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2021-08-06 5:37:51 PM  
A whole 10% difference in total calories and grams of carbohydrates.  Big whoop.  Learn portion control and eat some salad first.
 
2021-08-06 5:42:49 PM  
meh, if you're going to tryhard then really tryhard. "whole wheat" as trade-language is somewhat meaningless in the US. unless it says "100% whole wheat" then you're still getting "enriched" nonsense.

it's taken me many, many years, but I finally found a whole-wheat pasta I not only do not hate, but it's even tasty. not that I ever shill on foodtab (Narrator: the fark you don't.) - but Ronzoni's "healthy harvest" / "ancient grains" are both surprisingly-edible. sans-doute other brands now have similar, but we already found the one we like, and sticking to it.

wait, they used the word, "bonk"?!

ahhh, ok - 'From: Bicycling US' - ffs Subs, just use the actual attribution or are you askeert of bikes.
 
2021-08-06 5:47:19 PM  
[Build a killer midsection in the kitchen for powerful, effortless miles on the road with...

I'd really like to know what the fark that is supposed to mean?
I mean... do they even lift, bro?
 
2021-08-06 5:49:49 PM  

FrancoFile: A whole 10% difference in total calories and grams of carbohydrates.  Big whoop.  Learn portion control and eat some salad first.


So much this!
Try being hydrated before you eat, so thirst doesn't make you seem hungry. Eat slowly, with normal monkey sized portions. Chew your food, well... it's not supposed to come out in chunks you can identify.
FFS people, it really isn't difficult.
 
2021-08-06 5:52:22 PM  

tintar: Ronzoni's "healthy harvest" / "ancient grains" are both surprisingly-edible.


I have had that brand before (and I think the same specific type) and it tastes the least like ass out of many other brands. If you have a good/sufficient sauce, you probably won't know that you are eating taint at all, unless someone points it out to you. *shrug*
 
2021-08-06 5:52:38 PM  
Whole wheat pasta sucks! There are always veggie pastas if you feel like it. 5, 7, or 9 grain Italian breads are great for garlic bread, bruschetta, etc. Get your whole grains there. Leave the pasta alone.
 
2021-08-06 6:00:45 PM  

FrancoFile: portion control and eat some salad first.


Percise1: normal monkey sized portions.


I have to admit... so, some years back my GP/PCP sent me to a nutritionist (and this wasn't even a fatness thing, just purely to attempt tracking down some hormonal+neurological whatevers) - but holy-wow, this lady trotted out a tiny little plate with a tiny little plastic fake-rice and a tiny little plastic fake-vegetals and a tiny little plastic fake-overcooked-meats. none even 1/3 the size of each those things you might normally consume.

I guess those plastics all came free with her degree in nutricianal-science? and, I know, I get it, those were actual reasonable portions in terms of health. but yeah out in the actual world it's like, "ohai Olive Garden? you just served me enough food to feed an entire small village."
 
2021-08-06 6:04:25 PM  
Meh. I made brown rice spaghetti last weekend for a relative who's allergic to wheat protein. Had it with basil pesto, roasted balsamic chicken breast, and marinated mushrooms. The pasta functioned adequately as a transport mechanism for the actual flavorful stuff.

I certainly didn't spend the whole meal wishing I had "real" spaghetti instead.
 
2021-08-06 6:14:30 PM  

Percise1: tintar: Ronzoni's "healthy harvest" / "ancient grains" are both surprisingly-edible.

I have had that brand before (and I think the same specific type) and it tastes the least like ass out of many other brands. If you have a good/sufficient sauce, you probably won't know that you are eating taint at all, unless someone points it out to you. *shrug*


I actually find it pleasant enough, but yeah urite it still could well be the preparation. let us agree it is the least-ass of any wheat/veg pasta I've tried/inflicted upon myself for ~2decades.

I've used the penne for a gratin cheesy casserole bake and that thing went over gangbusters. but then what do you expect if'n you can whip together a half decent bechamel, lol.

can't find any photos of that one, but the time I used their rotini for a cold salad was also popular
(no that's a cauliflower-rice so I wasn't double-carbing lol)

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2021-08-06 6:22:41 PM  

tintar: FrancoFile: portion control and eat some salad first.

Percise1: normal monkey sized portions.

I have to admit... so, some years back my GP/PCP sent me to a nutritionist (and this wasn't even a fatness thing, just purely to attempt tracking down some hormonal+neurological whatevers) - but holy-wow, this lady trotted out a tiny little plate with a tiny little plastic fake-rice and a tiny little plastic fake-vegetals and a tiny little plastic fake-overcooked-meats. none even 1/3 the size of each those things you might normally consume.

I guess those plastics all came free with her degree in nutricianal-science? and, I know, I get it, those were actual reasonable portions in terms of health. but yeah out in the actual world it's like, "ohai Olive Garden? you just served me enough food to feed an entire small village."


It would not surprise me to learn that the average reader of 'Men's Health' is morbidly obese and drops cigarette ashes on the pages as he reads it on the toilet. But it's men's health. If it is a 5 mile jog to the gym and you only have 26 minutes, the plastic portion sizing seems absurd and unhealthy. I fit neither category although covid has made me closer to the former. A 2000 Cal a day diet only covers the beer.
 
2021-08-06 6:25:09 PM  

olrasputin: Meh. I made brown rice spaghetti last weekend for a relative who's allergic to wheat protein. Had it with basil pesto, roasted balsamic chicken breast, and marinated mushrooms. The pasta functioned adequately as a transport mechanism for the actual flavorful stuff.

I certainly didn't spend the whole meal wishing I had "real" spaghetti instead.


I occasionally get a mixed case of those Shirataki-brand glass-noodle-based "pasta"/"rice" - mainly 'cos the wife counts carbs, but you really have to put in some effort making it edible. also I irrationally find it more and more offensive how hipster-y they been re-branding the packaging lol.

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and when it's on sale, those crystal ones have a surprising amount of spice + dried-vegetals (seriously, the vegetable-puck puts even the best ramyuns to shame)

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2021-08-06 6:33:10 PM  

fasahd: A 2000 Cal a day diet only covers the beer.


I... no comment.
 
2021-08-06 6:34:07 PM  

fasahd: tintar: FrancoFile: portion control and eat some salad first.

Percise1: normal monkey sized portions.

I have to admit... so, some years back my GP/PCP sent me to a nutritionist (and this wasn't even a fatness thing, just purely to attempt tracking down some hormonal+neurological whatevers) - but holy-wow, this lady trotted out a tiny little plate with a tiny little plastic fake-rice and a tiny little plastic fake-vegetals and a tiny little plastic fake-overcooked-meats. none even 1/3 the size of each those things you might normally consume.

I guess those plastics all came free with her degree in nutricianal-science? and, I know, I get it, those were actual reasonable portions in terms of health. but yeah out in the actual world it's like, "ohai Olive Garden? you just served me enough food to feed an entire small village."

It would not surprise me to learn that the average reader of 'Men's Health' is morbidly obese and drops cigarette ashes on the pages as he reads it on the toilet. But it's men's health. If it is a 5 mile jog to the gym and you only have 26 minutes, the plastic portion sizing seems absurd and unhealthy. I fit neither category although covid has made me closer to the former. A 2000 Cal a day diet only covers the beer.


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No, the average reader of Men's Health is gay.
 
2021-08-06 6:45:44 PM  

tintar: I occasionally get a mixed case of those Shirataki-brand glass-noodle-based "pasta"/"rice" - mainly 'cos the wife counts carbs, but you really have to put in some effort making it edible. also I irrationally find it more and more offensive how hipster-y they been re-branding the packaging lol.

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and when it's on sale, those crystal ones have a surprising amount of spice + dried-vegetals (seriously, the vegetable-puck puts even the best ramyuns to shame)

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Oh god. That packaging makes me a little stabby too.

My non-wheat noodle collection is limited to this:

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2021-08-06 7:24:47 PM  

FrancoFile: fasahd: tintar: FrancoFile: portion control and eat some salad first.

Percise1: normal monkey sized portions.

I have to admit... so, some years back my GP/PCP sent me to a nutritionist (and this wasn't even a fatness thing, just purely to attempt tracking down some hormonal+neurological whatevers) - but holy-wow, this lady trotted out a tiny little plate with a tiny little plastic fake-rice and a tiny little plastic fake-vegetals and a tiny little plastic fake-overcooked-meats. none even 1/3 the size of each those things you might normally consume.

I guess those plastics all came free with her degree in nutricianal-science? and, I know, I get it, those were actual reasonable portions in terms of health. but yeah out in the actual world it's like, "ohai Olive Garden? you just served me enough food to feed an entire small village."

It would not surprise me to learn that the average reader of 'Men's Health' is morbidly obese and drops cigarette ashes on the pages as he reads it on the toilet. But it's men's health. If it is a 5 mile jog to the gym and you only have 26 minutes, the plastic portion sizing seems absurd and unhealthy. I fit neither category although covid has made me closer to the former. A 2000 Cal a day diet only covers the beer.

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No, the average reader of Men's Health is gay.


Every Men's Health reader I know is gay.

But then again, most of the men I know are gay, so that might be skewing the results a teensy bit. What do the straights read these days?
 
2021-08-06 8:32:28 PM  
Hey, did you know Men's Health is listed as a "non-reliable periodical" by Quackwatch?

It's true!

https://quackwatch.org/consumer-educa​t​ion/nonrecperiodicals/
 
2021-08-06 8:58:58 PM  

austerity101: What do the straights read these days?


apparently Claire?
 
2021-08-06 9:14:05 PM  

tintar: FrancoFile: portion control and eat some salad first.

Percise1: normal monkey sized portions.

I have to admit... so, some years back my GP/PCP sent me to a nutritionist (and this wasn't even a fatness thing, just purely to attempt tracking down some hormonal+neurological whatevers) - but holy-wow, this lady trotted out a tiny little plate with a tiny little plastic fake-rice and a tiny little plastic fake-vegetals and a tiny little plastic fake-overcooked-meats. none even 1/3 the size of each those things you might normally consume.

I guess those plastics all came free with her degree in nutricianal-science? and, I know, I get it, those were actual reasonable portions in terms of health. but yeah out in the actual world it's like, "ohai Olive Garden? you just served me enough food to feed an entire small village."


Yeah, "real" servings are depressingly small and are only for subsistence for a cubical dweller with the heart rate of a sloth. But... there is a happy medium in there somewhere. It's really based on What, How much and How Often, taking into account your daily needs and goals... strange that I have to say that, because it is so damn obvious.
And yes, most of the truffle hunters you see eat enough for an entire family in a 3rd world country every day (calorie wise anyway). It takes effort and focus to maintain 350lbs+...

I've almost always been thin with a fast metabolism, so in my more youthful days I could eat damn near anything, as much as I wanted, with impunity... to the point it pissed people off. I was known as "the guy who eats all the time", until my 40s. That's when it started to stick a little.
Fast forward to about 4 years ago now when I hit 215lbs , that was a warning. I didn't like the way I looked in the mirror and decided to do something about it.

fasahd: A 2000 Cal a day diet only covers the beer.


I was also known as "the guy who always had a beer", so I shut that schitt down. I do 1 12 pack a week now, and when that is out, I wine and mix a drink. I didn't change anything else, but lost weight.
At 175, I have to say I could use a few pounds (185-190 well placed is right on my frame) but I actually have ab muscles now. Sort of a shy 4 pack, but in my 50's, I'm OK with that.

Which leads me to portion control. I by no means count calories, I just try to eat until I'm full and no more, and avoid snacking in between. I don't pretend to be a nutritionist, but it is pretty damn obvious not to eat processed foods, don't lean dairy and mete heavy, veggies and fiber are your friends (sans cheese sauce).
Nothing is perfect for everyone, but it works for me just fine, along with working on my feet (mostly) and using what muscles I have. Any given day I might be machining, welding, fixing an EV, dismantling an EV, programming controllers, testing motors (up to 120lbs) or wiring. I move around a lot, and I find the 40lb motors to be perfect for overhead lifts while I walk to the test bench in the lab.

Rule #1 that I tell people... if you use your muscles, you get to keep them.
I feel sorry for the people who go to the gym, then park as close to the store as possible, then use a cart to carry a gallon of milk while I carry 2 baskets that weigh enough that the handles are flexing and stressed.
Life is a workout if you approach it with that mentality...

How's that for a ramble?
 
2021-08-06 9:21:21 PM  

tintar: Percise1: tintar: Ronzoni's "healthy harvest" / "ancient grains" are both surprisingly-edible.

I have had that brand before (and I think the same specific type) and it tastes the least like ass out of many other brands. If you have a good/sufficient sauce, you probably won't know that you are eating taint at all, unless someone points it out to you. *shrug*

I actually find it pleasant enough, but yeah urite it still could well be the preparation. let us agree it is the least-ass of any wheat/veg pasta I've tried/inflicted upon myself for ~2decades.

I've used the penne for a gratin cheesy casserole bake and that thing went over gangbusters. but then what do you expect if'n you can whip together a half decent bechamel, lol.

can't find any photos of that one, but the time I used their rotini for a cold salad was also popular
(no that's a cauliflower-rice so I wasn't double-carbing lol)

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I actually use hole weet pasta quite often, and can make it tasty enough... usually. Like I said, it's about the "sauce" or whatever, but for example, if you are making a pasta salad with fresh veggies (maybe some cheese) and things like olives or pepperoncini or whatever and dress it with a balsamic vinaigrette or such, no one will know that they are eating taint (blind test, of course). The other flavors do the job to carry it through the rim.
 
2021-08-06 9:57:44 PM  
Percise1:

Oh right. Since we're just in here bullshiatting at this point anyway. Did a Jamaican spread last night using straight Walkerswood (regular, not mild) as the jerk rub.

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Their rub is good, but I have two main complaints:

1) You can't really baste with it, and even if you diluted it some in lime juice or chicken broth (just to the consistency of BBQ sauce, for example), you'd end up making the chicken saltier than the damned ocean.

2) I'd like a bit more heat in my jerk seasoning.

The flavor's nice, but the rub is basically exhibit A for why I don't like to marry my marinades, pastes, and spice blends to a certain salt content. I'll still probably use a dab of it in the homemade marinades, and I'll definitely continue to add a bit to the rice and peas.

/I really need better lighting in my kitchen--the bacon and chicken are definitely not that...pallid in person
 
2021-08-06 10:04:42 PM  
Whoa this thread went meta, real quick.

luna1580: Hey, did you know Men's Health is listed as a "non-reliable periodical" by Quackwatch?

It's true!

https://quackwatch.org/consumer-educat​ion/nonrecperiodicals/


Neato, thank you. That's validating. Because I'm Subby, and I have reason to suspect Microsoft News is the laboratory where Alt Right fake news is tested for audience clicks. MSN cited Men's Health as the source they were reprinting, so I went to the source. Microsoft New on the Edge brower dashboard wa extremely biassed toward Turmp and against Clinton in 2016, propagating outright conspiracy theories of Clinton as news. Basically everything from Microsoft News that appears on Edge's landing page is worthy of Fark ridicule.

tintar: ahhh, ok - 'From: Bicycling US' - ffs Subs, just use the actual attribution or are you askeert of bikes.


I used the attribution given. Normally I find the primary sources by using Flipboard. So now the question is, why did MSN News hide the real source?
 
2021-08-07 4:39:12 PM  
It all makes a turd
 
2021-08-07 7:17:10 PM  

olrasputin: Percise1:

Oh right. Since we're just in here bullshiatting at this point anyway. Did a Jamaican spread last night using straight Walkerswood (regular, not mild) as the jerk rub.

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Their rub is good, but I have two main complaints:

1) You can't really baste with it, and even if you diluted it some in lime juice or chicken broth (just to the consistency of BBQ sauce, for example), you'd end up making the chicken saltier than the damned ocean.

2) I'd like a bit more heat in my jerk seasoning.

The flavor's nice, but the rub is basically exhibit A for why I don't like to marry my marinades, pastes, and spice blends to a certain salt content. I'll still probably use a dab of it in the homemade marinades, and I'll definitely continue to add a bit to the rice and peas.

/I really need better lighting in my kitchen--the bacon and chicken are definitely not that...pallid in person


Not just bullschitting... but ok...

I can see it being too salty, I use it as a flavor rather than a marinade or baste.

If you used the hot and not the mild (I'm talking about the rub, not marinade) and that wasn't enough heat, you need new taste buds.
Like, really... your mouth is fried. Hot is hot and stupid is stupid. My friends who eat hot food think it is hot.
Congrats on not having gradients.

Your dishes do look delicious regardless.
 
2021-08-07 7:17:47 PM  

fat boy: It all makes a turd


Burn in and burn out are different though. *shrug*
 
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