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2021-08-29 11:14:55 AM  
Sure. Why not? Doesn't cost anything directly and it might stick.
 
2021-08-29 11:16:07 AM  
Run the biggest write-in campaign anyone has ever seen in VA.

And plenty of "The GQP tried to CANCEL ME, but I'm here!!!' ads.
 
2021-08-29 11:16:47 AM  
Did he not "hereby declare"?
 
2021-08-29 11:18:10 AM  
Try it assholes! Don't care. I'll write-in him.
 
2021-08-29 11:18:33 AM  
The GOP proves once again that they respect the Rule of Law - unlike the Socialist Democrat Party.
 
2021-08-29 11:18:56 AM  
The form lacked the official gold fringe
 
2021-08-29 11:19:15 AM  
I mean...why not? You can't lose if you eliminate the competition from the ballot. Also, why are the Repubs running rich never-been-a-politician against popular, known politicians? It's like they want to lose.
 
2021-08-29 11:19:42 AM  
Another blatant assault on the democratic process by the GOP in America.
 
2021-08-29 11:19:52 AM  
They've moved on from voter suppression to  the next logical tactic, candidate / political party suppression.  All the cool fascists do it.
 
2021-08-29 11:20:28 AM  
Glenn Youngkin is a Trumpkin in a moderate money-man's suit. In Virginia, which is the most reasonable state in the South, is also a place no Republican has won statewide in more than a decade. McAuliffe may be a hustler, but he was also an effective governor, according to both Republicans and Democrats. Youngkin has literally no chance of winning in Virginia in an actual vote, so this is what he's got.
 
2021-08-29 11:21:35 AM  
In other words, they got nothin'.
 
2021-08-29 11:21:38 AM  

Dels: Did he not "hereby declare"?


Didn't sign the forms.

On one hand it's kind of a "You have a small number of things you have to do to run for office, and filling out the paperwork correctly is top of the list".

His campaign submitting the forms - just forgot to make sure he signed it.  Not like his campaign just didn't bother registering him.
 
2021-08-29 11:21:44 AM  

Dels: Did he not "hereby declare"?


TLDR: They say he has to sign the declaration of candidacy. According to the article, the law actually says 2 witnesses can attest to the declaration and nobody has to sign shiz.

It seems pretty open and shut to me.
 
2021-08-29 11:23:01 AM  
They can't win in a fair election so they're trying anything they can
 
2021-08-29 11:23:07 AM  
These guys couldn't win fair if the two candidates in a race were both Republican
 
2021-08-29 11:23:43 AM  

MadHatter500: Dels: Did he not "hereby declare"?

Didn't sign the forms.

On one hand it's kind of a "You have a small number of things you have to do to run for office, and filling out the paperwork correctly is top of the list".

His campaign submitting the forms - just forgot to make sure he signed it.  Not like his campaign just didn't bother registering him.


Apparently...nobody actually has to sign shiz, according to the article. He just needs 2 witnesses to attest to the declaration of candidacy.

He probably should have signed the stupid thing, but that's not what the law says.
 
2021-08-29 11:23:54 AM  

iheartscotch: Dels: Did he not "hereby declare"?

TLDR: They say he has to sign the declaration of candidacy. According to the article, the law actually says 2 witnesses can attest to the declaration and nobody has to sign shiz.

It seems pretty open and shut to me.


Yup.

The section of Virginia law that the Republican Party has cited in their lawsuit states that a political candidate's "declaration shall be acknowledged before some officer who has the authority to take acknowledgments to deeds, or attested by two witnesses who are qualified voters of the election district."
However, the law that is cited doesn't specifically call for a signature - and the candidate form mandates that the declaration either be "acknowledged before a notary" or "witnessed before two persons" who are qualified voters.
 
2021-08-29 11:27:02 AM  
Oh, for fark's sake. Virginia law doesn't require a signature from the candidate. And suppose the court agrees with these chucklefarks. It turns out that the Democratic party then gets to choose a candidate, anycandidate, for the ballot.  I suspect that they just might pick Terry McAuliffe.
 
2021-08-29 11:31:37 AM  
They dun diddly did it again!  Legal powerhouses on the right have found the smoking gun that will win them immediate power!  Look everyone, it's a typo right here!  Invalidate all the paperwork or it's a crime.
 
2021-08-29 11:35:43 AM  

animal color: Glenn Youngkin is a Trumpkin in a moderate money-man's suit. In Virginia, which is the most reasonable state in the South, is also a place no Republican has won statewide in more than a decade. McAuliffe may be a hustler, but he was also an effective governor, according to both Republicans and Democrats. Youngkin has literally no chance of winning in Virginia in an actual vote, so this is what he's got.


The scary thing is, if the state GOP is able to get a judge that is willing to go along with it, they may be able to do so.  Granted the case would end up going before the state Supreme Court, but if they can get him thrown off the ballot, then even if McAuliffe wins the case, he could lose the election due to GQP dirty tricks.

That's the type of people that run that party now.  If you can't win on your merits, find ways to run unopposed.
 
2021-08-29 11:39:22 AM  
Oh, man, now Republicans are going to claim that John Smith and John Rolfe were Deep State agents.
 
2021-08-29 11:39:37 AM  
What the hell does it mean to "infect with illegality"? Is that some weird legal-specific term, or are they just writing like SovCit psychos again?
 
2021-08-29 11:39:44 AM  
Last election showed many they can't win by playing at the margins any more and there aren't consequences for cheating, so, expect them to pull all the stops.
 
2021-08-29 11:40:21 AM  

austerity101: What the hell does it mean to "infect with illegality"? Is that some weird legal-specific term, or are they just writing like SovCit psychos again?


Seeing as the entire GQP is infected with insanity, it's probably some term they came up with on the fly.  Hoping it sounds 'legal'
 
2021-08-29 11:40:42 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: animal color: Glenn Youngkin is a Trumpkin in a moderate money-man's suit. In Virginia, which is the most reasonable state in the South, is also a place no Republican has won statewide in more than a decade. McAuliffe may be a hustler, but he was also an effective governor, according to both Republicans and Democrats. Youngkin has literally no chance of winning in Virginia in an actual vote, so this is what he's got.

The scary thing is, if the state GOP is able to get a judge that is willing to go along with it, they may be able to do so.  Granted the case would end up going before the state Supreme Court, but if they can get him thrown off the ballot, then even if McAuliffe wins the case, he could lose the election due to GQP dirty tricks.

That's the type of people that run that party now.  If you can't win on your merits, find ways to run unopposed.


See my earlier post. Even if he gets thrown off the ballot, he will be on the ballot.
 
2021-08-29 11:42:13 AM  

PiperArrow: AurizenDarkstar: animal color: Glenn Youngkin is a Trumpkin in a moderate money-man's suit. In Virginia, which is the most reasonable state in the South, is also a place no Republican has won statewide in more than a decade. McAuliffe may be a hustler, but he was also an effective governor, according to both Republicans and Democrats. Youngkin has literally no chance of winning in Virginia in an actual vote, so this is what he's got.

The scary thing is, if the state GOP is able to get a judge that is willing to go along with it, they may be able to do so.  Granted the case would end up going before the state Supreme Court, but if they can get him thrown off the ballot, then even if McAuliffe wins the case, he could lose the election due to GQP dirty tricks.

That's the type of people that run that party now.  If you can't win on your merits, find ways to run unopposed.

See my earlier post. Even if he gets thrown off the ballot, he will be on the ballot.


True, but you can bet your ass that the GQP will continue their insanity to find some way to make it so Youngkin runs unopposed.

Hell, even if there's a write-in, I expect the GQP to go to court to fight that as well.  They're not going to stop until they take the governor's mansion.
 
2021-08-29 11:44:40 AM  

Colour_out_of_Space: The GOP proves once again that they respect the Rule of Law - unlike the Socialist Democrat Party.


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2021-08-29 11:45:04 AM  

MadHatter500: Dels: Did he not "hereby declare"?

Didn't sign the forms.

On one hand it's kind of a "You have a small number of things you have to do to run for office, and filling out the paperwork correctly is top of the list".

His campaign submitting the forms - just forgot to make sure he signed it.  Not like his campaign just didn't bother registering him.


It's probably one of those forms where you're supposed to sign half a dozen different places and he overlooked one spot. It would be just like the GOP to leave that detail out.
 
2021-08-29 11:46:27 AM  
The same people who cry "common sense" do this ref-working bullshiat. If it's not the sovereign citizen whackos it's the brooks brothers rioters and cyberninja auditors.
 
2021-08-29 11:46:42 AM  
I figured Texas, Florida, Alabama or Mississippi would be the first state to officially outlaw 'the democrat party', but it looks like Virginia could well be the spoiler.

/by 2024, I figure membership in 'the democrat party' will be totally illegal in at least half the states
 
2021-08-29 11:52:10 AM  
fark. This reminds me, I forgot to go buy post card stamps before the rate increase today.

Oh well. Spending this week writing post cards to Virginia voters.
 
2021-08-29 11:56:06 AM  
Since Republicans cheat, I will assume the signature was washed off the form by a Republican in a plan to have him removed from the ballot. Since Republicans are stupid, I assume it was done sloppily and they have recorded emails about the plan.
 
2021-08-29 12:01:08 PM  
Is it small and petty and a waste of a lot of people's time?  Yes.

BUT... would the Democrats also do it if the rolls were reversed?  Yes.

This has probably happened many times before in Gubernatorial, Senate, and House races across the country.  Someone forgets to cross a T or dot an I and the opposing side flips out, thinking they've got the golden key to utterly destroy their opponent.  The only reason this is news is because everything's so damn hyper-partisan that of course the media is gonna run with it.
 
2021-08-29 12:02:25 PM  

qorkfiend: Sure. Why not? Doesn't cost anything directly and it might stick.


That's a big part of the problem though, isn't it? They can freely try any hail marry without any repercussions.  I mean if there was any take away from the last presidential election it's that you might as well claim fraud and foment violence. Sure it most likely won't help but it can't hurt so...

At this point BS and lawsuits are just part of the process.
 
2021-08-29 12:05:52 PM  

hugadarn: qorkfiend: Sure. Why not? Doesn't cost anything directly and it might stick.

That's a big part of the problem though, isn't it? They can freely try any hail marry without any repercussions.  I mean if there was any take away from the last presidential election it's that you might as well claim fraud and foment violence. Sure it most likely won't help but it can't hurt so...

At this point BS and lawsuits are just part of the process.


Seems highly unlikely to succeed.
Probably better to spend time deciding who you'll vote for.
 
2021-08-29 12:10:41 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: MadHatter500: Dels: Did he not "hereby declare"?

Didn't sign the forms.

On one hand it's kind of a "You have a small number of things you have to do to run for office, and filling out the paperwork correctly is top of the list".

His campaign submitting the forms - just forgot to make sure he signed it.  Not like his campaign just didn't bother registering him.

It's probably one of those forms where you're supposed to sign half a dozen different places and he overlooked one spot. It would be just like the GOP to leave that detail out.


It's a form that explicitly doesn't need to be signed, per Virginia law. They are accusing him of breaking a law that says the opposite of what they say it says.
 
2021-08-29 12:11:28 PM  
In the space marked, "do not write in this space," you wrote, "ok."
 
2021-08-29 12:12:27 PM  

Animatronik: hugadarn: qorkfiend: Sure. Why not? Doesn't cost anything directly and it might stick.

That's a big part of the problem though, isn't it? They can freely try any hail marry without any repercussions.  I mean if there was any take away from the last presidential election it's that you might as well claim fraud and foment violence. Sure it most likely won't help but it can't hurt so...

At this point BS and lawsuits are just part of the process.

Seems highly unlikely to succeed.
Probably better to spend time deciding who you'll vote for.


I don't play the lottery because I most likely won't win and every dollar that goes to a ticket is better spent on other things. But If a ticket cost me nothing then there is no reason not to play.  I am willing to bet these stunts earn them more in gofundmes and campaign donations than they cost in legal fees.
 
2021-08-29 12:12:49 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: Is it small and petty and a waste of a lot of people's time?  Yes.

BUT... would the Democrats also do it if the rolls were reversed?  Yes.

This has probably happened many times before in Gubernatorial, Senate, and House races across the country.  Someone forgets to cross a T or dot an I and the opposing side flips out, thinking they've got the golden key to utterly destroy their opponent.  The only reason this is news is because everything's so damn hyper-partisan that of course the media is gonna run with it.


both sides are bad huh
 
2021-08-29 12:16:27 PM  
The ideal GOP ballot might look like:

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2021-08-29 12:21:46 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: Is it small and petty and a waste of a lot of people's time?  Yes.

BUT... would the Democrats also do it if the rolls were reversed?  Yes.

This has probably happened many times before in Gubernatorial, Senate, and House races across the country.  Someone forgets to cross a T or dot an I and the opposing side flips out, thinking they've got the golden key to utterly destroy their opponent.  The only reason this is news is because everything's so damn hyper-partisan that of course the media is gonna run with it.


Actually that narrative has been shown  time and time to be not true. Example being gerrymandering, when Republicans are in power they push the envelope to do as much as they can get away with. When democrats are in power they at most do what there is a precedent for, but often push for independent commissions. Or you could compare Hillary Clinton's loss to Trump's. You can compare a little bit of sour grapes on the part of Dems with Jan 6th. And the kraken lawyers.
 
2021-08-29 12:21:51 PM  
Just a reminder... because fark Youngkin..

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Sorry for the potato quality pic.
 
2021-08-29 12:23:08 PM  
Have any of you other Virginians gotten this nonsense?  If so, feel free to send this same response.  This is just too stupid to ignore.
 
2021-08-29 12:23:35 PM  

RasIanI: Another blatant assault on the democratic process by the GOP in America.


Another blatant assault on the democratic process by the GOP in America.

ftfe
 
2021-08-29 12:24:57 PM  

jclaggett: fark. This reminds me, I forgot to go buy post card stamps before the rate increase today.

Oh well. Spending this week writing post cards to Virginia voters.


Save the money and skip me, nothing on this green earth could get me to vote for a Republican at this point. Maaaybe if they spend the next 10 years in sackcloth and ashes serving the poor and donating all their wealth to actual charities and not political action committees, I could potentially change my mind, but if it were literally Satan Vs. the Republican on the ballot, I'm voting for Satan.
 
2021-08-29 12:25:34 PM  

From Philly to Boston: Colour_out_of_Space: The GOP proves once again that they respect the Rule of Law - unlike the Socialist Democrat Party.

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Out of space. Duh.
 
2021-08-29 12:27:56 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: They're not going to stop until they take the governor's mansion.


No - the presidency.

Which they'll then turn into the dictatorship they REALLY want.
 
2021-08-29 12:29:11 PM  

Animatronik: hugadarn: qorkfiend: Sure. Why not? Doesn't cost anything directly and it might stick.

That's a big part of the problem though, isn't it? They can freely try any hail marry without any repercussions.  I mean if there was any take away from the last presidential election it's that you might as well claim fraud and foment violence. Sure it most likely won't help but it can't hurt so...

At this point BS and lawsuits are just part of the process.

Seems highly unlikely to succeed.
Probably better to spend time deciding who you'll vote for.


Are you feeling ok?
 
2021-08-29 12:32:39 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: Is it small and petty and a waste of a lot of people's time?  Yes.

BUT... would the Democrats also do it if the rolls were reversed?  Yes.

This has probably happened many times before in Gubernatorial, Senate, and House races across the country.  Someone forgets to cross a T or dot an I and the opposing side flips out, thinking they've got the golden key to utterly destroy their opponent.  The only reason this is news is because everything's so damn hyper-partisan that of course the media is gonna run with it.


ESAD
 
2021-08-29 12:35:02 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: Is it small and petty and a waste of a lot of people's time?  Yes.

BUT... would the Democrats also do it if the rolls were reversed?  Yes.

This has probably happened many times before in Gubernatorial, Senate, and House races across the country.  Someone forgets to cross a T or dot an I and the opposing side flips out, thinking they've got the golden key to utterly destroy their opponent.  The only reason this is news is because everything's so damn hyper-partisan that of course the media is gonna run with it.


Bullshiat. Why do you people force us to imagine crap so you can have your both-sides-bad masturbation session? Too farking early in the morning, man.
 
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