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2021-08-31 8:27:40 AM  
Has there been any rumors of all the Hulks (Bana, Norton, Ruffalo) and/or the different casts of the Fantastic Four appearing together in the upcoming "multiverse" story arc?
 
2021-08-31 8:38:35 AM  
One of those articles that breathlessly tells you what the quote says, and then presents the quote with all the air preemptively sucked out. Read the quotes, ignore the text.
 
2021-08-31 8:54:00 AM  

docilej: Has there been any rumors of all the Hulks (Bana, Norton, Ruffalo) and/or the different casts of the Fantastic Four appearing together in the upcoming "multiverse" story arc?


I'm not sure Edward Norton is even allowed at Disneyland anymore. . .
 
2021-08-31 8:55:06 AM  
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2021-08-31 9:00:42 AM  

docilej: Has there been any rumors of all the Hulks (Bana, Norton, Ruffalo) and/or the different casts of the Fantastic Four appearing together in the upcoming "multiverse" story arc?


I've seen rumors of Norton, but who knows.  As it is, I think No Way Home is going to be packed with cameos and such.  Hopefully it's not too oversaturated.
 
2021-08-31 9:48:00 AM  
Something that surprised everyone was that, initially, The Incredible Hulk was regarded as the surefire success with Iron Man being seen as more of a risk.

That sounds incredibly odd to me. Yes, they were initially worried that audiences wouldn't flock to see a movie about a second stringer like Iron Man, but why would they think a second Hulk movie would be a guaranteed hit? The first movie wasn't exactly a runaway success or a crowd pleaser, and I don't remember there being huge excitement for a make-good sequel. Just general relief that Ang Lee wasn't returning as director.
 
2021-08-31 9:51:43 AM  

EdgeRunner: Something that surprised everyone was that, initially, The Incredible Hulk was regarded as the surefire success with Iron Man being seen as more of a risk.

That sounds incredibly odd to me. Yes, they were initially worried that audiences wouldn't flock to see a movie about a second stringer like Iron Man, but why would they think a second Hulk movie would be a guaranteed hit? The first movie wasn't exactly a runaway success or a crowd pleaser, and I don't remember there being huge excitement for a make-good sequel. Just general relief that Ang Lee wasn't returning as director.


Hulk was well established in pop culture, more-so from the TV series than the Ang Lee movie, though.  On paper, a decent Hulk movie would do much better than a decent Iron Man movie just because general audiences knew who Hulk was, but were previously unexposed to Iron Man at all.
 
2021-08-31 9:54:50 AM  

Russell_Secord: One of those articles that breathlessly tells you what the quote says, and then presents the quote with all the air preemptively sucked out. Read the quotes, ignore the text.


And most of the article is just chunky quotes, too. The author barely did any actual writing of their own. It always amazes me that this stuff passes muster with whoever is in charge of approving their work.

As for the movie itself, there is a fan edit floating around called the Tomahawk Cut, IIRC, and it inserts about 25 to 30 minutes of deleted footage. Normally that stuff is cut for a reason and you usually don't want your superhero movies to drag, but in this case it was an improvement. I highly recommend seeking it out. I'm not the biggest fan of The Incredible Hulk, it ranks low on my lost of MCU movies, but that fan edit goes a long way towards making it better.
 
2021-08-31 9:58:09 AM  
Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.
 
2021-08-31 10:33:37 AM  
It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.
 
2021-08-31 10:46:19 AM  

docilej: Has there been any rumors of all the Hulks (Bana, Norton, Ruffalo) and/or the different casts of the Fantastic Four appearing together in the upcoming "multiverse" story arc?


Don't forget Lou Ferrigno.
 
2021-08-31 11:13:47 AM  

NeoCortex42: EdgeRunner: Something that surprised everyone was that, initially, The Incredible Hulk was regarded as the surefire success with Iron Man being seen as more of a risk.

That sounds incredibly odd to me. Yes, they were initially worried that audiences wouldn't flock to see a movie about a second stringer like Iron Man, but why would they think a second Hulk movie would be a guaranteed hit? The first movie wasn't exactly a runaway success or a crowd pleaser, and I don't remember there being huge excitement for a make-good sequel. Just general relief that Ang Lee wasn't returning as director.

Hulk was well established in pop culture, more-so from the TV series than the Ang Lee movie, though.  On paper, a decent Hulk movie would do much better than a decent Iron Man movie just because general audiences knew who Hulk was, but were previously unexposed to Iron Man at all.


On a paper that didn't include all the jokes about the Ang Lee film, sure. Everyone I knew put the Incredible Hulk movie in the "wait for rental" category, if they were interested at all. If it turned out to be anywhere near as long and overwrought as the first movie, we didn't want to be stuck in a theater with no option to pause or do other things while it was on.

I'm sure Iron Man sounded like a chancy proposition when it was first greenlit, but the public got interested as soon as word of the project started spreading around. Knowing it was directed by Favreau, best known then for directing Elf and Zathura, made it sound like it would at least be imaginative and fun, and rolling the dice on reviving RDJ's career sounded like a can't-miss wildcard choice. The Incredible Hulk was a fixer-upper on a damaged brand. I was also surprised to learn The Incredible Hulk had a bigger budget than Ang Lee's movie, because everything about it just looked and felt cheaper.

Obviously Marvel did their own studies, but at least in my circle of friends, there was never any thought that the Hulk sequel would be a runaway hit. We figured they were just so keen on salvaging the character, they were willing to risk losing money on a do-over.
 
2021-08-31 11:19:23 AM  

NeoCortex42: docilej: Has there been any rumors of all the Hulks (Bana, Norton, Ruffalo) and/or the different casts of the Fantastic Four appearing together in the upcoming "multiverse" story arc?

I've seen rumors of Norton, but who knows.  As it is, I think No Way Home is going to be packed with cameos and such.  Hopefully it's not too oversaturated.


Normally I would agree with your oversaturated statement, but not this time.  I hope they saturate the hell out of it.  I want Thor from the Hulk tv show and Spider-Man from the electric company.  Throw in Japanese Spider-Man while you're at it.

Also, I must be the only one who liked the Incredible Hulk. I thought it was way better than the first live action Hulk movie.
 
2021-08-31 11:27:13 AM  

Joe Stapler: Also, I must be the only one who liked the Incredible Hulk. I thought it was way better than the first live action Hulk movie.


Story-wise it was much better and I thought it was okay, but it also felt far less cinematic than Ang Lee's grandiose mess. I think waiting for rental was the right move because it felt like it was made for TV, especially with all the constant references to the old Bill Bixby series.
 
2021-08-31 11:43:27 AM  

McGrits: It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.


One of my favorite Hulk scenes from MCU was his freak out in AoU. Him going absolutely apeshiat and trashing everything while Stark is trying to contain him was great.
Hulk vs HulkBuster - Fight Scene - Avengers Age of Ultron (2015) Movie CLIP HD
Youtube BSG5iHK9Scw
 
2021-08-31 11:49:04 AM  

Slypork: McGrits: It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.

One of my favorite Hulk scenes from MCU was his freak out in AoU. Him going absolutely apeshiat and trashing everything while Stark is trying to contain him was great.
[YouTube video: Hulk vs HulkBuster - Fight Scene - Avengers Age of Ultron (2015) Movie CLIP HD]


And yet, hulk ends up being a punching bag in the end.

Same with the Thor Ragnorok fight.

I thought to defeat hulk you had to outsmart him, not out punch him.
 
2021-08-31 11:56:26 AM  

EdgeRunner: Joe Stapler: Also, I must be the only one who liked the Incredible Hulk. I thought it was way better than the first live action Hulk movie.

Story-wise it was much better and I thought it was okay, but it also felt far less cinematic than Ang Lee's grandiose mess. I think waiting for rental was the right move because it felt like it was made for TV, especially with all the constant references to the old Bill Bixby series.


Incredible Hulk was okay.  It's probably the most generic superhero movie in the MCU, and very forgettable for that reason, but I don't regret watching it.

I would definitely agree that it's better than Ang Lee's Hulk.  Lee's movie took bigger risks than Incredible Hulk, but pretty much none of them paid off.  It just ends up being a confusing, overwrought, unexciting mess of a film.
 
2021-08-31 12:07:13 PM  

HeartBurnKid: I would definitely agree that it's better than Ang Lee's Hulk. Lee's movie took bigger risks than Incredible Hulk, but pretty much none of them paid off. It just ends up being a confusing, overwrought, unexciting mess of a film.


I appreciated Ang Lee's ambition, but it goes off the rails almost immediately. His film is still the more memorable one for me, though, because it's so insane. How in the world did he sell the studio on pouring money into a CGI hulked out French poodle? Or convince them that the final climactic battle should be a slideshow projected onto clouds? Did he get them tanked on whatever high octane floor polish that Nick Nolte must have been drinking non-stop before and after all of his scenes?

It's a terrible film, but at times it rises up into the pantheon of the divinely terrible, and achieves an unmatchable wretched glory in its shining awfulness.
 
2021-08-31 12:31:32 PM  

EdgeRunner: Joe Stapler: Also, I must be the only one who liked the Incredible Hulk. I thought it was way better than the first live action Hulk movie.

Story-wise it was much better and I thought it was okay, but it also felt far less cinematic than Ang Lee's grandiose mess. I think waiting for rental was the right move because it felt like it was made for TV, especially with all the constant references to the old Bill Bixby series.


Boy did Ang Lee try his level best. You can see the titanic pressure of trying to set up a serious five film franchise of the Tragedy of the Incredible Hulk.

Meanwhile, they teased us with what we wanted:
The Hulk (2003) - Teaser Trailer
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2021-08-31 12:49:27 PM  

Slypork: McGrits: It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.

One of my favorite Hulk scenes from MCU was his freak out in AoU. Him going absolutely apeshiat and trashing everything while Stark is trying to contain him was great.
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I love that "Damage report?" and incomprehensible gibberish bit. Kinda wish Marvel will try for a replica of the Arrowverse - weekly updates to the Banner/Stark bromance like the Atom/Steel bromance in Legends of Tomorrow would be excelsior.
 
2021-08-31 12:51:04 PM  

McGrits: I thought to defeat hulk you had to outsmart him, not out punch him.


I agree. That whole fight scene was Whedon engaging in fan service -- which is fine! We often WANT fan service from these movies! That's why they exist.

But just making the resolution be punch, punch, punch was a bit lazy and undermines the idea that "Hulk is strongest one there is!"

Him getting thrown around by Thanos was different, IMO, in no small part because it established that Thanos was a MASSIVE threat.

But tech or not, Stark shouldn't take him down that easy. The team should always be uneasy about a Hulk gone wild.
 
2021-08-31 12:59:03 PM  
I know someone will do it at some point, and I will immediately download it when they do: replacing Edward Norton's face with a deepfake of Ruffalo.

Norton's version was fine, I have no issue with it, but it feels disconnected from the rest of the MCU because it was such a major casting change.

Deepfaking it would probably suck, but I'd still watch it.

(What about Rhodes? My headcanon is that they are two different guys with similar names. The guy from Iron Man is a different dude in universe from the guy in Iron Man 2 and beyond. Silly, perhaps, but headcanon usually is.)
 
2021-08-31 1:04:49 PM  

optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.


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Oak
2021-08-31 1:19:46 PM  
Hulk not take direction gracefully.
 
2021-08-31 1:29:34 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.

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I was wondering if anyone had a copy of that, from Mad Magazine right?

Of course, you've got to wonder if whoever drew that was from the future, considering the changes in Jenner's life since then.
 
2021-08-31 1:46:51 PM  
my two cents.  The Hulk is a boring one dimensional character, there's no depth and without playing around with his level of intelligence (Fixit or rapey Planet Hulk) you don't get a story.

If they can stay away from an angsty guilt ridden Banner the story has potential.

MCU was right to start with IM.  He's a billionaire, playboy, philanthropist that some how the audience was able to relate to.
Hulk smash and that's it.  The post Endgame Hulk won't be able to stand up against Abomination or Juggernaut or the other usuals because rage was his super power not his multiple highlevel degrees.
 
2021-08-31 1:53:47 PM  

skater: Tyrone Slothrop: optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.

[Fark user image 416x295]

I was wondering if anyone had a copy of that, from Mad Magazine right?

Of course, you've got to wonder if whoever drew that was from the future, considering the changes in Jenner's life since then.

Oh my god I had that issue as a kid. When Jenner started transitioning I remembered that comic and thought they must have been clairvoyant.
 
2021-08-31 2:03:48 PM  

McGrits: Slypork: McGrits: It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.

One of my favorite Hulk scenes from MCU was his freak out in AoU. Him going absolutely apeshiat and trashing everything while Stark is trying to contain him was great.
[YouTube video: Hulk vs HulkBuster - Fight Scene - Avengers Age of Ultron (2015) Movie CLIP HD]

And yet, hulk ends up being a punching bag in the end.

Same with the Thor Ragnorok fight.

I thought to defeat hulk you had to outsmart him, not out punch him.


MCU treated Hulk as a jobber after the first Avengers movie. See also: the TV Tropes entry "The Worf Effect"
 
2021-08-31 2:59:03 PM  
I liked the Bana Hulk, aside from Nick Nolte's absorbing man. The Hulk jump was never cooler, even with the dated CGI

Hulk Jumping Scene - Hulk (2003) Movie Clip HD
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2021-08-31 3:17:32 PM  

Mega Steve: I liked the Bana Hulk, aside from Nick Nolte's absorbing man. The Hulk jump was never cooler, even with the dated CGI

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An angry Hulk dropping down on you from the sky like that would be pants-shiatting terror, I tell you hwhat. Horror movies from the super-villains perspective as Batman or Hulk hunt them down are a thing that needs to happen.
 
2021-08-31 3:32:41 PM  

optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.


I still don't get that.  I mean, "Leslie" would have make more sense as a "gay" name.  :Bruce" just seems...random.

//To be clear, that was incredibly homophobic on Johnny's part and I'm glad we've grown past the point that was tolerated in mainstream media.
 
2021-08-31 3:37:47 PM  

Mega Steve: I liked the Bana Hulk, aside from Nick Nolte's absorbing man. The Hulk jump was never cooler, even with the dated CGI

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That's a really good clip!

I've never seen the Ang Lee Hulk. Word of mouth put me off it. The clip, at least, is good stuff.

It reminds me of something the MCU doesn't do enough of: Just slow down and let you take in the awe and wonder of seeing these characters do something amazing. Often, a long, slow shot like the two in that clip give you far more awe than a dozen quick cuts ever will.
 
2021-08-31 3:38:19 PM  

Chakan: McGrits: Slypork: McGrits: It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.

One of my favorite Hulk scenes from MCU was his freak out in AoU. Him going absolutely apeshiat and trashing everything while Stark is trying to contain him was great.
[YouTube video: Hulk vs HulkBuster - Fight Scene - Avengers Age of Ultron (2015) Movie CLIP HD]

And yet, hulk ends up being a punching bag in the end.

Same with the Thor Ragnorok fight.

I thought to defeat hulk you had to outsmart him, not out punch him.

MCU treated Hulk as a jobber after the first Avengers movie. See also: the TV Tropes entry "The Worf Effect"


Must. Not. Open. Tvtropes.

/don't be evil
 
2021-08-31 4:01:01 PM  

Mega Steve: I liked the Bana Hulk


I'm still disappointed that Bana never played Batman. I didn't care if he was good or bad in the role, I just wanted to spend a summer annoying people by singing "Bana Bana Bana Bana Bana Bana Bana Bana Batman!" over and over.
 
2021-08-31 4:36:32 PM  

optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.


I've always wondered about the name change.  And I never knew that about Carson.  I was a bit too young to get a lot of his jokes.
 
2021-08-31 4:39:30 PM  

Slypork: McGrits: It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.

One of my favorite Hulk scenes from MCU was his freak out in AoU. Him going absolutely apeshiat and trashing everything while Stark is trying to contain him was great.
[YouTube video: Hulk vs HulkBuster - Fight Scene - Avengers Age of Ultron (2015) Movie CLIP HD]


I've always said if we would have gotten this Hulk at the beginning of Infinity War the movie would have lasted 15 minutes.
 
2021-08-31 4:59:43 PM  

Madstand: optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.

I've always wondered about the name change.  And I never knew that about Carson.  I was a bit too young to get a lot of his jokes.


Carson also had a bunch of out guests. I doubt he was particularly homophobic, just telling tasteless jokes aimed at people born before WWl,
 
2021-08-31 5:30:23 PM  

Joe Stapler: NeoCortex42: docilej: Has there been any rumors of all the Hulks (Bana, Norton, Ruffalo) and/or the different casts of the Fantastic Four appearing together in the upcoming "multiverse" story arc?

I've seen rumors of Norton, but who knows.  As it is, I think No Way Home is going to be packed with cameos and such.  Hopefully it's not too oversaturated.

Normally I would agree with your oversaturated statement, but not this time.  I hope they saturate the hell out of it.  I want Thor from the Hulk tv show and Spider-Man from the electric company.  Throw in Japanese Spider-Man while you're at it.

Also, I must be the only one who liked the Incredible Hulk. I thought it was way better than the first live action Hulk movie.


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If they throw even a taste of this in No Way Home you will hear me squee even if you're on the Moon. . .
 
2021-08-31 5:51:22 PM  

kermit the forg: optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.

I still don't get that.  I mean, "Leslie" would have make more sense as a "gay" name.  :Bruce" just seems...random.

//To be clear, that was incredibly homophobic on Johnny's part and I'm glad we've grown past the point that was tolerated in mainstream media.


To call this "incredibly homophobic" is pure hyperbole. "Bruce" was considered a somewhat effeminate name; Carson was simply making a tasteless (by today's standards) joke.

And as far as growing past it, well...

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2021-08-31 6:00:02 PM  
"Carson wasn't being homophobic -- Bruce DOES sound gay!"
-- Fark wisdom
 
2021-08-31 6:37:56 PM  
 
2021-08-31 6:40:10 PM  

WhippingBoi: kermit the forg: optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.

I still don't get that.  I mean, "Leslie" would have make more sense as a "gay" name.  :Bruce" just seems...random.

//To be clear, that was incredibly homophobic on Johnny's part and I'm glad we've grown past the point that was tolerated in mainstream media.

To call this "incredibly homophobic" is pure hyperbole. "Bruce" was considered a somewhat effeminate name; Carson was simply making a tasteless (by today's standards) joke.

And as far as growing past it, well...

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Well, generally making tasteless jokes about gay people because they're gay and you never say anything positive about them seems homophobic.

And, seriously, why was Bruce decided to be "gay"?  I can't think of somebody famous who was gay in the 70s named Bruce that could be associated with that.  Older Farkers got any explanation?
 
2021-08-31 7:01:26 PM  

kermit the forg: WhippingBoi: kermit the forg: optikeye: Not so fun fact. Johnny Carson's homophobia forced a name change on TV's incredible hulk.

Carson would make gay jokes with a punchline of making a limp wristed movement and using the name "Bruce"
Bruce as a name became tied to the jokes as a gay name. So when the incredible hulk came to TV they went with "David" Banner.

I still don't get that.  I mean, "Leslie" would have make more sense as a "gay" name.  :Bruce" just seems...random.

//To be clear, that was incredibly homophobic on Johnny's part and I'm glad we've grown past the point that was tolerated in mainstream media.

To call this "incredibly homophobic" is pure hyperbole. "Bruce" was considered a somewhat effeminate name; Carson was simply making a tasteless (by today's standards) joke.

And as far as growing past it, well...

[oyster.ignimgs.com image 228x282]

Well, generally making tasteless jokes about gay people because they're gay and you never say anything positive about them seems homophobic.

And, seriously, why was Bruce decided to be "gay"?  I can't think of somebody famous who was gay in the 70s named Bruce that could be associated with that.  Older Farkers got any explanation?


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2021-08-31 7:02:38 PM  

EdgeRunner: It's a terrible film, but at times it rises up into the pantheon of the divinely terrible, and achieves an unmatchable wretched glory in its shining awfulness.


I like it.
 
2021-08-31 7:42:14 PM  
Boojum2k:

Norton is a smart guy and good actor.

But unfortunately, he thinks he knows more about stuff than he does and is a dick about it. Really he's the Morrissey of acting.
 
2021-08-31 7:52:29 PM  

McGrits: Slypork: McGrits: It is unfortunate the the hulk was just a punching bag and not the mountain of pure rage he could have been. It would have been nice seeing him truly let go. Maybe not punch a planet but at least not be a whipping boy.

One of my favorite Hulk scenes from MCU was his freak out in AoU. Him going absolutely apeshiat and trashing everything while Stark is trying to contain him was great.
[YouTube video: Hulk vs HulkBuster - Fight Scene - Avengers Age of Ultron (2015) Movie CLIP HD]

And yet, hulk ends up being a punching bag in the end.

Same with the Thor Ragnorok fight.

I thought to defeat hulk you had to outsmart him, not out punch him.


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2021-08-31 9:25:39 PM  

Boojum2k: docilej: Has there been any rumors of all the Hulks (Bana, Norton, Ruffalo) and/or the different casts of the Fantastic Four appearing together in the upcoming "multiverse" story arc?

I'm not sure Edward Norton is even allowed at Disneyland anymore. . .


Evidently the writers of last week's What If.... episode had joked about trying to use Norton for Bruce Banner in that one.
 
2021-08-31 10:01:09 PM  

skyotter: "Carson wasn't being homophobic -- Bruce DOES sound gay!"
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2021-08-31 10:29:52 PM  

Fano: skyotter: "Carson wasn't being homophobic -- Bruce DOES sound gay!"
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That Adirondacks/Borscht Belt shiat was still huge into the 70s.
 
2021-08-31 10:30:44 PM  

EdgeRunner: Obviously Marvel did their own studies, but at least in my circle of friends, there was never any thought that the Hulk sequel would be a runaway hit.


Not a sequel. How many times does this have to be explained?

The Ang Lee Hulk is a standalone Universal film in its own universe. The Incredible Hulk is a reboot in the MCU.

In Ang Lee's version, Banner's father David was working to improve human DNA and General Ross blocked him from human experimentations so Banner tried it on himself (altering his own DNA). David Banner's wife becomes pregnant and Bruce is born with mutant DNA. David rigs the base's gamma reactor to explode and yada yada yada Bruce gets a heavy dose of gamma rays. That's what eventually turns him into the Hulk.

In the MCU version, General Ross lies to Bruce Banner to get him to unknowingly work on a perfecting a version of the Super Soldier serum. Banner believes it's a serum to make people resistant to gamma radiation. Confident in his findings, he self-injects the modified Super Soldier serum and uses gamma rays (instead of Vita rays, which were what Erskine used to create Captain America) as a catalyst, becoming the Hulk in the process. Ross hunts him  down (initially) because he wants to discover the secret of making "weapons" like the Hulk.

Hulk is not a prequel to Incredible Hulk. They're not related in any way. They're in completely different universes.
 
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