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(Popular Science)   The story here isn't that grizzly bears hate walking up hills. No, the story here is that scientists stuck grizzly bears on treadmills. Delicious, delicious scientists   (popsci.com) divider line
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2021-07-31 7:43:45 PM  
"Look Karen, if you weighed 600 pounds you wouldn't like walking up hills either"
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2021-07-31 7:58:57 PM  
That is a good question why do people run into bears in the farking woods that's so farking bizarre I mean really we need to research this why the fark would you run into a bear in the farking woods this needs to be farking figured out man or maybe people just need to stay out of the farking woods I don't know but then again manifest dentist kill all the brown people and enslave the darker ones
 
2021-07-31 7:59:45 PM  
Next step?
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2021-07-31 8:00:20 PM  
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2021-07-31 8:06:19 PM  
It's hard enough to outrun a regular bear. Now, farking scientists are helping them get into shape. What could go wrong?
 
2021-07-31 8:08:24 PM  

kbronsito: It's hard enough to outrun a regular bear. Now, farking scientists are helping them get into shape. What could go wrong?


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2021-07-31 8:11:43 PM  
Scientists trained nine captive grizzly bears to walk and run on a special treadmill placed in a custom, sealed enclosure of steel and plastic.

I need to see this in photographic form or I'm not believing it
 
2021-07-31 8:12:20 PM  
That still doesn't mean a grizzly won't run up a hill to murk your ass.
 
2021-07-31 8:14:01 PM  

berylman: Scientists trained nine captive grizzly bears to walk and run on a special treadmill placed in a custom, sealed enclosure of steel and plastic.

I need to see this in photographic form or I'm not believing it


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2021-07-31 8:24:56 PM  

leeksfromchichis: I need to see this in photographic form or I'm not believing it
[Grizzly on a Treadmill]


Well I be damned. Thank you. I am stunned and wonder how the incline works.
 
2021-07-31 8:29:31 PM  
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2021-07-31 8:35:00 PM  
I did a service call for a guy that lives in the Santa Lucia preserve in Carmel Cal. Gated community, every house has double digit acreage with no fences around the houses. Hilly, but not far from the coast. Lots of Cypress trees with moss hanging on them.

No bears, but as I'm getting closer I see two young buck dear near the road. Buck deer are usually loners. I go a little farther and there are three more young buck deer on the guys front yard. I get my tools, do the introductions and the guy mentions the deer. I told him I'd seen a good number of bucks over the years and maybe a pair once or twice but I've never seen five bucks in the same area. Wtf is going on out there!?

The guys points across the street and says: 'See that hill over there? There's a much bigger buck on top of that hill that keeps all the younger males down here.'

tl:dr Deer like the top of the hill, bears not so much
 
2021-07-31 8:35:51 PM  
For everything, there is a hypothesis, and a conclusion. And some bullshiat reason we needed to know that.
 
2021-07-31 8:37:34 PM  
And people wonder why bears eat us?
 
2021-07-31 8:39:59 PM  
Checks citations: WSU? Yep, Wazooo. Which has its own group of captive grizzlies that are used to give baseline research for all sorts of topics.  I recently attended a seminar where Federal and state bear biologists presented. One of them had done her PhD work at WSU doing dietary studies on grizzly hair. She found if you fed bears a diet specific to an area, you could tell by the various isotopes deposited in the hair as it grew.  So she could tell the difference between a bear from one locale or another and what the bear had been feeding on without ever seeing the bear. Just need a hair sample.
 
2021-07-31 8:40:08 PM  

phishrace: I did a service call for a guy that lives in the Santa Lucia preserve in Carmel Cal. Gated community, every house has double digit acreage with no fences around the houses. Hilly, but not far from the coast. Lots of Cypress trees with moss hanging on them.

No bears, but as I'm getting closer I see two young buck dear near the road. Buck deer are usually loners. I go a little farther and there are three more young buck deer on the guys front yard. I get my tools, do the introductions and the guy mentions the deer. I told him I'd seen a good number of bucks over the years and maybe a pair once or twice but I've never seen five bucks in the same area. Wtf is going on out there!?

The guys points across the street and says: 'See that hill over there? There's a much bigger buck on top of that hill that keeps all the younger males down here.'

tl:dr Deer like the top of the hill, bears not so much


No hunting around there and no more apex predators, so the deer population is way over grown.  And then they wander into the yards of all the rich people and eat the flowers!

Plus don't drive at night on a foggy US 101 down there as the deer cross the highway all the time between Carmel Valley and Carmel!
 
2021-07-31 8:42:38 PM  
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2021-07-31 8:43:55 PM  
Bears sometimes like to run

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2021-07-31 8:49:29 PM  
"You ain't gonna outrun that bear."
"I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you."
 
2021-07-31 8:55:34 PM  

WyDave: Checks citations: WSU? Yep, Wazooo. Which has its own group of captive grizzlies that are used to give baseline research for all sorts of topics.  I recently attended a seminar where Federal and state bear biologists presented. One of them had done her PhD work at WSU doing dietary studies on grizzly hair. She found if you fed bears a diet specific to an area, you could tell by the various isotopes deposited in the hair as it grew.  So she could tell the difference between a bear from one locale or another and what the bear had been feeding on without ever seeing the bear. Just need a hair sample.


One of my relatives got her BA at WSU then went to UCLA for her business MBA. Did the corporate life for a while, quit, and makes 6 figures now just running subscription services. It is what it is. But she's had some shiat to say about WSU. When you have a Pac-12 school in the middle of a cornfield, larger than the town, things get strange.
 
2021-07-31 9:09:10 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: For everything, there is a hypothesis, and a conclusion. And some bullshiat reason we needed to know that.


Science!
 
2021-07-31 9:09:24 PM  
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2021-07-31 9:10:55 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: WyDave: Checks citations: WSU? Yep, Wazooo. Which has its own group of captive grizzlies that are used to give baseline research for all sorts of topics.  I recently attended a seminar where Federal and state bear biologists presented. One of them had done her PhD work at WSU doing dietary studies on grizzly hair. She found if you fed bears a diet specific to an area, you could tell by the various isotopes deposited in the hair as it grew.  So she could tell the difference between a bear from one locale or another and what the bear had been feeding on without ever seeing the bear. Just need a hair sample.

One of my relatives got her BA at WSU then went to UCLA for her business MBA. Did the corporate life for a while, quit, and makes 6 figures now just running subscription services. It is what it is. But she's had some shiat to say about WSU. When you have a Pac-12 school in the middle of a cornfield, larger than the town, things get strange.


Wheat fields, exactly.

We took our late lab there for cancer treatments several times. It is an interesting set up, this gigantic campus dominating what would otherwise be a couple of tractor dealerships and a cafe or two.
 
2021-07-31 9:20:16 PM  

Swampmaster: phishrace: I did a service call for a guy that lives in the Santa Lucia preserve in Carmel Cal. Gated community, every house has double digit acreage with no fences around the houses. Hilly, but not far from the coast. Lots of Cypress trees with moss hanging on them.

No bears, but as I'm getting closer I see two young buck dear near the road. Buck deer are usually loners. I go a little farther and there are three more young buck deer on the guys front yard. I get my tools, do the introductions and the guy mentions the deer. I told him I'd seen a good number of bucks over the years and maybe a pair once or twice but I've never seen five bucks in the same area. Wtf is going on out there!?

The guys points across the street and says: 'See that hill over there? There's a much bigger buck on top of that hill that keeps all the younger males down here.'

tl:dr Deer like the top of the hill, bears not so much

No hunting around there and no more apex predators, so the deer population is way over grown.  And then they wander into the yards of all the rich people and eat the flowers!

Plus don't drive at night on a foggy US 101 down there as the deer cross the highway all the time between Carmel Valley and Carmel!


Correct no hunting, but there is one predator around. Mountain lions. Not as many as Santa Cruz mountains, where many are radio collared, but the recent massive fire in that area no doubt sent some south. It's been a couple years since I went to the guy's house.
 
2021-07-31 9:25:09 PM  
Researchers also found that bears are pretty bad at maintaining high speeds. The paper states that their metabolic thresholds are low enough that they can be considered "non-athletic." But given how powerful we all know bears to be, the authors also say that a more accurate label might be to call bears "sprinters" as opposed to "endurance runners."

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2021-07-31 9:39:29 PM  
One of my favorite things about my job is occasionally, I get a text from work that says, in not these words, "THERE IS A BEAR!"

So I'm left going okay uhhh I'm at home right now do you need me to

"BEAR"

I understand that but

"BEAR. I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND, BEAR. IT IS NOT OUR FAULT IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND BEAR."

Okay.
 
2021-07-31 9:43:35 PM  
Scientists need to get out more.

Bears aren't walking on our trails, our trails are almost always what were originally game trails, as are roads in broken country.

All varmints, not just bears,tend to take the path of least resistance in everyday doin's, but don't doubt that a bear can go straight uphill a damned sight faster than you can.

DON'T RUN UPHILL!. If you are going to try to run from a charging bear go downhill, it's harder for the bear to change direction running downhill and if you manage to dodge aside it might just keep going.

Or might not.
 
2021-07-31 9:54:37 PM  

leeksfromchichis: berylman: Scientists trained nine captive grizzly bears to walk and run on a special treadmill placed in a custom, sealed enclosure of steel and plastic.

I need to see this in photographic form or I'm not believing it

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What the fark? People get paid to come up with these ideas?

Who would have thought that trails specifically designed to traverse the wilderness easier would be used to traverse the wilderness easier by the wild life? Life is crazy, man...

/I assume that the study is being poorly explained in the article
 
2021-07-31 10:08:31 PM  
Well of course they got crap results with just apples.

How about finding out what they'll do if you offer them jelly-filled donuts?
 
2021-07-31 10:16:19 PM  

Dustin_00: Well of course they got crap results with just apples.

How about finding out what they'll do if you offer them jelly-filled donuts?


The bears are holding out for pic-i-nic baskets
 
2021-07-31 10:16:57 PM  
"Scientists trained nine captive grizzly bears to walk and run on a special treadmill (usually used for horses) placed in a custom, sealed enclosure of steel and plastic.  After cleaning off all the blood and brains splattered all over the walls they..."
 
2021-07-31 10:30:08 PM  

Literally Addicted: That still doesn't mean a grizzly won't run up a hill to murk your ass.


"Y'ain't here for the hunting, are you."
 
2021-07-31 10:32:45 PM  
shiat, son, all you had to do was ask me.  I'll still take the apple slices, though.
 
2021-07-31 11:28:21 PM  
Of course not. A while animal's instinct is to conserve energy. Walking uphill takes energy. They won't do it unless there's a payoff.
 
2021-08-01 2:23:29 AM  

abhorrent1: Of course not. A while animal's instinct is to conserve energy. Walking uphill takes energy. They won't do it unless there's a payoff.


I seem to have that very same instinct.
 
2021-08-01 2:26:15 AM  

Ringshadow: One of my favorite things about my job is occasionally, I get a text from work that says, in not these words, "THERE IS A BEAR!"

So I'm left going okay uhhh I'm at home right now do you need me to

"BEAR"

I understand that but

"BEAR. I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND, BEAR. IT IS NOT OUR FAULT IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND BEAR."

Okay.


Somehow that cracked me up despite the fact that I have no idea what any of it means. I have an urge to anonymously text it to some random person.

BEAR
..

IT IS NOT OUR FAULT IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND BEAR
 
2021-08-01 7:21:54 AM  

leeksfromchichis: kbronsito: It's hard enough to outrun a regular bear. Now, farking scientists are helping them get into shape. What could go wrong?

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That's Second Amendment stuff right there

The right to arm bears...wait...

Oh well, here's some cats on a treadmill

Cats on a Treadmill
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2021-08-01 8:42:35 AM  

maddermaxx: the authors also say that a more accurate label might be to call bears "sprinters" as opposed to "endurance runners."



Bears recompeting
 
2021-08-01 9:33:05 AM  
Silly.   Those experimenters have never walked on game trails, otherwise they'd know that even the dimmest deer etc. follow as horizontal a path as they can find.
There's one hill near me that I used to walk with my dog, and the side of that hill has a game trail that follows a crescent pattern - keeping to one elevation as it skirts around the lower part of the hill.
 
2021-08-01 1:11:37 PM  

WyDave: Checks citations: WSU? Yep, Wazooo. Which has its own group of captive grizzlies that are used to give baseline research for all sorts of topics.  I recently attended a seminar where Federal and state bear biologists presented. One of them had done her PhD work at WSU doing dietary studies on grizzly hair. She found if you fed bears a diet specific to an area, you could tell by the various isotopes deposited in the hair as it grew.  So she could tell the difference between a bear from one locale or another and what the bear had been feeding on without ever seeing the bear. Just need a hair sample.


In other words, hair care where bear.
 
2021-08-01 3:15:49 PM  

Nidiot: Somehow that cracked me up despite the fact that I have no idea what any of it means


Means there's a bear on site. Los Alamos National Lab is HUGE and has a significant wildlife population. If one decides to wander too close to facilities or into parking lots they send out a text blast until they can get someone to shoo it away with a broom or whatever.

TLDR they don't want to accidentally let employees get mauled by a panicked black bear so, UNDERSTAND, BEAR. IT IS NOT OUR FAULT IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND BEAR.

/and so on
 
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