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2021-08-27 11:45:51 AM  
Between him and RBG, it's like there's some farking high score competition once you're on the bench.

Retire while there's actually a chance of seating a replacement.
 
2021-08-27 11:55:45 AM  
Get off the lawn, old man!!
 
2021-08-27 11:56:46 AM  

NeoCortex42: Between him and RBG, it's like there's some farking high score competition once you're on the bench.

Retire while there's actually a chance of seating a replacement.


Dammit, THIS. The Supreme Court will survive without you.  Retire before some f*cking madman gets elected and seats Roland Freisler.
 
2021-08-27 12:03:37 PM  
If you're gonna go, go when you can help choose your replacement.

And if the Republicans have that farking gall to say anything....
 
2021-08-27 12:05:27 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Retire before some f*cking madman gets elected and seats Roland Freisler.


Eh, he's not so bad. Independence Day was pretty good.
 
2021-08-27 12:10:30 PM  

wegro: Benevolent Misanthrope: Retire before some f*cking madman gets elected and seats Roland Freisler.

Eh, he's not so bad. Independence Day was pretty good.


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2021-08-27 1:02:11 PM  
motherfarker
 
2021-08-27 1:05:27 PM  
He is waffling now, which is actually a good sign. A few months ago he was saying "f*ck no" to retirement.
 
2021-08-27 1:21:29 PM  
Just retire, please, this is about much more than just you.
 
2021-08-27 1:22:01 PM  
What kind of replacement would Manchin and Sinema approve?
 
2021-08-27 1:22:39 PM  

Gin Buddy: What kind of replacement would Manchin and Sinema approve?


They haven't held up any judicial appointments
 
2021-08-27 1:22:51 PM  
Its so much wrong that when he retires matters so much. If he waits 2 year the GOP may have 51 senators and refuse to confirm anyone.

Lifetime appointments and the politicization of the judiciary are signs.of how dysfunctional the system is.

I say dysfunctional but I mean totally broken.
 
2021-08-27 1:22:57 PM  

Gin Buddy: What kind of replacement would Manchin and Sinema approve?


The pillow guy.
 
2021-08-27 1:26:21 PM  

NeoCortex42: Between him and RBG, it's like there's some farking high score competition once you're on the bench.

Retire while there's actually a chance of seating a replacement.


But if he retires, he loses his chance of winning the pool for whoever literally dies during oral arguments that's been accumulating since founding.
 
2021-08-27 1:26:28 PM  

Gin Buddy: What kind of replacement would Manchin and Sinema approve?


Probably not a full-on liberal one, but still a lot better than the vacant seat that would be approved if Mitch has the majority again.
 
2021-08-27 1:27:52 PM  
Sounds like he's seriously on the fence.
 
2021-08-27 1:28:31 PM  
My solution: each POTUS gets one guy per term. Super majority required to block an appointment. After a block, POTUS gets to pick two more, senate picks one.

Judges retire as they please. Total numbers vary over time, big whoop.

If an odd number is required (some of you really think this is super important), straws are drawn for who sits each decision out when the court has an even number.
 
2021-08-27 1:31:11 PM  

GardenWeasel: Gin Buddy: What kind of replacement would Manchin and Sinema approve?

They haven't held up any judicial appointments


They also haven't been 100% reliable.
 
2021-08-27 1:33:37 PM  
The time was yesterday, but I'll take between now and next Easter.

Seriously. RBG was a workhorse, but she was thisclose, and yet so far, from making it.
 
2021-08-27 1:34:08 PM  
"He said, 'I don't want somebody appointed who will just reverse everything I've done for the last 25 years,'" Breyer explained.

I thought we had it on good word the courts aren't politicized.
 
2021-08-27 1:34:59 PM  

Gin Buddy: What kind of replacement would Manchin and Sinema approve?


The one the turtle tells them to approve.
 
2021-08-27 1:36:10 PM  

Samfucious: "He said, 'I don't want somebody appointed who will just reverse everything I've done for the last 25 years,'" Breyer explained.

I thought we had it on good word the courts aren't politicized.


That was Breyer quoting Scalia. My copy paste skills need work.
 
2021-08-27 1:39:22 PM  
Why not remove appointments from elected politicians? A non-partisan judicial appointments commission selects judges based on their knowledge of the law, experience and integrity. It'll never happen for reasons we all know, but the broken political system in America is close to irreparably damaging the judicial system too.
 
2021-08-27 1:39:29 PM  
Honestly, the Supreme Court is lost. Democrats had the chance to balance it in 2020 and decided to fark around instead. Now all these shiatty SCOTUS decisions coming down the pipe means they get to find out. It doesn't matter what Breyer does or doesn't do, a 7-2 majority is going to have the same judicial consequences as a 6-3 majority. Start making peace with the reality that the Supreme Court is lost, because Breyer retiring under a Democrat is a pretty pathetic consolation prize.
 
2021-08-27 1:41:38 PM  
Is seniority on SCOTUS worth anything, other than which seat they get and whether they stand or sit during group photos?
 
2021-08-27 1:43:03 PM  
Damn, so close.  I thought Subby was referring to James Carville.
 
2021-08-27 1:44:26 PM  
Ten bucks says:

1) The Republicans will take back the Senate majority in 2023
2) Breyer will die sometime in February 2023
3) Mitch McConnell will keep the seat open until after the 2024 presidential election in the hopes that a Republican will win the presidency and get to nominate Breyer's replacement.
 
2021-08-27 1:46:53 PM  

NeoCortex42: Between him and RBG, it's like there's some farking high score competition once you're on the bench.

Retire while there's actually a chance of seating a replacement.


Anthony Kennedy didn't wait until he died before stepping down...

He just waited until he was blackmailed.
 
2021-08-27 1:47:18 PM  

Weatherkiss: Honestly, the Supreme Court is lost. Democrats had the chance to balance it in 2020 and decided to fark around instead. Now all these shiatty SCOTUS decisions coming down the pipe means they get to find out. It doesn't matter what Breyer does or doesn't do, a 7-2 majority is going to have the same judicial consequences as a 6-3 majority. Start making peace with the reality that the Supreme Court is lost, because Breyer retiring under a Democrat is a pretty pathetic consolation prize.


Still, one fewer seat to claw back could mean years of horrible decisions avoided in the future.  Plus Alito and Thomas are old, and the next Senate map is actually favorable for Dems.
 
2021-08-27 1:47:44 PM  
Lol, I don't know what the fark this is but it cracked me up.

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2021-08-27 1:48:27 PM  

Serious Black: Ten bucks says:

1) The Republicans will take back the Senate majority in 2023
2) Breyer will die sometime in February 2023
3) Mitch McConnell will keep the seat open until after the 2024 presidential election in the hopes that a Republican will win the presidency and get to nominate Breyer's replacement.


No bet here. McConnel didn't imply but straight up SAID that, if the GOP wins the Senate next year, he will not allow Biden to pick a new Justice. So, Breyer is just being a dickhead.
 
2021-08-27 1:49:11 PM  

Gawdzila: Weatherkiss: Honestly, the Supreme Court is lost. Democrats had the chance to balance it in 2020 and decided to fark around instead. Now all these shiatty SCOTUS decisions coming down the pipe means they get to find out. It doesn't matter what Breyer does or doesn't do, a 7-2 majority is going to have the same judicial consequences as a 6-3 majority. Start making peace with the reality that the Supreme Court is lost, because Breyer retiring under a Democrat is a pretty pathetic consolation prize.

Still, one fewer seat to claw back could mean years of horrible decisions avoided in the future.  Plus Alito and Thomas are old, and the next Senate map is actually favorable for Dems.


Horrible decisions are being made now, and will continue to be made long before Alito and Thomas leave the bench.
 
2021-08-27 1:49:29 PM  
Retire!
Then, we send Hillary out to Pelican Brief a couple of more openings, just as soon as covid cases are down and the DC porno theaters reopen.
 
2021-08-27 1:52:07 PM  
Breyer needs to GTFO there -- he understands what's up.
 
2021-08-27 1:53:59 PM  
How does yesterday sound?
 
2021-08-27 1:55:38 PM  
He'll retire when Republicans take back the Senate so that he can prove comity still exists when they approve Biden's choice of replacement rather than hold it open because "the people should decide in the next election."
 
2021-08-27 1:58:36 PM  
Jesus farking Christ.

Put the effing One Ring DOWN, Frodo.
 
2021-08-27 2:02:23 PM  

Weatherkiss: Honestly, the Supreme Court is lost. Democrats had the chance to balance it in 2020 and decided to fark around instead. Now all these shiatty SCOTUS decisions coming down the pipe means they get to find out. It doesn't matter what Breyer does or doesn't do, a 7-2 majority is going to have the same judicial consequences as a 6-3 majority. Start making peace with the reality that the Supreme Court is lost, because Breyer retiring under a Democrat is a pretty pathetic consolation prize.


Dem's didn't take power until 2021. How do  you figure?
 
2021-08-27 2:03:55 PM  
Obviously the best time to retire is never. It's not like Republicans will take over the Senate and block any nominations from a Democratic president if you die.
 
2021-08-27 2:05:00 PM  
Thankfully RBG retired before she died. (Snark)
 
2021-08-27 2:05:35 PM  

Puffyshirt: Why not remove appointments from elected politicians? A non-partisan judicial appointments commission selects judges based on their knowledge of the law, experience and integrity. It'll never happen for reasons we all know, but the broken political system in America is close to irreparably damaging the judicial system too.


But then who gets to appoint the commission?

It's political all the way down.
 
2021-08-27 2:08:04 PM  

gilgigamesh: Jesus farking Christ.

Put the effing One Ring DOWN, Frodo.


Frodohhh with the Nine Derpers...
 
2021-08-27 2:15:46 PM  

RasIanI: Breyer needs to GTFO there -- he understands what's up.


Well, therein lies the problem. I don't think he understands a goddamned thing. He doesn't understand what it's like to be wedged between your employers and your landlord while trying to pay down college debt and feed yourself (and maybe your family, if you decided to follow that script). He doesn't know what it's like to do all the "right" things and still loose, as increasing numbers have been for the past decades. He doesn't know what it's like to be trapped in a cycle of survival at a time when social mobility is at an all time low.

I'd also put money on his having no idea what it's like to be targeted by police for anything for any reason. Who knows if he's ever experienced being the target of violence.

And there's the root of the problem. We have decisions being made by people who've stayed on script, and been rewarded for it, with few surprises, and nothing of the unfair parts of life to derail their expectations of eventual reward, for a populations that struggle for opportunity, while predatory capitalists randomly pick them off for the quarterly bottom line.

No, he has no clue what's up. And if people in power generally did "get it", we'd be seeing vastly different behaviors from them.
 
2021-08-27 2:22:52 PM  

Serious Black: Ten bucks says:

1) The Republicans will take back the Senate majority in 2023
2) Breyer will die sometime in February 2023
3) Mitch McConnell will keep the seat open until after the 2024 presidential election in the hopes that a Republican will win the presidency and get to nominate Breyer's replacement.


4) If Biden somehow wins re-election, Mitch will keep the seat open until 2029.
 
2021-08-27 2:32:03 PM  

Weatherkiss: Gawdzila: Weatherkiss: Honestly, the Supreme Court is lost. Democrats had the chance to balance it in 2020 and decided to fark around instead. Now all these shiatty SCOTUS decisions coming down the pipe means they get to find out. It doesn't matter what Breyer does or doesn't do, a 7-2 majority is going to have the same judicial consequences as a 6-3 majority. Start making peace with the reality that the Supreme Court is lost, because Breyer retiring under a Democrat is a pretty pathetic consolation prize.

Still, one fewer seat to claw back could mean years of horrible decisions avoided in the future.  Plus Alito and Thomas are old, and the next Senate map is actually favorable for Dems.

Horrible decisions are being made now, and will continue to be made long before Alito and Thomas leave the bench.


No argument from me on that, I'm just saying that preserving even one seat for sanity is still useful looking forward.
 
2021-08-27 2:32:04 PM  
These justices are arrogant and slow-witted. Fossils. I'm absolutely f****** of the mind that they are part of a conspiracy to change America into the fascist dictatorship that it's slowly transforming into.
 
2021-08-27 2:46:07 PM  

Gawdzila: ...and the next Senate map is actually favorable for Dems.


Uh, yeah. I won't believe that until AFTER all of the votes are counted and all of the elections are certified. Does that favorability for Dems factor in Republicans farking with elections?
 
2021-08-27 2:49:43 PM  
Goddamn that RBG. We could've been getting oppressed 5-4 instead of 6-3!
 
2021-08-27 2:55:45 PM  

GardenWeasel: He is waffling now, which is actually a good sign. A few months ago he was saying "f*ck no" to retirement.


He's waffling because he's running into the Reaper hanging out in his living room, or standing in the corner of the kitchen while he's making breakfast.
He's deciding if he should die in office soon or step down and be pressured to get on the media circuit for a while. The latter probably scares him because he'll be out of his comfort zone. Extra stress.
Either way, I think he knows his expiration date got bumped up.
 
2021-08-27 2:55:57 PM  
Breyer needs to retire.
Thomas and Alito need to catch Polonium Covid
 
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