austerity101: dywed88: Teddy Brosevelt: Fire them all... Like... How hard is this?

As per TFA the city has no actual authority over the police.

Who does?

Like, I don't understand how a city can have police but no jurisdiction over them. Who has it, then?

As per TFA, a state appointed board does.


No one RTFA.

So why aren't they doing anything?
 
2021-09-03 1:12:55 PM  
It's pretty horrifying that basically no one controls the police.
 
2021-09-03 1:24:23 PM  

Rent Party: RandolphCarter: Could this mileage be deliberately not tracked so these fine fellows are underreporting their taxes?

I would bet a case of the beer of your choice that is exactly what it is about.  Last I checked IRS gave you 51 cents a mile.   A cop taking the company car home every day is going to see it as money that cop math can't get away with.


I've switched from beer to wine.

Even so, no way I'm taking that bet.

Or, I could parlay that one with the 'wanna bet the fleet management software the PD uses could spit out mileage reports no problem' for an exacta.
 
2021-09-03 1:25:18 PM  

INTERTRON: FTA:
The department is governed by a state entity, the Board of Police Commissioners, not by the city. Lack of local control means there's no easy way to make the department comply with the rules of a city audit.

you know who else took control of local police out of the hands of locals and consolidated it under a state entity?


Baby Jesus?
 
2021-09-03 1:42:56 PM  

Majin_Buu: Welp, the solution is clear: Execute them all for failure to comply.


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2021-09-03 1:43:57 PM  

RandolphCarter: Rent Party: RandolphCarter: Could this mileage be deliberately not tracked so these fine fellows are underreporting their taxes?

I would bet a case of the beer of your choice that is exactly what it is about.  Last I checked IRS gave you 51 cents a mile.   A cop taking the company car home every day is going to see it as money that cop math can't get away with.

I've switched from beer to wine.

Even so, no way I'm taking that bet.

Or, I could parlay that one with the 'wanna bet the fleet management software the PD uses could spit out mileage reports no problem' for an exacta.


I'll go for the triple play and add "Cops haven't filed mileage reports in years" to the ticket.

I like wine.
 
2021-09-03 2:20:45 PM  

austerity101: Fart_Machine: Is it ok to defund them now?

Not if Farkers have anything to say about it. According to like half this site, Black people objecting to being murdered by the police is why the Democrats didn't win more elections. Somehow.


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