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2021-08-07 1:49:10 PM  
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2021-08-07 6:56:00 PM  
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Well, that strategy certainly played well in Germany back in the day.
 
2021-08-07 7:44:22 PM  
Every time an anti vax covid spreading terrorist anti masker dies of covid, the angels laugh and dance. So there's that.
 
2021-08-07 7:46:49 PM  
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
 
2021-08-07 7:48:27 PM  
That's just populism
 
2021-08-07 7:50:59 PM  
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2021-08-07 7:53:33 PM  
Their main political motivation is to punish others.

You can recognize them in a crisis.  They are the ones trying to prevent help.
 
2021-08-07 7:53:46 PM  
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2021-08-07 7:54:15 PM  

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Also: "Masks are mean and give my face owies."
 
2021-08-07 7:55:39 PM  
This already happened when Marco Rubio illegally blocked payments to insurance companies, forcing them to withdraw from the ACA market, causing a rise in prices.

Years later, the courts finally said, "yes, that's illegal." So the govt is on the hook for all the back payments ,after driving the costs up. No money was saved. Many people were hurt.

The criminal human shiat known as conservative Christians scream with joy as they cause endless damage to America.
 
2021-08-07 7:56:26 PM  

FleshMonkey: Their main political motivation is to punish others.

You can recognize them in a crisis.  They are the ones trying to prevent help.


How many of them also curse out disaster movie people for ignoring the experts?  They cannot fathom that they are those same hindrances but in real life.

And the second THEY get impacted, they will cry and moan as to why no one warned them.
 
2021-08-07 7:57:05 PM  

Meatsim1: That's just populism


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"I welcome anyone who wants to join the fight against conservatism, a movement that will celebrate the 40th anniversary of Ronald Reagan's presidential triumph this November. But whenever we hear our designated authorities and opinion leaders use 'populism' as a synonym for everything that is wrong with that movement, we should remember that the word was originally invented to designate precisely the opposite sensibility.

Unlike other political terms, we know almost exactly where, when, and why the word "populism" came to be. It was coined in May 1891 by a group of Kansas politicos riding on a train between Kansas City and Topeka; a "populist" was to be a shorthand expression for supporters of a third-party movement then beginning to challenge the shibboleths of 19-century politics and economics.

The Populist party, as it came to be known, was part of a leftwing flowering then happening around the world, the rough American equivalent of the labor parties and social-democratic unions springing up in other lands. 'Populism', as its adherents saw it, was a fine and hopeful thing, a mass movement of farmers and industrial workers demanding action by the government to improve the economic situation of ordinary people and, while they were at it, a war on corruption as well. In an extremely unusual move for the time, the populists tried, in the movement's early days, to enlist black farmers alongside white ones in the south in their fight for economic reform. (It didn't end well.)"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentis​f​ree/2020/sep/12/we-need-to-reclaim-pop​ulism-from-the-right-it-has-a-long-pro​ud-leftwing-history
 
2021-08-07 7:59:40 PM  

gonegirl: This already happened when Marco Rubio illegally blocked payments to insurance companies, forcing them to withdraw from the ACA market, causing a rise in prices.

Years later, the courts finally said, "yes, that's illegal." So the govt is on the hook for all the back payments ,after driving the costs up. No money was saved. Many people were hurt.

The criminal human shiat known as conservative Christians scream with joy as they cause endless damage to America.


The party of "Pro-Life" and "Save the kids" also actively deny preventative actions against a virus where kids are the age group not capable of getting vaccinated yet.

Either a massive chunk of Middle America and "undecideds" are completely farking stupid or as farking evil as the GOP.
 
2021-08-07 8:01:25 PM  
Teri's one of the few bright spots on Twitter. A worthy follow.
 
2021-08-07 8:13:06 PM  

NeverDrunk23: ReaverZ: [Fark user image image 720x537]

Also: "Masks are mean and give my face owies."


that at least is true but still a stupid reason
 
2021-08-07 8:13:21 PM  
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2021-08-07 8:20:24 PM  
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2021-08-07 8:24:20 PM  

gadian: Original: Original Tweet:

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Well, that strategy certainly played well in Germany back in the day.


I'd say the early Soviets are a closer analogue.

Step 1: Enact policies for breakneck-speed industrialisation
Step 2: Cause widespread famine via 1)
Step 3: Use famine as excuse to liquidate "kulaks" and most of Ukraine, which could have presented a threat as the germ of a Ukrainian nationalist movement

Result: Industrialisation achieved at record speed, while simultaneously neutralising potential political enemies
 
2021-08-07 8:29:01 PM  
A large percentage of POC are still unvaccinated. Pretty sure that's the GQP's target.
 
2021-08-07 8:31:12 PM  
Gonna get some use outta that word.
 
2021-08-07 8:33:34 PM  

aagrajag: gadian: Original: Original Tweet:

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Well, that strategy certainly played well in Germany back in the day.

I'd say the early Soviets are a closer analogue.

Step 1: Enact policies for breakneck-speed industrialisation
Step 2: Cause widespread famine via 1)
Step 3: Use famine as excuse to liquidate "kulaks" and most of Ukraine, which could have presented a threat as the germ of a Ukrainian nationalist movement

Result: Industrialisation achieved at record speed, while simultaneously neutralising potential political enemies


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Bears repeating.

1984 was written about Orwell's experiences with both the Soviets and the fascists as he fought for the Spanish Republic during the Spanish Civil War. He was impressed at how the Soviets and fascists used the same propaganda, demagoguery, and terror against their foes AND allies who had fallen out of favor.

He came to the conclusion that totalitarianism was the danger, economics (communism) and identity (fascism) were just excuses for the totalitarianism.

He also recognized the solution.

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2021-08-07 8:38:28 PM  
4) When you get called out on #2, deny the problem and reframe it; i.e., sure kids are dying, but they're illegals.

They already are, and I'm not exaggerating, claiming this in the Fox comments.
 
2021-08-07 8:39:09 PM  
There's an awful lot of overlap between the skeleton of Snyder's sadopopulism and Gregory Stanton's Ten Stages of Genocide, particularly with regard to how the GQP acts towards (and treats) Democrats, Latinos and African-Americans:

I've checked off each of the stages of genocide that at credibly apply to US political culture at present. Bold emphasis mine:

✔ 1. Classification: People are divided into "them and us".
2. Symbolization: When combined with hatred, symbols may be forced upon unwilling members of pariah groups.
✔ 3. Discrimination: Law or cultural power excludes groups from full civil rights: segregation or apartheid laws, denial of voting rights.
✔ 4. Dehumanization: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects, or diseases. (E.G. the Texas GOP blaming 'illegals' for spreading COVID-19)
✔ 5. Organization: Special army units or militias are often trained and armed. (ICE, Republican paramilitaries such as the Proud Boys)
✔ 6. Polarization: Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. (Fox News et el)
7. Preparation: Mass killing is planned. Victims are identified and separated because of their ethnic or religious identity.
✔ 8. Persecution: Expropriation, forced displacement, ghettos, concentration camps. (Asset forfeiture, migrant detention centers, defacto housing segregation)
9. Extermination: It is 'extermination' to the killers because they do not believe their victims to be fully human.
✔ 10. Denial: The perpetrators deny that they committed any crimes.

This is why I am not being hyperbolic when I occasionally mention that the US could be the next Rwanda.
 
2021-08-07 9:09:26 PM  
enact policies that hurt your supporters. Identify an enemy. Blame the pain on the enemies.

That's just conservatism.
 
2021-08-07 9:12:21 PM  
When I have to decide who I will be voting for, I don't have any purity issues that a candidate must conform to. None of them will have the same opinions and policies that I have. Never let perfect be the enemy of good. That said, I have two qualities that I look for:
1) Are they stupid? i.e. Can they learn from the mistakes of themselves or others? Can they give a cogent explanation of their policies and positions? Are they capable of change when further information is given?
2) Are they corrupt? i.e. Are their policies and positions heartfelt, or transactional? Can they be bought or bribed? Do they want the job to serve the constituents, or themselves?
Otherwise, I don't care what political party they belong to. I don't care what color skin, hair, or eyes they have. I don't care what gender they are, or what gender they sleep with. I don't care if they are left or right handed. I don't care if they were born here, or just want to be here.
One of our current political parties seems to fail all of my litmus tests. I am open to them changing, but I don't hold out much hope for that. They have been far too successful just the way they are.
 
2021-08-07 9:39:34 PM  
There is only one destination for republicans at this point......

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2021-08-07 9:53:11 PM  
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COVID? What COVID? As you can see everyone is healthy, happy, maskless and enjoying a day at the beach where nothing bad can ever happen!
 
2021-08-07 9:56:03 PM  
It didn't work for Trump in 2020, but it sure worked for Trump in Texas and Florida in 2020
 
2021-08-07 9:59:37 PM  

Al Tsheimers: When I have to decide who I will be voting for, I don't have any purity issues that a candidate must conform to. None of them will have the same opinions and policies that I have. Never let perfect be the enemy of good. That said, I have two qualities that I look for:
1) Are they stupid? i.e. Can they learn from the mistakes of themselves or others? Can they give a cogent explanation of their policies and positions? Are they capable of change when further information is given?
2) Are they corrupt? i.e. Are their policies and positions heartfelt, or transactional? Can they be bought or bribed? Do they want the job to serve the constituents, or themselves?
Otherwise, I don't care what political party they belong to. I don't care what color skin, hair, or eyes they have. I don't care what gender they are, or what gender they sleep with. I don't care if they are left or right handed. I don't care if they were born here, or just want to be here.
One of our current political parties seems to fail all of my litmus tests. I am open to them changing, but I don't hold out much hope for that. They have been far too successful just the way they are.


This, but I'll add "Are they evil?" as another one. 'Cause some people, they might not be obviously CORRUPT, per se, or stupid, but they are clearly evil.
 
2021-08-07 9:59:55 PM  

Jiggatron69: There is only one destination for republicans at this point......

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Just a waypoint, actually.

The destination looks a little different.
 
2021-08-07 10:01:23 PM  
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2021-08-07 10:11:42 PM  
All of these laws stopping companies or organisations from enacting things like "no-mask, no-service" or "no-vaccine, no-entry" is to protect their voters from the social repercussions of their own pig-ignorance.

However, they're not going to protect them from the health implications of their pig-ignorance. Their pig-ignorant base will not only get sick and die in large numbers, but they'll spread the disease to people who would have been more cautious if they were allowed to.
 
2021-08-07 10:28:38 PM  

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Splitters
 
2021-08-07 10:30:42 PM  

IAmRight: Al Tsheimers: When I have to decide who I will be voting for, I don't have any purity issues that a candidate must conform to. None of them will have the same opinions and policies that I have. Never let perfect be the enemy of good. That said, I have two qualities that I look for:
1) Are they stupid? i.e. Can they learn from the mistakes of themselves or others? Can they give a cogent explanation of their policies and positions? Are they capable of change when further information is given?
2) Are they corrupt? i.e. Are their policies and positions heartfelt, or transactional? Can they be bought or bribed? Do they want the job to serve the constituents, or themselves?
Otherwise, I don't care what political party they belong to. I don't care what color skin, hair, or eyes they have. I don't care what gender they are, or what gender they sleep with. I don't care if they are left or right handed. I don't care if they were born here, or just want to be here.
One of our current political parties seems to fail all of my litmus tests. I am open to them changing, but I don't hold out much hope for that. They have been far too successful just the way they are.

This, but I'll add "Are they evil?" as another one. 'Cause some people, they might not be obviously CORRUPT, per se, or stupid, but they are clearly evil.


You aren't wrong, but in my mind that is covered under "are they there to serve themselves". Power and money aren't the only corrupting influences, but deep down, it covers most of their motivations.
 
2021-08-07 10:33:01 PM  
Who cares how many unvaccinated Texans and Floridians die? No great loss.
 
2021-08-07 10:47:56 PM  
Right now it's a race to see if melting Greenland will empty out Florida faster (than Covid), or maybe increase the divide between Texass and Mexico first.

/no expertise in waterology claimed
 
2021-08-07 11:34:12 PM  

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COVID? What COVID? As you can see everyone is healthy, happy, maskless and enjoying a day at the beach where nothing bad can ever happen!


We just bought that movie.

The chicken kids won't watch it though.

Well, a second time, I mean.
 
2021-08-07 11:49:17 PM  

NeverDrunk23: FleshMonkey: Their main political motivation is to punish others.

You can recognize them in a crisis.  They are the ones trying to prevent help.

How many of them also curse out disaster movie people for ignoring the experts?  They cannot fathom that they are those same hindrances but in real life.

And the second THEY get impacted, they will cry and moan as to why no one warned them.


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The realities of the pandemic has ruined movies.
Now I scream at movies:
No. We would not do that. Look at c19. We'd just get killed.
 
2021-08-08 12:42:52 AM  

ReaverZ: NeverDrunk23: ReaverZ: [Fark user image image 720x537]

Also: "Masks are mean and give my face owies."

that at least is true but still a stupid reason


If a mask is causing you pain it's because you aren't wearing it correctly.
 
2021-08-08 2:06:51 AM  

ReaverZ: [Fark user image image 720x537]


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2021-08-08 2:48:24 AM  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: Jiggatron69: There is only one destination for republicans at this point......

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Just a waypoint, actually.

The destination looks a little different.


Not nearly enough of 'em imo.
 
2021-08-08 6:19:43 AM  
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2021-08-08 6:28:14 AM  
What Klein wrote about in The Shock Doctrine, or Frank in The Wrecking Crew. This has been a core conservative strategy in pretty much all aspects of their governance for the last 30 years.
 
2021-08-08 6:28:23 AM  

Murkanen: ReaverZ: NeverDrunk23: ReaverZ: [Fark user image image 720x537]

Also: "Masks are mean and give my face owies."

that at least is true but still a stupid reason

If a mask is causing you pain it's because you aren't wearing it correctly.


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2021-08-08 8:48:43 AM  
Well, as long as the people who are supposed to get hurt are getting hurt...
 
2021-08-08 9:34:33 AM  

WalkingSedgwick: There's an awful lot of overlap between the skeleton of Snyder's sadopopulism and Gregory Stanton's Ten Stages of Genocide, particularly with regard to how the GQP acts towards (and treats) Democrats, Latinos and African-Americans:

I've checked off each of the stages of genocide that at credibly apply to US political culture at present. Bold emphasis mine:

✔ 1. Classification: People are divided into "them and us".
2. Symbolization: When combined with hatred, symbols may be forced upon unwilling members of pariah groups.
✔ 3. Discrimination: Law or cultural power excludes groups from full civil rights: segregation or apartheid laws, denial of voting rights.
✔ 4. Dehumanization: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects, or diseases. (E.G. the Texas GOP blaming 'illegals' for spreading COVID-19)
✔ 5. Organization: Special army units or militias are often trained and armed. (ICE, Republican paramilitaries such as the Proud Boys)
✔ 6. Polarization: Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. (Fox News et el)
7. Preparation: Mass killing is planned. Victims are identified and separated because of their ethnic or religious identity.
✔ 8. Persecution: Expropriation, forced displacement, ghettos, concentration camps. (Asset forfeiture, migrant detention centers, defacto housing segregation)
9. Extermination: It is 'extermination' to the killers because they do not believe their victims to be fully human.
✔ 10. Denial: The perpetrators deny that they committed any crimes.

This is why I am not being hyperbolic when I occasionally mention that the US could be the next Rwanda.


I just upgraded your farkie. Good post!
 
2021-08-08 9:35:26 AM  

Jake Havechek: Who cares how many unvaccinated Texans and Floridians die? No great loss.


One could argue it is a net positive easily.
 
2021-08-08 9:36:17 AM  

ReaverZ: Murkanen: ReaverZ: NeverDrunk23: ReaverZ: [Fark user image image 720x537]

Also: "Masks are mean and give my face owies."

that at least is true but still a stupid reason

If a mask is causing you pain it's because you aren't wearing it correctly.

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Ok, Boomer
 
2021-08-08 9:51:42 AM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: ReaverZ: Murkanen: ReaverZ: NeverDrunk23: ReaverZ: [Fark user image image 720x537]

Also: "Masks are mean and give my face owies."

that at least is true but still a stupid reason

If a mask is causing you pain it's because you aren't wearing it correctly.

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Ok, Boomer


ok dummy
 
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