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2587 clicks; posted to Politics » on 09 Aug 2021 at 7:34 PM (15 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-08-09 3:42:57 PM  
These people don't even believe in doctors anymore. They need something to die for so they've forsaken their faith for an idol.
 
2021-08-09 5:01:50 PM  
Religion has played that role for thousands of years, subby...
 
2021-08-09 7:37:00 PM  
We have very imperfect brains.
That's why science exists: to get over our imperfect brains.
 
2021-08-09 7:43:23 PM  
"Once corporations realized they could make money off the news -- rather than just viewing it as a public service -- they started 'making that a joke, too.' As he notes, the move made it so 'they could still put on what's called a news show, but it's mostly just fluff and trivia and 23-year-olds spewing out talking points that they read on a teleprompter, having no idea what the fark they're talking about, fortunately for them.'

That kind of mindless newsreading has real consequences, too. As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all.'

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.' In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives.

Additionally, Common Cause's Todd O'Boyle told The A.V. Club that 'election season is a gravy train for broadcasters,' as well, meaning that most local stations 'book record revenues for political ads.' According to O'Boyle, 'in many communities, voters are seeing more election content in the form of advertising than they are in the form of news reporting,' saying there have even been instances of local newscasts cutting their broadcasts short in order to air more political ads. With politics becoming increasingly polarized over the past 20-odd years, absence of objective local news doesn't help ease that struggle, nor does it make most people think that there's anything to be done anywhere close to home.

While some people -- especially younger people -- might say, 'who cares? I get my news from social media anyway,' O'Boyle points out that, 'the majority of news coverage, and particularly local news coverage, still comes from local newsrooms.' In other words, just because you saw some article about a police scandal on social media doesn't mean it wasn't uncovered by some intrepid reporter first. Additionally, says O'Boyle, 'a healthy news ecosystem' is essential if you want 'to cut through some of the viral nonsense that's getting passed around' these days."

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2021-08-09 7:45:16 PM  
They believe it because they're farking idiots
 
2021-08-09 7:46:43 PM  
Because it's easier to believe a comforting lie than a hard truth
 
2021-08-09 7:52:02 PM  
The frogs peep, birds sing, crickets chirp and conservatives parrot talking points. Mating calls. Untested, no CDC approval.
 
2021-08-09 7:53:55 PM  
Now the Pol Tab makes perfect sense!
 
2021-08-09 7:53:59 PM  
Verifiable truth is a verifiable truth -- a verifiable falsehood is a verifiable falsehood

I don't care what the "tribal" reasoning is -- peddling the later en masse to accomplish political goals is unacceptable and anti-social.
 
2021-08-09 7:57:00 PM  

edmo: These people don't even believe in doctors anymore. They need something to die for so they've forsaken their faith for an idol.


I read that as "so they've forsaken their faith for an idiot"

meh, still works
 
2021-08-09 7:57:22 PM  

iheartscotch: Because it's easier to believe a comforting lie than a hard truth


fake noose, you say?
 
2021-08-09 7:58:40 PM  
Good article, thanks subby
 
2021-08-09 8:02:56 PM  
I believe you mean DEVOLUTION

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2021-08-09 8:10:48 PM  
Evolutionary psychology is dumb and has shiatty reasoning, and this crap is another example.
 
2021-08-09 8:12:26 PM  

rue_in_winter: Evolutionary psychology is dumb and has shiatty reasoning, and this crap is another example.


It has reasoning?
 
2021-08-09 8:15:09 PM  

iheartscotch: Because it's easier to believe a comforting lie than a hard truth


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2021-08-09 8:16:34 PM  
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2021-08-09 8:18:33 PM  
Ive said this before, but:

I don't believe these assholes truly believe the bullshiat they repeat. They repeat it because it serves a useful purpose to them, but they're aware it's a lie. They just don't care because they don't see a moral distinction between truth vs lies as long as any given statement is useful to them in the moment.

You see this reflected in two distinct ways:

1. When they argue they and have facts on their side they'll use them. Enthusiastically. They'll reliably cite actual studies - endlessly. Gun control is a fairly good example of this. OTOH challenge them when their  position is founded on a mountain of bullshiat and they might slam a few shiat tier blogs, but will more likely just ad hom and whatabout. They know they're lying.

2: When they campaign you see the same people pushing two mutually exclusive arguments - eg Kamala Harris is an overzealous prosecutor but at the same time she's going to let antifa turn America into a lawless hellhole where cops can't do their jobs. They just pull whichever position best suits their audience out of its box, and then put it away when the opposite position becomes useful instead.
 
2021-08-09 8:19:17 PM  
Seems like a pretty intelligently-written article, but I honestly don't care if MAGAts rely on their God Emperor's lies as a coping mechanism or "evolutionary strategy" or what. I really only care what the President I voted for plans on doing about it, because they're not going to stop.
 
2021-08-09 8:20:46 PM  

Wireless Joe: I believe you mean DEVOLUTION

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2021-08-09 8:25:48 PM  
Natural Selection?
 
2021-08-09 8:28:29 PM  
Exactly the opposite from TFA.

Humans can imagine scenarios that don't yet exist. That cognitive displacement allows humans to make future plans and prepare for them. If those plans are communicated to another human they can work together.

That's evolutionary fitness.

Of course humans can also use cognitive displacement to lie. If you can imagine a situation that doesn't exist that creates opportunities for falsehoods. Communicating that to other humans allows you to fool them.

There might be minor benefits to lying, just like your legs can be used for taekwando. That doesn't mean the major purpose or major benefit of the human mind is for lies and conflict just like the major purpose for your legs isn't to kick ass.
 
2021-08-09 8:29:51 PM  
The GOP has basically created a super-malleable white supremacist in-group that 

redmid17: They believe it because they're farking idiots


The point isn't that they are idiots -- although that's parcel -- the point is rather that believing and disseminating falsehood is a display of dominance. There's something monkey-brained about following leaders who shiat all over the truth while gearing up for war against other tribal groups. You get to belong and hoot and holler and throw feces with the in-group. This is extremely delightful for the massive amounts of white supremacists in the United States -- millions of them, and not many of them actually are Nazis or KKK. They're just 'normal' assholes who want to be part of the dominant group. The GOP has organized them (intentionally or not) into a remarkably unified vat of slop that will do whatever they want (more or less).

It's entirely about dominance.
 
2021-08-09 8:35:50 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The GOP has basically created a super-malleable white supremacist in-group that redmid17: They believe it because they're farking idiots

The point isn't that they are idiots -- although that's parcel -- the point is rather that believing and disseminating falsehood is a display of dominance. There's something monkey-brained about following leaders who shiat all over the truth while gearing up for war against other tribal groups. You get to belong and hoot and holler and throw feces with the in-group. This is extremely delightful for the massive amounts of white supremacists in the United States -- millions of them, and not many of them actually are Nazis or KKK. They're just 'normal' assholes who want to be part of the dominant group. The GOP has organized them (intentionally or not) into a remarkably unified vat of slop that will do whatever they want (more or less).

It's entirely about dominance.


Right and they follow that plan because they think they can reverse the situation and changing demographics, which they obviously cannot. Hence one of two reasons why they are idiots. The other being they believe this shiat.
 
2021-08-09 8:42:49 PM  

rue_in_winter: Evolutionary psychology is dumb and has shiatty reasoning, and this crap is another example.


Does anyone actually take evolutionary psychology seriously? I thought it was a weird fringe thing.
 
2021-08-09 8:46:17 PM  

RasIanI: Verifiable truth is a verifiable truth -- a verifiable falsehood is a verifiable falsehood

I don't care what the "tribal" reasoning is -- peddling the later en masse to accomplish political goals is unacceptable and anti-social.


What you're overlooking is that the peddlers in this scenario don't give a dead rat's rancid ass about their impact on society, they want to make the puppets dance.
 
2021-08-09 8:51:29 PM  
Is it something like this...?

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/DNRTFA
 
2021-08-09 8:51:33 PM  
My side gig is a homegrown, independent news website (not linking lest I be accused of [further] blatant self-promotion, also not sure of the Fark rules regarding such things) where I've had occasion to call people on their bullshiat.

My favorite was a guy who ran for mayor claiming the incumbent nefariously lowered his own taxes. Turns out a.) the sitting mayor was actually paying more taxes than he did the prior year and b.) the challenger had lost his residence due to tax sale and was still squatting there.

The challenger's only defense was "your website is fake news."

Instead of being intimidated into watering down the story, I interpreted that as a complete admission that my coverage was true and published it.

He lost in a landslide.
 
2021-08-09 9:04:08 PM  

austerity101: rue_in_winter: Evolutionary psychology is dumb and has shiatty reasoning, and this crap is another example.

Does anyone actually take evolutionary psychology seriously? I thought it was a weird fringe thing.


Had a professor in college that was enamored with it. It just tends to argue from the standpoint that we have vestigial thoughts and behaviors from our time as hunter gathers that haven't quite been selected out. Besides, It's not like we're talking about psycho analysis.
 
2021-08-09 10:01:01 PM  

beezeltown: Religion has played that role for thousands of years, subby...


As TFA noted, specifically
 
2021-08-09 10:20:29 PM  
the virus only needs a few more evolution points before it can upgrade to be more lethal
 
2021-08-09 10:32:56 PM  
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2021-08-09 10:33:47 PM  
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2021-08-09 10:36:36 PM  

deeproy: Is it something like this...?

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2021-08-09 10:49:16 PM  
This is a great Farticle. I wonder if they considered the research around 'social capital'-or the idea that belonging to a group confers certain privileges. Religion is the biggest builder of social capital. Most of the research took place before social media and rests on the notion that you have to physically be part of a group where you meet face to face and shiat. But now everything's farked because social media and reality really is what you can get away with.

I know what's up, though. There is no chair.
 
2021-08-10 1:31:59 AM  

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2021-08-10 6:24:56 AM  

GodComplex: austerity101: rue_in_winter: Evolutionary psychology is dumb and has shiatty reasoning, and this crap is another example.

Does anyone actually take evolutionary psychology seriously? I thought it was a weird fringe thing.

Had a professor in college that was enamored with it. It just tends to argue from the standpoint that we have vestigial thoughts and behaviors from our time as hunter gathers that haven't quite been selected out. Besides, It's not like we're talking about psycho analysis.


Ahh, the better grade of evo psych. A lot of the trash I encountered is basically trying to justify ideas and prejudices based around the assumption that some insane Leave It To Beaver idea of human society was 'natural', failing entirely to consider anthropological studies, neurology, or history. History being my subject, and anthropology and neurology both interests of mine, that's super aggravating to me.

Like, I'm talking stuff that only makes sense if you presume organized agriculture is way, way older than it is, that human beings aren't generalists, and that culture is a product of biology only.

Reminds me of what my friend, a chemist, says about the goddamn physicists he has to work with. You know, insisting they know his subject better than he does because physics is 'more fundamental', but scared shiatless of working with citric acid and knowing none of the safety protocols for doing anything.
 
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