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(DoctorWho.TV)   Jodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall to leave Doctor Who in a trio of specials next year. Who should the next doctor be?   (doctorwho.tv) divider line
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2021-07-29 10:49:04 AM  
Idris Elba.
 
2021-07-29 10:49:56 AM  
One of these 2 things is good news
 
2021-07-29 10:54:18 AM  
Chibnall is leaving?

Good.

But now I'm worried about what further damage he'll be doing on his way out the door.
 
2021-07-29 10:58:09 AM  
Chibnall leaving is a start. If a new show runner and writers are hired that actually watched the series and liked season 1-10 it would be a start. Sadly after the horribly written last 2 seasons it may be time to end the series.
 
2021-07-29 10:58:19 AM  
Richard Ayoade.

He is the ONLY perfect option.
 
2021-07-29 11:16:27 AM  

Ambivalence: Richard Ayoade.

He is the ONLY perfect option.


That.  Combine him with good writing and he would be 4th Doctor epic.

/or at least 10th
 
2021-07-29 11:18:30 AM  

Ambivalence: Richard Ayoade.

He is the ONLY perfect option.


Sarah Lancashire. Playing her character from Happy Valley.
 
2021-07-29 11:18:49 AM  

Ambivalence: Richard Ayoade.

He is the ONLY perfect option.


Either him or Matt Berry. Preferably Matt Berry in the manner of Steven Toast.
 
2021-07-29 11:19:22 AM  

Ambivalence: Richard Ayoade.


Smart AND Funny.
 
2021-07-29 11:21:22 AM  
And at some point, they should have the doctor run into Ace so we can find out what happened to her character. The classic series went on "hiatus" and ended abruptly.

(Not sure if the New Adventure novels were canon.)
 
2021-07-29 11:41:17 AM  
I don't care who the doctor is but I want to see Shona as the companion.


/and better writing
//FTA: Chris and Jodie have given Doctor Who some of its most life-affirming and tear-jerking moments to date
/// And HERE'S YOUR PROBLEM
//// If I wanted Hallmark, I know where to find it.
 
2021-07-29 11:48:54 AM  
Piers Morgan.

/ SO OBVIOUSLY TROLLING
 
2021-07-29 12:05:21 PM  

Ambivalence: Richard Ayoade.

He is the ONLY perfect option.


Nah, but he'd make a great companion, similar to Matt Lucas.
 
2021-07-29 12:12:23 PM  
It's unfortunate that Whittaker had to share the same run as Chibnall. She deserved better.
 
2021-07-29 12:20:26 PM  

Ambivalence: Richard Ayoade.

He is the ONLY perfect option.


I would support that.

I lost BBCA at the time Whitaker started. I had an opportunity to see a few minutes that happened to be the "I'm the Doctor too" and decided I wasn't missing anything. Nothing against her, it just seemed to be a story feel vibe kind of thing. It was like, "Oh, this trope again".

Tom Baker was The Doctor when I started watching. Not that's the first episodes I saw, I mean he was still actually the actor playing the role. I'm glad it became as popular as it did, even though it got dumbed down and a little preachy at times.
 
2021-07-29 12:38:55 PM  
Jenna Coleman

/I don't care how, just make it happen
 
2021-07-29 12:39:29 PM  
I'd love to see Simon Pegg do this.
 
2021-07-29 12:39:54 PM  
Keira Knightley.

She has range.
 
2021-07-29 12:41:08 PM  
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You know you want it to happen.
 
2021-07-29 12:41:22 PM  
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2021-07-29 12:43:02 PM  

Ambivalence: Richard Ayoade.

He is the ONLY perfect option.


I forget who I was going to name because, dammit, you're right. That would be AMAZING.
 
2021-07-29 12:45:10 PM  
"Jodie and I made a 'three series and out' pact with each other at the start of this once-in-a-lifetime blast."

Absolute bullshiat.  BBC would never hire a producer to take charge of one of their golden gooses for a 3 year stint.  Convenient excuse, Chris.
 
2021-07-29 12:47:29 PM  
Good. Now I also want Elsa Majimbo involved in the next iteration.
 
2021-07-29 12:57:53 PM  

Gubbo: One of these 2 things is good news


It's a shame that we don't get to see at least one season with Jodi as The Doctor with a competent showrunner.
 
2021-07-29 12:58:16 PM  
If not Richard Ayoade, then Bill Bailey.
 
2021-07-29 1:00:04 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: "Jodie and I made a 'three series and out' pact with each other at the start of this once-in-a-lifetime blast."

Absolute bullshiat.  BBC would never hire a producer to take charge of one of their golden gooses for a 3 year stint.  Convenient excuse, Chris.


Yeah, he screwed up bad. This is like, Colin Baker bad. I have no idea how they are going to clean it up, but it's probably going to be some handwavey crap, which isn't new to Doctor Who, but it's really bad when you have to clean up a mess this big.

I would have no problem with them having Doctor Ruth if the past couple of seasons can be explained away in a halfway sufficient manner.
 
2021-07-29 1:00:06 PM  
Hiatus please. 5 years sounds about right. You can keep on with the the audio stuff, the quality is FAR better.
 
2021-07-29 1:00:56 PM  

bostonguy: Piers Morgan.

/ SO OBVIOUSLY TROLLING


Wait. Work with me on this.

Piers would play and old, asshole doctor like the first two incarnations -- but also incompetent. He would have a three companions, all young black women, who take no crap and prove him wrong and beat the bad guys all the time.

/ BBC, call me
// I'll take money for this idea
/// three
 
2021-07-29 1:01:11 PM  
Sue Perkins.
 
2021-07-29 1:03:43 PM  

eurotrader: Chibnall leaving is a start. If a new show runner and writers are hired that actually watched the series and liked season 1-10 it would be a start. Sadly after the horribly written last 2 seasons it may be time to end the series.


I'd prefer one who liked seasons 4 through 21.
 
2021-07-29 1:03:50 PM  
I know we're happy about  Chibnall leaving but I just checked wikipedia, and it turns out Moffat is still alive and oh dear god don't let him take over again.
 
2021-07-29 1:11:41 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Sue Perkins.


Yes!
 
2021-07-29 1:20:16 PM  
Gordon Bennett?

/ don't really know who he is
 
2021-07-29 1:22:58 PM  

Malenfant: eurotrader: Chibnall leaving is a start. If a new show runner and writers are hired that actually watched the series and liked season 1-10 it would be a start. Sadly after the horribly written last 2 seasons it may be time to end the series.

I'd prefer one who liked seasons 4 through 21.


Seasons since reboot in 2005 1-8 is preferred. It is to the point a hiatus for at least a few years may be best. Dr.Who after the good show runner and writers left it, looks like the staff that wasn't good enough for Top gear after the stars left  got hired for Dr. Who.
 
2021-07-29 1:28:35 PM  

Superjoe: LeoffDaGrate: "Jodie and I made a 'three series and out' pact with each other at the start of this once-in-a-lifetime blast."

Absolute bullshiat.  BBC would never hire a producer to take charge of one of their golden gooses for a 3 year stint.  Convenient excuse, Chris.

Yeah, he screwed up bad. This is like, Colin Baker bad. I have no idea how they are going to clean it up, but it's probably going to be some handwavey crap, which isn't new to Doctor Who, but it's really bad when you have to clean up a mess this big.

I would have no problem with them having Doctor Ruth if the past couple of seasons can be explained away in a halfway sufficient manner.


There's not really a big mess to clean up. Chibnall's run has been pretty boring and uneventful. The only things he introduced are the Timeless Child and Doctor Ruth. The Timeless Child was so vague, future writers can just say The Master was lying or they were both confused by what they saw in the Matrix. And Doctor Ruth was actually cool and commanding in a way that Jodie wasn't. I do feel sorry for Jodie because there were times that she shined but the writing was so flat, boring, and not centered around the Doctor that she wasn't well served.
 
2021-07-29 1:48:23 PM  
Rowan Atkinson.
 
2021-07-29 1:49:29 PM  
Bruce Campbell.
 
2021-07-29 1:53:31 PM  

DayeOfJustice: Superjoe: LeoffDaGrate: "Jodie and I made a 'three series and out' pact with each other at the start of this once-in-a-lifetime blast."

Absolute bullshiat.  BBC would never hire a producer to take charge of one of their golden gooses for a 3 year stint.  Convenient excuse, Chris.

Yeah, he screwed up bad. This is like, Colin Baker bad. I have no idea how they are going to clean it up, but it's probably going to be some handwavey crap, which isn't new to Doctor Who, but it's really bad when you have to clean up a mess this big.

I would have no problem with them having Doctor Ruth if the past couple of seasons can be explained away in a halfway sufficient manner.

There's not really a big mess to clean up. Chibnall's run has been pretty boring and uneventful. The only things he introduced are the Timeless Child and Doctor Ruth. The Timeless Child was so vague, future writers can just say The Master was lying or they were both confused by what they saw in the Matrix. And Doctor Ruth was actually cool and commanding in a way that Jodie wasn't. I do feel sorry for Jodie because there were times that she shined but the writing was so flat, boring, and not centered around the Doctor that she wasn't well served.


This.   Honestly the true answer to what should the next re-generation be is we do a mindscape where during the regeneration sequence 13th Doctor flashes back to adventures of Doctor Ruth and then we follow that for a few seasons.

I do feel Jodie was pretty well undercut by a real mess of showrunning.   "You know what, let's destroy Gallifrey for real this time and make it extra dead" leaves a pretty sour taste in my mouth.

One of the biggest problems is they don't seem to want the 13th Doctor veer a bit into anything where the Doctor gets truly angry, and there are all these hints that the 13th Doctor has vague regret and unresolved issues but the show is also uninterested in dealing with any of them, just a 'Sorry fam, no we're really not going to work through these issues'

The entire 13th Doctor run has basically been 'So there's a lot going on under the surface.........but we're not going to pay any of that off or examine any of it'

/Also, terrible behavior that will probably ensure that he doesn't end back up on the show any time soon from John Barrowman aside........what even was the point of Jack showing up to say 'don't do this thing! (cyberman upgrade)' have the doctor do that thing and then................nary a word from Jack on it in the next appearance.   Jack's next appearance is almost a light hearted Dalek romp.
 
2021-07-29 1:59:23 PM  
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2021-07-29 2:02:46 PM  

Superjoe: Yeah, he screwed up bad. This is like, Colin Baker bad. I have no idea how they are going to clean it up, but it's probably going to be some handwavey crap, which isn't new to Doctor Who, but it's really bad when you have to clean up a mess this big.


In the episode Last Christmas (I think it was that one) The Doctor and companion run into a situation dealing with alien crabs that put people into a coma-like dream state. The Doctor states that they will know when they have finally escaped from the dream, when they wake up with wounds on their temples.

And by the end of the story, (I seem to recall) they haven't.

That could be a convenient point to soft-reboot to.

As for Chibnall, he took a show that wasn't doing so hot in the ratings and chased the die-hard audience away. I can only assume that the reason the Beeb didn't just fire him outright was that they had a hard time finding any producer willing to put their own careers at risk by taking charge of a complete flop.
 
2021-07-29 2:05:20 PM  
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2021-07-29 2:08:48 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Sue Perkins


I've thought that she should be cast for years. She'd make an amazing Doctor.
 
2021-07-29 2:09:04 PM  

eurotrader: Just for reference
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It's a metric, but....it's a poor one

IMDB is going to have her lower than all the others because she's a woman.

Now I think she's been terribly served by the writing and the belief that she wasn't enough to carry the show and the focus was taken off her far too often. But IMDb is gonna be inherently flawed
 
2021-07-29 2:13:05 PM  
Let Rachel Talalay take over as show runner.
 
2021-07-29 2:13:40 PM  
Jensen Ackles or Jared Padalecki (or both!)

- it'd be hilarious to have an American (or are they Canadian?) Doctor for a season, so many opportunities.
 
2021-07-29 2:15:19 PM  
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RIP Johnnie Whitaker
 
2021-07-29 2:15:24 PM  

Gubbo: I know we're happy about  Chibnall leaving but I just checked wikipedia, and it turns out Moffat is still alive and oh dear god don't let him take over again.


Moffat was the best writer for new Who period. Look up the episodes he wrote. This is just fact.
 
2021-07-29 2:15:31 PM  

eurotrader: Just for reference
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I love how a 5 out of 10 is considered "terrible" on a 1-10 scale.  I'm sensing just a LITTLE bit of numbers play.
 
2021-07-29 2:15:57 PM  

Gubbo: eurotrader: Just for reference
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It's a metric, but....it's a poor one

IMDB is going to have her lower than all the others because she's a woman.

Now I think she's been terribly served by the writing and the belief that she wasn't enough to carry the show and the focus was taken off her far too often. But IMDb is gonna be inherently flawed


The actual viewing ratings have the new new new new Dr. Who with only about half of previous ratings. Whittaker is not the problem, it is a lack of good writing and a horrible show runner.  Whittaker could have been a good Doctor but she needed something to work with. I liked Missy better than Master and I was not the only one. The gender doesn't matter much without a good script.
 
2021-07-29 2:16:42 PM  

alaric3: Gubbo: I know we're happy about  Chibnall leaving but I just checked wikipedia, and it turns out Moffat is still alive and oh dear god don't let him take over again.

Moffat was the best writer for new Who period. Look up the episodes he wrote. This is just fact.


Writing for the show and running it are two entirely different things.
 
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