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(Twitter)   Nate Silver accuses prominent biologist of stealing his idea about immunity and vaccines. Biologist responds that literally all epidemiologists know this and use it all the time   (twitter.com) divider line
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2021-08-05 4:35:58 PM  
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2021-08-05 4:55:26 PM  
Wanted to like Nate Silver. This is the third time he's assed himself. I'm done.
 
2021-08-05 4:59:57 PM  
Nate is good with number but is a complete farking moron everywhere else.
 
2021-08-05 5:00:24 PM  
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LOL.

Also, the ratio on Nate's tweet (especially compared to Carl) is hilarious.
 
2021-08-05 5:04:47 PM  
If you have never taken molecular biology, you can be forgiven for not knowing exactly how complex the science is. AFAIK, Nate has never made claims about being a biologist.
 
2021-08-05 5:07:25 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Nate is good with number but is a complete farking moron everywhere else.


The Covid vaccine probably gave him autism.
 
2021-08-05 5:08:49 PM  
When data accountants think they're scientists.
 
2021-08-05 5:09:06 PM  
I don't know what a "Nate Silver" is and can't be bothered to find out.

/ Off to the liquor cabinet !
 
2021-08-05 5:09:15 PM  
"I don't know if these stuffy scientists actually bothered to account for X" is commonly rolled out by idiots who think they're smarter than they are.
 
2021-08-05 5:09:24 PM  
This just in: people who are sometimes intelligent are also sometimes douchebags.
 
2021-08-05 5:10:03 PM  
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2021-08-05 5:10:42 PM  

Lambskincoat: If you have never taken molecular biology, you can be forgiven for not knowing exactly how complex the science is. AFAIK, Nate has never made claims about being a biologist.


That is probably true.  But the only proper response was "No kidding?  I did not know that.  Lets get together so you can educate me a bit in your field of expertise so I can further improve in mine."

Silver is being a dick.  He should at a minimum just say "Thank you" and shut up.
 
2021-08-05 5:11:04 PM  
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Probably another of his infamous scams
 
2021-08-05 5:11:08 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Nate is good with number but is a complete farking moron everywhere else.


That could be said about the vast majority of people.

I know a surgeon well surgical technician that works with human transplanting organs and they stupidly microwaved an egg
 
2021-08-05 5:12:13 PM  
I prefer to take epidemiology advice from the teenage know-it-all working the Walmart cashier station.

/Did you know you become magnetic after you get the vaccine?
 
2021-08-05 5:13:29 PM  

Znuh: Wanted to like Nate Silver. This is the third time he's assed himself. I'm done.


I bailed and unfollowed him after the second time.
 
2021-08-05 5:13:40 PM  

Znuh: Wanted to like Nate Silver. This is the third time he's assed himself. I'm done.


Only two strikes for me, but yeah...not exactly covering himself with glory...
 
2021-08-05 5:14:13 PM  
Nate is just doing his "its all just data" to every subject known to man. Not quite, Bro.
 
2021-08-05 5:14:40 PM  
"Anyway it doesn't really matter"

Anyway I bet those grapes were sour.
 
2021-08-05 5:15:15 PM  
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2021-08-05 5:15:33 PM  
NERDS!
 
2021-08-05 5:16:26 PM  
This example illustrates both the the depth of knowledge in scientific communities and its siloed nature. This is not the first time an "outsider" has come into a field with a great new idea, only to find out that it is already well understood by the subject experts.

You having not heard about something doesn't mean no one else has.
 
2021-08-05 5:17:18 PM  
I'd tweet Nate Silver about sunken cost fallacy, but he'd just accuse me of stealing that idea from him too.
 
2021-08-05 5:17:57 PM  

Znuh: Wanted to like Nate Silver. This is the third time he's assed himself. I'm done.


Came here to say this. I like his work with numbers. I like how he tries to unpack what we see from polls, organizes data , etc.

But he's repeatedly been an ass.

This in particular is like, 'You stole my idea?' Really?

Dear lord.
 
2021-08-05 5:18:02 PM  
Nate Silver is the Elon Musk of Thomas Edisons.
 
2021-08-05 5:18:32 PM  

Destructor: I prefer to take epidemiology advice from the teenage know-it-all working the Walmart cashier station.

/Did you know you become magnetic after you get the vaccine?


Did not know that.

But I did learn today that those who are vaccinated spew a protein orally which causes the non-vaccinated to host covid-19.  Yes, there are no-vaxxers who refuse to let the vaccinated, even close relatives, into their homes.

Which is probably just as well, especially if when you leave you're carrying all of the household items containing iron.
 
2021-08-05 5:18:46 PM  
Just because you are good at one thing does not mean you are good at everything. And worse, when you have a large social media presence, your wrongness is dangerous.

God damn, can we just fire Nate Silver and Neil DeGrass Tyson into the sun?
 
2021-08-05 5:18:47 PM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: I'd tweet Nate Silver about sunken cost fallacy, but he'd just accuse me of stealing that idea from him too.


I am having flashbacks to Trump explaining that he invented the term "priming the pump".
 
2021-08-05 5:18:59 PM  
BOO YAH. Nothing gets the blood pumping like a polite Twitter spat between reasonable people.
 
2021-08-05 5:19:06 PM  
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2021-08-05 5:19:17 PM  

northgrave: This example illustrates both the the depth of knowledge in scientific communities and its siloed nature. This is not the first time an "outsider" has come into a field with a great new idea, only to find out that it is already well understood by the subject experts.

You having not heard about something doesn't mean no one else has.


And it's a perfect example of how folks spend a tiny amount of time "researching" in a field and consider themselves capable of having expert conversations on the topic.

I mean, it takes me about four-seconds after reading an article to realize, "hey, I'm not an epidemiologist".
 
2021-08-05 5:19:33 PM  
News flash: Nate Silver thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
 
2021-08-05 5:19:35 PM  

Walker: Znuh: Wanted to like Nate Silver. This is the third time he's assed himself. I'm done.

I bailed and unfollowed him after the second time.


What are the other times?  I am largely ignorant of the Twitterverse.
 
2021-08-05 5:20:24 PM  

Lambskincoat: If you have never taken molecular biology, you can be forgiven for not knowing exactly how complex the science is. AFAIK, Nate has never made claims about being a biologist.


I tried to read up, cold, on how vaccines work. As cold as a 50 year gap between now and my only biology class. I couldn't believe the number of effects and consequences that had to be accounted for.
 
2021-08-05 5:21:00 PM  

northgrave: This example illustrates both the the depth of knowledge in scientific communities and its siloed nature. This is not the first time an "outsider" has come into a field with a great new idea, only to find out that it is already well understood by the subject experts.

You having not heard about something doesn't mean no one else has.


This is a lot like when someone goes "Ha those climate scientists probably didn't factor in penguin poop on the ice flows" and they're like "um, yeah, we did"
 
2021-08-05 5:21:26 PM  

Lambskincoat: If you have never taken molecular biology, you can be forgiven for not knowing exactly how complex the science is. AFAIK, Nate has never made claims about being a biologist.


And yet he continues to not shut the fark and let someone who actually is an expert explain stuff. Instead, he decided to accuse that expert of "stealing" an idea from him.
 
2021-08-05 5:22:05 PM  
I've read Nate Silver's work since he was a pseudonym on Daily Kos, but man his COVID takes have been bad, and 538 really misses having two very good journalists in Claire Malone and Perry Bacon who were also willing (or in Claire's case, downright gleeful) to call Nate on his shiat. Perhaps I'll follow him about in 2.5 years when he might have something useful to say again.
 
2021-08-05 5:24:12 PM  

yakmans_dad: Lambskincoat: If you have never taken molecular biology, you can be forgiven for not knowing exactly how complex the science is. AFAIK, Nate has never made claims about being a biologist.

I tried to read up, cold, on how vaccines work. As cold as a 50 year gap between now and my only biology class. I couldn't believe the number of effects and consequences that had to be accounted for.


You could have saved a lot of time by just going to Facebook. Apparently everything you need to know about vaccines is there.
 
2021-08-05 5:25:04 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Lambskincoat: If you have never taken molecular biology, you can be forgiven for not knowing exactly how complex the science is. AFAIK, Nate has never made claims about being a biologist.

And yet he continues to not shut the fark and let someone who actually is an expert explain stuff. Instead, he decided to accuse that expert of "stealing" an idea from him.


"shut the fark up" is what I meant to type, LOL.
 
2021-08-05 5:25:54 PM  
Cue that one xkcd comic except "physicists" is scratched out and replaced with "statisticians".
 
2021-08-05 5:27:20 PM  

northgrave: This example illustrates both the the depth of knowledge in scientific communities and its siloed nature. This is not the first time an "outsider" has come into a field with a great new idea, only to find out that it is already well understood by the subject experts.


That is kind of what makes people expert in any field.  They know all the stuff about it, and other people don't.

You having not heard about something doesn't mean no one else has.

I just assume if I thought of it, someone else already has, and probably done it better.     "Ain't nothing new under the sun" is true for a reason.
 
2021-08-05 5:27:55 PM  
You know, I'm beginning to think this Nate Silver guy might be a little bit of a prick.

/Narrator: Everyone else had always known he was a total prick.
 
2021-08-05 5:29:17 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: You know, I'm beginning to think this Nate Silver guy might be a little bit of a prick.

/Narrator: Everyone else had always known he was a total prick.


Why did you steal that idea from everybody?
 
2021-08-05 5:29:47 PM  

Rent Party: I just assume if I thought of it, someone else already has, and probably done it better.     "Ain't nothing new under the sun" is true for a reason.


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2021-08-05 5:31:22 PM  

Lambskincoat: If you have never taken molecular biology, you can be forgiven for not knowing exactly how complex the science is. AFAIK, Nate has never made claims about being a biologist.


Then he should clamp his pie hole shut about people "stealing things from him". Those kind of accusations are extremely serious in research circles.
 
2021-08-05 5:31:25 PM  
I was a big fan of Nate's for his polling work until vaccinations became widely available in the US and he started berating mask wearers.  Not mask mandates, just the act of wearing a mask after getting vaccinated.  I understand questioning it now and then, but it was an unusually big deal to him.  I finally stopped following him and was fortunate enough to miss this stupid conversation.
 
2021-08-05 5:31:32 PM  

kpaxoid: Destructor: I prefer to take epidemiology advice from the teenage know-it-all working the Walmart cashier station.

/Did you know you become magnetic after you get the vaccine?

Did not know that.

But I did learn today that those who are vaccinated spew a protein orally which causes the non-vaccinated to host covid-19.  Yes, there are no-vaxxers who refuse to let the vaccinated, even close relatives, into their homes.

Which is probably just as well, especially if when you leave you're carrying all of the household items containing iron.


Since we're spreading stupidly untrue rumors, did you hear that they can now fingerprint covid and find out who infected you so you can sue them?
 
2021-08-05 5:31:37 PM  

Znuh: Wanted to like Nate Silver. This is the third time he's assed himself. I'm done.


80% chance that in 4 years Nate Silver sounds exactly like Scott Adams does now.
 
2021-08-05 5:32:38 PM  
Is this really the best flow Twitter can come up with?

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2021-08-05 5:32:56 PM  
Sure, Nate Silver is not an epidemiologist but did you stop to consider that perhaps he slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
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