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2021-08-17 10:07:30 AM  
This time, the Taliban is promising to form an "Afghan inclusive Islamic government," although it's not clear what form that will take and if the new leadership will include women.

No.

Never.

You're dead to them.

Women don't matter.

The world has failed you. Again.
 
2021-08-17 12:58:41 PM  

Cafe Threads: This time, the Taliban is promising to form an "Afghan inclusive Islamic government," although it's not clear what form that will take and if the new leadership will include women.

No.

Never.

You're dead to them.

Women don't matter.

The world has failed you. Again.


Man.  I have so much to say about this, but it'll be the Unpopular Opinion of the Day if I say it.

I'm not disagreeing with your post, btw.  But at the same time, I understand when a lot of Farkers say the US can't be the world's policeman, especially considering how often we've f*cked it up lately.  I know Afghanistan hasn't been all rainbows and unicorn farts, but it's about to get 100x more shiatty, especially for women.

If only more of the world's nations would've stepped up, I suppose, instead of just the US and a few allies.

The whole situation makes me angry and sick.
 
2021-08-17 1:03:40 PM  

xanadian: Cafe Threads: This time, the Taliban is promising to form an "Afghan inclusive Islamic government," although it's not clear what form that will take and if the new leadership will include women.

No.

Never.

You're dead to them.

Women don't matter.

The world has failed you. Again.

Man.  I have so much to say about this, but it'll be the Unpopular Opinion of the Day if I say it.

I'm not disagreeing with your post, btw.  But at the same time, I understand when a lot of Farkers say the US can't be the world's policeman, especially considering how often we've f*cked it up lately.  I know Afghanistan hasn't been all rainbows and unicorn farts, but it's about to get 100x more shiatty, especially for women.

If only more of the world's nations would've stepped up, I suppose, instead of just the US and a few allies.

The whole situation makes me angry and sick.


Agreed.
 
2021-08-17 1:53:19 PM  
The Taliban knocked on her door 3 times. The fourth time, they killed her

Doesn't that mean they knocked 4 times then?
Thought of this:
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2021-08-17 2:36:10 PM  
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We never stood a chance.
 
2021-08-17 3:01:06 PM  

aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.


True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?
 
2021-08-17 3:24:18 PM  
The western world : we totally value human rights!

Also the western world : what China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran and North Korea do is alright with us!
 
2021-08-17 3:24:30 PM  
I'm really starting to think somebody should invade that country, occupy it, put in a puppet government, and show their people how great western society really is.
 
2021-08-17 3:24:30 PM  
Next time the US goes into a country to build a nation, just skip to the end.  Sweep the country and evacuate all the women.  Then leave the county.  Womanitarian crisis problem solved.
 
2021-08-17 3:25:26 PM  
Look no farther than The Handmaid's Tale for what the Yee-Hawdists would like to do here as well, lest you think Afghanistan is special or unique.
 
2021-08-17 3:27:57 PM  
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2021-08-17 3:28:37 PM  
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♩♪♫ ♩♪♫
I'll knock three times on the door if I want you want to feed me
Hit you twice with a pipe if your answer is no
♩♪♫ ♩♪♫
 
2021-08-17 3:30:02 PM  
I'm looking forward to an SNL sketch about this new and improved, kinder gentler Taliban.
 
2021-08-17 3:30:39 PM  
Pretty crappy s*** 😕

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2021-08-17 3:32:33 PM  
Remember that old SNL landshark candygram skit? Well, this is sorta like that. Except, you know, awful

Soooo... exactly like that old SNL landshark candygram skit.

/I keed, I keed
 
2021-08-17 3:34:04 PM  

xanadian: The whole situation makes me angry and sick.


I propose we use this phrase to replace "e pluribus Unum" as our national motto.
 
2021-08-17 3:36:07 PM  

mrshowrules: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?


So, you're saying religion is the only way to conquer Afghanistan? Maybe the zealots are right. We failed because we weren't Christian enough! Maybe Joel Osteen and Pat Robertson can try next.
 
2021-08-17 3:36:26 PM  

mrshowrules: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?


This "doomed from the start" graveyard of empires bullshiat is absolute nonsense. Believe it or not, there's not actually some magic mummy's curse on the country or the angry ghost of some omnipotent boogeyman that makes it impossible to succeed there. We failed because for 20 years our strategy was consistently bullshiat. We half-assed it the whole time, as if it would eventually just fix itself if we stayed there long enough.
 
2021-08-17 3:36:34 PM  

lolmao500: The western world : we totally value human rights!

Also the western world : what China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran and North Korea do is alright with us!


In what way are we saying it is "alright with us"?
What would we do if it wasn't alright?
 
2021-08-17 3:36:51 PM  

Cafe Threads: This time, the Taliban is promising to form an "Afghan inclusive Islamic government," although it's not clear what form that will take and if the new leadership will include women.

No.

Never.

You're dead to them.

Women don't matter.

The world has failed you. Again.


- signed,
The GOP in America
 
2021-08-17 3:37:50 PM  

Rucker10: I'm really starting to think somebody should invade that country, occupy it, put in a puppet government, and show their people how great western society really is.


Considering Kabul's population skyrocketed in the past 20 years, seems like a lot of Afghanis saw how great western society is.

But evil men with guns matter more than allowing women to be humans.
 
2021-08-17 3:39:30 PM  

chewd: xanadian: The whole situation makes me angry and sick.

I propose we use this phrase to replace "e pluribus Unum" as our national motto.


You know that was changed in '56 to "In God we Trust," stigginit to the Reds.
 
2021-08-17 3:41:13 PM  

Chemlight Battery: mrshowrules: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?

This "doomed from the start" graveyard of empires bullshiat is absolute nonsense. Believe it or not, there's not actually some magic mummy's curse on the country or the angry ghost of some omnipotent boogeyman that makes it impossible to succeed there. We failed because for 20 years our strategy was consistently bullshiat. We half-assed it the whole time, as if it would eventually just fix itself if we stayed there long enough.


Maybe we failed because the majority of the folks in that country want to live that way. That would explain why the military and the general population all capitulated so quickly.
 
2021-08-17 3:41:22 PM  

fsbilly: chewd: xanadian: The whole situation makes me angry and sick.

I propose we use this phrase to replace "e pluribus Unum" as our national motto.


You know that was changed in '56 to "In God we Trust," stigginit to the Reds.


Of course... a country this callous and wretched could only be down to religious bigotry.
 
2021-08-17 3:41:31 PM  
And trump supporters cheered.
 
2021-08-17 3:43:10 PM  

Rucker10: Chemlight Battery: mrshowrules: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?

This "doomed from the start" graveyard of empires bullshiat is absolute nonsense. Believe it or not, there's not actually some magic mummy's curse on the country or the angry ghost of some omnipotent boogeyman that makes it impossible to succeed there. We failed because for 20 years our strategy was consistently bullshiat. We half-assed it the whole time, as if it would eventually just fix itself if we stayed there long enough.

Maybe we failed because the majority of the folks in that country want to live that way. That would explain why the military and the general population all capitulated so quickly.


I'm not so sure all the women are in a celebratory mood.
 
2021-08-17 3:45:24 PM  
Should have just built fast food restaurants, quicki marts, and pumped in netflix and hulu. Make everyone too fat and lazy to take up arms.
 
2021-08-17 3:46:08 PM  

LL316: Rucker10: I'm really starting to think somebody should invade that country, occupy it, put in a puppet government, and show their people how great western society really is.

Considering Kabul's population skyrocketed in the past 20 years, seems like a lot of Afghanis saw how great western society is.

But evil men with guns matter more than allowing women to be humans.


Well, go with the evil you know I guess. If we were really the good guys we would have stayed and protected them.

We're not the good guys, and we never have been.
 
2021-08-17 3:48:34 PM  

chewd: xanadian: The whole situation makes me angry and sick.

I propose we use this phrase to replace "e pluribus Unum" as our national motto.


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2021-08-17 3:51:36 PM  

HerptheDerp: Look no farther than The Handmaid's Tale for what the Yee-Hawdists would like to do here as well, lest you think Afghanistan is special or unique.


I don't know. the 'yee-hawdists' seem pretty opposed to any Muslim influence
 
2021-08-17 3:54:34 PM  

LL316: Rucker10: I'm really starting to think somebody should invade that country, occupy it, put in a puppet government, and show their people how great western society really is.

Considering Kabul's population skyrocketed in the past 20 years, seems like a lot of Afghanis saw how great western society is.

But evil men with guns matter more than allowing women to be humans.


Just because the women want it, and maybe even some men are okay with it, that doesn't mean that it's going to happen unless everyone in that society says "We all want it and want to keep it." Clearly they do not.

For all that everyone is horrified and rightly sickened by what is happening, notice that within a day of the Taliban taking over, pictures of women are being removed from windows, women are leaving their jobs even in universities and government, and women are obediently staying home because they don't even have as much as a bedsheet to use as a burqa.

Because they know that the MAJORITY of men around them will either enforce the Taliban's rules--which are not Islamic laws, but are entirely a madeup mish-mash of the most restrictive shari'a law and old Pashtun tribal law--or stand by and watch while some thug with a gun enforces them.

Women are accustomed to having no agency in Afghanistan, men are accustomed to standing by while the leaders tell them what to do, and the thugs are used to running roughshod over everyone else because the rulers let them. You can't start at the top with a very advanced social construct like women's rights, it has to have a very strong foundation of civil rights for everyone and a robust legal system, both of which are sorely lacking in Afghanistan.

It would be great if women had rights; but since nobody has rights except people with guns, that isn't going to happen.
 
2021-08-17 3:56:52 PM  

aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.


And a lot of us knew that before 9/11 happened and were against the invasion
 
2021-08-17 3:59:20 PM  
A person is a lot freer to be a Muslim in Afghanistan than in the USA.
 
2021-08-17 3:59:24 PM  

Avigdore: HerptheDerp: Look no farther than The Handmaid's Tale for what the Yee-Hawdists would like to do here as well, lest you think Afghanistan is special or unique.

I don't know. the 'yee-hawdists' seem pretty opposed to any Muslim influence


That's what happens when your beliefs align in just about every way except which state religion you'd like to establish.
 
2021-08-17 4:01:57 PM  

Avigdore: HerptheDerp: Look no farther than The Handmaid's Tale for what the Yee-Hawdists would like to do here as well, lest you think Afghanistan is special or unique.

I don't know. the 'yee-hawdists' seem pretty opposed to any Muslim influence


But they use the same source material for their holy book so there's a lot of overlap.

Y'all Queda is basically the Taliban with bacon and dip.
 
2021-08-17 4:02:41 PM  
You know, reading that, I wonder how long until the Proud Boy incels start doing the same things.
 
2021-08-17 4:03:10 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Avigdore: HerptheDerp: Look no farther than The Handmaid's Tale for what the Yee-Hawdists would like to do here as well, lest you think Afghanistan is special or unique.

I don't know. the 'yee-hawdists' seem pretty opposed to any Muslim influence

But they use the same source material for their holy book so there's a lot of overlap.

Y'all Queda is basically the Taliban with bacon and dip.


And the former is now openly praising the latter for their takeover and violence.
 
2021-08-17 4:11:51 PM  
This video is somehow super cool and super freaky at the same time. :-)

Tony Orlando and Dawn - Knock Three Times
Youtube 4Y5RgWbxcBk
 
2021-08-17 4:12:15 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Avigdore: HerptheDerp: Look no farther than The Handmaid's Tale for what the Yee-Hawdists would like to do here as well, lest you think Afghanistan is special or unique.

I don't know. the 'yee-hawdists' seem pretty opposed to any Muslim influence

That's what happens when your beliefs align in just about every way except which state religion you'd like to establish.


OK, a fictional book aligns with the beliefs of the Muslims in Afghanistan...I can see your point, I guess
 
2021-08-17 4:16:42 PM  

Truffle Kerfuffle: And trump supporters cheered.


Hell, I've been told that the Taliban has hot and cold running amnesty and that they're all gonna close the evening with a rousing rendition of Kum ba yah.
 
2021-08-17 4:19:39 PM  

Chemlight Battery: mrshowrules: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?

This "doomed from the start" graveyard of empires bullshiat is absolute nonsense. Believe it or not, there's not actually some magic mummy's curse on the country or the angry ghost of some omnipotent boogeyman that makes it impossible to succeed there. We failed because for 20 years our strategy was consistently bullshiat. We half-assed it the whole time, as if it would eventually just fix itself if we stayed there long enough.


US spent $2T in Afghanistan and could not defeat 176,000 Taliban soldiers.  That is $11 million per Taliban soldier.

They could have opened a business where they paid every Taliban soldier to dig holes or learn a trade and get paid $100K a year and they could do that for 110 years.
 
2021-08-17 4:36:31 PM  
Oh, Subby. That headline. Not even remotely funny, what happened in that story.

I don't offend easily, but that was incredibly bad taste.

I know, I know. Welcome to Fark, etc.
 
2021-08-17 4:37:07 PM  

aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.


The Mongols conquered Afghanistan, sort of.
 
2021-08-17 4:40:31 PM  

Chemlight Battery: mrshowrules: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?

This "doomed from the start" graveyard of empires bullshiat is absolute nonsense. Believe it or not, there's not actually some magic mummy's curse on the country or the angry ghost of some omnipotent boogeyman that makes it impossible to succeed there. We failed because for 20 years our strategy was consistently bullshiat. We half-assed it the whole time, as if it would eventually just fix itself if we stayed there long enough.


Also, the terrain makes it easier to defend and harder to invade. Afghanistan is a hard nut to crack, and has almost no infrastructure, which means defending from insurgency is also harder than normal, as you can't move troops and equipment around as easily as guerrillas can.
 
2021-08-17 4:42:52 PM  
They failed because they did not solely train women as fighters for the army from 2002 onward.
If women has firearms and hand to hand training, and NOT trained the dudes, would have been a slam dunk.

instead, puppet male leader, 300,000 make believe male army forces,

and trillions of $.
 
2021-08-17 4:49:25 PM  

mrshowrules: Chemlight Battery: mrshowrules: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

True but hasn't Islamic Sunni forces successfully won the country and are successful where all other countries have failed?

This "doomed from the start" graveyard of empires bullshiat is absolute nonsense. Believe it or not, there's not actually some magic mummy's curse on the country or the angry ghost of some omnipotent boogeyman that makes it impossible to succeed there. We failed because for 20 years our strategy was consistently bullshiat. We half-assed it the whole time, as if it would eventually just fix itself if we stayed there long enough.

US spent $2T in Afghanistan and could not defeat 176,000 Taliban soldiers.  That is $11 million per Taliban soldier.

They could have opened a business where they paid every Taliban soldier to dig holes or learn a trade and get paid $100K a year and they could do that for 110 years.


Can we then posit that the military industrial complex had ulterior motives?
 
2021-08-17 5:02:26 PM  

lolmao500: The western world : we totally value human rights!

Also the western world : what China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran and North Korea do is alright with us!


Human rights don't matter when oil and trade are on the line.
 
2021-08-17 5:03:59 PM  
Any conservative, especially any conservative woman, who tries to talk about this needs to be punched in the face forthwith.
 
2021-08-17 5:14:19 PM  
Send the SJW Danger Hairs to Kabul so they can protest.

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2021-08-17 5:16:14 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: aleister_greynight: [image.politicalcartoons.com image 600x464]
We never stood a chance.

The Mongols conquered Afghanistan, sort of.


To paraphrase Calgacus, he made a desert and called it a peace.
 
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