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2021-07-29 10:24:34 PM  
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2021-07-29 11:39:23 PM  
Good. It's about time.
 
2021-07-30 12:00:04 AM  
I'm not finding it on NYT. That tweets been up for hours.

This appears to be the only article about Covid vaccines on NYT's main page

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/us​/​politics/biden-vaccine-mandates.html
 
2021-07-30 12:32:48 AM  

blender61: Good. It's about time.


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2021-07-30 1:15:12 AM  
Cool.
I am going to call this the Macron maneuver.
 
2021-07-30 5:59:18 AM  
I can't wait to hear how he's too sleepy to do anything but also too much of a radical leftist to be trusted.
 
2021-07-30 6:01:28 AM  
You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?
 
2021-07-30 6:04:12 AM  

sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?


Right? I wondered the same thing when folks would cry about the smallpox and anthrax vaccine.
They walk you in a line, asshole to bellybutton, and shoot you with a battery of them (hell the one above my asscheek felt like a god damn battery) the second or third day in boot camp.

Also you're in the military, fark your feelings.
 
2021-07-30 6:06:42 AM  

sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?


It's not, really.  But there could be a difference between vaccines with full approval and those with "emergency" authorization (which is the category the Covid shots are in for the moment) as far as requiring anyone to get it.  But the military might have greater leeway in that regard, especially since it's a national security/unit readiness question the same as any other vaccine requirement.

That difference might also play somewhat into whether employers in general can really require their employees to get the shot.
 
2021-07-30 6:06:44 AM  

sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?


It's just been so rushed. We don't yet know the long term effects of fire extinguishers.
 
2021-07-30 6:09:39 AM  
When I entered the Army way back in '86, one of the first things they did was jab me with their pressure-shot injections of god only knows what.  "Have you had Measles?"  SHOT.  "Have you had Polio?"  SHOT.  "Are you going overseas?"  SHOT.  "Is there the slightest chance that you have Rabies right now?" SHOT.  Wasn't even questioned, you did it or you didn't get in.

Now, mind you this was 35 years ago, and advanced tracker technology has become miniaturized.  No longer do they have to inject the horse-pill-sized antiquated Lojak chip in our necks.  It's nanite-sized, so it won't be as painful.  If anything, I'd call today's soldiers lucky, because my chip itches to this day.  It may be faulty, too.  I think it occasionally beeps at the end of the month.
 
2021-07-30 6:10:24 AM  
Military-worshipping antivax conservatives are gonna go apeshiat over this.
 
2021-07-30 6:10:52 AM  
(and I can't wait to watch).
 
2021-07-30 6:12:35 AM  

THX 1138: Military-worshipping (but too cowardly to have ever served) antivax conservatives are gonna go apeshiat over this.


There you go.
 
2021-07-30 6:12:57 AM  
Such an abuse of power by this weak, feckless tyrant.  The horror that is being perpetrated on our proud men & women in uniform is unbelievable.  Where is the freedom of choice? Where is the right of self-control over one's body?

That's what the RWNJ propaganda machine will be spewing today.
 
2021-07-30 6:13:34 AM  
That should keep towns near military bases healthier.. if it's not already too late for them.
 
2021-07-30 6:21:29 AM  
Good.
 
2021-07-30 6:23:41 AM  

Alphax: That should keep towns near military bases healthier.. if it's not already too late for them.


I'm thinking about some of the towns that have been outside the Marine bases I've been on.

Havelock NC? Lol no.
Whatever the garbage town just outside 29 Stumps? Lol no.

Most military TOWNS (not large cities near military bases) are full of government contractors raking in that sweet sweet government pay, trailer parks, retired Gunnery Sergeants who will still yell at you for putting your hands in your pockets, titty bars, check cashing places, more titty bars, five or eight Walmarts, and a shocking amount of used car dealerships, some titty bars, women who swear they are eighteen working in the titty bars, titty bars, tattoo shops, and titty bars.

Military towns are often not great places.
I was single, as a marine, in a military town, for my entire time in NC because the very last thing I ever wanted to do was even have a chance at knocking someone up and being stuck in that town forever.

NAS Whidbey Island was pretty OK, bought a house there.
 
2021-07-30 6:24:04 AM  

another one of them: Such an abuse of power by this weak, feckless tyrant.  The horror that is being perpetrated on our proud men & women in uniform is unbelievable.  Where is the freedom of choice? Where is the right of self-control over one's body?

That's what the RWNJ propaganda machine will be spewing today.


It's because Democrats hate the military!

A story told on local talk radio which comes from a trusted friend of the host: At the Inauguration there was a flyover of military jets. VP Kommie-la Harris was outraged by the display of aggression by baby-killers, and think of all the carbon emissions! But then Sleepy Joe, awakened by the majestic roar, leaned over and told her, "It's OK. Those are *our* planes now."

I totally would have believed the tale had I not heard Rush Limbaugh say the same about Bill Clinton 30 years ago. Get some fresh derp, fer petes sake
 
2021-07-30 6:30:38 AM  

omg bbq: Alphax: That should keep towns near military bases healthier.. if it's not already too late for them.

I'm thinking about some of the towns that have been outside the Marine bases I've been on.

Havelock NC? Lol no.
Whatever the garbage town just outside 29 Stumps? Lol no.

Most military TOWNS (not large cities near military bases) are full of government contractors raking in that sweet sweet government pay, trailer parks, retired Gunnery Sergeants who will still yell at you for putting your hands in your pockets, titty bars, check cashing places, more titty bars, five or eight Walmarts, and a shocking amount of used car dealerships, some titty bars, women who swear they are eighteen working in the titty bars, titty bars, tattoo shops, and titty bars.

Military towns are often not great places.
I was single, as a marine, in a military town, for my entire time in NC because the very last thing I ever wanted to do was even have a chance at knocking someone up and being stuck in that town forever.

NAS Whidbey Island was pretty OK, bought a house there.


I'm from Lawton, Oklahoma, attached to Fort Sill.  You nailed the features of an army town except for soldiers hitting on middle school girls.  And the farking officer wives, sheesh.
 
2021-07-30 6:33:53 AM  

sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?


If my unit's anything to go by, it's just that there wasn't anyone like Trump casting doubts on those ones at the time.
 
2021-07-30 6:35:51 AM  
Oh good.  Now I get to listen to the non-vaxxed-but-had-COVID dudes in the cube behind me biatch about this ALL. FARKIN. DAY. now....  Just like I had to listen to them biatch about vaccine mandates ALL. FARKIN. DAY yesterday.
 
2021-07-30 6:38:31 AM  

omg bbq: Alphax: That should keep towns near military bases healthier.. if it's not already too late for them.

I'm thinking about some of the towns that have been outside the Marine bases I've been on.

Havelock NC? Lol no.
Whatever the garbage town just outside 29 Stumps? Lol no.

Most military TOWNS (not large cities near military bases) are full of government contractors raking in that sweet sweet government pay, trailer parks, retired Gunnery Sergeants who will still yell at you for putting your hands in your pockets, titty bars, check cashing places, more titty bars, five or eight Walmarts, and a shocking amount of used car dealerships, some titty bars, women who swear they are eighteen working in the titty bars, titty bars, tattoo shops, and titty bars.

Military towns are often not great places.
I was single, as a marine, in a military town, for my entire time in NC because the very last thing I ever wanted to do was even have a chance at knocking someone up and being stuck in that town forever.

NAS Whidbey Island was pretty OK, bought a house there.


I was thinking that COVID had likely overrun the places already, but yeah.

I had some relatives in Waynesville MO, by Ft. Leonard Wood.  My late uncle was a long time middle school principal there, with about half the students as military brats.. my aunt taught first grade.
 
2021-07-30 6:38:51 AM  

wxboy: sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?

It's not, really.  But there could be a difference between vaccines with full approval and those with "emergency" authorization (which is the category the Covid shots are in for the moment) as far as requiring anyone to get it.  But the military might have greater leeway in that regard, especially since it's a national security/unit readiness question the same as any other vaccine requirement.

That difference might also play somewhat into whether employers in general can really require their employees to get the shot.


That difference is exactly why municipalities and companies aren't mandating the vaccine. Once it gets full approval that will change too.
 
2021-07-30 6:43:21 AM  
Once the Chinese crack Bill Gate's 5G code, they'll be able to track our solders everywhere!!!
 
2021-07-30 6:52:57 AM  

born_yesterday: Once the Chinese crack Bill Gate's 5G code, they'll be able to track our solders everywhere!!!


I'm still wondering what inane intel they must be getting by tracking all of us.  "He's back home now.  Now he's getting groceries.  Look, now he's at work.  Now he's at the pornography store again.  That's like the ninth time in six days".
 
2021-07-30 6:54:43 AM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: omg bbq: Alphax: That should keep towns near military bases healthier.. if it's not already too late for them.

I'm thinking about some of the towns that have been outside the Marine bases I've been on.

Havelock NC? Lol no.
Whatever the garbage town just outside 29 Stumps? Lol no.

Most military TOWNS (not large cities near military bases) are full of government contractors raking in that sweet sweet government pay, trailer parks, retired Gunnery Sergeants who will still yell at you for putting your hands in your pockets, titty bars, check cashing places, more titty bars, five or eight Walmarts, and a shocking amount of used car dealerships, some titty bars, women who swear they are eighteen working in the titty bars, titty bars, tattoo shops, and titty bars.

Military towns are often not great places.
I was single, as a marine, in a military town, for my entire time in NC because the very last thing I ever wanted to do was even have a chance at knocking someone up and being stuck in that town forever.

NAS Whidbey Island was pretty OK, bought a house there.

I'm from Lawton, Oklahoma, attached to Fort Sill.  You nailed the features of an army town except for soldiers hitting on middle school girls.  And the farking officer wives, sheesh.


Officer wives - the Karens to rule all Karens. A more wretched hive of scum and entitlement won't be found except for politicians' wives...

Oh, and there was at least one other thing omb bbq left out: titty bars. There are quite a few of those outside nearly every military base, usually located right near a titty bar.
 
2021-07-30 6:59:04 AM  

omg bbq: THX 1138: Military-worshipping (but too cowardly to have ever served) antivax conservatives are gonna go apeshiat over this.

There you go.


Ex military Antivaxx are all "duh. Big deal."
 
2021-07-30 7:02:14 AM  
I look forward to hearing from people who fully supported Trump banning trans people from the military say that it's dictatorial for the President to police the bodies of military personnel.
 
2021-07-30 7:02:34 AM  

fragMasterFlash: blender61: Good. It's about time.

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Black guys, help vaccinate the white guys.
 
2021-07-30 7:02:59 AM  

omg bbq: sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?

Right? I wondered the same thing when folks would cry about the smallpox and anthrax vaccine.
They walk you in a line, asshole to bellybutton, and shoot you with a battery of them (hell the one above my asscheek felt like a god damn battery) the second or third day in boot camp.

Also you're in the military, fark your feelings.


What if it's against my religious beliefs? Can't I just eat a magic wafer and drink some grape juice and pretend all the bad stuff goes away?
 
2021-07-30 7:06:00 AM  
I'm having trouble finding any confirmation of this. The closest I've found is here: https://taskandpurpose.com/news​/milita​ry-mandatory-covid-19-vaccines-troops/​ where it says only that "President Joe Biden has ordered the Defense Department to develop a plan to make vaccines for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) mandatory for all troops." so it seems like "BNO News" might be jumping the gun a little.
 
2021-07-30 7:08:20 AM  

sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?


FREEEDUMB!
 
2021-07-30 7:12:23 AM  
Most military people are crybaby. Crybaby that can kill you, but crybaby just the same.
 
2021-07-30 7:12:25 AM  

Gordon Bennett: I look forward to hearing from people who fully supported Trump banning trans people from the military say that it's dictatorial for the President to police the bodies of military personnel.


Oh please, there's zero cognitive dissonance caused by these 2 viewpoints (held by reich wingers)
1) 'transpeople are barely human and deserve no rights" and
2) "Glorious Hetero White Male Soldiers are heroes who should never be given orders by a Democrat.'
 
2021-07-30 7:13:51 AM  

SirSigsegV: I'm having trouble finding any confirmation of this. The closest I've found is here: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/​military-mandatory-covid-19-vaccines-t​roops/ where it says only that "President Joe Biden has ordered the Defense Department to develop a plan to make vaccines for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) mandatory for all troops." so it seems like "BNO News" might be jumping the gun a little.


You will not find verification yet because there is nothing to verify. This has not happened yet. The orders came down on Wednesday afternoon that (basically) all personnel at all DOD facilities will wear a mask regardless of vaccination status, but nothing yet on mandatory vaccinations.

It is expected to happen, but has not yet.
 
2021-07-30 7:13:53 AM  

born_yesterday: Once the Chinese crack Bill Gate's 5G code, they'll be able to track our solders everywhere!!!


They don't need that.  They just have to monitor Instagram and Facebook.
 
2021-07-30 7:13:58 AM  

omg bbq: sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?

Right? I wondered the same thing when folks would cry about the smallpox and anthrax vaccine.
They walk you in a line, asshole to bellybutton, and shoot you with a battery of them (hell the one above my asscheek felt like a god damn battery) the second or third day in boot camp.

Also you're in the military, fark your feelings.


The last person in line must be very short.
 
2021-07-30 7:14:30 AM  

alitaki: wxboy: sickb0y: You already have to get a whole raft of jabs when you go in.  How is this different?

It's not, really.  But there could be a difference between vaccines with full approval and those with "emergency" authorization (which is the category the Covid shots are in for the moment) as far as requiring anyone to get it.  But the military might have greater leeway in that regard, especially since it's a national security/unit readiness question the same as any other vaccine requirement.

That difference might also play somewhat into whether employers in general can really require their employees to get the shot.

That difference is exactly why municipalities and companies aren't mandating the vaccine. Once it gets full approval that will change too.


You mean like New York City?
 
2021-07-30 7:15:18 AM  

THX 1138: born_yesterday: Once the Chinese crack Bill Gate's 5G code, they'll be able to track our solders everywhere!!!

I'm still wondering what inane intel they must be getting by tracking all of us.  "He's back home now.  Now he's getting groceries.  Look, now he's at work.  Now he's at the pornography store again.  That's like the ninth time in six days".


Reminds me of the Onion article from 20 years ago that said: "The NSA would like you to stop encrypting your grocery list.  It wastes their time."
 
2021-07-30 7:17:11 AM  
If the military was savvy, they'd also use this as a litmus test for right wing extremism and let anyone who refuses the chance for a clean break without benefits.
 
2021-07-30 7:20:24 AM  

THX 1138: born_yesterday: Once the Chinese crack Bill Gate's 5G code, they'll be able to track our solders everywhere!!!

I'm still wondering what inane intel they must be getting by tracking all of us.  "He's back home now.  Now he's getting groceries.  Look, now he's at work.  Now he's at the pornography store again.  That's like the ninth time in six days".


The porn store? They have this thing called the internet now.
 
2021-07-30 7:20:47 AM  

fortheloveof: SirSigsegV: I'm having trouble finding any confirmation of this. The closest I've found is here: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/​military-mandatory-covid-19-vaccines-t​roops/ where it says only that "President Joe Biden has ordered the Defense Department to develop a plan to make vaccines for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) mandatory for all troops." so it seems like "BNO News" might be jumping the gun a little.

You will not find verification yet because there is nothing to verify. This has not happened yet. The orders came down on Wednesday afternoon that (basically) all personnel at all DOD facilities will wear a mask regardless of vaccination status, but nothing yet on mandatory vaccinations.

It is expected to happen, but has not yet.


Yeah, that's the impression I was getting, which I was trying to convey but I'm massively sleep deprived right now (as usual) so I probably didn't make it very clear.
 
2021-07-30 7:23:56 AM  
Our nation's readiness to conduct war at a moment's notice is about the only thing the middle spectrum of politics agrees on.

On the far left you have a bake sale mentality for funding and on the right you have a "surrender to Russia" attitude.

Anyone and everyone who suckles at the Government teat needs to have a vaccine mandate, especially those who take an oath to defend.
 
2021-07-30 7:36:16 AM  
Just like how FDR made soliders watch nuclear bombs going off to see what radiation would do to them, now Josef "méngüele" Biden is going to force military members to be injected with experimental vaccines that haven't yet been approved by the FDA.

Why do Democrat presidents treat the military like test subjects? Shows how much respect they have for the uniform. We aren't field mice !!

/s
 
2021-07-30 7:36:36 AM  
"They're not going to use that hepatitis spreading, pneumatic, arm mangler or try to force peanut butter through the needle?  Great! What's the big deal?"
 
2021-07-30 7:40:41 AM  

Blahbbs: Oh good.  Now I get to listen to the non-vaxxed-but-had-COVID dudes in the cube behind me biatch about this ALL. FARKIN. DAY. now....  Just like I had to listen to them biatch about vaccine mandates ALL. FARKIN. DAY yesterday.


Thank FSM for the option to WFH. My colleagues generally aren't derptastic but there's always one in the bunch.

Headphones and death metal help.
 
2021-07-30 7:44:24 AM  
It's not a shot *mandate* yet because of what happened with anthrax (short version: wasn't fully approved, some really bad side effects happened).  What's happening now is the same for federal workers: get the shot OR get tested with increasing frequency.  Until we get full FDA authorization that's all we can do.

Put rapid tests at every duty desk, take one every day at 0730 if you're unvaccinated.  Including weekends.  Make it farking HURT to endanger the people you fight beside.

Officers' wives are the Karens to rule all Karens
I mean, there's exceptions, but yeah, the CO's spouses in my units have either been KarenPrime or the other extreme where they will contradict the CO in public to help another spouse.  The latter are awesome, but not common enough.  It's a Batman and Joker dynamic.
 
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