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(Guardian)   Like Dian Fossey lived among the gorillas, I moved among the freedumbs. This is my story   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-08-19 11:54:33 AM  
tl;dr  The freedumb morans are every bit as stupid as you think they are
 
2021-08-19 12:01:55 PM  
Jane Goodall was incredibly careful around gorillas, which is why she wasn't torn limb from limb.

Whereas antimaskxxers are the equivalent of running into a group of gorillas, screaming and baring your fangs, all while you're covered in blueberries.
 
2021-08-19 12:04:06 PM  

gameshowhost: Jane Goodall was incredibly careful around gorillas, which is why she wasn't torn limb from limb.

Whereas antimaskxxers are the equivalent of running into a group of gorillas, screaming and baring your fangs, all while you're covered in blueberries.


"It was far easier for you, as civilized men, to behave like barbarians than it was for them, as barbarians, to behave like civilized men.

" - Spock, "Mirror, Mirror"
 
2021-08-19 12:18:35 PM  
It's interesting how they (and there are many like this I know) *always* believe that anyone wearing a mask is "scared".  They can't reconcile that people are doing it to protect the community and/or other people.  Right-wing media told them masks were a liberal thing, the virus is way less of a big deal than it's being made out to be so anyone wearing a mask is either being forced or is a "liberal" - and "liberals" are worse people than them so there's *no* way they could be wearing masks to help others.  It's out of fear or to make a statement.

/morons
 
2021-08-19 12:30:55 PM  
Frank sounds like a bit of a coont.

Oh, a libertarian, that explains it
 
2021-08-19 1:00:35 PM  
"I've heard many a tirade from Frank about "handouts" and the welfare state, but he is also generous in his way. He's flown out from Michigan at the drop of a hat to help distribute food to hurricane victims, or to stack sandbags against an impending flood. He dismisses the risks of a coronavirus infection, but he's also donated thousands of dollars to small restaurants ailing under lockdown.

...

This has become, for us, a familiar impasse. He tends to distinguish between those worthy and unworthy of concern. I worry about what falls into the crevices of such divides."



This has been my experience as well. I've known quite a few conservatives/libertarians/evangel​icals who were generous with time and money, particularly for one-off aid trips, but only up to the point where they control the choice of whether or not to help and (to a degree) who gets help. This is why they'll usually laugh at you if you tell them they don't believe in charity or helping people or whatever, but as soon as the government is used as a vehicle for aid and they lose both veto power and the feeling that they (or their organization) is moral for choosing to help, then they're all about the "freedom" to not have to pay for moochers.
 
2021-08-19 1:23:02 PM  
Like Jane Goodall among the gorillas...?

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2021-08-19 1:23:37 PM  
A literal Cletus safari. Pass.
 
2021-08-19 1:23:40 PM  
The gorillas were probably more intelligent and less violent.
 
2021-08-19 1:23:48 PM  
Not sure a mortal human can recover for this...
 
2021-08-19 1:24:23 PM  
I've said from the start that these people are scared. And they way they cope with the fear is to pretend everything is fine and everyone else is overreacting.
 
2021-08-19 1:24:24 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: "I've heard many a tirade from Frank about "handouts" and the welfare state, but he is also generous in his way. He's flown out from Michigan at the drop of a hat to help distribute food to hurricane victims, or to stack sandbags against an impending flood. He dismisses the risks of a coronavirus infection, but he's also donated thousands of dollars to small restaurants ailing under lockdown.

...

This has become, for us, a familiar impasse. He tends to distinguish between those worthy and unworthy of concern. I worry about what falls into the crevices of such divides."


This has been my experience as well. I've known quite a few conservatives/libertarians/evangel​icals who were generous with time and money, particularly for one-off aid trips, but only up to the point where they control the choice of whether or not to help and (to a degree) who gets help. This is why they'll usually laugh at you if you tell them they don't believe in charity or helping people or whatever, but as soon as the government is used as a vehicle for aid and they lose both veto power and the feeling that they (or their organization) is moral for choosing to help, then they're all about the "freedom" to not have to pay for moochers.


Man I'd like to say the same but I can't even come close. My family on both my mom and dad side are conservative and wouldn't give a dime to somebody if they were getting 9 cents back in change. Despite the fact of course that many of them are receiving a subsidized life either directly or indirectly from the government .
 
2021-08-19 1:24:29 PM  
Over drinks one evening, I asked a bartender for a drink without a straw, explaining I was concerned about disposable plastic. "I love plastic," Frank responded with a mischievous smile.


For what possible reason would an adult need or want a straw?
 
2021-08-19 1:24:36 PM  
The part of me that fights off imaginary ninjas and velociraptors is just itching for someone to start some shiat in the grocery store over me wearing a mask.
 
2021-08-19 1:25:03 PM  
 
2021-08-19 1:25:57 PM  
"I'm good with 200,000 people dying," Frank told me flatly that day, insisting that a depression would bring more pain.

/When people tell you who they are, believe them.
 
2021-08-19 1:26:35 PM  
"Why would I get a vaccine for a cold that I'm 99.9% sure to survive?"

Why would I cook food when I could eat it raw?

Why would I fly to New York when I could walk there?

Why would I use technology to avoid a problem?
 
2021-08-19 1:27:41 PM  
Seems the author has a filth fetish.  Pass.
 
2021-08-19 1:27:47 PM  

LL316: Over drinks one evening, I asked a bartender for a drink without a straw, explaining I was concerned about disposable plastic. "I love plastic," Frank responded with a mischievous smile.


For what possible reason would an adult need or want a straw?


You use them to drink with.
 
2021-08-19 1:28:03 PM  
What Frank learned from you: Nothing.
 
2021-08-19 1:29:13 PM  
I didn't see where he asked the anti-masker if he worshipped Nurgle or Khorne....
 
2021-08-19 1:29:30 PM  

log_jammin: I've said from the start that these people are scared. And they way they cope with the fear is to pretend everything is fine and everyone else is overreacting.


This. Most of their pronouncements reek of insecurity and terror. When one of them says, "I'm not terrified like you liberals are," I laugh. There's a few who do it here on Fark and it's farking hilarious.

There's really no better way to say you're terrified than to say, "I'm not scared, these other people are the cowards."
 
2021-08-19 1:30:00 PM  
Jane Goodall studied chimps! Christ Fark, you disappoint me!
 
2021-08-19 1:30:14 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: LL316: Over drinks one evening, I asked a bartender for a drink without a straw, explaining I was concerned about disposable plastic. "I love plastic," Frank responded with a mischievous smile.


For what possible reason would an adult need or want a straw?

You use them to drink with.


Did you know it's just as easy to drink without them?  I just blew your mind, didn't I?
 
2021-08-19 1:30:21 PM  
I feel a little bad that I expected the story to end with Frank dead from COVID.
 
2021-08-19 1:30:31 PM  
Why would I want to know what makes horrible people tick? Fark them all with a rusty pile driver.
 
2021-08-19 1:30:34 PM  

gameshowhost: Jane Goodall was incredibly careful around gorillas, which is why she wasn't torn limb from limb.

Whereas antimaskxxers are the equivalent of running into a group of gorillas, screaming and baring your fangs, all while you're covered in blueberries.


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2021-08-19 1:30:53 PM  
"I'm good with dividing the country," Frank declares. "One side gets the west and one side gets the east. We are self-sufficient. Your side is not."

Ha ha, no.
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2021-08-19 1:31:07 PM  

LL316: Over drinks one evening, I asked a bartender for a drink without a straw, explaining I was concerned about disposable plastic. "I love plastic," Frank responded with a mischievous smile.


For what possible reason would an adult need or want a straw?


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2021-08-19 1:31:08 PM  

UberDave: It's interesting how they (and there are many like this I know) *always* believe that anyone wearing a mask is "scared".  They can't reconcile that people are doing it to protect the community and/or other people.  Right-wing media told them masks were a liberal thing, the virus is way less of a big deal than it's being made out to be so anyone wearing a mask is either being forced or is a "liberal" - and "liberals" are worse people than them so there's *no* way they could be wearing masks to help others.  It's out of fear or to make a statement.

/morons


It's projection. Whenever you hear someone screaming about how you are living in fear, they are pants-sh*tting terrified of everything.
Kinda like if you hear someone say they are a "good Christian" you stay away from them, because there's a really good chance they are morally the most farked person you will ever meet.
 
2021-08-19 1:31:19 PM  

iheartscotch: I didn't see where he asked the anti-masker if he worshipped Nurgle or Khorne....


Worshippers of Nurgle would would least be compassionate in their acts.

Worshippers of Khorne would at least be honorable in their acts.

These are Imperials, through and through.
 
2021-08-19 1:31:27 PM  
Frank seems familiar to me:

This has become, for us, a familiar impasse. He tends to distinguish between those worthy and unworthy of concern.

I've met a thousand guys like this tool. They think they did it all themselves, that nobody ever helped them, certainly not that ebil big gubbermint. Yet the people keeping things safe for morons like him to greedily take, take, and take more, he derides. them all. He's also harping on helping those he considers unworthy. All of it based on political ideology, mind you. He won't care that a farmer sucks more money from that ebil big gubbermint teat than dozens of other people. That we spend tons of money propping up failing businesses, ones that were failing before the pandemic, because those poor farmers have it so rough.

People like Frank go go f**k off. After f**king off, they can continue to f**k off until they realize that they don't get to decide who is "worthy" because otherwise I'm coming next, and I'll guess I personally put more money into the tax coffers in a year than he has in ten. He doesn't want me deciding who gets access to my tax money, because it sure as shiat isn't going to be the lazy rural people.
 
2021-08-19 1:32:13 PM  
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2021-08-19 1:32:34 PM  

feltrider: I feel a little bad that I expected the story to end with Frank dead from COVID.


Well, hoped, anyway.
 
2021-08-19 1:33:18 PM  
I hope Frank stays well.

Protip:  Frank would murder you if he had the chance to get away with it.
 
2021-08-19 1:33:30 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: log_jammin: I've said from the start that these people are scared. And they way they cope with the fear is to pretend everything is fine and everyone else is overreacting.

This. Most of their pronouncements reek of insecurity and terror. When one of them says, "I'm not terrified like you liberals are," I laugh. There's a few who do it here on Fark and it's farking hilarious.

There's really no better way to say you're terrified than to say, "I'm not scared, these other people are the cowards."


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2021-08-19 1:33:51 PM  
Frank sounds like an asshole.
 
2021-08-19 1:35:09 PM  

Weird Hal: Seems the author has a filth fetish.  Pass.


More like they're fascinated by their own insights
 
2021-08-19 1:35:17 PM  
Subby, maybe it's time to come down from your tree and learn the difference between gorillas and chimpanzees.
 
2021-08-19 1:35:19 PM  

LL316: Over drinks one evening, I asked a bartender for a drink without a straw, explaining I was concerned about disposable plastic. "I love plastic," Frank responded with a mischievous smile.


For what possible reason would an adult need or want a straw?


Cocaine?
 
2021-08-19 1:35:49 PM  

LL316: Over drinks one evening, I asked a bartender for a drink without a straw, explaining I was concerned about disposable plastic. "I love plastic," Frank responded with a mischievous smile.


For what possible reason would an adult need or want a straw?


You get one at a bar so you can stir the gin and tonic that the bartender slapped together.
 
2021-08-19 1:36:09 PM  

Rapmaster2000: "I'm good with dividing the country," Frank declares. "One side gets the west and one side gets the east. We are self-sufficient. Your side is not."

Ha ha, no.
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When they say "self sufficent", they mean they got a buddy that grows some carrots in his backyard and they can maybe farm if needed.

They have no idea what "self sufficient" actually is beyond their prepper idiot magazine fantasies.
 
2021-08-19 1:36:23 PM  
So what is Frank's fark handle?
 
2021-08-19 1:36:33 PM  
His friend Frank sounds like a complete asshole.
 
2021-08-19 1:36:33 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: https://forsetti.tumblr.com/post/1531​8​1757500/on-rural-america-understanding​-isnt-the-problem


That never gets old. Always worth a re-read.
 
2021-08-19 1:37:16 PM  

SpectroBoy: tl;dr  The freedumb morans are every bit as stupid as you think they are


This. If you're like me, and have the privilege of looking like a bog standard white dude, you can get these people to reveal some pretty putrid things about their personalities and worldview. Just don't push back on anything long enough to make them think you're of a like mind.

They really really are that shallow.
 
2021-08-19 1:37:18 PM  

Rapmaster2000: "I'm good with dividing the country," Frank declares. "One side gets the west and one side gets the east. We are self-sufficient. Your side is not."

Ha ha, no.
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Yeah, I read that and was like "what the fark?" Why do Conservatives get to claim California? Fark that. You people get Jesusland, and there's no way that place is self-sufficient.

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2021-08-19 1:37:39 PM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Frank sounds like a bit of a coont.

Oh, a libertarian, that explains it


Every libertarian I know votes republican.
 
2021-08-19 1:37:49 PM  

HerptheDerp: The gorillas were probably more intelligent and less violent.


Literally quite possible in terms of the violence.  Gorillas are typically only physically aggresive when they or their family group are threarened.
 
2021-08-19 1:37:53 PM  

Rapmaster2000: "I'm good with dividing the country," Frank declares. "One side gets the west and one side gets the east. We are self-sufficient. Your side is not."

Ha ha, no.
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That's pretty farking funny that they think that. "I know how to fish and hunt so we'd be totally fine." said the dumbest people on the planet.
 
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