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(Worth a shot)   Much like Christmas songs, our cocktail culture is stuck and comes from a very short period in drinking history   (punchdrink.com) divider line
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2021-08-04 8:37:01 AM  
The classic cocktail may live and die by simplicity, but I think more can indeed be better: more styles of drinks, more in tune with the locations in which they are made.

Good article and I agree.  Some of the things I see made in cocktail bars or places that have craft cocktails on the menu are incredible and very enjoying.

And more in line with the quote - I recently bought a cocktail book showcasing recipes from various bars across Colorado (most Denver).  I've tried my hand at a few which showed me that many of these type of drinks are easy to flub and/or take a practiced hand for sure.
 
2021-08-04 10:08:32 AM  
If you're drinking cocktails as often as Christmas music is played in December, it's time to admit you have a problem.
 
2021-08-04 10:17:34 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: If you're drinking cocktails as often as Christmas music is played in December, it's time to admit you have a problem.


Christmas music cocktails!
 
2021-08-04 10:17:36 AM  
FTFA: I also want to feel welcomed rather than schooled.

That's also how I want to feel when I read an article, but I'm not sure I did.  Now, maybe I just don't drink enough cocktails out, but the times I have, I've noticed they very thing the writer is extolling; local ingredients and the young woman behind the bar stretching definitions of drinks by using innovative combinations (thought that one mezcal negroni tasted mostly just of mezcal, because... well... mezcal. Still, I like mezcal, so it was enjoyable)

Copperbelly watersnake: If you're drinking cocktails as often as Christmas music is played in December, it's time to admit you have a problem.


This is fark and how DARE you tell me what to do!

/You don't get to decide that I'm a drunk!
//That's a decision between me and God!
 
2021-08-04 10:18:08 AM  

CFitzsimmons: Christmas music cocktails!


so what's in the 12-days of christmas sour?
 
2021-08-04 10:32:23 AM  

mekkab: CFitzsimmons: Christmas music cocktails!

so what's in the 12-days of christmas sour?


Eggnog with a shot of banker's club gin warmed under a radiator. Served in and sucked out of an old stocking.
 
2021-08-04 10:42:26 AM  

Subtonic: mekkab: CFitzsimmons: Christmas music cocktails!

so what's in the 12-days of christmas sour?

Eggnog with a shot of banker's club gin warmed under a radiator. Served in and sucked out of an old stocking.


That's my fetish
 
2021-08-04 11:00:05 AM  

CFitzsimmons: Copperbelly watersnake: If you're drinking cocktails as often as Christmas music is played in December, it's time to admit you have a problem.

Christmas music cocktails!


Threadjack apologies, but have you tried Oak's Korean in Polson yet?
 
2021-08-04 11:00:46 AM  

mekkab: FTFA: I also want to feel welcomed rather than schooled.

That's also how I want to feel when I read an article, but I'm not sure I did.  Now, maybe I just don't drink enough cocktails out, but the times I have, I've noticed they very thing the writer is extolling; local ingredients and the young woman behind the bar stretching definitions of drinks by using innovative combinations (thought that one mezcal negroni tasted mostly just of mezcal, because... well... mezcal. Still, I like mezcal, so it was enjoyable)

Copperbelly watersnake: If you're drinking cocktails as often as Christmas music is played in December, it's time to admit you have a problem.

This is fark and how DARE you tell me what to do!

/You don't get to decide that I'm a drunk!
//That's a decision between me and God!


Yeah. The article has some fine facts about the history of the cocktail and conveys some fine opinions, but it largely is a straw man, complaining about a problem that doesn't exist.

Take for instance, the general complaint that cocktails are stuck in a nostalgic reverence for a short period in history. First, I'd argue that's not particularly true; there's lots of innovation going on out there. Second, to the extent it is true, it's because from roughly 1945-2000 cocktail drinking became increasingly less common and less varied in the kinds of drinks people would consume. But then, third, that moment is defined as going from roughly 1850-1940. That's nearly a century, not a short period, and cocktails didn't much exist for long before that (yes, I know about shrubs and grog and other early mixed drinks).
 
2021-08-04 11:17:02 AM  

CFitzsimmons: Copperbelly watersnake: If you're drinking cocktails as often as Christmas music is played in December, it's time to admit you have a problem.

Christmas music cocktails!


Every time you hear "Baby it's Cold Outside" drink a Bill Cosby!
 
2021-08-04 11:20:30 AM  
So pretty much everything has been mixed with everything else a long time ago. What else is there?
The USDA standard reference database has the nutritional values of pretty much anything you can eat.
100's of 1,000's of man hours studying food. In the later years they were doing whale and walrus for the Inuit because either they were bored or  needed a project to work on to still get a check. Completing the human genome project wasn't a setback because it was finished. I'm just not sure what this article is looking for, Jenkem cocktails? Okay, here is something adventurously new. Best I can do.
Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster | How to Drink
Youtube htxUPNtdfPM
 
2021-08-04 11:30:08 AM  
So, here's the thing.... this article just ignores a whole bunch of shiat or pretends all these changes "don't count" for some reason.  Like the article recognizes Long Island Iced Teas were invented in the 1970's but the article acts like no one's had one since the 1980's?  For fark's sake, the frozen beverage machine (slurpee, icee, whatever) was invented in the 1950's and that's a pretty major change to the cocktail industry.  I know they make frozen drinks in blenders, but it's way less flexible than using the continually churning freezer.  And that's so big I've been to chain bars that are nothing but frozen cocktails (Wet Willie's).
 
2021-08-04 11:52:06 AM  

fasahd: So pretty much everything has been mixed with everything else a long time ago. What else is there?


A Screaming Viking?
 
2021-08-04 12:15:53 PM  

UberDave: fasahd: So pretty much everything has been mixed with everything else a long time ago. What else is there?

A Screaming Viking?


Do you want your cucumber bruised, or not?


I don't mind trying newer cocktails, but your odds of getting something you like at different places will vary wildly. Not everybody is going to stock the same tinctures, bitters, or syrups.
 
2021-08-04 12:51:47 PM  
IDK, there have been some very good 'non-traditional' christmas songs over the years

The Kinks - Father Christmas
Youtube fPPCPqDINEk
 
2021-08-04 1:38:15 PM  
I still haven't found anyone who can make a classic Tricky Dickey Screwdriver.  It is the last ingredient that can be hard to find.
 
2021-08-04 1:40:49 PM  

mike_d85: So, here's the thing.... this article just ignores a whole bunch of shiat or pretends all these changes "don't count" for some reason.  Like the article recognizes Long Island Iced Teas were invented in the 1970's but the article acts like no one's had one since the 1980's?  For fark's sake, the frozen beverage machine (slurpee, icee, whatever) was invented in the 1950's and that's a pretty major change to the cocktail industry.  I know they make frozen drinks in blenders, but it's way less flexible than using the continually churning freezer.  And that's so big I've been to chain bars that are nothing but frozen cocktails (Wet Willie's).


Oh god, you just made me think of Wet Willie's.  Talk about a bar for people who hate drinking...
 
2021-08-04 2:04:54 PM  

BubbaZinetti: I still haven't found anyone who can make a classic Tricky Dickey Screwdriver.  It is the last ingredient that can be hard to find.


What you did there, über alles, what you did there, über alles!
 
2021-08-04 2:33:02 PM  

FLMountainMan: Oh god, you just made me think of Wet Willie's.  Talk about a bar for people who hate drinking...


They don't hate drinking, they hate themselves.  Wet Willie's is the punishment they think they deserve.
 
2021-08-04 2:33:12 PM  

petec: IDK, there have been some very good 'non-traditional' christmas songs over the years

[YouTube video: The Kinks - Father Christmas]


I break out the Bob Rivers over the holidays:

All You Need is Elves Bob Rivers
Youtube PtXEkpI6ioI

Weird Al has a couple, too.
 
2021-08-04 3:05:52 PM  

BubbaZinetti: I still haven't found anyone who can make a classic Tricky Dickey Screwdriver.  It is the last ingredient that can be hard to find.


It's all about what you stir it with.
 
2021-08-04 3:17:34 PM  

BubbaZinetti: I still haven't found anyone who can make a classic Tricky Dickey Screwdriver.  It is the last ingredient that can be hard to find.


Kissinger is still alive, he might know.I'm guessing its eighteen minutes of tape recording

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2021-08-04 3:37:31 PM  

CFitzsimmons: Copperbelly watersnake: If you're drinking cocktails as often as Christmas music is played in December, it's time to admit you have a problem.

Christmas music cocktails!


...and a beer in a tree.
 
2021-08-04 6:04:12 PM  

BubbaZinetti: I still haven't found anyone who can make a classic Tricky Dickey Screwdriver.  It is the last ingredient that can be hard to find.


I don't get this.
 
2021-08-04 7:18:51 PM  
Someone tell the writer to stop trying to make latinx happen.
 
2021-08-04 11:24:41 PM  

Subtonic: mekkab: CFitzsimmons: Christmas music cocktails!

so what's in the 12-days of christmas sour?

Eggnog with a shot of banker's club gin warmed under a radiator. Served in and sucked out of an old stocking.


Falernum kinda tastes like a Christmas candle. Add it and creme de menthe to eggnog. Festive overload. I wouldn't expect that to be good but go nutty.

As for cocktails I like a variety of them but also realize 95% want an inoffensive tasting buzz and nothing else. I'm not going to bother convincing them.
 
2021-08-04 11:45:34 PM  
One of my idiot undergrad bars in the early 00s had $2 32oz long islands. Does that count?
 
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