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(Pew Research)   Democrats overwhelmingly think voting is a fundamental right. Republicans think voting is a privilege to be handed out to the deserving   (pewresearch.org) divider line
    More: Obvious, United States, California, Asian American, Hawaii, White American, Two-thirds of Republicans, Plurality voting system, voting access  
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2021-08-01 1:37:27 PM  
Republicans want us to return to the original group allowed to vote: white, land-owning males
 
2021-08-01 1:37:45 PM  

Hyjamon: puffy999: Mail-in voting would be as popular with red states as it is with conservatives in blue states. Donald Trump would be as irrelevant as Bush the Lesser after he left office...

GA used to have no-excuse absentee voting...until this year.  Not sure if it is enacted law yet, but pretty confident the bill passed.  Google-fu brings up nothing about its status.

Moving on to my wife's recent (and last) visit to her Trumpy folks.  Her mother refused to believe that no-excuse absentee voting was not going to be an option next time.  She acted as if my wife spoke heresy.

A lot of these voting integrity laws are gonna bite a lot of scooter-based R voters.


They'll just blame the Democrats. No Republican would betray them like that.
 
2021-08-01 1:38:10 PM  

Surrender your boo-tah: I could fall on either side. If you ask me if I think voting is a fundamental right, and leave it at that, I'll say yes. But I also believe that voting should be limited to US citizens. Also I believe we need to make sure that every citizen can easily vote, and know their vote will be secure and counted. And we should be bending over backwards to make sure that happens.


Voting in the United States is limited to US citizens.
 
2021-08-01 1:39:09 PM  

Tarl3k: Kubo: Fine. Make voting contingent on passing a Constitutional rights exam.

I don't think they'll like who gets to vote.

So you're saying that there should be some kind of test, maybe on their...I dunno, literacy, to see who can vote?

It's not okay when shiatheads did it, so it's not okay when anybody else does it either.


Literacy =/= Constitutional knowledge.
 
2021-08-01 1:39:25 PM  

Surrender your boo-tah: I could fall on either side. If you ask me if I think voting is a fundamental right, and leave it at that, I'll say yes. But I also believe that voting should be limited to US citizens. Also I believe we need to make sure that every citizen can easily vote, and know their vote will be secure and counted. And we should be bending over backwards to make sure that happens.


Currently, it is illegal (by statute, not the constitution) for non-citizens to vote for federal offices. That seems fine, but you seem adamant about this, and I'm wondering would it actually be harmful if the law were changed to allow green card holders to vote as well for example?
 
2021-08-01 1:42:44 PM  
Voting should be available to anyone over 18.  No ids. Just get a purple thumb like we did in Afghanistan and the Iraq, such like.  Then, spread a rumor that the purple ink destroys you God Gene and it's the mark of the beast.
 
2021-08-01 1:44:15 PM  

Kubo: Tarl3k: Kubo: Fine. Make voting contingent on passing a Constitutional rights exam.

I don't think they'll like who gets to vote.

So you're saying that there should be some kind of test, maybe on their...I dunno, literacy, to see who can vote?

It's not okay when shiatheads did it, so it's not okay when anybody else does it either.

Literacy =/= Constitutional knowledge.


But if you're forced to buy the "Constitution Books on Tape", that'd be a poll tax.
 
2021-08-01 1:50:25 PM  

AtomPeepers: Republicans think voting is for whites ONLY. Wealthy white male landowners. Like the founding fathers intended to maintain their power over the prisoners with jobs.


Slaves had 100% employment.
 
2021-08-01 1:53:59 PM  

Kubo: Tarl3k: Kubo: Fine. Make voting contingent on passing a Constitutional rights exam.

I don't think they'll like who gets to vote.

So you're saying that there should be some kind of test, maybe on their...I dunno, literacy, to see who can vote?

It's not okay when shiatheads did it, so it's not okay when anybody else does it either.

Literacy =/= Constitutional knowledge.


Who cares? You're talking about qualifying voting.

That's illegal  -- it's easy to use it to suppress votes.

It's Un-American. It's anti-democratic.

You still pay taxes. So, you are still entitled to have an opinion.
 
2021-08-01 1:56:20 PM  

RasIanI: You still pay taxes. So, you are still entitled to have an opinion.


Voting should not be contingent upon paying taxes.
 
2021-08-01 1:57:23 PM  

mrshowrules: Metastatic Capricorn: [Fark user image 850x232]

Same type of asshole who probably loses his shiat when same-sex couples adopt.


Manufactured outrage.
 
2021-08-01 2:00:51 PM  

Surrender your boo-tah: I could fall on either side. If you ask me if I think voting is a fundamental right, and leave it at that, I'll say yes. But I also believe that voting should be limited to US citizens. Also I believe we need to make sure that every citizen can easily vote, and know their vote will be secure and counted. And we should be bending over backwards to make sure that happens.


Wait which side is saying that their vote should not be secure and/or counted?
 
2021-08-01 2:01:01 PM  

rolladuck: Metastatic Capricorn: [Fark user image 850x232]

I, a divorced, childless man with a dog and a cat, want well-funded, safe and functional schools, because I don't want to spend my twilight years relying on the cast of Idiocracy.
My opponents ARE the cast of Idiocracy.


The President in Idiocracy acknowledged that there actually was a crisis affecting America and brought in the most intelligent man in America to help him fix that crisis.

He was easily a better president than the entire Republican Party.
 
2021-08-01 2:02:18 PM  

TWX: If government wants more kids then government needs to prioritize taxes and programmes to make this possible.


Simply building more housing--something that can be allowed at a local level--would help at least as much as federal-level supports.

The cost of housing large enough to raise children has exploded entirely because local governments have made it illegal (through zoning rules) to build enough housing to keep up with population growth. The responsibility for this lies with blue city governments' intentional choice to enable NIMBYs to give themselves ever accelerating increases in property prices by choking off the housing supply.
 
2021-08-01 2:02:50 PM  
The more right-wing among them will claim there's no affirmative right to vote in the constitution, because it only says that the right shall not be infringed but never specifically says the right exists.

So tell them the 2nd amendment says the same thing and watch their heads asplode.
 
2021-08-01 2:06:50 PM  

Surrender your boo-tah: I could fall on either side. If you ask me if I think voting is a fundamental right, and leave it at that, I'll say yes. But I also believe that voting should be limited to US citizens. Also I believe we need to make sure that every citizen can easily vote, and know their vote will be secure and counted. And we should be bending over backwards to make sure that happens.


...it IS limited to US citizens. You don't have to believe it should be. It always was.
 
2021-08-01 2:09:53 PM  

RasIanI: Wouldn't it be great if there was a source of reference to settle the issue?

Like the 15th Amendment to the US Constitution....


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2021-08-01 2:10:27 PM  
You can lead a Republican to knowledge, but you can't make them think.

/voting is a fundamental right of citizens in a Democracy.  Otherwise, not all men humans are created equal, are they?
 
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