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(Law and Crime)   Prosecutors of that fine All-American boy Kyle Rittenhouse would like to use a video clip of him sitting in a car fantasizing about using his "AR" to shoot two black men coming out of a CVS who he assumes are shoplifters because...well, black men   (lawandcrime.com) divider line
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2021-08-19 10:45:18 PM  
At the very least he should end up in a mental hospital the rest of his life.

The old school kind.
 
2021-08-19 11:50:20 PM  
Are the prosecutors also going to interview his former fellow students who all "just knew" he'd one day be an "active shooter"?
 
2021-08-20 12:26:37 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Are the prosecutors also going to interview his former fellow students who all "just knew" he'd one day be an "active shooter"?


Is there a citation of some kind for this?
 
2021-08-20 12:31:42 AM  

blastoh: GreatGlavinsGhost: Are the prosecutors also going to interview his former fellow students who all "just knew" he'd one day be an "active shooter"?

Is there a citation of some kind for this?


I had it on a previous device and am currently looking for it ...
 
2021-08-20 12:34:04 AM  

blastoh: GreatGlavinsGhost: Are the prosecutors also going to interview his former fellow students who all "just knew" he'd one day be an "active shooter"?

Is there a citation of some kind for this?


Here is a link from Vice, but it's not the one I had from before.
 
2021-08-20 6:48:38 AM  
I'm looking forward to the day I get to read about KKKlye getting beat to death in prison.
 
2021-08-20 6:50:03 AM  
Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?
 
2021-08-20 6:53:18 AM  

hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?


To be fair those same people would see nothing unusual about this.
 
2021-08-20 6:54:59 AM  
His family is selling Free Kyle t-shirts to fund his defence... I'm curious if anyone started selling Seen Kyle ones when the little dipshiat went awol.
 
2021-08-20 6:55:36 AM  
The second amendment only counts when white people are holding the guns Subby. This ain't nothing new, just the latest chapter in a long sad history of white people feeling a need to violently "defend themselves" against non-white people first and inventing a reason second.

Meanwhile, does anyone ask why so few countries have a right to have guns? It's a terrible farking idea. Kyle Rittenhouse is just the millionth or so example of the same farking problem.
 
2021-08-20 7:01:09 AM  
Like it or not, and I hope not, that's pretty farking American right there.
 
2021-08-20 7:04:08 AM  
It was just a joke, bruh.  You beta male cucks don't understand satire.
 
2021-08-20 7:04:41 AM  
Who among you hasn't publicly fantasized about murdering people because of their race?  I'm just glad there were no cameras around when I was poor Kyle's age to record my racist rants and fantasies of murder.  The way you libs regard the words and actions of people as an indication of the character makes me sick!
 
2021-08-20 7:05:01 AM  
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2021-08-20 7:05:22 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Who among you hasn't publicly fantasized about murdering people because of their race?  I'm just glad there were no cameras around when I was poor Kyle's age to record my racist rants and fantasies of murder.  The way you libs regard the words and actions of people as an indication of the character makes me sick!


Me, you demented fark.
 
2021-08-20 7:06:26 AM  

hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?


None of those Brave Republicans™ gave a shiat about Kyle. I'm sure they think the little backwards hat wearing turd is as pathetic as we do.


They care deeply about his gun. Full stop.
 
2021-08-20 7:08:07 AM  

Flappyhead: It was just a joke, bruh.  You beta male cucks don't understand satire.


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2021-08-20 7:08:25 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Who among you hasn't publicly fantasized about murdering people because of their race?  I'm just glad there were no cameras around when I was poor Kyle's age to record my racist rants and fantasies of murder.  The way you libs regard the words and actions of people as an indication of the character makes me sick!


Okay, you got me...  too early for this shiat...
 
2021-08-20 7:11:12 AM  
1) Fake video
2) Real video, but can't prove it's my client
3) My client is being quoted out of context in that maliciously edited video
4) Prosecutorial misuse of Constitutionally protected freeze peach, to prejudice the jury
5) Everybody says stuff like that
 
2021-08-20 7:11:31 AM  

hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?


And did you know that George Floyd once pointed a gun at a pregnant women and appeared in a pornographic video? This changes everything about the facts of that day. No, I mean the opposite of that. Why do you think it changes anything at all?
 
2021-08-20 7:12:23 AM  
The most violent and infamous murderer during BLM protests was a radical righty?

No way.  Next thing you'll tell me is that the mist infamous burning of a federal facility during BLM protests was started by a Boogaloo Boy.
Don't do it.  I can't take the truth.  Because by my own right wing process, it would mean that all Republicans want all Republicans out of the country.  You can see the whole divide by zero thing here, right?
 
2021-08-20 7:13:36 AM  

Flappyhead: It was just a joke, bruh.  You beta male cucks don't understand satire.


Conservative humor at its best.
 
2021-08-20 7:15:02 AM  

Klyukva: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

And did you know that George Floyd once pointed a gun at a pregnant women and appeared in a pornographic video? This changes everything about the facts of that day. No, I mean the opposite of that. Why do you think it changes anything at all?


Go read up on state of mind and the difference between victim and criminal you racist fark
 
2021-08-20 7:16:14 AM  

brokenbiscuits: His family is selling Free Kyle t-shirts to fund his defence... I'm curious if anyone started selling Seen Kyle ones when the little dipshiat went awol.


Yeah, but the guy is short... joke doesn't work as well because he's like 5'2
 
2021-08-20 7:17:49 AM  

pueblonative: Klyukva: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

And did you know that George Floyd once pointed a gun at a pregnant women and appeared in a pornographic video? This changes everything about the facts of that day. No, I mean the opposite of that. Why do you think it changes anything at all?

Go read up on state of mind and the difference between victim and criminal you racist fark


And patterns of behavior.
 
2021-08-20 7:21:00 AM  

The Drawing Board: I'm looking forward to the day I get to read about KKKlye getting beat to death in prison.


It's just as likely he's picked as Nicholas Sandmann's running mate in a few years.
 
2021-08-20 7:23:20 AM  

pueblonative: Klyukva: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

And did you know that George Floyd once pointed a gun at a pregnant women and appeared in a pornographic video? This changes everything about the facts of that day. No, I mean the opposite of that. Why do you think it changes anything at all?

Go read up on state of mind and the difference between victim and criminal you racist fark


The victim here is Kyle, attacked by a mob (for the crime of putting out a fire) then subjected to a politically-motivated prosecution.
 
2021-08-20 7:24:55 AM  

Klyukva: pueblonative: Klyukva: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

And did you know that George Floyd once pointed a gun at a pregnant women and appeared in a pornographic video? This changes everything about the facts of that day. No, I mean the opposite of that. Why do you think it changes anything at all?

Go read up on state of mind and the difference between victim and criminal you racist fark

The victim here is Kyle, attacked by a mob (for the crime of putting out a fire) then subjected to a politically-motivated prosecution.


He's right!  I heard this on Joe Rogan and I also read it on a beef jerky.
 
2021-08-20 7:27:29 AM  
You mean to tell me this fine upstanding citizen had dreams about his weapon that didn't involve hunting and plinking at targets?

Quelle surprise
 
2021-08-20 7:28:50 AM  

Klyukva: pueblonative: Klyukva: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

And did you know that George Floyd once pointed a gun at a pregnant women and appeared in a pornographic video? This changes everything about the facts of that day. No, I mean the opposite of that. Why do you think it changes anything at all?

Go read up on state of mind and the difference between victim and criminal you racist fark

The victim here is Kyle, attacked by a mob (for the crime of putting out a fire) then subjected to a politically-motivated prosecution.


And crossing state lines with a gun he shouldn't have had in the first place. Yeah put out all the farking dumpster fires you want your ass belongs in jail for a long time. You can be on the inmate fire squad (once we come up with a bomb collar).
 
2021-08-20 7:32:30 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Who among you hasn't publicly fantasized about murdering people because of their race?  I'm just glad there were no cameras around when I was poor Kyle's age to record my racist rants and fantasies of murder.  The way you libs regard the words and actions of people as an indication of the character makes me sick!


The words and actions of a person are exactly how we judge people. Because those are generally all we have as evidence of what kind of person somebody is, now I hope for your sake this was an ill thought out joke, if it isn't I hope you live alone on a deserted island somewhere.... And no most people don't fantasize about killing anybody let alone people of other races
 
2021-08-20 7:34:39 AM  
I love how this little biatch thinks he's the CVS police.


WHO CARES IF THEY WERE STEALING! YOU DO NOT WORK LOSS PREVENTION FOR CVS.
 
2021-08-20 7:36:42 AM  
IANAL (every chance I get, really), but this sounds really bad for the little race warrior.

I was previously of the opinion that he had a reasonably good chance of beating the charges on a basis of self-defense, but this really suggests his motives were violent from the beginning.

Question for actual law-talkers: Will this evidence be shown, or rejected as "irrelevant" or "inflammatory"?
 
2021-08-20 7:42:25 AM  
He ain't fine, he's pudgy and has a misshapen asymmetrical face.
Oh you mean upstanding: he's a murdering racist.
Let's stop with the snark with this asshole. Call him what he is.
 
2021-08-20 7:46:02 AM  

aagrajag: IANAL (every chance I get, really), but this sounds really bad for the little race warrior.

I was previously of the opinion that he had a reasonably good chance of beating the charges on a basis of self-defense, but this really suggests his motives were violent from the beginning.

Question for actual law-talkers: Will this evidence be shown, or rejected as "irrelevant" or "inflammatory"?


A judge will decide. In my jurisdiction, that would 100% come in.
I've also never represented a multiple murderer who was white knighted by 30% of the population. When my clients shoot three people, everyone is always angry at them so his mileage may vary.
 
2021-08-20 7:48:15 AM  
Dude is a folk hero to gun nuts.
 
2021-08-20 7:54:53 AM  

boohyah: Rapmaster2000: Who among you hasn't publicly fantasized about murdering people because of their race?  I'm just glad there were no cameras around when I was poor Kyle's age to record my racist rants and fantasies of murder.  The way you libs regard the words and actions of people as an indication of the character makes me sick!

The words and actions of a person are exactly how we judge people. Because those are generally all we have as evidence of what kind of person somebody is, now I hope for your sake this was an ill thought out joke, if it isn't I hope you live alone on a deserted island somewhere.... And no most people don't fantasize about killing anybody let alone people of other races


Recalibrate your sarcasm detector, insert quarter, and try again.
 
2021-08-20 7:55:34 AM  

DarnoKonrad: Dude is a folk hero to gun nuts.


Yeah. All those grown men standing around posing with body armor and tricked-out rifles with $2000 scopes, none of them lifted a finger to stop the arsonists and when the mob went after Kyle they scattered like rabbits. This Hispanic kid with nothing but a borrowed basic-bones AR put them all to shame.
 
2021-08-20 7:55:44 AM  
Why is AR in scare-quotes?
 
2021-08-20 7:56:15 AM  

hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?


Yup. They screeeeeeeeeeched about it for a good long while.

Funny, they've all disappeared.
 
2021-08-20 8:02:59 AM  

HerptheDerp: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

Yup. They screeeeeeeeeeched about it for a good long while.

Funny, they've all disappeared.


Check the ICUs.
 
2021-08-20 8:03:25 AM  

HerptheDerp: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

Yup. They screeeeeeeeeeched about it for a good long while.

Funny, they've all disappeared.


There's one like 2 replies up from you doing a masterful artistic mental gymnastics routine
 
2021-08-20 8:07:41 AM  
Lock his farking ass up.  Forever.
 
2021-08-20 8:10:56 AM  

HerptheDerp: hardinparamedic: Remember how many brave Fark Republicans came around to tell us how, in no uncertain false detail and with callous gaslighting, how the bad anti-fascists attacked him first and tried to batter him with a skateboard?

Or how he was just a brave kid defending his community from scary race riots?

Yup. They screeeeeeeeeeched about it for a good long while.

Funny, they've all disappeared.


Where it might get really twitchy is here:

What if he really did go there with every intention of finding a legal excuse to shoot someone?

And what if also someone attacked him and gave him exactly that excuse?

Does his right to self-defense evaporate because he deliberately put himself in a position in which he would be likely to need to use lethal force to prevent himself from being killed?

That isn't a rhetorical question; it's a legal one.

Rittenhouse's actions seem not unlike swaggering into a biker bar, bellying up to the biggest, nastiest brute there and asking him if his mother is doing her usual 2-for-1 blowjob special this weekend. If said brute starts to beat the shiat out of you to a point at which anyone would have a reasonable fear of being beaten to death, do you still have a right to pull out a gun and shoot him dead in self-defense?
 
2021-08-20 8:14:18 AM  

aagrajag: Rittenhouse's actions seem not unlike swaggering into a biker bar, bellying up to the biggest, nastiest brute there and asking him if his mother is doing her usual 2-for-1 blowjob special this weekend. If said brute starts to beat the shiat out of you to a point at which anyone would have a reasonable fear of being beaten to death, do you still have a right to pull out a gun and shoot him dead in self-defense?


I think that's the entire purpose of the concept of "fighting words". Someone who attacks you after you called him a string of epithets is still guilty, but you no longer get to clam self-defense.
 
2021-08-20 8:15:57 AM  
Sounds like a pretty relevant piece of evidence -- goes to state of mind.

Defense will argue that it is irrelevant and should be excluded because the full, accurate picture of KKKyle Rittenhouse's mental disposition will prejudice the jury against him.

Heaven forbid they should have all the facts.
 
2021-08-20 8:17:15 AM  
White kid + AR15 - 3 white guys = racist.

Gotcha
 
2021-08-20 8:17:21 AM  
Yeah, they straight up executed that dude
 
2021-08-20 8:17:57 AM  
Arrest his mother for being an accessory before and after the fact.
 
2021-08-20 8:22:50 AM  

Subtle_Canary: White kid + AR15 - 3 white guys = racist.

Gotcha


Would you be happier if he'd only shot Black folks?

His motivation for going to the protests was the fact that it was Black people protesting against the regular extrajudicial killings of Black people by the Police, and he wanted to "get him some of dat." He had stated his intention to do so to his Mommy, and she facilitated it by purchasing the rifle for him, and then driving him to the protests.
 
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