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(Yahoo)   As the trade deadline approaches, the Cubs continue to clean house as they send Baez to the Mets and do a little cross town dealing with the White Sox sending them Kimbrel   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line
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2021-07-30 7:02:56 PM  
I swear, I've not seen a fire (sale) this big in Chicago since 1871...
 
2021-07-30 7:04:48 PM  
And Bryant to the Giants and Rizzo to the Yankees.

As a Cubs fan the last couple of days have been pretty brutal. While I wouldn't have been shocked by a move or two, I certainly thought at least one of them would be back.
 
BBH
2021-07-30 7:17:55 PM  
One good thing that might happen because of these trades, the number of subscriptions to the Marquee Network drops so low that they pay another network to telecast the Cubs.

\Not a "fan" of Sinclair Broadcasting.
 
2021-07-30 7:20:26 PM  
Bryant add the Giants is going to be a helluva fit. He can easily be the next Hunter Pence, both on the field and in the clubhouse.
 
2021-07-30 7:36:50 PM  
Wow talk about rebuilding. I don't see the upside to this massive trade off as a cubs fan. I knew Bryant would be gone before the season started but also Baez, Rizzo, and pitching too? Any fans here who follow more who can explain how this is a good thing?
 
2021-07-30 7:38:08 PM  

abhorrent1: And Bryant to the Giants and Rizzo to the Yankees.

As a Cubs fan the last couple of days have been pretty brutal. While I wouldn't have been shocked by a move or two, I certainly thought at least one of them would be back.


The trade with the White Sox wasn't to bad. You got Madrigal. The Sox locked him in for 6 or 8 years, so you got some time with him, and he does nothing but rake. Also, for Baez, you got the Mets 5th best prospect, so it wasn't too bad of a fire sale.

The one thing the Cubs management need to learn is to not piss off their young players. They pissed Bryant, Rizzo and Baez off so bad that they knew that they couldn't resign them, even if they parked a 747 full of money in front of their houses.
 
2021-07-30 7:53:21 PM  

Sugarmoobs: Any fans here who follow more who can explain how this is a good thing?


If the Cubs don't think Rizzo, Bryant, or Baez will accept a qualifying offer (i.e. a one year deal) this offseason, all the Cubs would get is one pick per player in the 70ish range in the 2022 draft. The players they got in return for those trades are all way better than what they would have gotten in the draft There's also nothing preventing the Cubs from trying to pursue any of those guys in free agency in the offseason, either.

It sucks and it never should have come to this, but it was the best business decision to make over the last 48 hours.
 
2021-07-30 7:59:38 PM  

Sugarmoobs: Wow talk about rebuilding. I don't see the upside to this massive trade off as a cubs fan. I knew Bryant would be gone before the season started but also Baez, Rizzo, and pitching too? Any fans here who follow more who can explain how this is a good thing?


All four were free agents after this year. The Cubs farm system is empty after six years of contending, they've been dealing with a ton of injuries. They're in 4th and they're not going anywhere.

So, Hoyer traded their last three months with the team and got young players and prospects to rebuild with. It sucks, but it was the right move. I'm honestly surprised he didn't deal Hendricks as well

And hey, some of them may be back next year - they're all free agents. They might sign with the Cubs.

It's still a sucky day, but there's real reasons for it and hopefully we can be back in contention in a couple of years.
 
2021-07-30 8:01:03 PM  

Outshined_One: Sugarmoobs: Any fans here who follow more who can explain how this is a good thing?

If the Cubs don't think Rizzo, Bryant, or Baez will accept a qualifying offer (i.e. a one year deal) this offseason, all the Cubs would get is one pick per player in the 70ish range in the 2022 draft. The players they got in return for those trades are all way better than what they would have gotten in the draft There's also nothing preventing the Cubs from trying to pursue any of those guys in free agency in the offseason, either.

It sucks and it never should have come to this, but it was the best business decision to make over the last 48 hours.


Bryant was never going to sign without testing free agency, not with Scott Boras as his agent.
 
2021-07-30 8:03:22 PM  
As a White Sox fan (and with apologies to germ78) I gotta say...
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2021-07-30 8:18:36 PM  

Sugarmoobs: Wow talk about rebuilding. I don't see the upside to this massive trade off as a cubs fan. I knew Bryant would be gone before the season started but also Baez, Rizzo, and pitching too? Any fans here who follow more who can explain how this is a good thing?


I'm sad, no doubt, and a little stunned that ALL of the core three are gone in addition to the lynchpins of the exceptional bullpen. it's definitely hard listening to tonight's game on the radio, and I feel awful for David Ross in particular.

and yet, it was no secret the team was going to be blown up in the offseason at the latest. this year was the last reasonable chance at being competitive for the foreseeable future. not only did the last two months prove it wasn't going to happen, but most of the players responsible for May's magic were new/young guys. at least doing it this way means the Cubs get more than three extra crappy draft picks in return, and VERY thankfully TPTB saw the writing on the wall instead of being buyers in a desperate attempt to salvage something from this year.
 
2021-07-30 8:24:01 PM  
I appreciate talking the explanation. This all makes sense but the fan side of me just hates to lose favorites. As a kid in the 70s and 80s the players didn't move teams near as much so when you see players who stick with your team for awhile it kind sucks to see certain ones go.
 
2021-07-30 8:37:37 PM  

Sugarmoobs: I appreciate talking the explanation. This all makes sense but the fan side of me just hates to lose favorites. As a kid in the 70s and 80s the players didn't move teams near as much so when you see players who stick with your team for awhile it kind sucks to see certain ones go.


it's not necessarily the end for everyone. Hoyer was very clear with all the upcoming free agents that this doesn't rule out possible offseason negotiations. Bryant in particular was emotional about going and said he wasn't closing the door on the Cubs either.
 
2021-07-30 8:38:23 PM  

Sugarmoobs: Wow talk about rebuilding. I don't see the upside to this massive trade off as a cubs fan. I knew Bryant would be gone before the season started but also Baez, Rizzo, and pitching too? Any fans here who follow more who can explain how this is a good thing?


The Ricketts have been crying poor for a while now since they went a gazillion dollars in debt buying up half of wrigleyville. So with that and this, how does that look to other players around the league?

Why would a young, star free agent player wanna come here after seeing how the Cubs treat their stars?
I fear we're heading back to the days of Tribune ownership.
 
2021-07-30 9:12:36 PM  
The Cubs should have won multiple championships with that group, but the 1 should hold the fans over until 2129.
 
2021-07-30 9:24:32 PM  

NINEv2: As a White Sox fan (and with apologies to germ78) I gotta say...
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Suck it. I knew they were gonna be cleaning house because of all the expiring contracts and the fact that no one signed any extensions earlier this year. I didn't expect them to completely gut the team though. That said, they got a far better return for Rizzo than I would have expected.

Also, Willson Contreras be like this:
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2021-07-30 9:26:07 PM  
And Mets fans are gonna enjoy having Baez. Such a fun player to watch. He's the one I'm gonna miss the most.

/like Dorothy missing the Scarecrow
 
2021-07-30 9:32:05 PM  
Cubs suck proactively
 
2021-07-30 9:38:49 PM  

abhorrent1: And Bryant to the Giants and Rizzo to the Yankees.

As a Cubs fan the last couple of days have been pretty brutal. While I wouldn't have been shocked by a move or two, I certainly thought at least one of them would be back.


Ahahahahahaha!!!!

Delicious.
 
2021-07-30 9:38:54 PM  

abhorrent1: And Bryant to the Giants and Rizzo to the Yankees.


Rizzo already hit a homerun for the Yankees.
 
2021-07-30 9:44:18 PM  
Contreras, Heyward, Hendricks are all that's left from 2016 I think.

Arrieta and Ross, too, but they left and came back.

Losing Rizzo hurts the most. Dude signed a team-friendly long term contract, racked up 30 HR/100 RBI a year, played gold glove defense, should have been the WS MVP, gave the goddamn ball from the last out to the owner, and that's not enough. They should have locked him up for 10 or more seasons three years ago.
 
2021-07-30 9:48:24 PM  

germ78: NINEv2: As a White Sox fan (and with apologies to germ78) I gotta say...
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Suck it. I knew they were gonna be cleaning house because of all the expiring contracts and the fact that no one signed any extensions earlier this year. I didn't expect them to completely gut the team though. That said, they got a far better return for Rizzo than I would have expected.

Also, Willson Contreras be like this:
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Ooh lookit Mr. Sensie-pants over here (kidding). Honestly though, wasn't trying to rub it in. To be fair I watched the Sox grasp at straws between what '07 and the Sale trade, so the tear down was a relief for me. As in "Reinsdord you farkwit why the HELL are you listening to Kenny!?!?" Griffey at fifftee? ManRam???

You did finally get your 'ship.
 
2021-07-30 10:22:00 PM  

ongbok: abhorrent1: And Bryant to the Giants and Rizzo to the Yankees.

As a Cubs fan the last couple of days have been pretty brutal. While I wouldn't have been shocked by a move or two, I certainly thought at least one of them would be back.

The trade with the White Sox wasn't to bad. You got Madrigal. The Sox locked him in for 6 or 8 years, so you got some time with him, and he does nothing but rake. Also, for Baez, you got the Mets 5th best prospect, so it wasn't too bad of a fire sale.

The one thing the Cubs management need to learn is to not piss off their young players. They pissed Bryant, Rizzo and Baez off so bad that they knew that they couldn't resign them, even if they parked a 747 full of money in front of their houses.


They didn't piss them off. They just didn't offer them the money they wanted.
 
2021-07-30 11:05:56 PM  
Cubs fans have to be feeling a bit like Bears fans circa 1988 - you knew that your best shot at winning was over, and you felt like you should have gotten one or two more championships (or at least gotten to the Super Bowl/World Series), but things didn't quite fall their way.  My always unpopular opinion is that coaching cost both the Bears and the Cubs - Ditka will always be the most overrated coach in Chicago sports history, with Maddon being second.  They won the World Series in spite of his management (particularly of the bullpen), not because of it.

I'm a Sox fan, so that analogy only makes me want to half-throw up.
 
2021-07-31 12:04:00 AM  

gregz18: Cubs fans have to be feeling a bit like Bears fans circa 1988 - you knew that your best shot at winning was over, and you felt like you should have gotten one or two more championships (or at least gotten to the Super Bowl/World Series), but things didn't quite fall their way.  My always unpopular opinion is that coaching cost both the Bears and the Cubs - Ditka will always be the most overrated coach in Chicago sports history, with Maddon being second.  They won the World Series in spite of his management (particularly of the bullpen), not because of it.

I'm a Sox fan, so that analogy only makes me want to half-throw up.


Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?
 
2021-07-31 12:37:55 AM  

NINEv2: Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?


I'm honestly trying to remember a single name off that White Sox World Series team, and drawing a blank.
 
2021-07-31 1:03:25 AM  

Trocadero: NINEv2: Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?

I'm honestly trying to remember a single name off that White Sox World Series team, and drawing a blank.


SCOTT PODSEDNIK!
 
2021-07-31 1:10:49 AM  
And that closer who my roommate in college played against... Bobby Jenks!

I still remember that day. there we were watching some game during the regular season in our college apartment and he (a spitting image of Jacoby Ellsbury, going to college with Jacoby Ellsbury) is like "holy crap! I remember him! He kicked our BUTTS in American Legion ball." And he accurately mentioned how he didn't play HS ball because of grades and other stuff.
 
2021-07-31 1:50:24 AM  

Trocadero: NINEv2: Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?

I'm honestly trying to remember a single name off that White Sox World Series team, and drawing a blank.


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2021-07-31 5:16:33 AM  

puffy999: Trocadero: NINEv2: Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?

I'm honestly trying to remember a single name off that White Sox World Series team, and drawing a blank.

SCOTT PODSEDNIK!


Isn't that Charlie Brown's favorite player?
 
2021-07-31 5:25:34 AM  

virulent_loser: Bryant in particular was emotional about going and said he wasn't closing the door on the Cubs either.


That's actually pretty surprising to me, since

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: with Scott Boras as his agent


the Cubs played silly buggers with his service time in 2015 to get control over this year, and I remember he was pretty pissed at the time.

/ Then again, I remember the shiat-eating grin on his face as he fielded 2016's final out, so...
 
2021-07-31 6:00:43 AM  

CivilizedTiger: virulent_loser: Bryant in particular was emotional about going and said he wasn't closing the door on the Cubs either.

That's actually pretty surprising to me, since

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: with Scott Boras as his agent

the Cubs played silly buggers with his service time in 2015 to get control over this year, and I remember he was pretty pissed at the time.

/ Then again, I remember the shiat-eating grin on his face as he fielded 2016's final out, so...


yep, I had the same thoughts. maybe his anger won't win out. though it's also possible that the emotions were genuine but he doesn't truly intend to negotiate with the Cubs.
 
2021-07-31 8:11:01 AM  

CivilizedTiger: virulent_loser: Bryant in particular was emotional about going and said he wasn't closing the door on the Cubs either.

That's actually pretty surprising to me, since

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: with Scott Boras as his agent

the Cubs played silly buggers with his service time in 2015 to get control over this year, and I remember he was pretty pissed at the time.

/ Then again, I remember the shiat-eating grin on his face as he fielded 2016's final out, so...


Any smart GM would have done the same thing. If a player has an agent who is going to insist that the player test the free agent market, why wouldn't you keep that player out of that market as long as possible? He'll claim to be mad, but he'll still sign with you if you offer him the money he wants.
 
2021-07-31 8:13:48 AM  

germ78: And Mets fans are gonna enjoy having Baez. Such a fun player to watch. He's the one I'm gonna miss the most.

/like Dorothy missing the Scarecrow

to

He's a mistake hitter. They will tire quickly of his swinging at everything thrown his way. Baez has big swing moments, and he let's you know it's a moment. Rarely will he come through with a big single or double to win a game.He's the one Cub I was not sad to see traded.
 
2021-07-31 9:25:38 AM  
They had a good team in 2015 and almost made the World Series, won it in 2016, had a tough NLCS in 2017, then sputtered out being good, but not good enough since.Besides Baez, none of them had improved since 2016.You can pay them and trot out the We Won the World Series 5 Years Ago circus, but the only way to get another top contending team is to replete the farm system and get lucky with free agents at the same time.Saw this on a friend's social media thing.
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2021-07-31 9:40:17 AM  
Also, I really hope they go into the free agency market this winter and offer Rizzo something with at least 5 years.
Hoerner, Bote, and Happ could be the quick turnaround to get back to the top, but they need to improve still. Madrigal should be a good piece to build with. Sign a couple big contacts, and call up another prospect or two and I think they can be back as early as 2023. Pitching is probably the biggest challenge to figure out.
 
2021-07-31 10:56:11 AM  

abhorrent1: And Bryant to the Giants and Rizzo to the Yankees.

As a Cubs fan the last couple of days have been pretty brutal. While I wouldn't have been shocked by a move or two, I certainly thought at least one of them would be back.


It was gutting to see Rizzo cut. KB, sure. Kimbrel, sure. But Baez and Rizz?! Man...that hurt.
 
2021-07-31 10:57:26 AM  

paswa17: Also, I really hope they go into the free agency market this winter and offer Rizzo something with at least 5 years.
Hoerner, Bote, and Happ could be the quick turnaround to get back to the top, but they need to improve still. Madrigal should be a good piece to build with. Sign a couple big contacts, and call up another prospect or two and I think they can be back as early as 2023. Pitching is probably the biggest challenge to figure out.


Once they leave the big stage, dont the Cubs usually stay gone for a century or so?
 
2021-07-31 11:10:14 AM  

NINEv2: gregz18: Cubs fans have to be feeling a bit like Bears fans circa 1988 - you knew that your best shot at winning was over, and you felt like you should have gotten one or two more championships (or at least gotten to the Super Bowl/World Series), but things didn't quite fall their way.  My always unpopular opinion is that coaching cost both the Bears and the Cubs - Ditka will always be the most overrated coach in Chicago sports history, with Maddon being second.  They won the World Series in spite of his management (particularly of the bullpen), not because of it.

I'm a Sox fan, so that analogy only makes me want to half-throw up.

Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?


As much as we may love that 2005 team, they didn't have the talent (or the youth) that the 2016 Cubs had.  The Sox had the most clutch starting pitching that any of us have seen in that postseason.  Ozzie didn't have nearly as much to work with...the only team that maybe underachieved a little was the 2006 team, which won 90 games and would have been the second wild card under the current setup.
 
2021-07-31 11:29:22 AM  

gregz18: NINEv2: gregz18: Cubs fans have to be feeling a bit like Bears fans circa 1988 - you knew that your best shot at winning was over, and you felt like you should have gotten one or two more championships (or at least gotten to the Super Bowl/World Series), but things didn't quite fall their way.  My always unpopular opinion is that coaching cost both the Bears and the Cubs - Ditka will always be the most overrated coach in Chicago sports history, with Maddon being second.  They won the World Series in spite of his management (particularly of the bullpen), not because of it.

I'm a Sox fan, so that analogy only makes me want to half-throw up.

Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?

As much as we may love that 2005 team, they didn't have the talent (or the youth) that the 2016 Cubs had.  The Sox had the most clutch starting pitching that any of us have seen in that postseason.  Ozzie didn't have nearly as much to work with...the only team that maybe underachieved a little was the 2006 team, which won 90 games and would have been the second wild card under the current setup.


The 2005 team nearly blew it down the stretch too. IIRC, their double-digit lead in the division was down to 1.5 games on the final day of the regular season. Also they caught a massive lucky break in the playoffs when a dropped third strike led to a game-winning rally in the 9th inning of a game.

/I forget if that was in the ALCS or WS
 
2021-07-31 11:31:33 AM  

mikaloyd: paswa17: Also, I really hope they go into the free agency market this winter and offer Rizzo something with at least 5 years.
Hoerner, Bote, and Happ could be the quick turnaround to get back to the top, but they need to improve still. Madrigal should be a good piece to build with. Sign a couple big contacts, and call up another prospect or two and I think they can be back as early as 2023. Pitching is probably the biggest challenge to figure out.

Once they leave the big stage, dont the Cubs usually stay gone for a century or so?


This isn't the Tribune Company Cubs.
I think the Ricketts were hungry to with the trophy. Not sure how much they value winning again.
Unfortunately for fans, the Cubs and Wrigley are a cash cow and will sell tickets and advertising when the team is in the dumpster.
We'll see if they play small market strategy or big market.
All I know is I'm glad I didn't get tickets for a game during the rest of the year hoping to see Baez, Rizzo, and Bryant.
 
2021-07-31 11:33:20 AM  

Trocadero: NINEv2: Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?

I'm honestly trying to remember a single name off that White Sox World Series team, and drawing a blank.


Konerko, AJ, Dye, Buehrle, Cotts (only because he went to ISU when I was there)
...and that's about it

/Cub fan
 
2021-07-31 11:40:11 AM  

paswa17: mikaloyd: paswa17: Also, I really hope they go into the free agency market this winter and offer Rizzo something with at least 5 years.
Hoerner, Bote, and Happ could be the quick turnaround to get back to the top, but they need to improve still. Madrigal should be a good piece to build with. Sign a couple big contacts, and call up another prospect or two and I think they can be back as early as 2023. Pitching is probably the biggest challenge to figure out.

Once they leave the big stage, dont the Cubs usually stay gone for a century or so?

This isn't the Tribune Company Cubs.
I think the Ricketts were hungry to with the trophy. Not sure how much they value winning again.
Unfortunately for fans, the Cubs and Wrigley are a cash cow and will sell tickets and advertising when the team is in the dumpster.
We'll see if they play small market strategy or big market.
All I know is I'm glad I didn't get tickets for a game during the rest of the year hoping to see Baez, Rizzo, and Bryant.


I was starting to save pennies here and there to go to a late season game. Not a chance in hell that I'm going now.
 
2021-07-31 11:43:05 AM  

germ78: gregz18: NINEv2: gregz18: Cubs fans have to be feeling a bit like Bears fans circa 1988 - you knew that your best shot at winning was over, and you felt like you should have gotten one or two more championships (or at least gotten to the Super Bowl/World Series), but things didn't quite fall their way.  My always unpopular opinion is that coaching cost both the Bears and the Cubs - Ditka will always be the most overrated coach in Chicago sports history, with Maddon being second.  They won the World Series in spite of his management (particularly of the bullpen), not because of it.

I'm a Sox fan, so that analogy only makes me want to half-throw up.

Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?

As much as we may love that 2005 team, they didn't have the talent (or the youth) that the 2016 Cubs had.  The Sox had the most clutch starting pitching that any of us have seen in that postseason.  Ozzie didn't have nearly as much to work with...the only team that maybe underachieved a little was the 2006 team, which won 90 games and would have been the second wild card under the current setup.

The 2005 team nearly blew it down the stretch too. IIRC, their double-digit lead in the division was down to 1.5 games on the final day of the regular season. Also they caught a massive lucky break in the playoffs when a dropped third strike led to a game-winning rally in the 9th inning of a game.

/I forget if that was in the ALCS or WS


ALCS vs the Angels in Game 2, after losing the first one.

They were AWFUL in August - but got hot at the right time.

Overall, I think baseball is the toughest sport to be consistently good in - too much variability from year to year with injuries, along with the fact that it's so much more of a skill-driven sport compared to football and basketball.
 
2021-07-31 12:12:24 PM  
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2021-07-31 12:42:03 PM  

germ78: gregz18: NINEv2: gregz18: Cubs fans have to be feeling a bit like Bears fans circa 1988 - you knew that your best shot at winning was over, and you felt like you should have gotten one or two more championships (or at least gotten to the Super Bowl/World Series), but things didn't quite fall their way.  My always unpopular opinion is that coaching cost both the Bears and the Cubs - Ditka will always be the most overrated coach in Chicago sports history, with Maddon being second.  They won the World Series in spite of his management (particularly of the bullpen), not because of it.

I'm a Sox fan, so that analogy only makes me want to half-throw up.

Er... where does Ozzie fall in that pantheon?

As much as we may love that 2005 team, they didn't have the talent (or the youth) that the 2016 Cubs had.  The Sox had the most clutch starting pitching that any of us have seen in that postseason.  Ozzie didn't have nearly as much to work with...the only team that maybe underachieved a little was the 2006 team, which won 90 games and would have been the second wild card under the current setup.

The 2005 team nearly blew it down the stretch too. IIRC, their double-digit lead in the division was down to 1.5 games on the final day of the regular season. Also they caught a massive lucky break in the playoffs when a dropped third strike led to a game-winning rally in the 9th inning of a game.

/I forget if that was in the ALCS or WS


They did. I figured it was Chicago baseball as usual, but then they swept the Bosox in rd 1. And it was AJ in the ALCS you're thinking of.

That team was perfect small ball. I don't have the percentages, but I'd bet in at least 66% of those games Pods walked, stole 2nd, and Iguchi bunted him over to 3rd. Not going to argue about the pitching either, holy farking clutch. The team was definitely greater than the sum of its parts, but Paulie and Bueherle in their primes? Bueherle is still on the HoF ballots for a reason.

I also recall wandering around my friend's apartment complex after the WS alone with a beer and a cigarette thinking 'did that actually just farking happen???' Called Dad, then B. I hope you had a similar experience.

Cotts was a Redbird? Huh, I might have drank with him once or twice. The baseball guys were a cliquey bunch though. Unless you had tits.

/still can't believe Foul Shots is no more
 
2021-07-31 1:42:43 PM  

NINEv2: Cotts was a Redbird? Huh, I might have drank with him once or twice. The baseball guys were a cliquey bunch though. Unless you had tits.

/still can't believe Foul Shots is no more


I seem to remember the BB guys being in a bit of a clique too. There was a guy from my HS who was on the ISU team, never really heard from him after he joined.

One really mindblowing thing for me is that the current Pirates manager (Derek Shelton) once was a stand-out baseball player for my high school back in the late '80s-early '90s, and through a convoluted path has ended up in the bigs. His younger brother Craig was a d-bag PE teacher when I was in HS.

/and I'm completely not surprised Foul Shots is no more. Ownership was corrupt AF
//hate to say I don't remember too much about the Sox winning besides that I had to catch a flight the next day and was also feeling mad jelly
 
2021-07-31 2:44:29 PM  

germ78: NINEv2: Cotts was a Redbird? Huh, I might have drank with him once or twice. The baseball guys were a cliquey bunch though. Unless you had tits.

/still can't believe Foul Shots is no more

I seem to remember the BB guys being in a bit of a clique too. There was a guy from my HS who was on the ISU team, never really heard from him after he joined.

One really mindblowing thing for me is that the current Pirates manager (Derek Shelton) once was a stand-out baseball player for my high school back in the late '80s-early '90s, and through a convoluted path has ended up in the bigs. His younger brother Craig was a d-bag PE teacher when I was in HS.

/and I'm completely not surprised Foul Shots is no more. Ownership was corrupt AF
//hate to say I don't remember too much about the Sox winning besides that I had to catch a flight the next day and was also feeling mad jelly


Most "kineseology" people are assflaps. They've migrated to crossfit now.

I was neck deep in my undergrad core classes at SIU. The day after, my structural geology prof (and eventual advisor) was all "Where's Mr. Nine today?" One of my friends responded 'I don't think even he knows'. Some habits died hard :)

And I remember one evening at shots: I had just broken my ribs, and I sneezed. Holy farking agony. They thought I was wasted when I was all doubled over and tried to 86 me. I wheezed out "I only had one and you know me guys!!!" This after we'd watched another regular pass out in a puddle of his own corndog honk at the bar.

/geez. Guess I needed to get out of that environment XD
 
2021-07-31 3:04:36 PM  

NINEv2: germ78: NINEv2: Cotts was a Redbird? Huh, I might have drank with him once or twice. The baseball guys were a cliquey bunch though. Unless you had tits.

/still can't believe Foul Shots is no more

I seem to remember the BB guys being in a bit of a clique too. There was a guy from my HS who was on the ISU team, never really heard from him after he joined.

One really mindblowing thing for me is that the current Pirates manager (Derek Shelton) once was a stand-out baseball player for my high school back in the late '80s-early '90s, and through a convoluted path has ended up in the bigs. His younger brother Craig was a d-bag PE teacher when I was in HS.

/and I'm completely not surprised Foul Shots is no more. Ownership was corrupt AF
//hate to say I don't remember too much about the Sox winning besides that I had to catch a flight the next day and was also feeling mad jelly

Most "kineseology" people are assflaps. They've migrated to crossfit now.

I was neck deep in my undergrad core classes at SIU. The day after, my structural geology prof (and eventual advisor) was all "Where's Mr. Nine today?" One of my friends responded 'I don't think even he knows'. Some habits died hard :)

And I remember one evening at shots: I had just broken my ribs, and I sneezed. Holy farking agony. They thought I was wasted when I was all doubled over and tried to 86 me. I wheezed out "I only had one and you know me guys!!!" This after we'd watched another regular pass out in a puddle of his own corndog honk at the bar.

/geez. Guess I needed to get out of that environment XD


Lots of people say that about Carbondale.

/EIU alum
//best friend did some doctorate work there
///escaped before the end, town didn't seem any worse than Charleston.
 
2021-07-31 3:18:03 PM  

phooeypapa: germ78: And Mets fans are gonna enjoy having Baez. Such a fun player to watch. He's the one I'm gonna miss the most.

/like Dorothy missing the Scarecrow to

He's a mistake hitter. They will tire quickly of his swinging at everything thrown his way. Baez has big swing moments, and he let's you know it's a moment. Rarely will he come through with a big single or double to win a game.He's the one Cub I was not sad to see traded.


He is a mistake hitter. He also has a lot of errors because of his god-tier range. Balls that would have been called beyond ordinary effort for most guys are easy for him, so he pushes. He makes a lot of plays, but there are occasions where he's good enough to get there but not good enough to get there and make the play.
 
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