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(CNN)   The good news: drought-stricken Western states finally getting some rain. The bad news: monsoon-level rains. As in mudslides, flooding, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria   (cnn.com) divider line
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TWX
2021-08-01 11:25:47 AM  

desertfool: dryknife: Flincher: dryknife: Flincher: Really wish i could move to New Mexico. Love that state.

The Land of Entrapment

I dunno man. I've had the unfortunate honor of living in Arkansas and....you have more than enough problems there.

I meant it in a good way meaning that that it puts a spell on you.
I lived in NM for several years and it becomes a part of you. You get addicted to green chiles and the aroma of piñon.

Arkansas sucks, stay away. Sara Sanders Huckabee will continue ruining life here soon.

Way back in college I drove from Tucson to Albuquerque to visit a friend. I took a shortcut and wound up driving through Hatch during the chile festival. The entire area smelled like heaven with the roasting chiles.


So you popped a hatch and the smell wafted over you?
 
2021-08-01 11:26:09 AM  
I live in Denver and I enjoyed seeing the rain. I'm on the seventh floor of my apartment building so I doubt if flooding will affect me. :)

Yep, it's the colorado mantra. "We need the rain".
 
2021-08-01 11:32:35 AM  

dryknife: Flincher: dryknife: Flincher: Really wish i could move to New Mexico. Love that state.

The Land of Entrapment

I dunno man. I've had the unfortunate honor of living in Arkansas and....you have more than enough problems there.

I meant it in a good way meaning that that it puts a spell on you.
I lived in NM for several years and it becomes a part of you. You get addicted to green chiles and the aroma of piñon.

Arkansas sucks, stay away. Sara Sanders Huckabee will continue ruining life here soon.


Stay away from Arkansas? Nah, great place to visit although it looks like life must be hell on earth. Love the Deltas.
 
2021-08-01 11:34:59 AM  

Enigmamf: 137 Is An Excellent Time: Maybe y'all shoul contemplate moving where Mother Nature isn't trying to smite you so god damned always?

Big disasters make the news, but the day to day truth is that insured losses are lower in the US west than most of the country.


Well how many claims do those insurance companies wiggle out of?

What's their disaster-per-capita?
 
2021-08-01 11:36:27 AM  
Wah wah there no water
Wah wah there too much water


You guys are never happy
 
2021-08-01 11:40:33 AM  

The Brains: Stay away from Arkansas? Nah, great place to visit although it looks like life must be hell on earth. Love the Deltas.


It's for people who can't even afford a real Kansas.
 
2021-08-01 11:53:59 AM  
Desert kids love rain. They'll go outside in it, run around screaming and soaked to the bone.

They're like pop rocks.
 
2021-08-01 11:58:13 AM  
and none for Gretchen Wieners the west coast, bye
 
2021-08-01 12:00:06 PM  

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2021-08-01 12:02:46 PM  
you know those moments in the sims where you... "overcorrect for conditions"?

This is the result.
You monster.
 
2021-08-01 12:04:24 PM  
The rain we're getting in western Montana does raise the humidity, which helps the fire crews, but it rarely reaches the ground.
The lightning does reach the ground, and with eight major fires within 50 miles of me, it's not helping.
I am nervously awaiting a "wind event" to come through the region.
 
TWX
2021-08-01 12:14:46 PM  

mrparks: Desert kids love rain. They'll go outside in it, run around screaming and soaked to the bone.

They're like pop rocks.


It's usually warm and it's novel.

My brother and I used to go walk around with fishing poles, casting into the gutters.  no hooks, but it was fun to pretend.
 
2021-08-01 12:19:19 PM  

dildo tontine: I love the gully washers we are getting but the mudslides in Glenwood Canyon are not awesome. I have to drive back and forth between Grand Junction and Denver often for work and adding 2 and a half hours to the drive suck balls. We will complain a bit but we will gladly take the water.


Yep. And those mud/rock slides took out several chunks of the most expensive section of Interstate ever built.
Great planning. Gotta love those highway engineers who think nature ends at curbside.
 
2021-08-01 12:24:29 PM  

dennysgod: Wah wah there no water
Wah wah there too much water


You guys are never happy


Yeah, kinda like every farmer. I get it.  But SC Utah was in the driest known period since 1500 AD. ZERO water in the streams, much less the reservoirs. Fish, mammals, and migrating birds dying everywhere. Prickly pear cactus dead from drought. And impoverished landscape. And then, overnight, and to late for wildflower blooms or seasonal reproduction rates, the biggest downpours I've seen in 30-plus years living here.

So the adjustment's a bit rough.
 
2021-08-01 12:29:05 PM  

BonoboJeezus: dildo tontine: I love the gully washers we are getting but the mudslides in Glenwood Canyon are not awesome. I have to drive back and forth between Grand Junction and Denver often for work and adding 2 and a half hours to the drive suck balls. We will complain a bit but we will gladly take the water.

Yep. And those mud/rock slides took out several chunks of the most expensive section of Interstate ever built.
Great planning. Gotta love those highway engineers who think nature ends at curbside.


A bit more than 'several chunks':
Raw helo video here, 20 minutes long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=liBcn-​AZLMU
 
2021-08-01 12:32:12 PM  
Here in Vegas, we're supposed to have a short monsoon season. And we're getting it! Excite.
 
2021-08-01 12:33:21 PM  

BonoboJeezus: dildo tontine: I love the gully washers we are getting but the mudslides in Glenwood Canyon are not awesome. I have to drive back and forth between Grand Junction and Denver often for work and adding 2 and a half hours to the drive suck balls. We will complain a bit but we will gladly take the water.

Yep. And those mud/rock slides took out several chunks of the most expensive section of Interstate ever built.
Great planning. Gotta love those highway engineers who think nature ends at curbside.


The burn scars are the issue with many of the mud and rock slides out here.  Glenwood Canyon in particular is having problems because of the scar from the Grizzly Creek fire of last year.  From your other comment about being in Utah you probably already know that but I went ahead and posted so others understand the impact one fire can have for years after.
 
2021-08-01 12:34:50 PM  

dryknife: Flincher: Really wish i could move to New Mexico. Love that state.

The Land of Entrapment


I thought it was civil forfeiture.
 
2021-08-01 12:36:35 PM  

jso2897: The Brains: Stay away from Arkansas? Nah, great place to visit although it looks like life must be hell on earth. Love the Deltas.

It's for people who can't even afford a real Kansas.

Most

of Arkansas does suck. I've been all over the state and Fayetteville is about as good as it gets.
 
TWX
2021-08-01 12:39:18 PM  

Resident Muslim: dryknife: Flincher: Really wish i could move to New Mexico. Love that state.

The Land of Entrapment

I thought it was civil forfeiture.


I think that's a predominately Albuquerque phenomenon.
 
2021-08-01 12:55:45 PM  

skiinstructor: Here in the socal mountains we had a heckuva monsoon yesterday, torrential rain, thunderbolt and lightning (very very frightening) 3 inches of rain in places. Ill take all we can get...


I was in an isolated cabin in the mountains of Temecula yesterday and saw the monsoons in the distance. It was actually quite incredible. Luckily for me it didn't reach my area and I was able to continue sunbathing naked in peace.
 
2021-08-01 1:04:39 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: Maybe y'all shoul contemplate moving where Mother Nature isn't trying to smite you so god damned always?


Um, we did.

Unlike you, I haven't forgotten that regular blizzards, tornados, flooding, hurricanes, sandstorms, 100% humidity and encounters with Republicans make civilized life nigh impossible.

The weather and geological events we experience in SoCal are a minor inconvenience compared with the Stockholm syndrome the rest of the country is living with.
 
2021-08-01 1:11:03 PM  
Well, if Nevada's going to end up with monsoons, that's a liveable environment for most of the plant and animal life around here. Hell, it might keep the people in water, too.
 
2021-08-01 1:13:54 PM  
BTW, there is a regular monsoon season in Arizona. The term doesn't exactly refer to the intensity of the phenomenon, but its seasonal regularity. It is necessary for the survival of the native ecosystems. The news is typically hysterical about strong storms. I would not necessarily believe that the storms are more intense than others. Strong floods, for example, are very dangerous in the area, and carve the incredible slot canyons, and make grasslands and forests possible.
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2021-08-01 1:17:18 PM  

Unsung_Hero: I'm a bit further north.  Record-level rain here, I believe... but only on a seasonal scale, we're not getting it all at once.  Presumably it's helping wash all that west-coast smoke out of the air (because Canada's west coast has 'winter' and "OMFG it's all on fire!" seasons.  The fancy new AGW-approved heat dome didn't help, I'm sure.

I'm not keen on all this apocalypse weather, even though it has yet to do much where I live beyond occasionally hit us with an Arctic air mass to make winter that much worse.


Over 30 years ago, when the University Science Center I worked at was modeling this new fangled thing called global warming, there were different models, but all agreed that the weather would get really changeable in extreme and "violent" ways.

And here we are.  :(
 
2021-08-01 1:21:30 PM  

StatelyGreekAutomaton: Peach_Fuz: When does fire season start out there?

Generally when rain season ends.


No, you need to give it a couple days to dry out.
 
2021-08-01 1:21:40 PM  

Tarl3k: Colorado here...we've actually had a pretty wet summer.  Had rain the last few days, so it's nice.  Elevation is awesome. :)


Same here in Austin. We slipped into regular Summer last week, with some hot dry days, but yesterday, rain was all around us at disc golf.
Got wet.
In August.

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2021-08-01 1:23:05 PM  

Chabash: leeto2: Meh. Nothing going on in my part of Oregon. Got a bit of rain yesterday, certainly not monsoon level.

If it puts out the fires in southern/eastern Oregon, a couple of mudslides out in the sticks is worth it.

The American west, not the pacific northwest. I noticed that a sprinkling had shifted around the dust on my car yesterday.


Yeah, the rain looks like it just nips the eastern edge of Oregon. Nowhere near the big fires. although it might cover some of the eastern Washington ones. The Willamette Valley's forecast has been cycling between zero rainfall and a few tenths of a mm ... for the next two weeks.
 
2021-08-01 1:23:54 PM  

Gyrfalcon: StatelyGreekAutomaton: Peach_Fuz: When does fire season start out there?

Generally when rain season ends.

No, you need to give it a couple days to dry out.


That's spring.

As in spring into action because things are about to get farked.
 
2021-08-01 1:35:19 PM  

The Brains: Enigmamf: 137 Is An Excellent Time: Maybe y'all shoul contemplate moving where Mother Nature isn't trying to smite you so god damned always?

Big disasters make the news, but the day to day truth is that insured losses are lower in the US west than most of the country.

Well how many claims do those insurance companies wiggle out of?

What's their disaster-per-capita?


Why would you assume it's easier to avoid claims in one region than another?
 
2021-08-01 2:20:59 PM  

ng2810: 137 Is An Excellent Time: Maybe y'all shoul contemplate moving where Mother Nature isn't trying to smite you so god damned always?

Um, we did.

Unlike you, I haven't forgotten that regular blizzards, tornados, flooding, hurricanes, sandstorms, 100% humidity and encounters with Republicans make civilized life nigh impossible.

The weather and geological events we experience in SoCal are a minor inconvenience compared with the Stockholm syndrome the rest of the country is living with.


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2021-08-01 2:24:34 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: Unsung_Hero: I'm a bit further north.  Record-level rain here, I believe... but only on a seasonal scale, we're not getting it all at once.  Presumably it's helping wash all that west-coast smoke out of the air (because Canada's west coast has 'winter' and "OMFG it's all on fire!" seasons.  The fancy new AGW-approved heat dome didn't help, I'm sure.

I'm not keen on all this apocalypse weather, even though it has yet to do much where I live beyond occasionally hit us with an Arctic air mass to make winter that much worse.

Over 30 years ago, when the University Science Center I worked at was modeling this new fangled thing called global warming, there were different models, but all agreed that the weather would get really changeable in extreme and "violent" ways.

And here we are.  :(


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2021-08-01 2:25:59 PM  
Maybe the mud slides will extinguish the wild fires?
 
2021-08-01 2:29:00 PM  

BonoboJeezus: dildo tontine: I love the gully washers we are getting but the mudslides in Glenwood Canyon are not awesome. I have to drive back and forth between Grand Junction and Denver often for work and adding 2 and a half hours to the drive suck balls. We will complain a bit but we will gladly take the water.

Yep. And those mud/rock slides took out several chunks of the most expensive section of Interstate ever built.
Great planning. Gotta love those highway engineers who think nature ends at curbside.


Some history:

The final design included 40 bridges and viaducts, three additional tunnel bores (two were completed before construction was stopped in the 1960s) and 15 miles (24 km) of retaining walls for a stretch of freeway 12 miles (19 km) long. The project was further complicated by the need to build the four-lane freeway without disturbing the operations of the railroad. This required using special and coordinated blasting techniques. Engineers designed two separate tracks for the highway, one elevated above the other, to minimize the footprint in the canyon. The final design was praised for its environmental sensitivity. A Denver architect who helped design the freeway proclaimed, "Most of the people in western Colorado see it as having preserved the canyon." He further stated, "I think pieces of the highway elevate to the standard of public art."

/but I'm sure your engineering acumen would have led to a vast improvement
 
2021-08-01 4:41:41 PM  
We're doing all right. Covid is under control, for now anyway, and we've been getting rain here and there, slap up against the continental divide. We're parched, but not as parched as most places around us.
Even the smoke cleared out a little. You can start thinking that the world isn't coming to an end, and then you go, Oh wait, yes it is.

And if you don't think that, wake the fark up.
 
2021-08-01 4:49:22 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: BonoboJeezus: dildo tontine: I love the gully washers we are getting but the mudslides in Glenwood Canyon are not awesome. I have to drive back and forth between Grand Junction and Denver often for work and adding 2 and a half hours to the drive suck balls. We will complain a bit but we will gladly take the water.

Yep. And those mud/rock slides took out several chunks of the most expensive section of Interstate ever built.
Great planning. Gotta love those highway engineers who think nature ends at curbside.

Some history:

The final design included 40 bridges and viaducts, three additional tunnel bores (two were completed before construction was stopped in the 1960s) and 15 miles (24 km) of retaining walls for a stretch of freeway 12 miles (19 km) long. The project was further complicated by the need to build the four-lane freeway without disturbing the operations of the railroad. This required using special and coordinated blasting techniques. Engineers designed two separate tracks for the highway, one elevated above the other, to minimize the footprint in the canyon. The final design was praised for its environmental sensitivity. A Denver architect who helped design the freeway proclaimed, "Most of the people in western Colorado see it as having preserved the canyon." He further stated, "I think pieces of the highway elevate to the standard of public art."

/but I'm sure your engineering acumen would have led to a vast improvement


My mom still complains about the damage done to the natural rock formations from the project, especially on the east end.  Me, I remember driving along the river bank on the 2 lane road before the project started when I was 5 years old, but in the 30 years since it was complete, I never cease to be amazed by how good of a job the architects, engineers, and construction crews did.  There is no part of that stretch that I don't deeply enjoy, whether on the road, the bike path, or in the water.

That said, we are little more than ants on the earth, and erosion is more powerful of a force than anything we can invent or sustain.
 
2021-08-01 9:34:05 PM  

dryknife: Flincher: dryknife: Flincher: Really wish i could move to New Mexico. Love that state.

The Land of Entrapment

I dunno man. I've had the unfortunate honor of living in Arkansas and....you have more than enough problems there.

I meant it in a good way meaning that that it puts a spell on you.
I lived in NM for several years and it becomes a part of you. You get addicted to green chiles and the aroma of piñon.

Arkansas sucks, stay away. Sara Sanders Huckabee will continue ruining life here soon.


I lived in New Mexico for about ten years. Entrapment refers to never making enough money to leave or the crooked cops.
 
2021-08-01 11:01:36 PM  
Eh not here
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