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(Yahoo)   Apparently, Apple Bros are just as bad as Apple Fan Bois   (finance.yahoo.com) divider line
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893 clicks; posted to Business » on 31 Aug 2021 at 9:45 PM (14 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-08-31 10:12:44 PM  
I'm old enough, yet still young enough to still have a memory, to remember F* cked Company.

Early on, you'll get some good, valid, sometimes lifesaving info.  As time goes on, get ready for revenge postings simply to get payback for petty grievances and just assholes being assholes, anonymously.

Anyhow, good to get some real true tidbits out now before it's all Monday soup.
 
2021-08-31 11:16:30 PM  
Tim Apple wouldn't let this happen.  He has a 20 year vision board scribbled out by Jobs Himself to guide the way.  Unless this was on the vision board, in which case it was meant to be and for the best.
 
2021-08-31 11:18:03 PM  
Tech is toxic. I never understood why Apple as a company ever got a free pass. It was known that Steve Jobs was a shiatty CEO. Great marketer, but not a great direct manager.
 
2021-08-31 11:31:37 PM  
Don't buy apple products.

Problem solved.

I have gone almost 40 years without buying apple products.  Or from another perspective, an infinite amount of time without apple.
And almost 15 years without windows products.  Windows XP was the last windows product I bought.  I am not a uberman from the 27th dimension.  I am a chud on the internet.  So all you good people who are full humxns and better than me can learn to not use apple or windows.  If you can't you have been defeated by a drunk chud on the internet.

Take this as a challenge.  Be better than a chud on the internet.  Choose of your own free will to not use apple or microsoft.  Choose to be free.  Clearly good people who are greater than a chud can be free from the overmasters.
 
2021-09-01 12:02:09 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Don't buy apple products.

Problem solved.

I have gone almost 40 years without buying apple products.  Or from another perspective, an infinite amount of time without apple.
And almost 15 years without windows products.  Windows XP was the last windows product I bought.  I am not a uberman from the 27th dimension.  I am a chud on the internet.  So all you good people who are full humxns and better than me can learn to not use apple or windows.  If you can't you have been defeated by a drunk chud on the internet.

Take this as a challenge.  Be better than a chud on the internet.  Choose of your own free will to not use apple or microsoft.  Choose to be free.  Clearly good people who are greater than a chud can be free from the overmasters.


Open source is just as full of toxic personalities.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/linus-torv​a​lds-returns-to-linux-after-time-off-fo​r-being-a-jerk

https://www.wired.com/story/richard-s​t​allman-and-the-fall-of-the-clueless-ne​rd/

Hell, if anything it can even worse because such cults of personality develop within the community.

The tech world in general has some serious issues when it comes to becoming a cesspool of toxic behaviors.
 
2021-09-01 12:13:25 AM  
Boy, does this thread make me feel old. Apple was always a toxic company, their marketing and PR teams just got lucky that people forgot all about that since Steve has been dead for years.
 
2021-09-01 12:26:43 AM  
"Judge not a man by his friends but by the quality of his enemies."

Many would support your first two sentences but are alienated by the following paragraphs.  If your enemies are people calling you mean derogatory names, then you are not doing enough good to earn quality ones.  If you are embracing those names, then you are embracing they are correct about you.  Reject the low road of insults and embrace the high road of discussion.  Have good people moved by your ideas.  Earn enemies who are afraid you are right instead of afraid of you.

The conflict between the federalist and anti-federalist when we were forming this country is often called the Great Debate.  We came together as a nation to discuss opposing views and formed a compromise. Those like Jefferson(anti-federalist) and Monroe (federalist) who wanted to talk got monuments and doctrine named after them.  Over 200 years later their opposing opinions are still backbones of our democracy.  Those like Hamiltion and Burr who had to make it personal got a musical.
 
2021-09-01 1:41:45 AM  
Submitter is more toxic than anybody he's whining about. Seriously, get a life.
 
2021-09-01 1:49:03 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Don't buy apple products.

Problem solved.

I have gone almost 40 years without buying apple products.  Or from another perspective, an infinite amount of time without apple.
And almost 15 years without windows products.  Windows XP was the last windows product I bought.  I am not a uberman from the 27th dimension.  I am a chud on the internet.  So all you good people who are full humxns and better than me can learn to not use apple or windows.  If you can't you have been defeated by a drunk chud on the internet.

Take this as a challenge.  Be better than a chud on the internet.  Choose of your own free will to not use apple or microsoft.  Choose to be free.  Clearly good people who are greater than a chud can be free from the overmasters.


Cool.
 
2021-09-01 2:26:54 AM  
Remember, buying a popular Apple phone makes you a sheep, but buying a phone with the more popular Android OS does not make you a sheep.

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: AmbassadorBooze: Don't buy apple products.

Problem solved.

I have gone almost 40 years without buying apple products.  Or from another perspective, an infinite amount of time without apple.
And almost 15 years without windows products.  Windows XP was the last windows product I bought.  I am not a uberman from the 27th dimension.  I am a chud on the internet.  So all you good people who are full humxns and better than me can learn to not use apple or windows.  If you can't you have been defeated by a drunk chud on the internet.

Take this as a challenge.  Be better than a chud on the internet.  Choose of your own free will to not use apple or microsoft.  Choose to be free.  Clearly good people who are greater than a chud can be free from the overmasters.

Cool.


Story.
 
2021-09-01 2:55:18 AM  

Mad_Radhu: AmbassadorBooze: Don't buy apple products.

Problem solved.

I have gone almost 40 years without buying apple products.  Or from another perspective, an infinite amount of time without apple.
And almost 15 years without windows products.  Windows XP was the last windows product I bought.  I am not a uberman from the 27th dimension.  I am a chud on the internet.  So all you good people who are full humxns and better than me can learn to not use apple or windows.  If you can't you have been defeated by a drunk chud on the internet.

Take this as a challenge.  Be better than a chud on the internet.  Choose of your own free will to not use apple or microsoft.  Choose to be free.  Clearly good people who are greater than a chud can be free from the overmasters.

Open source is just as full of toxic personalities.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/linus-torva​lds-returns-to-linux-after-time-off-fo​r-being-a-jerk

https://www.wired.com/story/richard-st​allman-and-the-fall-of-the-clueless-ne​rd/

Hell, if anything it can even worse because such cults of personality develop within the community.

The tech world in general has some serious issues when it comes to becoming a cesspool of toxic behaviors.


Then fill open source with Utopians and full vegan electric personalities. At least open source is free.  I don't pay money to the toxics.  Windows and apples has just as much toxicity, except they make you pay money.

Start a full vegan anti toxic open source.  I will use it.  If it is good enough.
 
2021-09-01 3:15:50 AM  
 
2021-09-01 3:19:36 AM  

smeag0l: Elon Musk choosing to lie and promote Covid conspiracy to become more wealthy is next level evil.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-m​usk-promoted-coronavirus-misinformatio​n-then-tested-positive-2020-11
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/​2021/03/13/elon-musks-false-covid-pred​ictions-a-timeline/?sh=e7f9efb5b6d2
https://www.theguardian.com/technology​/2020/mar/19/elon-musk-coronavirus-tes​la-factory-california
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/busines​s/elon-musk-nyt-podcast-covid-vaccine/​index.html
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a315​62574/elon-musk-covid-19-coronavirus/


I fully support Biden wrapping a chain around his head and Gitmoing his ass for life.

Nationalize the tech and give it to the people.
 
2021-09-01 3:45:52 AM  
I prefer Apple Scruffs.
 
2021-09-01 8:16:54 AM  

Mad_Radhu: AmbassadorBooze: Don't buy apple products.

Problem solved.

I have gone almost 40 years without buying apple products.  Or from another perspective, an infinite amount of time without apple.
And almost 15 years without windows products.  Windows XP was the last windows product I bought.  I am not a uberman from the 27th dimension.  I am a chud on the internet.  So all you good people who are full humxns and better than me can learn to not use apple or windows.  If you can't you have been defeated by a drunk chud on the internet.

Take this as a challenge.  Be better than a chud on the internet.  Choose of your own free will to not use apple or microsoft.  Choose to be free.  Clearly good people who are greater than a chud can be free from the overmasters.

Open source is just as full of toxic personalities.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/linus-torva​lds-returns-to-linux-after-time-off-fo​r-being-a-jerk

https://www.wired.com/story/richard-st​allman-and-the-fall-of-the-clueless-ne​rd/

Hell, if anything it can even worse because such cults of personality develop within the community.

The tech world in general has some serious issues when it comes to becoming a cesspool of toxic behaviors.


When you take creative people and put them under a yolk of marketing and sales, don't be surprised when they snap and push back.

I've never worked with a bad intentioned techie, but told off many greedy hang-me-ons from the 'soft' portion of the business.

Tech, like art, should not be subjugated to deadlines and budgets.

If we want nice things, we need to let the people capable of envisioning them, designing and researching do their thing unimpeded. Otherwise they just might use their voluminous skills to the wrong end. And then there is crying they were mean to us all over the place.

It never ceases to amaze me that humans don't recognize merit correctly; either you are above API making the system or a techno-serf to be given order via the API.
 
2021-09-01 9:34:43 AM  
The world is full of toxic people, so naturally there are many toxic workplaces.
 
2021-09-01 10:08:34 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Remember, buying a popular Apple phone makes you a sheep, but buying a phone with the more popular Android OS does not make you a sheep.Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: AmbassadorBooze: Don't buy apple products.

Problem solved.

I have gone almost 40 years without buying apple products.  Or from another perspective, an infinite amount of time without apple.
And almost 15 years without windows products.  Windows XP was the last windows product I bought.  I am not a uberman from the 27th dimension.  I am a chud on the internet.  So all you good people who are full humxns and better than me can learn to not use apple or windows.  If you can't you have been defeated by a drunk chud on the internet.

Take this as a challenge.  Be better than a chud on the internet.  Choose of your own free will to not use apple or microsoft.  Choose to be free.  Clearly good people who are greater than a chud can be free from the overmasters.

Cool.

Story.


well I completely farked that one up, lol
 
2021-09-01 12:08:30 PM  

outtatowner: Tech, like art, should not be subjugated to deadlines and budgets.


Uh, businesses need to make money or there is no next product to research.  I've been an engineer in the semiconductor industry for over 20 years now and at some point in every product lifecycle you just need to shoot the engineers and go to production.  The places I've worked that were happy to dick around with a product forever are all bankrupt or in dire straights while my current employer makes buckets of money by sticking to a strict product cadence.

A nice side-effect of having buckets of money from actual production is that then you can take really weird chances on the side (so long as they don't impede the money machine!) that, if they pay off, bring in ever more vast fortunes with which future research can be done.
 
2021-09-01 2:12:55 PM  

OptionC: outtatowner: Tech, like art, should not be subjugated to deadlines and budgets.

Uh, businesses need to make money or there is no next product to research.  I've been an engineer in the semiconductor industry for over 20 years now and at some point in every product lifecycle you just need to shoot the engineers and go to production.  The places I've worked that were happy to dick around with a product forever are all bankrupt or in dire straights while my current employer makes buckets of money by sticking to a strict product cadence.

A nice side-effect of having buckets of money from actual production is that then you can take really weird chances on the side (so long as they don't impede the money machine!) that, if they pay off, bring in ever more vast fortunes with which future research can be done.


Business is built on monetizing technology, or in my analogy - art.

Unless the technology is complete, your business model is worth nothing more than a fart in the wind. Most 'businesses' that don't get this don't stay alive long. Especially in pure software space.
 
2021-09-01 5:08:19 PM  

outtatowner: Unless the technology is complete


No product is ever complete.  If you're going to wait for it to be "complete" before going to production good luck with that.

Set deadlines and adhere to them.
 
2021-09-01 8:43:24 PM  
It's almost as if you nerds paid as much attention to hygiene and social skills as you did ROM and whatever else makes you awkward, you wouldn't have to sexually prey on other people.

Crazy, I know.
 
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