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(The Hill)   "Major study says alcohol causes multiple cancers - but coffee helps fend off one of the biggest". Proving, once again, that when it comes to the ingestion of alcohol, the genius of the Irish is unmatched   (thehill.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Cancer, Coffee, Colorectal cancer, umbrella review, The Canon of Medicine, Research and development, Alcohol consumption, Imperial College London  
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2021-08-05 10:14:55 AM  
Whew!

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2021-08-05 10:43:54 AM  
Ah, epidemiological studies - where everything can be proven to both cause and prevent anything, given enough data to peruse.

/Headline: causes
//Article: may elevate risk.
///Moderate your intake, know your family history, drink Bailey's from a shoe.
 
2021-08-05 10:46:22 AM  

jasonvatch: Whew!

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It's not even 10am yet. But sure, I'll have one, thanks.
 
2021-08-05 10:52:29 AM  
At this rate my liver will give out long before I get cancer.
 
2021-08-05 10:52:44 AM  
to alcohol--the cause of, and solution to, all life's problems
 
2021-08-05 10:53:13 AM  
I'll have another caucasian Gary.
 
2021-08-05 10:53:15 AM  

jasonvatch: Whew!

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That's coffee abuse. Dude, why??
 
2021-08-05 10:53:58 AM  

nicoffeine: I'll have another caucasian Gary.


Well, there's a place to forget a comma.
 
2021-08-05 10:54:55 AM  

jasonvatch: Whew!

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Where did you get that picture of my breakfast?
 
2021-08-05 10:55:52 AM  
If the Irish that I hang out with are representative of the rest of the them, they really don't drink Irish coffee.  They think it is for "English poofs".
 
2021-08-05 10:56:53 AM  
FTA: "could*" ... "Researchers, led by a team from Imperial College London, found in a study published in Nature Communications that drinking alcohol "is a major risk factor for several cancers, including breast, CRC, esophageal, head and neck, and liver cancer."

Only one of those things has anything to do with drinking. I'm guessing there's a huge Venn Diagram overlap between the participants in the study and smokers. They really need to tear that study apart and find out how hard they worked at eliminating tobacco users of any kind from the research.
 
2021-08-05 10:57:40 AM  

nicoffeine: I'll have another caucasian Gary.


What's a "Caucasian Gary"??
 
2021-08-05 10:57:47 AM  
Ugh.
I remember when I could drink until four then sleep until five the next evening and by six have another beer in my hand.
Long gone.
 
2021-08-05 10:59:11 AM  

nicoffeine: nicoffeine: I'll have another caucasian Gary.

Well, there's a place to forget a comma.


It gets meta

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2021-08-05 10:59:19 AM  

thespindrifter: nicoffeine: I'll have another caucasian Gary.

What's a "Caucasian Gary"??


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2021-08-05 11:00:28 AM  
(family guy) irish dad song
Youtube loe8Zdxood0
 
2021-08-05 11:01:38 AM  
The article only has a photo of hard liquor so beer is still safe.
 
2021-08-05 11:01:51 AM  
Espresso stout.
 
2021-08-05 11:02:35 AM  
....and when God created whiskey it was his way of saying the Irish shouldn't take over the world.....
 
2021-08-05 11:04:39 AM  
Normally I'd find such a doom-laden article about alcohol so depressing I'd have to get myself a drink to steady my nerves but then the impended collapse of civilisation and the whole climate crisis reminds me I don't want to live much longer anyway. So I got myself a drink to speed things up. I'm much too much of a coward to do it faster.
 
2021-08-05 11:09:07 AM  

groverpm: Normally I'd find such a doom-laden article about alcohol so depressing I'd have to get myself a drink to steady my nerves but then the impended collapse of civilisation and the whole climate crisis reminds me I don't want to live much longer anyway. So I got myself a drink to speed things up. I'm much too much of a coward to do it faster.


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2021-08-05 11:10:07 AM  

knackx: Ah, epidemiological studies - where everything can be proven to both cause and prevent anything, given enough data to peruse.

/Headline: causes
//Article: may elevate risk.
///Moderate your intake, know your family history, drink Bailey's from a shoe.


Gotta love the fact that you can still run a couple of tests on a large data set and P-hack your way to another publishable article.
 
2021-08-05 11:12:33 AM  

thespindrifter: FTA: "could*" ... "Researchers, led by a team from Imperial College London, found in a study published in Nature Communications that drinking alcohol "is a major risk factor for several cancers, including breast, CRC, esophageal, head and neck, and liver cancer."

Only one of those things has anything to do with drinking. I'm guessing there's a huge Venn Diagram overlap between the participants in the study and smokers. They really need to tear that study apart and find out how hard they worked at eliminating tobacco users of any kind from the research.


I think it's probably correct. Alcohol likely does increase all of those cancer risks, other variables being constant.
 
2021-08-05 11:16:15 AM  
I drink coffee, regularly eat cheese, yogurt, and various grains like rice, oats, quinoa and wheat.  I'm superhuman according to the article.
 
2021-08-05 11:20:46 AM  
I should start drinking coffee then
 
2021-08-05 11:20:53 AM  
One of the linked articles after the article states that drinking a lot of coffee shrinks the brain and increases dementia risk.
 
2021-08-05 11:22:56 AM  

king of vegas: thespindrifter: FTA: "could*" ... "Researchers, led by a team from Imperial College London, found in a study published in Nature Communications that drinking alcohol "is a major risk factor for several cancers, including breast, CRC, esophageal, head and neck, and liver cancer."

Only one of those things has anything to do with drinking. I'm guessing there's a huge Venn Diagram overlap between the participants in the study and smokers. They really need to tear that study apart and find out how hard they worked at eliminating tobacco users of any kind from the research.

I think it's probably correct. Alcohol likely does increase all of those cancer risks, other variables being constant.


Alcohol is toxic

The key is spreading it out over enough time to give your body a "rest" from having to metabalize it.

Caffeine farks with my sleep.

The reason caffeine drinkers wake up so groggy is they are going thru caffeine withdrawal.

Non caffeine consumers wake up rested without needing a fix as long as they get enough sleep.

Half life of caffeine is 6 to 7 hours.
 
2021-08-05 11:26:29 AM  

thespindrifter: nicoffeine: I'll have another caucasian Gary.

What's a "Caucasian Gary"??


It's one part Red Bull, one part Mike's hard lemonade and 1 part Coors.
 
2021-08-05 11:27:18 AM  

Gubbo: jasonvatch: Whew!

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It's not even 10am yet. But sure, I'll have one, thanks.


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2021-08-05 11:30:31 AM  
Everything causes cancer. It's just a matter of how much.
 
2021-08-05 11:30:51 AM  

thespindrifter: jasonvatch: Whew!

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That's coffee abuse. Dude, why??


If it was Blue Mountain, I'd agree. But it's just Hills Brothers. And fake sugar. ('beetus)
 
2021-08-05 11:32:13 AM  
Alcohol, then coffee? Yes, yes yes.

RTFA for the finer details? No, no no.
 
2021-08-05 11:37:33 AM  
A good day starts with coffee, a few beers around noon, nap around five, another coffee, a few more beers at sunset, maybe a shot of whiskey to go to sleep, repeat.
 
2021-08-05 11:39:52 AM  
I thought the Irish drank tea.
 
2021-08-05 11:52:51 AM  

jasonvatch: thespindrifter: jasonvatch: Whew!

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That's coffee abuse. Dude, why??

If it was Blue Mountain, I'd agree. But it's just Hills Brothers. And fake sugar. ('beetus)


I've made Irish Coffee using Blue Mountain.  When you want to make perfect Irish Coffee, you need to use the best of ingredients.  Blue Mountain coffee, Black Bush Whisky, homemade whipped cream.  It's a lot of work so I don't make it very often.
 
2021-08-05 11:54:00 AM  

serfdood: I drink coffee, regularly eat cheese, yogurt, and various grains like rice, oats, quinoa and wheat.  I'm superhuman according to the article.


I discovered these this past weekend and now they will be a staple in my house.  Quick to nuke, delicious, and not loaded with sodium.  Best of all they're only $2 a pack at the wholesale club ($7.99 for a pack of 4).

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2021-08-05 12:05:17 PM  

Nick Nostril: Gubbo: jasonvatch: Whew!

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It's not even 10am yet. But sure, I'll have one, thanks.

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You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.
 
2021-08-05 12:07:23 PM  

bababa: One of the linked articles after the article states that drinking a lot of coffee shrinks the brain and increases dementia risk.


Ive read where it reduces blood flow to the brain by constricting brain arteries.

Doesnt sound like something that would be harmless.
 
2021-08-05 12:17:40 PM  
2 pints of beer or 2 glasses of wine, or 2 liquor drinks per day are not harmful and even helpful for you.  St. Benedict said a pint of wine per day is sufficient for anybody.
 
2021-08-05 1:49:38 PM  
"I won these results in a Major Study!"

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2021-08-05 1:55:17 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: serfdood: I drink coffee, regularly eat cheese, yogurt, and various grains like rice, oats, quinoa and wheat.  I'm superhuman according to the article.

I discovered these this past weekend and now they will be a staple in my house.  Quick to nuke, delicious, and not loaded with sodium.  Best of all they're only $2 a pack at the wholesale club ($7.99 for a pack of 4).

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Needs bacon.

In all seriousness, finding quick and easy foods that taste good and are healthy (or at least not bad for you) is always a pain.  Perhaps I'll give this a try.
 
2021-08-05 2:17:02 PM  
♫ Everything Everything gives you cancer  ♫

Cancer - Joe Jackson
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2021-08-05 3:12:15 PM  

thespindrifter: FTA: "could*" ... "Researchers, led by a team from Imperial College London, found in a study published in Nature Communications that drinking alcohol "is a major risk factor for several cancers, including breast, CRC, esophageal, head and neck, and liver cancer."

Only one of those things has anything to do with drinking. I'm guessing there's a huge Venn Diagram overlap between the participants in the study and smokers. They really need to tear that study apart and find out how hard they worked at eliminating tobacco users of any kind from the research.


Any good research adjusts for differences in participants, including things like age, geography, drug use, exercise habits, and pretty much every other way individuals are different.
 
2021-08-05 3:53:31 PM  

KB202: thespindrifter: FTA: "could*" ... "Researchers, led by a team from Imperial College London, found in a study published in Nature Communications that drinking alcohol "is a major risk factor for several cancers, including breast, CRC, esophageal, head and neck, and liver cancer."

Only one of those things has anything to do with drinking. I'm guessing there's a huge Venn Diagram overlap between the participants in the study and smokers. They really need to tear that study apart and find out how hard they worked at eliminating tobacco users of any kind from the research.

Any good research adjusts for differences in participants, including things like age, geography, drug use, exercise habits, and pretty much every other way individuals are different.


And this was published in Lancet which has an impact factor of about 60. But farkers who read xkcd, watch youtube videos and the science channel think they can do better than the reviewers of that journal. It would really be helpful if people questioning methodology in threads like this would post their h-index.
 
2021-08-05 7:45:33 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: serfdood: I drink coffee, regularly eat cheese, yogurt, and various grains like rice, oats, quinoa and wheat.  I'm superhuman according to the article.

I discovered these this past weekend and now they will be a staple in my house.  Quick to nuke, delicious, and not loaded with sodium.  Best of all they're only $2 a pack at the wholesale club ($7.99 for a pack of 4).

[birdseye.com image 500x500]


all the various steam in the bag vegetables probably saved my lazy-cooking life. once the advent of those came around, my freezer is always stocked. every dinner I'll get in a few servings of something green.

yeah it would be cheaper to buy fresh stuff and steam it, but the convienience? worth it!
 
2021-08-06 3:55:29 AM  

duckpoopy: KB202: thespindrifter: FTA: "could*" ... "Researchers, led by a team from Imperial College London, found in a study published in Nature Communications that drinking alcohol "is a major risk factor for several cancers, including breast, CRC, esophageal, head and neck, and liver cancer."

Only one of those things has anything to do with drinking. I'm guessing there's a huge Venn Diagram overlap between the participants in the study and smokers. They really need to tear that study apart and find out how hard they worked at eliminating tobacco users of any kind from the research.

Any good research adjusts for differences in participants, including things like age, geography, drug use, exercise habits, and pretty much every other way individuals are different.

And this was published in Lancet which has an impact factor of about 60. But farkers who read xkcd, watch youtube videos and the science channel think they can do better than the reviewers of that journal. It would really be helpful if people questioning methodology in threads like this would post their h-index.


How about some common sense? If the chemical in question is an ingested liquid, and it impacts the throat but not the esophagus or stomach, something is missing from the picture.

If all instances of oral, esophageal, stomach, and small intestine cancer increased? Then yes you now have something.

It wouldn't be the first time a paper got published with accolades that got recalled later after a closer look. Hell, there's been peer-reviewed, published papers that were accepted as gospel for decades only to be disproven later. Did they examine the Scots, Irish, Aussies, and Milwaukeeans? Because if alcohol causes cancer then those are the people you check first, right after double-checking to make sure they did not or are not lying about tobacco use past or present. If you don't already have a statistically significant uptick in those groups, don't even bother continuing with the theory.
 
2021-08-06 6:10:40 AM  
It wouldn't matter if doctors said, "If you drink one beer, you'll develop cancer in one week and be dead in one month."  People would drink the beer anyway, and then b*tch on their deathbed that they never should have drunk the beer.

/COVID has shown me that a helluva lot of people just don't care about their health
 
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