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2021-08-01 1:40:25 PM  
158 votes:
Good luck debt collectors, I'm behind 7 mortgages.
 
2021-08-01 1:58:13 PM  
19 votes:

Ragin' Asian: UBI would be a nice first step to partially allay hardship.


I'm thinking UFIA is probably more likely.
 
2021-08-01 2:15:06 PM  
9 votes:

Barbecue Bob: 4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.

Pay the fifty in loose asspennies.

 
2021-08-01 2:01:42 PM  
8 votes:

WalkingSedgwick: Nice government you've got there when legislators going on vacation to enjoy their donors' money is more important than doing anything about this.


America is largely controlled by a minority (Republicans) who answer to a vanishingly small donor class of people. It's a failed state.
 
2021-08-01 1:55:22 PM  
8 votes:
UBI would be a nice first step to partially allay hardship.
 
2021-08-01 1:49:32 PM  
6 votes:
Good job GQP, instead of stopping the virus by wearing damned masks last summer, you've condemned many many mortgagors and tenants to be homeless.  Including your own dumb asses.
 
2021-08-01 3:38:38 PM  
5 votes:
HaHa! My house has been PAID OFF for 14 years now...and its resale value really took off!! I never lost work through the plandemic either...in fact, I got 20% bonus "covid" pay. My 401K took off and Im in Fat City now. Also no credit card debt either. Im sitting pretty now. Financially, Im doing very good. Going to retire in a little more than 4 years. Feel really, really bad for you saps hurt by the Commie Cold...but I like being able to sit on ny front porch of my paid for house, drink beer, fart and think about all those saps all depressed wondering how they will survive. It really sucks to be them....or you if youre affected by it.
 
2021-08-01 2:59:02 PM  
5 votes:
It's not like anyone affected did not see this coming, or did not have time to figure out any other options.
 
2021-08-01 2:32:04 PM  
5 votes:
17 million.

There are 17 MILLION people in rented homes that might be homeless as soon as tomorrow.

Does anybody truly grasp how many people that is??

And Congress and Biden just..... let it happen. Cori Bush and progressives slept on the Capitol steps over the weekend to try to get people to care. And Democrats decided to use a unanimous decision vote instead of a simple majority vote to address it?? Goddammit.

And don't give me any bullsh*t about the "rules" or how it "has to be through Congress" or some bullsh*t, when Trump showed us that breaking all the rules and doing whatever you want gets you whatever you want.

When 17 million people are about to be homeless, starving, and dying (DURING A PANDEMIC), and you say that you can't help them because of the "rules," you are a monster. Full stop. You care more about being patted on the head for being a good and obedient soldier for following the rules than you do about people being robbed by the already-rich.

F*ck this country. F*ck anyone and everyone who was in a position of power to help but decided not to.
 
2021-08-01 3:42:59 PM  
4 votes:

Frizbone: HaHa! My house has been PAID OFF for 14 years now...and its resale value really took off!! I never lost work through the plandemic either...in fact, I got 20% bonus "covid" pay. My 401K took off and Im in Fat City now. Also no credit card debt either. Im sitting pretty now. Financially, Im doing very good. Going to retire in a little more than 4 years. Feel really, really bad for you saps hurt by the Commie Cold...but I like being able to sit on ny front porch of my paid for house, drink beer, fart and think about all those saps all depressed wondering how they will survive. It really sucks to be them....or you if youre affected by it.


Bless your heart.
 
2021-08-01 3:39:58 PM  
4 votes:

Frizbone: HaHa! My house has been PAID OFF for 14 years now...and its resale value really took off!! I never lost work through the plandemic either...in fact, I got 20% bonus "covid" pay. My 401K took off and Im in Fat City now. Also no credit card debt either. Im sitting pretty now. Financially, Im doing very good. Going to retire in a little more than 4 years. Feel really, really bad for you saps hurt by the Commie Cold...but I like being able to sit on ny front porch of my paid for house, drink beer, fart and think about all those saps all depressed wondering how they will survive. It really sucks to be them....or you if youre affected by it.


Do you and your supermodel girlfriend own a TV?
 
2021-08-01 2:36:13 PM  
4 votes:

rolladuck: RolfBlitzer: I may be broke, but at least I have no debt.

I'll be there, too about a year after my divorce is finalized.
I'm amazed at how much my wife was draining our bank account.


You know why divorce is so expensive?
Because it's worth it.
 
2021-08-01 2:25:15 PM  
4 votes:

Peki: We're going to have an unhoused crisis the likes of which this country has never seen.


No, The County of Los Angeles just made being homeless illegal.
Problem solved
 
2021-08-01 1:50:55 PM  
4 votes:
Relevant. NSFW language.
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2021-08-01 1:50:33 PM  
4 votes:

WalkingSedgwick: Nice government you've got there when legislators going on vacation to enjoy their donors' money is more important than doing anything about this.


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2021-08-01 3:57:23 PM  
3 votes:

Frizbone: HaHa! My house has been PAID OFF for 14 years now...and its resale value really took off!! I never lost work through the plandemic either...in fact, I got 20% bonus "covid" pay. My 401K took off and Im in Fat City now. Also no credit card debt either. Im sitting pretty now. Financially, Im doing very good. Going to retire in a little more than 4 years. Feel really, really bad for you saps hurt by the Commie Cold...but I like being able to sit on ny front porch of my paid for house, drink beer, fart and think about all those saps all depressed wondering how they will survive. It really sucks to be them....or you if youre affected by it.


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2021-08-01 3:51:44 PM  
3 votes:

Catsaregreen: The Founding Fathers made sure we aren't a democracy (i.e., mob rule). They made damn sure that we're a representative republic - where even tiny-arse states like Delaware get a say. Sorry that you have to pay your rent, I'm sure in Sweden or China no one pays rent - you might want to consider moving there. Also, if we're such a collapsing oligarchy, how come everyone and her mother want to come here?


Did someone teach you how to do an eight point Gish Gallop in a single paragraph or is regurgitating talking points just a skill that came naturally to you?
 
2021-08-01 2:34:13 PM  
3 votes:

bluejeansonfire: 17 million.

There are 17 MILLION people in rented homes that might be homeless as soon as tomorrow.

Does anybody truly grasp how many people that is??

And Congress and Biden just..... let it happen. Cori Bush and progressives slept on the Capitol steps over the weekend to try to get people to care. And Democrats decided to use a unanimous decision vote instead of a simple majority vote to address it?? Goddammit.

And don't give me any bullsh*t about the "rules" or how it "has to be through Congress" or some bullsh*t, when Trump showed us that breaking all the rules and doing whatever you want gets you whatever you want.

When 17 million people are about to be homeless, starving, and dying (DURING A PANDEMIC), and you say that you can't help them because of the "rules," you are a monster. Full stop. You care more about being patted on the head for being a good and obedient soldier for following the rules than you do about people being robbed by the already-rich.

F*ck this country. F*ck anyone and everyone who was in a position of power to help but decided not to.


username checks out.
 
2021-08-01 2:32:08 PM  
3 votes:

NM Volunteer: Good job GQP, instead of stopping the virus by wearing damned masks last summer, you've condemned many many mortgagors and tenants to be homeless.  Including your own dumb asses.


Lol. You really don't understand or pay attention to the news very well for someone who is in this site so often.

Bless your heart.
 
2021-08-01 2:11:47 PM  
3 votes:
Good luck getting renters once this is all over. As it is no one in Los Angeles will rent to some one who can't prove three months income. We're going to have an unhoused crisis the likes of which this country has never seen. And that includes kids. :/
 
2021-08-01 2:05:15 PM  
3 votes:

4seasons85!: RolfBlitzer: I may be broke, but at least I have no debt.

Honestly you may be better off than those who look rich. We don't see peoples finances.  There are a lot of people who are broke who live in nice homes and have nice cars. They've spent themselves into debt with money they don't have to look good.


you know, I've heard this for fifteen years now, and yet I don't see these people getting kicked to the curb and receiving their moral comeuppance for living wildly beyond their means.  I worked to pay off my debts while they get new cars and play on jet skis on the lake.   When does this reckoning actually happen?   Do they get bailouts or something?
 
2021-08-01 1:56:26 PM  
3 votes:
Are the corporations going to be OK?
Or do they need another huge tax cut?
 
2021-08-01 1:54:39 PM  
3 votes:

4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.


That sucks. This whole situation sucks. The thought of 1.8 million families facing eviction is terrifying and sad. It's a cascading effect that will lead to nothing but misery for a lot of people who could be helped with a fraction of what this country spends on useless "wars" and political campaigns. Ugh.
 
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2021-08-01 1:53:41 PM  
3 votes:

4seasons85!: RolfBlitzer: I may be broke, but at least I have no debt.

Honestly you may be better off than those who look rich. We don't see peoples finances.  There are a lot of people who are broke who live in nice homes and have nice cars. They've spent themselves into debt with money they don't have to look good.


Counterpoint, those people deeply in debt are enjoying the homes, chattel property, and lifestyles that being in that debt has afforded them.
 
2021-08-01 1:52:11 PM  
3 votes:

WalkingSedgwick: Nice government you've got there when legislators going on vacation to enjoy their donors' money is more important than doing anything about this.


Some states are even topping that.  Delaware decided that their portal needed an upgrade, beginning 7/28:

https://www.wdel.com/news/delawares-c​o​vid-19-rental-assistance-portal-goes-d​own-for-upgrades-as-eviction-moratoriu​m-expires/article_7900e7d8-efd9-11eb-8​7a3-9bc950559b13.html

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2021-08-01 1:43:42 PM  
3 votes:
I may be broke, but at least I have no debt.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2021-08-01 1:40:08 PM  
3 votes:
Well, we're prepared.  If the housing market crashes like it did starting in 2008 or so we'll be ready to pick up property.
 
2021-08-01 3:15:44 PM  
2 votes:

Badafuco: I'm on my way to go look at a new cabin for rent. I have to move out this month. Luckily I had a first month and deposit saved up.
I'm really hoping I get this place. Zero neighbors, 3 acres of land, running water, a greenhouse and plenty of heat for the winter. And a little closer to town.


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2021-08-01 2:58:39 PM  
2 votes:

Catsaregreen: WalkingSedgwick: Fonaibung: WalkingSedgwick: Nice government you've got there when legislators going on vacation to enjoy their donors' money is more important than doing anything about this.

America is largely controlled by a minority (Republicans) who answer to a vanishingly small donor class of people. It's a failed state.

This isn't an R vs D issue. The Biden White House didn't suggest Congress do something until it was too late to do anything. Then, Pelosi's House went on vacation to allow its members to enjoy their donors' money.

It goes without saying that the Senate GOP would have vetoed any aid package in any case, and that Senate Democrats would be happy to do nothing, as the preservation of the fillibuster-veto is of paramount importance to each Senator's ability to raise money and avoid accountability.

America is a collapsing oligarchy that pretends to be a democracy.  It has has two fake parties that support essentially the same policies in private and blame each other for obstructing policies that the parties claim to support in public but don't actually have any intention of enacting.

The Founding Fathers made sure we aren't a democracy (i.e., mob rule). They made damn sure that we're a representative republic - where even tiny-arse states like Delaware get a say. Sorry that you have to pay your rent, I'm sure in Sweden or China no one pays rent - you might want to consider moving there. Also, if we're such a collapsing oligarchy, how come everyone and her mother want to come here?


Because the value of our currency hasn't tanked yet?  Because reputations take time to spread?  Because however bad it gets there's someplace worse?
 
2021-08-01 2:33:08 PM  
2 votes:

yet_another_wumpus: Fonaibung: WalkingSedgwick: Nice government you've got there when legislators going on vacation to enjoy their donors' money is more important than doing anything about this.

America is largely controlled by a minority (Republicans) who answer to a vanishingly small donor class of people. It's a failed state.

Do you know who your state legislators are?  In Maryland, the state legislators pass plenty of shockingly donor biased bills over and over, despite being completely controlled by the Democrats.  And if you haven't a clue what they voted on, why not take money from the highest bidder?

Moved to New York (Rochester).  Seems like an even worse Democratic party, although good luck finding a better Republican party (especially now) to even compete with a horrible Democratic party (there is a scary movement among Q-anon types to take direct control of the local parties and make them even worse).

Back in the 1990s, one of the biggest things the rightwing was interested was in de-federalizing (see Ron Paul and other neo-confederates).  Mostly because it is easier to to corrupt each state legislature than Congress, if only thanks to the cost of running for the respective offices.  Other reasons was that in the 1990s the total wingnuts were capturing state governments, but hadn't quite moved onto the Federal Government.  I'm not sure I've heard that line of bullshaite since Dubya took over, so maybe the cost of each statehouse has gone up.

/nothing will change until the man on the street knows the voting record  of his state legislators
//also has to care
///I'm typically using some sort of voting guide, so guilty as well


What's to know? The Republican Party is selling us down river and the Machins and Sinemas of the world are in on it
 
2021-08-01 2:14:22 PM  
2 votes:
I thought most people won't be hit by foreclosures due to the gov mandating that balances be added to the back end of the loan?
 
2021-08-01 2:05:25 PM  
2 votes:

farkmedown: 4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.

Back to paper checks?


There was no notice given about changes to rent payment. They didn't mention any fees. There was no option stated for using checks. So I wouldn't even know where to give it if I had a check. It was literally just a sudden thing. They got a chewing out via voicemail and I am talking to them first thing tomorrow.
 
2021-08-01 2:04:36 PM  
2 votes:

4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.


Pay the fifty in loose pennies.
 
2021-08-01 2:00:02 PM  
2 votes:

4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.


See if they accept money orders.  It's an extra step but it's better than a $50 surcharge
 
2021-08-01 1:53:24 PM  
2 votes:

TWX: Well, we're prepared.  If the housing market crashes like it did starting in 2008 or so we'll be ready to pick up property.


IF.  If there were certainties involved, I'd be cashing out my house now, renting on the downswing, then buying multiple homes at the bottom.   But there's too much population pressure for a huge correction, and I need a place to live, so I'm going to miss out on my chance to get into the landlord game.
 
2021-08-01 10:08:48 PM  
1 vote:

Barbecue Bob: 4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.

Pay the fifty in loose pennies.


I should scroll down before commenting
 
2021-08-01 10:06:10 PM  
1 vote:

4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.


send them $50 in ass-pennies so we can read about you on Fark.
 
2021-08-01 8:42:48 PM  
1 vote:

lolmao500: Frizbone: HaHa! My house has been PAID OFF for 14 years now...and its resale value really took off!! I never lost work through the plandemic either...in fact, I got 20% bonus "covid" pay. My 401K took off and Im in Fat City now. Also no credit card debt either. Im sitting pretty now. Financially, Im doing very good. Going to retire in a little more than 4 years. Feel really, really bad for you saps hurt by the Commie Cold...but I like being able to sit on ny front porch of my paid for house, drink beer, fart and think about all those saps all depressed wondering how they will survive. It really sucks to be them....or you if youre affected by it.

Good for you boomer


Well...THANK YOU! and yes...Im a Boomer
/Also owned a mint condition 1959 Chevy Impala convertible that I only paid $1800 cash for...no payments
// Paid $78,000 for my house...now valued over $500,000
///Got grandfathered into electrician and plumbers licenses without having to sit in classrooms and take tests.
///Get to retire with a FULL, grandfathered pension and my 401k...will be set for life making more (125% more)  in retirement than working. Feel really bad for those young millennials hired after 2001 that got shut off from the goodies I get.
 
2021-08-01 6:31:16 PM  
1 vote:
My 20 year old son signed the paperwork to buy his first house in Hampton Roads on Friday. All the doom, gloom and sky-is-falling talk just doesn't have to be true. Best of luck to you all.
 
2021-08-01 4:59:48 PM  
1 vote:

bluejeansonfire: 17 million.

There are 17 MILLION people in rented homes that might be homeless as soon as tomorrow.

Does anybody truly grasp how many people that is??

And Congress and Biden just..... let it happen. Cori Bush and progressives slept on the Capitol steps over the weekend to try to get people to care. And Democrats decided to use a unanimous decision vote instead of a simple majority vote to address it?? Goddammit.

And don't give me any bullsh*t about the "rules" or how it "has to be through Congress" or some bullsh*t, when Trump showed us that breaking all the rules and doing whatever you want gets you whatever you want.

When 17 million people are about to be homeless, starving, and dying (DURING A PANDEMIC), and you say that you can't help them because of the "rules," you are a monster. Full stop. You care more about being patted on the head for being a good and obedient soldier for following the rules than you do about people being robbed by the already-rich.

F*ck this country. F*ck anyone and everyone who was in a position of power to help but decided not to.


Hope you got your guns, this is gonna get bad. Parents with children get quite unpredictable when they get kicked in the street.
 
2021-08-01 4:34:32 PM  
1 vote:

4seasons85!: Fara Clark: 4seasons85!: thealgorerhythm: 4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.
Are you capable of paying your rent with money? Serious question, because my suggestion sounds dickish if you can't.
I just have a recurring electronic payment sent from my bank on a monthly basis 10 days before it's due. It's a free service of my bank because it's cheaper to them than processing checks.
I can do this because I have a reliable paycheck and the price doesn't change. YMMV.
Yes I am fortunate that I can afford to pay every month.  My account previously had automatic withdrawal set up through the apartment portal. There was no charge. So it went directly through my bank account.  This new system requires a card (which is possible they aren't fully set up yet since it's a new system) and there's no option to pay direct from my bank account.  I looked into the automatic payment setup and it uses the card and therefore also has a fee. I've never had to set up with my bank, the company would just take it from my account so long as they had my account and routing number. There is no option here for that.
If I remember correctly, when you use a CC, the merchant pays the processing fees. When you use a debt card, your bank (you) pay the transaction fee. But neither of those fees are $50, even when they are a % of the transaction they generally capped at a max amount.
Yeah it's a 3.5%(?) processing fee which with m ...


Because I despise these kinds of conversations, I always remember that it was the well-off that made all this happen. If some money-minded parties weren't always so interested in gouging others, we wouldn't even have stuff like ATMs and credit lines and multiple levels of loans, and we wouldn't have a bunch of people who are always trapped by somebody taking a cut out of their money, so that third parties can take another cut, and then somebody else can take another cut, for your convenience, and before you know, it, everybody on earth is getting fed except you--you lost your little house.

But it wasn't people like me who did this. I don't know a thing about it. I don't even use credit unless I have to. I don't know about farking stocks, or how to roll over funds, or how to buy three houses and pay them all off by renting them out for AirBnbs. I'm not interested in gouging people to get more than my share, or improving my credit score, or finding a loophole so that I can get rich quick.

You know who knows about these things? Farkers. The loving libs who want the best for everyone, but especially for themselves. they know all about mortgage rates, and how to make your 401K produce, and how to flip that house, and how to play with their taxes so that they get to take a lot, but pay not so much for it. They know how to suck money out of the system to benefit themselves, and not pay for it.
They WANTED all this shiat--all the credit, and all the weaselwords, and all the games, and all the rush, of being little kings, while still running their personal lives like Donald Trump. So now we ALL can take advantage of all the things that the wonderful businesspeople put into our lives, whether we wanted it or not.
Somebody wanted it though, and it looked a lot like well-off, educated, snooty first-world posers. It's not even a thing if you're poor. Not if you're smart.
Sounds like a personal problem.
 
2021-08-01 4:06:12 PM  
1 vote:

lolmao500: bluejeansonfire: 17 million.

There are 17 MILLION people in rented homes that might be homeless as soon as tomorrow.

Does anybody truly grasp how many people that is??

And Congress and Biden just..... let it happen. Cori Bush and progressives slept on the Capitol steps over the weekend to try to get people to care. And Democrats decided to use a unanimous decision vote instead of a simple majority vote to address it?? Goddammit.

And don't give me any bullsh*t about the "rules" or how it "has to be through Congress" or some bullsh*t, when Trump showed us that breaking all the rules and doing whatever you want gets you whatever you want.

When 17 million people are about to be homeless, starving, and dying (DURING A PANDEMIC), and you say that you can't help them because of the "rules," you are a monster. Full stop. You care more about being patted on the head for being a good and obedient soldier for following the rules than you do about people being robbed by the already-rich.

F*ck this country. F*ck anyone and everyone who was in a position of power to help but decided not to.

They should march on DC and wall street and burn them to the farking ground.


Already tried that back in January.
 
2021-08-01 4:01:06 PM  
1 vote:
Have we talked about how Nancy Pelosi's husband stands to make a mint from the eviction crisis?
 
2021-08-01 3:09:36 PM  
1 vote:

Barbecue Bob: 4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.

Pay the fifty in loose pennies.


No. Don't ever do this. This only screws the minimum wage earning person who has to bear the brunt of the decisions made by management.
 
2021-08-01 3:01:18 PM  
1 vote:
I'm sympathetic but how long can this go on? Then again we gave out free money to all kinds of businesses that didn't need it and said "don't worry about paying  that back."

Do landlords  really have that many prospective renters waiting that they want to boot the current ones?
 
2021-08-01 2:56:47 PM  
1 vote:

TWX: Well, we're prepared.  If the housing market crashes like it did starting in 2008 or so we'll be ready to pick up property.


Is it you average billionaire rat feeding on the misfortune of others?
 
2021-08-01 2:33:13 PM  
1 vote:

Peki: Good luck getting renters once this is all over. As it is no one in Los Angeles will rent to some one who can't prove three months income. We're going to have an unhoused crisis the likes of which this country has never seen. And that includes kids. :/


California's homelessness crisis is entirely made in California. It's not mental illness or addiction, it's the deliberate under-construction of housing units in order to gift existing property owners with ever rising property values.
 
2021-08-01 2:25:37 PM  
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Fonaibung: WalkingSedgwick: Nice government you've got there when legislators going on vacation to enjoy their donors' money is more important than doing anything about this.

America is largely controlled by a minority (Republicans) who answer to a vanishingly small donor class of people. It's a failed state.


This isn't an R vs D issue. The Biden White House didn't suggest Congress do something until it was too late to do anything. Then, Pelosi's House went on vacation to allow its members to enjoy their donors' money.

It goes without saying that the Senate GOP would have vetoed any aid package in any case, and that Senate Democrats would be happy to do nothing, as the preservation of the fillibuster-veto is of paramount importance to each Senator's ability to raise money and avoid accountability.

America is a collapsing oligarchy that pretends to be a democracy.  It has has two fake parties that support essentially the same policies in private and blame each other for obstructing policies that the parties claim to support in public but don't actually have any intention of enacting.
 
2021-08-01 2:23:50 PM  
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Fonaibung: WalkingSedgwick: Nice government you've got there when legislators going on vacation to enjoy their donors' money is more important than doing anything about this.

America is largely controlled by a minority (Republicans) who answer to a vanishingly small donor class of people. It's a failed state.


Do you know who your state legislators are?  In Maryland, the state legislators pass plenty of shockingly donor biased bills over and over, despite being completely controlled by the Democrats.  And if you haven't a clue what they voted on, why not take money from the highest bidder?

Moved to New York (Rochester).  Seems like an even worse Democratic party, although good luck finding a better Republican party (especially now) to even compete with a horrible Democratic party (there is a scary movement among Q-anon types to take direct control of the local parties and make them even worse).

Back in the 1990s, one of the biggest things the rightwing was interested was in de-federalizing (see Ron Paul and other neo-confederates).  Mostly because it is easier to to corrupt each state legislature than Congress, if only thanks to the cost of running for the respective offices.  Other reasons was that in the 1990s the total wingnuts were capturing state governments, but hadn't quite moved onto the Federal Government.  I'm not sure I've heard that line of bullshaite since Dubya took over, so maybe the cost of each statehouse has gone up.

/nothing will change until the man on the street knows the voting record  of his state legislators
//also has to care
///I'm typically using some sort of voting guide, so guilty as well
 
2021-08-01 2:15:13 PM  
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munko: Snapper Carr: 4seasons85!: My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.

See if they accept money orders.  It's an extra step but it's better than a $50 surcharge

that's how I pay mine.  It's 79 cents at a Wally World near you. The rest of my bills I pay online with my Wally World debit card.  I bypass banks.  they suck you dry.


Credit unions are generally better than banks. . . .
 
2021-08-01 2:07:29 PM  
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dbaggins: 4seasons85!: RolfBlitzer: I may be broke, but at least I have no debt.

Honestly you may be better off than those who look rich. We don't see peoples finances.  There are a lot of people who are broke who live in nice homes and have nice cars. They've spent themselves into debt with money they don't have to look good.

you know, I've heard this for fifteen years now, and yet I don't see these people getting kicked to the curb and receiving their moral comeuppance for living wildly beyond their means.  I worked to pay off my debts while they get new cars and play on jet skis on the lake.   When does this reckoning actually happen?   Do they get bailouts or something?


Fair point. I don't know.
 
2021-08-01 2:02:53 PM  
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That reminds me, rent is due.

I really lucked out being a frontline worker. In fact, I pulled in a ton of overtime. I feel bad for people suffering over this. It's going to go to hell and the wrong people are going to suffer.
 
2021-08-01 1:56:59 PM  
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TWX: Well, we're prepared.  If the housing market crashes like it did starting in 2008 or so we'll be ready to pick up property.


Or we could let it crash hard and maybe outlaw companies buying. And people might finely be able to buy homes.
 
2021-08-01 1:47:11 PM  
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My fun surprise this morning paying rent was discovering a charge to pay with debit card. We were just bought out by another company less than five days ago. My previous company either charged us $5 to use the card or nothing if signed up for automatically withdrawal. The new company didn't mention any changes to the rent system. Today to pay my rent, with no other option to pay by check, I had to pay an additional $50 to use the online services. So basically it's going to cost me an additional $50 dollars every month to pay rent. The level of greed with rent and houses right now is insane.
 
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