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2021-09-01 1:54:37 PM  
i.redd.itView Full Size
 
2021-09-01 2:55:16 PM  
The vaccinated are the control group, the rest of you are the research.
 
2021-09-01 6:32:13 PM  

aleister_greynight: The vaccinated are the control group, the rest of you are the research.


Other way around.
 
2021-09-01 7:18:14 PM  

Cafe Threads: aleister_greynight: The vaccinated are the control group, the rest of you are the research.

Other way around.


Placebos administered include Ivermectin, Lysol, and rectal UV.
 
2021-09-01 8:44:28 PM  
A Party that has room for the likes of Manchin and Sinema should have room for this anti-vaxxer asshole, too. Blue no matter who!
 
2021-09-01 8:45:13 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: Cafe Threads: aleister_greynight: The vaccinated are the control group, the rest of you are the research.

Other way around.

Placebos administered include Ivermectin, Lysol, and rectal UV.


Isn't that how Mr Manhattan was created?
 
2021-09-01 8:45:19 PM  
"We have (to) meet people where they're at some times ... #HOLLA," Jones said in a text message to a reporter, according to the Associated Press.

Well, he's got me there
 
2021-09-01 8:46:25 PM  
Stopped reading at Inkster
 
2021-09-01 8:50:53 PM  
c'mon, moderates, you're not gonna start demanding purity tests are you
 
2021-09-01 8:52:45 PM  
There are idiots on both sides of the aisle, but not the same number of idiots.
 
2021-09-01 8:54:35 PM  

Walker: [i.redd.it image 828x683]


You can't fix stupid but you can sedate it.
 
2021-09-01 8:55:59 PM  

austerity101: c'mon, moderates, you're not gonna start demanding purity tests are you


I'm gonna tell people he is absolutely wrong on this issue, and if I were to life in MI-11, i would probably be seeing who else at the next primary isn't a vaccine skeptic.

But guess what, If I agree with him on 90% of things except for this, and his opponent in the general election was someone like Josh Mandel (where i'm from), then yeah, i'd end up voting for this guy over Mandel.

It's almost like we have to vote for someone on the ballot. So we should be working to get good candidates on the primary ballot, the best of them (hopefully) goes on to the general, and we vote for the candidate in the general closest to our position that has some basic chance of winning.
 
2021-09-01 8:57:20 PM  
He's a farking moron and people will die because they're also morons that had their fears confirmed by this lawmaker and other fark independents.
 
2021-09-01 9:12:04 PM  
If spending campaign funds at the strip club is wrong, i don't want to be right.

/stripper votes matter
 
2021-09-01 9:17:29 PM  
Isn't this the drunk "Do you know who I am?" dumbass of a few months ago, who got a DUI in a car with vanity plates that say "ELECTED"?

I knew this stumblef*ck would turn up again.
 
2021-09-01 9:18:23 PM  

Cafe Threads: aleister_greynight: The vaccinated are the control group, the rest of you are the research.

Other way around.


I mean, I'm the research.

I signed up for a clinical trial of AstraZenica & they unblinded me after it became unethical to keep the placebo group unvaccinated if they wanted to get an FDA approved vaccine, & they confirmed I got the AZ vaccine.

Had to sign a whole bunch of informed consent forms.
 
2021-09-01 9:21:33 PM  
Dumb f*ck.
 
2021-09-01 9:25:12 PM  
"No, no, Dig up stupid!!"
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On May 26, 2018, Jones was pulled over for speeding, window tint, and having an obstructed license plate.[11] He was cited for driving with open intoxicants, although officers stated that Jones and all of the passengers were sober.[11][12] His arraignment for the misdemeanor charges was set for August 24, 2018.[11]
On April 6, 2021, Jones was arrested on charges stemming from a motor vehicle accident. Paramedics arrived first and observed a woman with her pants were down, and Jones with his pants partially down.[13] When police arrived, Jones was charged with resisting and obstructing a police officer, operating a motor vehicle with high blood alcohol content, operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated, possession of a weapon under the influence of alcohol and reckless driving.[14] During the arrest, Jones allegedly told officers that he would call governor Gretchen Whitmer "Big Gretch", and warned the officers that he runs the state budget. Jones's attorney denied that he resisted the arrest, and said that his statements regarding the governor and the budget were made in an attempt to stop the officers from using excessive force.

/ doesn't make him look better at all
 
2021-09-01 9:26:35 PM  

Elliot8654: austerity101: c'mon, moderates, you're not gonna start demanding purity tests are you

I'm gonna tell people he is absolutely wrong on this issue, and if I were to life in MI-11, i would probably be seeing who else at the next primary isn't a vaccine skeptic.

But guess what, If I agree with him on 90% of things except for this, and his opponent in the general election was someone like Josh Mandel (where i'm from), then yeah, i'd end up voting for this guy over Mandel.

It's almost like we have to vote for someone on the ballot. So we should be working to get good candidates on the primary ballot, the best of them (hopefully) goes on to the general, and we vote for the candidate in the general closest to our position that has some basic chance of winning.


I absolutely agree.

I'm just tired of there being a list of heinous things we'll tolerate in moderate Democrats because "blue no matter who" and "purity tests" and a list of things we won't tolerate in progressive Democrats because "do you want four more years of Trump?".

Should we tolerate pro-torture Democrats? Pro-tax-cut Democrats? How about pro-life Democrats, in light of the recent Texas law? I'm just really, really tired of moderate Democrats excusing behavior in moderate Democrats that they wouldn't ever tolerate in Republicans, while also holding progressives to impossible standards.
 
2021-09-01 9:36:16 PM  
This guy is the Jean Raphio of the freshman democrats...somebody primary him promptly
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2021-09-01 9:41:51 PM  

austerity101: Elliot8654: austerity101: c'mon, moderates, you're not gonna start demanding purity tests are you

I'm gonna tell people he is absolutely wrong on this issue, and if I were to life in MI-11, i would probably be seeing who else at the next primary isn't a vaccine skeptic.

But guess what, If I agree with him on 90% of things except for this, and his opponent in the general election was someone like Josh Mandel (where i'm from), then yeah, i'd end up voting for this guy over Mandel.

It's almost like we have to vote for someone on the ballot. So we should be working to get good candidates on the primary ballot, the best of them (hopefully) goes on to the general, and we vote for the candidate in the general closest to our position that has some basic chance of winning.

I absolutely agree.

I'm just tired of there being a list of heinous things we'll tolerate in moderate Democrats because "blue no matter who" and "purity tests" and a list of things we won't tolerate in progressive Democrats because "do you want four more years of Trump?".

Should we tolerate pro-torture Democrats? Pro-tax-cut Democrats? How about pro-life Democrats, in light of the recent Texas law? I'm just really, really tired of moderate Democrats excusing behavior in moderate Democrats that they wouldn't ever tolerate in Republicans, while also holding progressives to impossible standards.


I would hope that the primary process would eject a lot of the "pro-stupid-things" democrats. However, in certain areas of the country, you get democrats who brush up against moderate republican views, because that keeps them in office over the alternative of loony trump-humpers who would vote to publicly execute gay people on pay-per-view.

The primary should be used to get the best candidate for a party, and the general to pick the candidate closest to your view. The existence of rogue 3rd party candidates can skew this a bit, especially in very close elections. But for the most part, it does boil down to D vs R. And in a given district, i have yet to see an R in the general that's better than the D option, even if the D that came out of the primary is not the first I would choose.
 
2021-09-01 9:46:37 PM  
Kick him out of the party, NOW.
 
2021-09-01 9:47:22 PM  

Elliot8654: The primary should be used to get the best candidate for a party, and the general to pick the candidate closest to your view.


It should be, but:

- we don't use ranked-choice or any other form of automatic-runoff vote, which complicates the process. Even in a Democratic primary, one can find oneself having to not vote for their ideal candidate because they feel compelled to vote against a candidate they hate.

- our presidential primaries aren't even necessarily elections. The caucuses are hideously anti-democratic.

- our presidential elections don't all take ace on the same day, which makes no democratic sense. That means every state is voting with a different set of information. It's ridiculous.

- our primary voting is not usually done by mail, which makes the process harder for marginalized people.

- moderates pull the same evil, cheating tricks that Republicans do to neutralize progressive foes. Look at what they did in Nevada. Look at what they did to that poor guy in Massachusetts. How can we have fair primaries when our own party acts like this to its own members?
 
2021-09-01 9:50:56 PM  
Forget it, Jake. It's Inkster.
 
2021-09-01 9:59:02 PM  

austerity101: Elliot8654: The primary should be used to get the best candidate for a party, and the general to pick the candidate closest to your view.

It should be, but:

- we don't use ranked-choice or any other form of automatic-runoff vote, which complicates the process. Even in a Democratic primary, one can find oneself having to not vote for their ideal candidate because they feel compelled to vote against a candidate they hate.

- our presidential primaries aren't even necessarily elections. The caucuses are hideously anti-democratic.

- our presidential elections don't all take ace on the same day, which makes no democratic sense. That means every state is voting with a different set of information. It's ridiculous.

- our primary voting is not usually done by mail, which makes the process harder for marginalized people.

- moderates pull the same evil, cheating tricks that Republicans do to neutralize progressive foes. Look at what they did in Nevada. Look at what they did to that poor guy in Massachusetts. How can we have fair primaries when our own party acts like this to its own members?


I agree, it's a nightmare, which is why federal-level elections and systems are going to take ages to change. My focus has been mostly on local up to maybe state level stuff (federal mostly for HoR stuff). It's way easier to get a good candidate on city council then state house or federal rep than it is to try to get a presidential candidate. But the long term goal is to grow the more liberal/progressive grassroots candidates that make up the electorate to the point where semi-conservative democrats can be squeezed out.

The other big problem is our current election maps are gerrymandered to the point where a centrist dem that appeals to older people has a better chance in more purple areas than a more liberal candidate even when their policies would be better for the people in that area. My wife's family is from rural youngstown area. They would benefit GREATLY from progressive policy, but her dad votes Trump for reasons we can't even comprehend except for "it makes the libs mad".

There's a gigantic mess of electoral nonsense, but the most concrete first steps I can make are to get my city and state representatives to more align with local views, and get our House reps at the federal level to be more liberal.

End of the day, my influence on who the presidential candidate will be is effectively nil. But I can hopefully influence the base that influence the electors who influence the decision for presidential candidate. It's a very indirect, pain-in-the-butt process. But it's what I can do.
 
2021-09-01 9:59:12 PM  
Oh, look! It's Inkster's own Mini Kwame Kilpatric!

This guy is an embarrassment to Inkster and to Michigan. I sincerely hope someone primaries his dumb, grifting ass in the next election.
 
2021-09-01 11:09:48 PM  

aleister_greynight: The vaccinated are the control group, the rest of you are the research.


rain flies upwards from the ground to the clouds...

nah... I didn't think just saying it made it so.
 
2021-09-02 1:08:41 AM  

berylman: This guy is the Jean Raphio of the freshman democrats...somebody primary him promptly
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🎶 spending campaign moooney at the striiiiiip club 🎶

/ seriously is that his high school yearbook pic?
 
2021-09-02 11:25:17 AM  
I let a million people be guinea pigs before I got it. Nothing appears to have happened to them at any rate that is not expected of any other vaccine. If you think any drug on the shelf has been officially tested on even a tenth that many people before being approved, I have bad news for you.
 
2021-09-02 11:26:25 AM  
Did I say a tenth? Try a hundredth for the vast majority of them.
 
2021-09-02 12:52:07 PM  

Pharmdawg: I let a million people be guinea pigs before I got it. Nothing appears to have happened to them at any rate that is not expected of any other vaccine. If you think any drug on the shelf has been officially tested on even a tenth that many people before being approved, I have bad news for you.


Marijuana

/You make a good point though
 
2021-09-02 1:26:16 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: There are idiots on both sides of the aisle, but not the same number of idiots.


Don't worry.  Give it a little while longer, and the balance keeps getting heavier to one side.  Something about eliminating competition through natural selection...
 
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