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2021-08-05 11:34:11 AM  

Jake Havechek: Go ahead, email me your wife's text number and I'll send her a video of me jacking it. It's not like I'm touching her, am I right?


Admit it. You're hoping someone actually emails you, aren't you?
 
2021-08-05 11:48:13 AM  

Cosmic Cowboy: Khellendros: Cosmic Cowboy: Good lord, Fark is full of assholes. The guy did bad things, no doubt. He has also paid dearly for it. But it's never enough for the Fark judgement squad. The guy should never be allowed on stage again for the rest of his life? Who do you think you are to pass such harsh judgement on others? How did your sense of fairness get so out of whack? It's so easy to be an absolutist when it's someone else's life in the balance.

I'm curious - other than a public apology to start to repair his own image (which didn't come out until it was basically forced), what has he done to make recompense for his serial abuse of people under his control?  Has he worked to boost the careers of those he violated?  Used his power and standing to make things right?  Worked to create a more just and fair environment for women in his part of showbusiness?

Or did he do what most of these creeps do - lay low for a few years doing very little, living on their substantial wealth until public memory faded a little?  I haven't seen much in the way of Louis putting in a lot of effort to fix the problem he exemplified or repair the damage.

Just going away for a while and "not doing it again" doesn't make things any better.

He isn't obligated to make the world a better place. He wasn't even obligated to apologize. His only obligation is to stop doing the bad things he was doing.


And no one is obligated to give him an audience or patronize places that let him perform.  No one is going to put him in irons that prevent him from getting on a stage and performing.  But if he wants a substantial portion of his audience back, just stopping the overtly awful act doesn't cut it.

Repair the damage, make restitution, and make the situation better.  That's the social obligation on people in power when they betray public trust.  As far as I can tell, he's done nothing but go away for a few years and did a "sorry, won't do it again" statement.  I'm not going to be ok with the school bully just because he stopped punching other kids in the hall until he demonstrates he's a better human being.
 
2021-08-05 11:49:39 AM  

xalres: I don't know about you but "Being asked by my boss if I'd like to see him yank his hog." is not something anybody should be worried about when going to work.


Getting high and drinking wine after a show over really isn't "at work."
 
2021-08-05 11:53:27 AM  

Jake Havechek: Go ahead, email me your wife's text number and I'll send her a video of me jacking it. It's not like I'm touching her, am I right?


what's your e-mail address?
 
2021-08-05 11:59:55 AM  

mjbok: xalres: I don't know about you but "Being asked by my boss if I'd like to see him yank his hog." is not something anybody should be worried about when going to work.

Getting high and drinking wine after a show over really isn't "at work."


Why isn't it? Comedian isn't "a real job"?
 
2021-08-05 12:05:25 PM  

mjbok: xalres: I don't know about you but "Being asked by my boss if I'd like to see him yank his hog." is not something anybody should be worried about when going to work.

Getting high and drinking wine after a show over really isn't "at work."


Shouldn't have to worry about it there either. The fark kinds of places do you frequent?

Kind of bizarre what some people will defend as "Normal" or "Not that bad". Like, if your boss or co-worker asked you to watch him jack it, at work or not, you'd just let it go? You wouldn't get skeeved out and report him? Or at least warn your other co-workers? You'd defend him because he "deserves to make a living"?
 
2021-08-05 12:05:47 PM  

TDWCom29: Why isn't it? Comedian isn't "a real job"?


It wasn't at a club.  It was at a hotel/apartment (at least most of the ones I've read about.)

And you really can't compare professionalism in that workplace compared to a cubicle farm worker.

//Do/done both
 
2021-08-05 12:08:43 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: Why isn't it? Comedian isn't "a real job"?

It wasn't at a club.  It was at a hotel/apartment (at least most of the ones I've read about.)

And you really can't compare professionalism in that workplace compared to a cubicle farm worker.

//Do/done both


So we've found out 2 things about you

You think a person can do whatever they want to co-workers so long as it isn't in the place of business

You think that just because comedians may not be "as professional" that means whipping dicks out is okay. How many fellow comedians did you show your dick to?
 
2021-08-05 12:10:35 PM  

xalres: Shouldn't have to worry about it there either. The fark kinds of places do you frequent?

Kind of bizarre what some people will defend as "Normal" or "Not that bad". Like, if your boss or co-worker asked you to watch him jack it, at work or not, you'd just let it go? You wouldn't get skeeved out and report him? Or at least warn your other co-workers? You'd defend him because he "deserves to make a living"?


If you are hanging out with a peer (CK was not their boss) outside of work where you are breaking the law a lot of bets are off.  The only thing off is the power balance thing.  Besides that you might think it is icky, but these are comics and comics are not (in general) the most normal people and I live and let live.  Would you be freaked out if you were hanging out with QT and he asked to see your feet?
 
2021-08-05 12:13:13 PM  

TDWCom29: You think a person can do whatever they want to co-workers so long as it isn't in the place of business


No.  The post I responded to said it happened at work.  It did not.

You think that just because comedians may not be "as professional" that means whipping dicks out is okay. How many fellow comedians did you show your dick to?

Didn't say that either.  He didn't just whip it out.  He asked.  That is a huge difference.  And the number is zero.
 
2021-08-05 12:16:32 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: You think a person can do whatever they want to co-workers so long as it isn't in the place of business

No.  The post I responded to said it happened at work.  It did not.


Okay, so? Why would you be arguing that if you didn't think it was okay to do not-at work?

You think that just because comedians may not be "as professional" that means whipping dicks out is okay. How many fellow comedians did you show your dick to?

Didn't say that either.  He didn't just whip it out.  He asked.  That is a huge difference.  And the number is zero.


Why was it zero? Why didn't you ask your fellow comedians politely if you could take your dick out and jerk off in front of them? It's apparently a perfectly reasonable thing to do
 
2021-08-05 12:23:46 PM  

TDWCom29: Why was it zero? Why didn't you ask your fellow comedians politely if you could take your dick out and jerk off in front of them? It's apparently a perfectly reasonable thing to do


Because it's not my thing.  I've had comedians offer me a bump which is not my thing either and def. not a professional thing to do.  And I said no and that was it.

TDWCom29: Okay, so? Why would you be arguing that if you didn't think it was okay to do not-at work?


There are things that are not okay to do at work that are okay to do at work.  I don't see why this is a difficult concept.

I'm not even a CK fan, it is just odd how he got hammered and is associated with rapists even though he asked if he could do something and didn't if they said no.
 
2021-08-05 12:24:32 PM  

mjbok: There are things that are not okay to do at work that are okay to do while not at work

 
2021-08-05 12:25:36 PM  
I used to find his stand up funny.  He farked up and apologized.  But for me, knowing he's a weird creep and the kind of comedy he did just doesn't make me interested in what he has to say anymore.
 
2021-08-05 12:32:18 PM  
I've showed my bare ass on stage during stand-up, i.e., bombed.
 
2021-08-05 12:33:08 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: Why was it zero? Why didn't you ask your fellow comedians politely if you could take your dick out and jerk off in front of them? It's apparently a perfectly reasonable thing to do

Because it's not my thing.  I've had comedians offer me a bump which is not my thing either and def. not a professional thing to do.  And I said no and that was it.


But what if you felt like you couldn't say no? That's kind of what the women are saying.

TDWCom29: Okay, so? Why would you be arguing that if you didn't think it was okay to do not-at work?

There are things that are not okay to do at work that are okay to do at work.  I don't see why this is a difficult concept.


At what point does "asking co-workers if they want to see you jerk off" become okay?
 
2021-08-05 12:36:57 PM  

rightClick: AmbassadorBooze: tfresh: AmbassadorBooze: Clarence Brown: For very complicated reasons, I found myself in conversation with the owner of a comedy club that immediately started employing him, and that person said, "Well, he has a right to make a living."

I was gobsmacked. I still wish I'd said, "No one is denying him the right to dig ditches."

Cancel all places that employ Louis CK.

Problem solved.  Once cancelled, make sure people and places stay cancelled.  Make the cancelled crawl to the teat of trump to survive.  Especially in hollywood.  Just farking cancel the people and make them go to putin or to trump.  Make them beg to eat at the butthole of trump just to survive.  Let the trump hole feed them like a momma bird puking into it's babies mouths.  Have them gobble it all up.

But cancel culture isn't supposed to exist.

🤷

Lets make it exist.  When a person is objectively bad, cancel them.  Have everybody in the party stop selling them stuff.  Stop employing them.  Stop servicing them.  Divorce them.  Have the banking institutions close their accounts.  Stop acknowledging their existance such that if they are walking down the street, you don't see them and you just bowl them right over if they are in your way.  Make them go to Trump and beg to have mamma bird feed them just to survive.  Asking people nicely to keep their limp dicks in their pants has failed.  Time for people to fear taking their flacid cis male white cocks out in front of people without written consent, in triplicate, and with 30 days public notice for comments.

Problem solved.

does fark also need to now be cancelled since they greenlit a link referencing this person?


Not until we can get the party leaders to publish a list of burn notices daily or weekly.  We need to know who to cancel.

Let's get a change.org petition going to get the party leaders to start pushing the burn notices.
 
2021-08-05 12:37:49 PM  
I find it interesting that though he was "canceled", gets berated by keyboard warriors and is called all kinds of nasty names (some deserved), being written in articles as if his shows are disasters, that when he toured a few months after the accusations (which he owned up to) he played to sold out venues and the crowd sounded like they had a good time.
 
2021-08-05 12:39:52 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: Why isn't it? Comedian isn't "a real job"?

It wasn't at a club.  It was at a hotel/apartment (at least most of the ones I've read about.)

And you really can't compare professionalism in that workplace compared to a cubicle farm worker.

//Do/done both


It wasn't at a club?  In that case how is that different than asking someone back to your apartment?
 
2021-08-05 12:43:49 PM  

thegreg1: I find it interesting that though he was "canceled", gets berated by keyboard warriors and is called all kinds of nasty names (some deserved), being written in articles as if his shows are disasters, that when he toured a few months after the accusations (which he owned up to) he played to sold out venues and the crowd sounded like they had a good time.


So you agree that cancel culture doesn't really exist?
 
2021-08-05 12:51:22 PM  

TDWCom29: Why didn't you ask your fellow comedians politely if you could take your dick out and jerk off in front of them? It's apparently a perfectly reasonable thing to do


So Sarah Silverman said he asked her, she said yes, and they went through with it. No complaints.
We can clutch our pearls and pretend this is evil, but a dude's weird sex stuff really isn't my business.

TDWCom29: But what if you felt like you couldn't say no?


If he was their boss maybe. But there was two of them in a hotel room and they said yes.
A lot of people need to grow up and realize they can say no to just about anything. "Our Yes actually meant No" puts the person asking in a ludicrous situation.
This guy doesn't deserve to be ostracized because he's into kinky shiat. We used to do that to every gay person.
 
2021-08-05 12:53:33 PM  

TDWCom29: But what if you felt like you couldn't say no? That's kind of what the women are saying.


Sarah Silvermann said she didn't feel pressured to say yes.  In any job when you are with co-workers off-hours there are things that are raised that you might say no to.  Example:  at a bar and doing shots.  A group of people were doing shots and one person declined.  That person did have their career (indirectly) impacted by saying no to that.  Anytime you choose to associate with people you work with there is that possibility, it's just that this particular example was a little more extreme.


TDWCom29: At what point does "asking co-workers if they want to see you jerk off" become okay?


I don't know.  However when you are in a career like the one that these particular people are in 90% of the people you associate with are "co-workers".  Does that mean they can never ask a co-worker out?  They would feel they couldn't say no, right?

My whole point is in the thing that he did he did it in the best way he possibly could.  As I mentioned SS was fine with it, others were not.  There is no way to know without asking, which he did.

Take the whole same career aspect out of it.  He's hanging out with a couple fans from a show.  Would what he did be okay then?
 
2021-08-05 12:55:09 PM  

moothemagiccow: A lot of people need to grow up and realize they can say no to just about anything. "Our Yes actually meant No" puts the person asking in a ludicrous situation.
This guy doesn't deserve to be ostracized because he's into kinky shiat. We used to do that to every gay person.


Thank-you.  Your last statement was in my head, but I thought that might be a bridge to far, but I'll gladly walk over it if you build it.
 
2021-08-05 12:55:30 PM  

moothemagiccow: TDWCom29: Why didn't you ask your fellow comedians politely if you could take your dick out and jerk off in front of them? It's apparently a perfectly reasonable thing to do

So Sarah Silverman said he asked her, she said yes, and they went through with it. No complaints.
We can clutch our pearls and pretend this is evil, but a dude's weird sex stuff really isn't my business.


Okay that's one of them. What about the rest of them? There were like, a lot. If he jerks off in front of 100 women and 99 of them are okay with it and 1 isn't it's still shiatty

TDWCom29: But what if you felt like you couldn't say no?

If he was their boss maybe. But there was two of them in a hotel room and they said yes.
A lot of people need to grow up and realize they can say no to just about anything. "Our Yes actually meant No" puts the person asking in a ludicrous situation.


Oh no, the guy asking women if he can jerk off in front of them may be put in a ludicrous situation! Poor guy


This guy doesn't deserve to be ostracized because he's into kinky shiat. We used to do that to every gay person.

You can be as kinky as you want so long as everyone you're kinky to is into it.
 
2021-08-05 12:57:27 PM  

TDWCom29: thegreg1: I find it interesting that though he was "canceled", gets berated by keyboard warriors and is called all kinds of nasty names (some deserved), being written in articles as if his shows are disasters, that when he toured a few months after the accusations (which he owned up to) he played to sold out venues and the crowd sounded like they had a good time.

So you agree that cancel culture doesn't really exist?


I think cancel culture is more fear based. A venue may not book because of the fear of protests or bad media. I personally say let them do their shows, if we don't want them or whatever then we won't pay to go. But to say we can't experience what we want to cuz YOU don't like it is pretty unamerican
 
2021-08-05 1:00:23 PM  

TDWCom29: So you agree that cancel culture doesn't really exist?


Why does it always come down to this nonsensical denialism?

CK's tv shows literally got cancelled. His movie was never shown in theaters, sold on dvd, or streamed. I don't care whether you think he's a bad person or not, he suffered because of this. fark, look at this thread entirely dedicated to making fun of his kink.

Why are you so mad, so dedicated to making sure people face consequences and yet pretend at the same time that those consequences aren't real? Why would you bother getting outraged if you don't think it works? Why are you arguing that he deserved those consequences?

Why do you think it's clever to be disingenuous?

If you want to argue the consequences weren't enough, that's one thing. That's fine! But at the same time you're dedicated to this binary lie that collective outrage has no effects whatsoever. Who do you think you're kidding?
 
2021-08-05 1:01:55 PM  

TDWCom29: You can be as kinky as you want so long as everyone you're kinky to is into it.


And how do you find this out?  I would say ask them.
 
2021-08-05 1:02:28 PM  

TDWCom29: Oh no, the guy asking women if he can jerk off in front of them may be put in a ludicrous situation! Poor guy

You can be as kinky as you want so long as everyone you're kinky to is into it.


These are completely contradictory stances and you know it. This is doublethink.
 
2021-08-05 1:02:33 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: But what if you felt like you couldn't say no? That's kind of what the women are saying.

Sarah Silverman said she didn't feel pressured to say yes.  In any job when you are with co-workers off-hours there are things that are raised that you might say no to.  Example:  at a bar and doing shots.  A group of people were doing shots and one person declined.  That person did have their career (indirectly) impacted by saying no to that.  Anytime you choose to associate with people you work with there is that possibility, it's just that this particular example was a little more extreme.


"A little more extreme" = "potentially a sex crime".


TDWCom29: At what point does "asking co-workers if they want to see you jerk off" become okay?

I don't know.


Should have just stopped here


However when you are in a career like the one that these particular people are in 90% of the people you associate with are "co-workers".  Does that mean they can never ask a co-worker out?  They would feel they couldn't say no, right?

Again you seem to be equating fairly normal behavior with a potential sex-crime


My whole point is in the thing that he did he did it in the best way he possibly could.  As I mentioned SS was fine with it, others were not.  There is no way to know without asking, which he did.

Take the whole same career aspect out of it.  He's hanging out with a couple fans from a show.  Would what he did be okay then?


Not if they weren't into it.

You really want to jerk off in front of people, don't you? It's the only explanation for why you're so into defending such obviously wrong behavior

Also, I'm not saying Louis should live in a hole and never show his face again. Let him earn a living if he can. But to say "Oh it's no big deal what he did" is about as wrong an opinion as one can have
 
2021-08-05 1:07:10 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: You can be as kinky as you want so long as everyone you're kinky to is into it.

And how do you find this out?  I would say ask them.


A federal database.  Everybody submits their kink, and if a person who has a kink that works with yours, you get a notification on your app.  Then, after getting written consent to ask, in triplicate, and 30 days public notice, you may ask the person who matches with you.

Problem solved.
 
2021-08-05 1:07:24 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: You can be as kinky as you want so long as everyone you're kinky to is into it.

And how do you find this out?  I would say ask them.


Just that cut-and-dry is it?
 
2021-08-05 1:07:31 PM  

log_jammin: Jake Havechek: Lot of pervert supporters in this place. Sickos.

Prude.


"prude" is incorrect usage in this context.  we're not talking about sex- C.K. handing it off in front of cringing people who were afraid for their careers wasn't erotic, it was more like whatever drives flashers to expose themselves.
 
2021-08-05 1:08:51 PM  

TDWCom29: "A little more extreme" = "potentially a sex crime".


Flow chart:

Can I do X

If yes, do X, end of flow

If no,

Don't do X, end of flow/do x = sex crime, end of flow

TDWCom29: You really want to jerk off in front of people, don't you? It's the only explanation for why you're so into defending such obviously wrong behavior


You really think that people that are any kinkier than you are deviants, don't you.  It's the only explanation...

In your world there is no way CK could have approached this that wasn't awful, because you have a problem (not with the consent) with the act that he enjoys.


//Jerking off in front of others really isn't my thing
 
2021-08-05 1:11:03 PM  
I won't deny the incredible amount of talent he has as a comedy writer and even as a performer himself.
But i am also kinda of amazed that he apparently, can't seem to understand that no amount of talent can make him acceptable again.

If he gives any shiats about humanity at all, he needs to go back to just staying out of the public's way for the rest of his life.
he got his, he had his 15 min far far more than most ever get. He needs to do some adulating and just go quietly through the rest of his life, for the good of all.
he should have enough income, live a humble life and be happy you didn't have to work from birth to death for every meal you'll ever eat like the vast majority of us.
 
2021-08-05 1:14:56 PM  

moothemagiccow: TDWCom29: So you agree that cancel culture doesn't really exist?

Why does it always come down to this nonsensical denialism?

CK's tv shows literally got cancelled. His movie was never shown in theaters, sold on dvd, or streamed. I don't care whether you think he's a bad person or not, he suffered because of this. fark, look at this thread entirely dedicated to making fun of his kink.

Why are you so mad, so dedicated to making sure people face consequences and yet pretend at the same time that those consequences aren't real? Why would you bother getting outraged if you don't think it works? Why are you arguing that he deserved those consequences?

Why do you think it's clever to be disingenuous?

If you want to argue the consequences weren't enough, that's one thing. That's fine! But at the same time you're dedicated to this binary lie that collective outrage has no effects whatsoever. Who do you think you're kidding?


I rail against "cancel culture" bullshiat because it's a bullshiat, stupid thing to be worried about. Louis lost his TV show and movie distribution for the same reason you don't see Michael Richards in anything for the last 20 years. People act like when people are cancelled it's for no good reason and they're put out into some phantom zone where they can never be in show business ever again. Everyone whose been cancelled (aside from Kramer) has continued to have a show business career. Hell, Mel Gibson is back

I mean look at you people, you're literally defending a sex-crime. Admittedly it's not to the level of a Bill Cosby sex crime, but all the same look at what you're defending. And you can do all the bullshiat "Oh it's just his kink" disingenuousness you want. But it's just weird that you guy are so into defending a guy who's so obviously in the wrong
 
2021-08-05 1:17:22 PM  

TDWCom29: I mean look at you people, you're literally defending a sex-crime. Admittedly it's not to the level of a Bill Cosby sex crime, but all the same look at what you're defending. And you can do all the bullshiat "Oh it's just his kink" disingenuousness you want. But it's just weird that you guy are so into defending a guy who's so obviously in the wrong


Other than the obvious:  just not doing it, how could CK have done this and exercised his fetish?
 
2021-08-05 1:18:05 PM  
"sex-crime"

lol!
 
2021-08-05 1:18:08 PM  

moothemagiccow: TDWCom29: Oh no, the guy asking women if he can jerk off in front of them may be put in a ludicrous situation! Poor guy

You can be as kinky as you want so long as everyone you're kinky to is into it.

These are completely contradictory stances and you know it. This is doublethink.


How is it contradictory? Just because people are allowed to be kinky doesn't mean asking random-people-who-you-have-no-idea-are​-into-your-kink won't make for a weird situation.
 
2021-08-05 1:19:36 PM  

mjbok: TDWCom29: I mean look at you people, you're literally defending a sex-crime. Admittedly it's not to the level of a Bill Cosby sex crime, but all the same look at what you're defending. And you can do all the bullshiat "Oh it's just his kink" disingenuousness you want. But it's just weird that you guy are so into defending a guy who's so obviously in the wrong

Other than the obvious:  just not doing it, how could CK have done this and exercised his fetish?


Well I know how not to do it: The way he did it

Or do you think the women were lying just to get back at him for some odd reason?
 
2021-08-05 1:20:36 PM  

log_jammin: "sex-crime"

lol!


What would you call jerking off in front of women who didn't want him to? Maybe it's a harsh term, I'm willing to hear substitutes
 
2021-08-05 1:22:36 PM  

Khellendros: Repair the damage, make restitution, and make the situation better.


He's wise to not entertain this. Nobody can agree what the damage was and what restitution would look like, so why try to indulge the whims of the mob when he can just go on tour like he's doing now?
 
2021-08-05 1:24:34 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Khellendros: Repair the damage, make restitution, and make the situation better.

He's wise to not entertain this. Nobody can agree what the damage was and what restitution would look like, so why try to indulge the whims of the mob when he can just go on tour like he's doing now?


Exactly. But do you at least agree that what he did was incredibly farked up if the women who said they didn't really want him to jerk off in front of them are to be believed?
 
2021-08-05 1:27:21 PM  

PvtStash: I won't deny the incredible amount of talent he has as a comedy writer and even as a performer himself.
But i am also kinda of amazed that he apparently, can't seem to understand that no amount of talent can make him acceptable again.


Have you read this thread? It's full of people who think what he did was okay. He'll be just fine
 
2021-08-05 1:33:49 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Khellendros: Repair the damage, make restitution, and make the situation better.

He's wise to not entertain this. Nobody can agree what the damage was and what restitution would look like, so why try to indulge the whims of the mob when he can just go on tour like he's doing now?


This isn't rocket science.  He know what damage he's done, as do his victims.  It's been articulated clearly.  Restitution would/could include civil payments, underwriting and supporting events starring women comics and writers, contributing to woman's advocacy groups in showbusiness, speaking forcefully on the issue in public forums, etc.  You know, donating time and money to fix not only what he did, but to help dismantle the environment that made it possible.

How is this hard to comprehend?  You're advocating for him to act like it's no biggie and just pick up where he left off professionally.  And then to expect that everyone is ok with that.  Your route only makes sense if he doesn't want to fix what he did, or doesn't understand what he did wrong.  And if that's the case, he's still a total piece of shiat that hasn't learned anything.  I'd like to think he's capable of being a decent person.
 
2021-08-05 1:38:53 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: mjbok: TDWCom29: You can be as kinky as you want so long as everyone you're kinky to is into it.

And how do you find this out?  I would say ask them.

A federal database.  Everybody submits their kink, and if a person who has a kink that works with yours, you get a notification on your app.  Then, after getting written consent to ask, in triplicate, and 30 days public notice, you may ask the person who matches with you.

Problem solved.


Geez, when you can't even get a funny in this thread with that...
 
2021-08-05 1:40:55 PM  

TDWCom29: log_jammin: "sex-crime"

lol!

What would you call jerking off in front of women who didn't want him to? Maybe it's a harsh term, I'm willing to hear substitutes


If they didn't want him to, they could've said so.

I think a lot of people are really farking tired of this "have your cake and eat it too" notion that women are helpless babies who can't possibly mouth the word "no", even in a power dynamic situation, which in this case there wasn't even one.

Bottom line: HE ASKED THEM AND THEY SAID YES.  If they didn't mean it, well, last I checked he isn't a farking mind reader.

And yeah, it's weird and it's creepy and it's awkward and it's off putting.  It's also not a sex crime and it's none of our business.
 
2021-08-05 1:43:17 PM  

Cosmic Cowboy: He isn't obligated to make the world a better place. He wasn't even obligated to apologize. His only obligation is to stop doing the bad things he was doing.


his obligation was to not do the bad things he was doing in the first place, but rather to acknowledge the social contract we are all supposed to go by in order to have, in fact, a society.
 
2021-08-05 1:47:24 PM  

mudesi: TDWCom29: log_jammin: "sex-crime"

lol!

What would you call jerking off in front of women who didn't want him to? Maybe it's a harsh term, I'm willing to hear substitutes

If they didn't want him to, they could've said so.


Again, consent isn't always so cut-and-dry easy.

I think a lot of people are really farking tired of this "have your cake and eat it too" notion that women are helpless babies who can't possibly mouth the word "no", even in a power dynamic situation, which in this case there wasn't even one.

There wasn't? How do you know? Again he did this to a lot of women, most of whom he was a lot more famous than. Also I like how you just completely dismiss the power dynamic thing like it doesn't exist. And again, even if some of them were actually okay with it doesn't mean that all of them wereSo it is your contention that they're lying for some reason? What reason would it be? Did any of them gain fame from this?Again, you seem very into defending this for some reason. I'm obviously into talking about it too, but only because defending what he did is so odd to me. I'm trying to get it
 
2021-08-05 1:47:25 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: tfresh: AmbassadorBooze: Clarence Brown: For very complicated reasons, I found myself in conversation with the owner of a comedy club that immediately started employing him, and that person said, "Well, he has a right to make a living."

I was gobsmacked. I still wish I'd said, "No one is denying him the right to dig ditches."

Cancel all places that employ Louis CK.

Problem solved.  Once cancelled, make sure people and places stay cancelled.  Make the cancelled crawl to the teat of trump to survive.  Especially in hollywood.  Just farking cancel the people and make them go to putin or to trump.  Make them beg to eat at the butthole of trump just to survive.  Let the trump hole feed them like a momma bird puking into it's babies mouths.  Have them gobble it all up.

But cancel culture isn't supposed to exist.

🤷

Lets make it exist.  When a person is objectively bad, cancel them.  Have everybody in the party stop selling them stuff.  Stop employing them.  Stop servicing them.  Divorce them.  Have the banking institutions close their accounts.  Stop acknowledging their existance such that if they are walking down the street, you don't see them and you just bowl them right over if they are in your way.  Make them go to Trump and beg to have mamma bird feed them just to survive.  Asking people nicely to keep their limp dicks in their pants has failed.  Time for people to fear taking their flacid cis male white cocks out in front of people without written consent, in triplicate, and with 30 days public notice for comments.

Problem solved.


There's an entire science fiction short story devoted entirely to that concept but I can't seem to remember the title.
 
2021-08-05 1:48:39 PM  

frankb00th: AmbassadorBooze: tfresh: AmbassadorBooze: Clarence Brown: For very complicated reasons, I found myself in conversation with the owner of a comedy club that immediately started employing him, and that person said, "Well, he has a right to make a living."

I was gobsmacked. I still wish I'd said, "No one is denying him the right to dig ditches."

Cancel all places that employ Louis CK.

Problem solved.  Once cancelled, make sure people and places stay cancelled.  Make the cancelled crawl to the teat of trump to survive.  Especially in hollywood.  Just farking cancel the people and make them go to putin or to trump.  Make them beg to eat at the butthole of trump just to survive.  Let the trump hole feed them like a momma bird puking into it's babies mouths.  Have them gobble it all up.

But cancel culture isn't supposed to exist.

🤷

Lets make it exist.  When a person is objectively bad, cancel them.  Have everybody in the party stop selling them stuff.  Stop employing them.  Stop servicing them.  Divorce them.  Have the banking institutions close their accounts.  Stop acknowledging their existance such that if they are walking down the street, you don't see them and you just bowl them right over if they are in your way.  Make them go to Trump and beg to have mamma bird feed them just to survive.  Asking people nicely to keep their limp dicks in their pants has failed.  Time for people to fear taking their flacid cis male white cocks out in front of people without written consent, in triplicate, and with 30 days public notice for comments.

Problem solved.

There's an entire science fiction short story devoted entirely to that concept but I can't seem to remember the title.


So he can't even be unfunny originally
 
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