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2021-07-29 5:19:43 PM  
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2021-07-29 9:24:38 PM  
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2021-07-29 9:32:56 PM  
No idea wtf this is about, other than there might be a pic of Jenna Fischer and her butthole.

/i know, I will be disappointed
//like I would jenna
 
2021-07-29 9:32:58 PM  
Sometimes a director catches lightning in a bottle then sucks ass for the rest of his career.

With James Gunn's soft reboot just days away, Ayer should be shutting the fark up and pretending he's never even heard of comic books.

Because there is no way he, at his best, can hold a candle to Gunn, at his worst.
 
2021-07-29 9:46:53 PM  
It's the Princess cut.
NSFW
This Is Where I Leave You ( I'm Wendy Altman bitch )
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2021-07-29 9:49:07 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: No idea wtf this is about, other than there might be a pic of Jenna Fischer and her butthole.

/i know, I will be disappointed
//like I would jenna


I only read  this thread because of the possibility of seeing her.  Not quite sure of the reference.
 
2021-07-29 9:50:47 PM  
I really want to see it, damnit.
 
2021-07-29 9:59:05 PM  
I mean... just looking at his IMDB page it seems like he's not able to write well, exactly, but he has an adequate ability to go sufficiently minimalistic and tight with his writing to hold an action movie together in basically every case except Suicide Squad.

I'll give him that it was an off day for him and not representative of his normal skill level, still sucked and still mostly his fault that it sucked, though.  The extra round of editing by the trailer guys is responsible for specific nonsense like the weirdly badly-paced and drawn out boring intro sequences that happened multiple times per character, but those are the parts that are so absurdly bad they're almost charming.  The actual plot of the damned movie and the conception of the characters and direction of the actors are all the other kind of bad, the boring kind, and that's all from the original footage.

// Also how do you have farking 20 splash-card intros and then fail to have Will Smith's cheesy dad-joke transition into your title card?  Here, I'll farking demonstrate: "What is this, some kind of--" **CUT TO "SUICIDE SQUAD" IN LARGE LETTERS**, maybe abruptly start the intro music.  There you go, come on, man.  If you're gonna intentionally B-Movie learn how to B-movie.
 
2021-07-29 10:16:03 PM  
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2021-07-29 10:19:48 PM  
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2021-07-29 10:21:39 PM  
3 hours of DVD extras?
 
2021-07-29 10:53:31 PM  
This isn't the movie we got, and in fact it's part of the reason the studio panicked and demanded changes, but this is STILL one of my favorite trailers of all time:
Suicide Squad - Official Trailer 1 [HD]
Youtube CmRih_VtVAs

It's up there with the first Iron Man "Iron Man" trailer, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 "Chains" trailer, and Thor Ragnarok "Immigrant Song" trailer.  Hmmm, I'm sensing a pattern in my preferences ...
 
2021-07-29 10:54:05 PM  
He saw the stupid amount of money HBO gave to Snyder.
 
2021-07-29 10:56:23 PM  
Can someone explain to me what other use there is for Hollywood pop culture other than catering to fans?
 
2021-07-29 10:57:10 PM  
Marketing.

With apologies to Bill Hicks.
 
2021-07-29 11:04:22 PM  

Troy McClure: He saw the stupid amount of money HBO gave to Snyder.


I don't think that's it. Unlike the Snyder cut, it sounds like Ayer's version was probably finished and gutted in editing, unlike...well, whatever really happened with Justice League.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing it, out of curiosity if nothing else. I don't imagine it could actually be worse than the cut we got.
 
2021-07-29 11:25:41 PM  
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2021-07-29 11:28:55 PM  

Social Justice Warlock: Can someone explain to me what other use there is for Hollywood pop culture other than catering to fans?


Licensing IP rights to people who get China make junk to sell to fans
 
2021-07-29 11:44:35 PM  

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And here we have the crux of the matter. Ayer committed a cardinal sin in anything DC: Thou shalt not make the Joker boring. Yes, Leto shares some of the burden for that, but Ayers let him do that.

There's also the issue of DC competing with themselves. Throughout the DCEU, you see stories and characters that have been done better multiple times before across DC films, TV shows, and Animated series. Will Smith is a great actor. We have seen him act in a dozen or so films (Six Degrees of Separation, Pursuit of Happiness, Ali, etc). Yet, we got the Fresh Assassin of Bel Aire, while Michael Rowe gives us a far superior, emotionally deep Deadshot in the Arrowverse. FFS, the JLU episode 'Task Force X' was a superior and deeper Suicide Squad story in 30 minutes that Ayer's 2 hours.
 
2021-07-29 11:50:02 PM  

Severaux: , it sounds like Ayer's version was probably finished and gutted in editing, unlike...well, whatever really happened with Justice League.


I don't know, it sounds similar.

So they shot, like... ALL of Justice League. And it was crazy that they did because the script must have been thick as hell. I don't know how they authorized it.

A lot of the new "cut" was CGI and post-production on the shots that were clipped when they went from 4:3 to 16:9. Some of it must have been CGI on stuff that was cut when Whedon took over. The only new scene was the weird dream scene in the epilogue.

https://www.insider.com/justice-leagu​e​-snyder-cut-how-joker-scene-was-made-2​021-3
This thrilling dream sequence is the only new scene that was shot for the Snyder Cut, the revised version of the 2017 "Justice League" movie, according to its producer Deborah Snyder, who is also the wife of director Zack Snyder.


I figure Ayer's cut requires a lot less post-production because his version of the movie was mostly done before the studio demanded reshoots.
 
2021-07-29 11:54:27 PM  

skyotter: This isn't the movie we got, and in fact it's part of the reason the studio panicked and demanded changes, but this is STILL one of my favorite trailers of all time:
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It's up there with the first Iron Man "Iron Man" trailer, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 "Chains" trailer, and Thor Ragnarok "Immigrant Song" trailer.  Hmmm, I'm sensing a pattern in my preferences ...


Okay. Please point out *which* scene of that trailer wasn't in the final cut. Because everything in that trailer was in the theatrical release.

I mean, FFS, all the characters got musical intros with their dossiers being read, and they couldn't even choose the right Creedence song for Killer Croc!

However, the 'Til Death Do We Part' mural on the wall of Belle Reve was on point, badass, and a great innovation/addition to the lore. But, that's pretty much the only thing that was done right.
 
2021-07-29 11:54:39 PM  
This really sounds like so much douche-bro whining over something that has been pretty industry standard from day one.
 
2021-07-29 11:58:59 PM  
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2021-07-30 12:01:06 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Throughout the DCEU, you see stories and characters that have been done better multiple times before across DC films, TV shows, and Animated series.


I don't know, all the other adaptations come off as incredibly cheesy. They go in the opposite direction with taking themselves seriously.
Wonder Woman 84 tried that level of cheese and it just stupendously farking sucked.
 
2021-07-30 12:32:02 AM  
With all these reshoots and re-edits that movies constantly go through I had an idea. I played a PC game a long time ago called Steven Spielberg's Director's Chair. In it you were given live action footage and could edit it the way you wanted to edit it. The problem, as with most movie making games, is that they emphasized the game portion and placed limitations on the movie making portion. I always wanted a game that gave me a couple of hours of shots and scenes, some music and sound effects, and then just let me make movies out of it. Don't force me to play a stupid game to unlock more tools, just leave out the game part and give me access to everything from the start.

So my idea is when studios have a flop of a movie, one way to make money off it would be to allow people access to footage from the movie so people could make their own edit of it. That's something I'd be willing to pay for, a service like that.  Rather than pay to watch Snyder's cut of Justice League, I'd pay to edit together my own cut of Justice League.

One reason I don't think they'd do that is what happens if someone comes up with an awesome version of something using the same footage that the original director had even though their version was crap? No one wants to get humiliated like that.
 
2021-07-30 12:37:40 AM  
I'd watch the Ayers cut.
 
2021-07-30 12:53:27 AM  

skyotter: This isn't the movie we got, and in fact it's part of the reason the studio panicked and demanded changes, but this is STILL one of my favorite trailers of all time:
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/CmRih_Vt​VAs?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]
It's up there with the first Iron Man "Iron Man" trailer, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 "Chains" trailer, and Thor Ragnarok "Immigrant Song" trailer.  Hmmm, I'm sensing a pattern in my preferences ...


you're right, great trailer, dumpster fire of a movie
 
2021-07-30 12:55:44 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Yet, we got the Fresh Assassin of Bel Aire


maybe, but he was still one of the better parts of the movie
 
2021-07-30 12:59:16 AM  
Suicide Squad Sales Pitch
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2021-07-30 1:04:05 AM  

skyotter: This isn't the movie we got, and in fact it's part of the reason the studio panicked and demanded changes, but this is STILL one of my favorite trailers of all time:
[YouTube video: Suicide Squad - Official Trailer 1 [HD]]
It's up there with the first Iron Man "Iron Man" trailer, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 "Chains" trailer, and Thor Ragnarok "Immigrant Song" trailer.  Hmmm, I'm sensing a pattern in my preferences ...


Huh? Are you aware that that trailer was a sensation when it came out, so much so that WB asked the guys who put it together to reedit the actual movie? You didn't get the Ayer cut because it wasn't testing well, WB was grasping for solutions, and all the love for that commercial looked like a potential fix.

Afterwards of course, some fans decided the marketer cut must have been what went wrong, but nobody could have assembled a good movie out of that footage. And I say that as someone who thinks a judicious edit and a few minor reshoots could have salvaged Ghostbusters 2016.
 
2021-07-30 2:15:17 AM  

ReaverZ: RoyFokker'sGhost: Yet, we got the Fresh Assassin of Bel Aire

maybe, but he was still one of the better parts of the movie


That's a ....pretty low bar to clear, there.

Sort of like saying that the fresh herbs make your shiat sandwich taste less like shiat.
 
2021-07-30 3:04:03 AM  

moothemagiccow: RoyFokker'sGhost: Throughout the DCEU, you see stories and characters that have been done better multiple times before across DC films, TV shows, and Animated series.

I don't know, all the other adaptations come off as incredibly cheesy. They go in the opposite direction with taking themselves seriously.
Wonder Woman 84 tried that level of cheese and it just stupendously farking sucked.


The thing is, the animated series, aside from Teen Titans/Go, are very well balanced between drama, suspense, action, and comedy (sometimes dark comedy)

Example...the showdown between Lex and Grodd in JLU...

Lex Luthor kills Gorilla Grodd | Justice League Unlimited
Youtube V09tI8DBsBY


And there are dozens, if not close to a hundred moments from the DCAU that make the DCEU look like high school student art projects. I mean, just Batman confronting Ace (the villain not the dog) in Epilogue has more emotion, maturity, and gravitas than the entire DCEU combined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWHHs​d​E_oQg&ab_channel=joshiro007x

And then, Young Justice to the level of excellent storytelling that the DCAU established and ran with it.

Season 1, Episode 19. Evil sorcerers split Earth into 2 dimensions: 1 inhabited by adults, 1 inhabited by children. The good guys win, but only with the help of Dr. Fate, possessing Zatanna to manifest in the physical world. The aftermath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2pet​Y​ciNWk&ab_channel=kevinwayodi

Again, there's dozens of clips from that series that beat out the best the DC movies have put out by light years. I mean, if you're not honestly crying at the end of Young Justice Season 2, you need to start questioning your humanity.

I'll agree the CW shows can be hit or miss, and too focused on the Issue of the season revolving around one of the main cast in each series keeping a secret they shouldn't instead of, you know, actually attempting basic communication with their teammates/love interest. But they still hit more than they miss. Michael Rowe, Arrow's Deadshot, starts off as the atypical marksman assassin. But his encounters with Ollie and Diggle bring him to the realization of just how toxic he is, how his wife and daughter really are safer and better off without him in their lives. Compare to Will Smith's Deadshot who thinks he's a great father because he's teaching his daughter geometry via ballistics, and doesn't care that he's corrupting her and leading her into the same kind of life he leads.
 
2021-07-30 4:08:59 AM  
Roger Ebert used to market a kit of raw shot scenes  from multiple angles, of a bank robbery, for teaching film editing technique.  Before tgat, film schools had a set of raw takes from an episode of "Gunsmoke" for teaching how to cut.  There's probably some new version of that out in the world. But I don't know where. It's a fun thing to experiment with.
 
2021-07-30 6:01:04 AM  
Just cash your paycheque, man, and move on.
 
2021-07-30 7:15:15 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: moothemagiccow: RoyFokker'sGhost: Throughout the DCEU, you see stories and characters that have been done better multiple times before across DC films, TV shows, and Animated series.

I don't know, all the other adaptations come off as incredibly cheesy. They go in the opposite direction with taking themselves seriously.
Wonder Woman 84 tried that level of cheese and it just stupendously farking sucked.

The thing is, the animated series, aside from Teen Titans/Go, are very well balanced between drama, suspense, action, and comedy (sometimes dark comedy)

Example...the showdown between Lex and Grodd in JLU...

[YouTube video: Lex Luthor kills Gorilla Grodd | Justice League Unlimited]

And there are dozens, if not close to a hundred moments from the DCAU that make the DCEU look like high school student art projects. I mean, just Batman confronting Ace (the villain not the dog) in Epilogue has more emotion, maturity, and gravitas than the entire DCEU combined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWHHsd​E_oQg&ab_channel=joshiro007x

And then, Young Justice to the level of excellent storytelling that the DCAU established and ran with it.

Season 1, Episode 19. Evil sorcerers split Earth into 2 dimensions: 1 inhabited by adults, 1 inhabited by children. The good guys win, but only with the help of Dr. Fate, possessing Zatanna to manifest in the physical world. The aftermath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2petY​ciNWk&ab_channel=kevinwayodi

Again, there's dozens of clips from that series that beat out the best the DC movies have put out by light years. I mean, if you're not honestly crying at the end of Young Justice Season 2, you need to start questioning your humanity.

I'll agree the CW shows can be hit or miss, and too focused on the Issue of the season revolving around one of the main cast in each series keeping a secret they shouldn't instead of, you know, actually attempting basic communication with their teammates/love interest. But they still hit more than they miss. Michael Rowe, Arrow's Deadshot, starts off as the atypical marksman assassin. But his encounters with Ollie and Diggle bring him to the realization of just how toxic he is, how his wife and daughter really are safer and better off without him in their lives. Compare to Will Smith's Deadshot who thinks he's a great father because he's teaching his daughter geometry via ballistics, and doesn't care that he's corrupting her and leading her into the same kind of life he leads.


The CW shows with the exception of Legends are all basically teen soap operas. I can get that it kinda worked for arrow and his story, but it has really screwed up the Flash and made him as melodramatic as the rest of the DC, the Flash is suppose to be the fun one with odd friendly villains, not the ones we have been getting...
 
2021-07-30 7:36:37 AM  

punkwrestler: The CW shows with the exception of Legends are all basically teen soap operas. I can get that it kinda worked for arrow and his story, but it has really screwed up the Flash and made him as melodramatic as the rest of the DC, the Flash is suppose to be the fun one with odd friendly villains, not the ones we have been getting...


Have even you read comics? Soap Operas  and comics come from the same source - the tawdry serials of the 1800s. Batman owes a huge (and explicit) debt to the Scarlett Pimpernelseries which is as soapy as you can get. The same is true for Superman and Barsoom. Not much has changed. They are still written to the story beats of The Perils of Pauline. Yes, even Moore's navel-gazing silliness, like Promethea.

/The best, and I mean best, version of this is The Count of Monte Cristo, which has the whole "come back next week" thing down pat.
 
2021-07-30 8:35:25 AM  

luidprand: punkwrestler: The CW shows with the exception of Legends are all basically teen soap operas. I can get that it kinda worked for arrow and his story, but it has really screwed up the Flash and made him as melodramatic as the rest of the DC, the Flash is suppose to be the fun one with odd friendly villains, not the ones we have been getting...

Have even you read comics? Soap Operas  and comics come from the same source - the tawdry serials of the 1800s. Batman owes a huge (and explicit) debt to the Scarlett Pimpernelseries which is as soapy as you can get. The same is true for Superman and Barsoom. Not much has changed. They are still written to the story beats of The Perils of Pauline. Yes, even Moore's navel-gazing silliness, like Promethea.

/The best, and I mean best, version of this is The Count of Monte Cristo, which has the whole "come back next week" thing down pat.


Yes I have,  and while that serves well for the arrow, the tone of the Flash should have been a lot lighter and been more like the comic more like the Adam West Batman Series!
 
2021-07-30 4:39:37 PM  

luidprand: Soap Operas  and comics come from the same source - the tawdry serials of the 1800s


literally no one cares
 
2021-07-30 8:50:08 PM  
Wait, what is this about Harley Quinn's butthole?  This sounds important to me.
 
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