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2021-07-28 12:56:03 PM  
Jones to Philly as a backup, I hope it works out for him.  Thanks for taking us to our only SCF!
 
2021-07-28 1:03:54 PM  
I know he's not a free agent, but Logan Mailloux to any team for nothing.  Habs look like shiat right now...
 
2021-07-28 1:08:38 PM  
Carolina didn't want to pay Ned $3.5 million, so they traded him to Detroit for a 3rd round pick (94th overall) and the rights for pending UFA Jonathan Bernier.  They don't sign Berneir and send Mrazek to the Leafs in a deal that gets them Freddie Andersen, who they sign for 2 years at $4.5 million per year.  I get not wanting to take the risk that this was only going to be one hot season from Ned (personally, I think $3-3.5 million AAV was a worth risk taking), but this Andersen deal feels like an even bigger risk to me.

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2021-07-28 1:10:25 PM  
CBC says Carolina has signed Freddie Anderson, but I can't find anyone else confirming that. Supposedly 9 mil for 2 years, which is baffling given that he is very much on the downside of his career and Nedeljkovic is very much on the upswing and would have made 1.5 mil less per season. Even more baffling are the reports that they are going to sign Tony DeAngelo. I mean who doesn't need locker room cancer? After patient building over several seasons the management seems determined to let talents they helped develop walk over pocket change and generally undo years of building for no clear return. I am super curious what Rod Brind'amour thinks of these moves.
 
2021-07-28 1:15:26 PM  

Samsquantch: CBC says Carolina has signed Freddie Anderson, but I can't find anyone else confirming that. Supposedly 9 mil for 2 years, which is baffling given that he is very much on the downside of his career and Nedeljkovic is very much on the upswing and would have made 1.5 mil less per season. Even more baffling are the reports that they are going to sign Tony DeAngelo. I mean who doesn't need locker room cancer? After patient building over several seasons the management seems determined to let talents they helped develop walk over pocket change and generally undo years of building for no clear return. I am super curious what Rod Brind'amour thinks of these moves.


Elliotte Friedman is reporting the Andersen deal (2x$4.5 million) and Cap Friendly has him as a member of the Hurricanes now.  That and the DeAngelo deal, yeah, no one has any idea what the 'Cane's front office is thinking.
 
2021-07-28 1:18:33 PM  

Polish Hussar: Samsquantch: CBC says Carolina has signed Freddie Anderson, but I can't find anyone else confirming that. Supposedly 9 mil for 2 years, which is baffling given that he is very much on the downside of his career and Nedeljkovic is very much on the upswing and would have made 1.5 mil less per season. Even more baffling are the reports that they are going to sign Tony DeAngelo. I mean who doesn't need locker room cancer? After patient building over several seasons the management seems determined to let talents they helped develop walk over pocket change and generally undo years of building for no clear return. I am super curious what Rod Brind'amour thinks of these moves.

Elliotte Friedman is reporting the Andersen deal (2x$4.5 million) and Cap Friendly has him as a member of the Hurricanes now.  That and the DeAngelo deal, yeah, no one has any idea what the 'Cane's front office is thinking.


I think Stevie also signed away what brains the Canes front office had. My gods Canes WTF?!
 
2021-07-28 1:24:05 PM  

Polish Hussar: Samsquantch: CBC says Carolina has signed Freddie Anderson, but I can't find anyone else confirming that. Supposedly 9 mil for 2 years, which is baffling given that he is very much on the downside of his career and Nedeljkovic is very much on the upswing and would have made 1.5 mil less per season. Even more baffling are the reports that they are going to sign Tony DeAngelo. I mean who doesn't need locker room cancer? After patient building over several seasons the management seems determined to let talents they helped develop walk over pocket change and generally undo years of building for no clear return. I am super curious what Rod Brind'amour thinks of these moves.

Elliotte Friedman is reporting the Andersen deal (2x$4.5 million) and Cap Friendly has him as a member of the Hurricanes now.  That and the DeAngelo deal, yeah, no one has any idea what the 'Cane's front office is thinking.


I guess they've seen how successful the Leafs have been with their strategy of trading players they developed in the minors on the verge of their breakout seasons to free up cap space to pay over the hill geezers twice what they are worth and wanted some of that. After years of smart draft picks this year's "strategy" was a real mystery - trade all our high picks for lots of late round picks. No one has more third round picks than us! Given how shady Dundon is, it wouldn't surprise me if this is some hockey version of The Producers in the works.
 
2021-07-28 1:38:28 PM  
Blake Coleman and Zadorov to Calgary.

Ok.

I guess.
 
2021-07-28 1:47:49 PM  
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"Hey Daryl  what are we gonna do with our cap space this summer?"

"Same thing we do every summer  Ken"

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"Get coked up and overspend on everybody!"
 
2021-07-28 1:49:14 PM  
8 years at $9.5M makes Seth Jones one of the highest-paid defensemen in the league. He's very good, but I don't think he's that good.
 
2021-07-28 1:49:57 PM  
Not too crazy about Mrazek, still think the Leafs need a big trade.
 
2021-07-28 1:51:53 PM  

Polish Hussar: Carolina didn't want to pay Ned $3.5 million, so they traded him to Detroit for a 3rd round pick (94th overall) and the rights for pending UFA Jonathan Bernier.  They don't sign Berneir and send Mrazek to the Leafs in a deal that gets them Freddie Andersen, who they sign for 2 years at $4.5 million per year.  I get not wanting to take the risk that this was only going to be one hot season from Ned (personally, I think $3-3.5 million AAV was a worth risk taking), but this Andersen deal feels like an even bigger risk to me.

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I'm completely contented with the moves the Canes have made so far.  Ned had a small sample size with only 29 games played and he wanted first goalie money when he is clearly still a back up.

Andersen and Raanta will be fine for the Canes and will free up more money to spend elsewhere.

Add in the trade for Bear and today has been pretty good.  Just get svech signed and I'll be even happier.
 
2021-07-28 1:53:24 PM  
Hamonic for two years at $3M, Halak for one year at $1.5, and Sutter for one year at $1M ... those are some good value contracts for Vancouver.

I think aliens kidnapped Jim Benning and replaced him with someone that makes sensible decisions.
 
2021-07-28 1:55:22 PM  
Savard to Montreal, 4 years, 3.5 per.  It's an upgrade.
 
2021-07-28 1:56:31 PM  
Philipp Grubauer to Seattle, reportedly a 6 year deal
 
2021-07-28 1:57:00 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Hamonic for two years at $3M, Halak for one year at $1.5, and Sutter for one year at $1M ... those are some good value contracts for Vancouver.

I think aliens kidnapped Jim Benning and replaced him with someone that makes sensible decisions.


I think the Sedins have drugged him up and stuffed him in a closet.
 
2021-07-28 1:57:24 PM  

Flappyhead: Not too crazy about Mrazek, still think the Leafs need a big trade.


Unless the Leafs are willing to move some significant salary, the 21-22 team will not be as good as the 20-21 team.
And by significant, I mean Nylander or Marner. Kerfoot won't cut it. They may have trouble making the playoffs this coming year.

And with Rielly approaching free agency, the year after that could be worse.
 
2021-07-28 1:59:22 PM  

desertgeek: Philipp Grubauer to Seattle, reportedly a 6 year deal


That puts the Avs in a tough place, but right now it's a buyers market for goalies so they should be able to find capable low-cost replacement.
 
2021-07-28 2:00:42 PM  

Special Agent: Flappyhead: Not too crazy about Mrazek, still think the Leafs need a big trade.

Unless the Leafs are willing to move some significant salary, the 21-22 team will not be as good as the 20-21 team.
And by significant, I mean Nylander or Marner. Kerfoot won't cut it. They may have trouble making the playoffs this coming year.

And with Rielly approaching free agency, the year after that could be worse.


I'm sticking to my guns about trading Marner.  They can get a significant return even if they have to bury money in the AHL to do it.
 
2021-07-28 2:02:40 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: desertgeek: Philipp Grubauer to Seattle, reportedly a 6 year deal

That puts the Avs in a tough place, but right now it's a buyers market for goalies so they should be able to find capable low-cost replacement.


Or they could try to trade for one (Coyotes have Kuemper available because he doesn't want to be around for a rebuild and has already rejected an extension)
 
2021-07-28 2:07:50 PM  
As to the first question, oh hell yea, subby.
Second, Playing switcharoo with the Leafs. I guess we'll see just exactly how much Mr. Mxyzptlk's numbers depended on Cane D.
Parise squares with the Isles.
 
2021-07-28 2:11:59 PM  

Zombie Jesus: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Hamonic for two years at $3M, Halak for one year at $1.5, and Sutter for one year at $1M ... those are some good value contracts for Vancouver.

I think aliens kidnapped Jim Benning and replaced him with someone that makes sensible decisions.

I think the Sedins have drugged him up and stuffed him in a closet.


They've got a crafty streak in them. Early in their career they would usually do each other's interviews, and on occasion whenever one of them got thrown out of the faceoff circle, they could skate over to the other, skate around a bit having a quick conversation with each other, and then skate right back into the faceoff circle without the linesman realizing that it was the same player.
 
2021-07-28 2:12:56 PM  
SEA
Philipp Grubauer
$35.4 M
6 yrs
$5.9 M
 
2021-07-28 2:13:34 PM  
Ken Holland overpays and underdevelops. It's what he does.

Lets Nyquist, Jurco, Nosek, Tatar, Mrazek go for basically nothing (or nothing for Nosek when he could have exposed Dekeyser). Hands Abdelkader first-liner money for third-liner production. Doesn't develop prospects to the point they leave (Jarnkrok, Svechnikov, Sheahan, etc) and wonders what to do when the big guns start to retire.

Enjoy, Edmonton. We don't want him.
 
2021-07-28 2:14:19 PM  
Michael Del Zotto gets another depth defenseman contract in Ottawa.
 
2021-07-28 2:16:20 PM  
A loss for the Habs:

LA
Phillip Danault
$33 M
6 yrs
$5.5 M
 
2021-07-28 2:30:18 PM  
$11mil for Brock farking McGinn???  WTF, Pens???
 
2021-07-28 2:34:44 PM  
Excellent depth pickup for Vancouver: Luke Schenn for two years at 850K per.
He was a good mentor to Hughes on the first visit to Vancouver.

The Kraken harness the power of the Schwartz, $5.5M x 5 yrs, and the Oilers resign Barrie for three years, $4.5M x 3 yrs.
 
2021-07-28 2:36:37 PM  
Wild: 1 yr $5m for Alex Goligoski. Decent pick up.
 
2021-07-28 2:47:14 PM  
I have no farking clue what Dundon and Waddell were thinking.
 
2021-07-28 2:56:02 PM  
Is Jake McCabe any good?  Assume decent recovery from knee surgery.   I have never thought about a blueliner from buffalo.
 
2021-07-28 2:58:29 PM  

SpockYouOut: Is Jake McCabe any good?  Assume decent recovery from knee surgery.   I have never thought about a blueliner from buffalo.


Neither have the Sabres.
 
2021-07-28 2:58:33 PM  

sprgrss: Polish Hussar: Carolina didn't want to pay Ned $3.5 million, so they traded him to Detroit for a 3rd round pick (94th overall) and the rights for pending UFA Jonathan Bernier.  They don't sign Berneir and send Mrazek to the Leafs in a deal that gets them Freddie Andersen, who they sign for 2 years at $4.5 million per year.  I get not wanting to take the risk that this was only going to be one hot season from Ned (personally, I think $3-3.5 million AAV was a worth risk taking), but this Andersen deal feels like an even bigger risk to me.

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I'm completely contented with the moves the Canes have made so far.  Ned had a small sample size with only 29 games played and he wanted first goalie money when he is clearly still a back up.

Andersen and Raanta will be fine for the Canes and will free up more money to spend elsewhere.

Add in the trade for Bear and today has been pretty good.  Just get svech signed and I'll be even happier.


DeAngelo signing has me worried.  Cancer on a good club can grow quickly.  Rod has his work cut out for him this year especially
 
2021-07-28 3:05:42 PM  

Mr.Uncle.Bill: DeAngelo signing has me worried.  Cancer on a good club can grow quickly.  Rod has his work cut out for him this year especially


Has he signed?  I would think they wouldn't sign him without talking with Skjei and Fast first.
 
2021-07-28 3:06:29 PM  

SpockYouOut: Is Jake McCabe any good?  Assume decent recovery from knee surgery.   I have never thought about a blueliner from buffalo.


He's got potential.. but at 27, I'm not sure he's gonna ever reach it.  He's a serviceable 2nd pair D-man.  Not a Power-play guy, but can eat minutes.
 
2021-07-28 3:06:34 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: A loss for the Habs:

LA
Phillip Danault
$33 M
6 yrs
$5.5 M


LA might not make the playoffs, but the Selke Trophy should be headed back.

Kings rookies and/or prospects going to have to provide firepower, though. Arthur Kaliyev, who was the best thing at the minor club? Vladmir Tkachyov, a one-year KHL signing that led St. Petersburg in '21? Lias Andersson, a NYR dropout who got hot late in the season? Gabe Vilardi finds his groove and stops being streaky? Rasmus Kupari, Alex Turcotte or Quentin Byfield get called up from development and stick?

Or does LA trade one or two of those names in the last paragraph for a legit scoring forward or top four defenseman ... oh wait, Alex Edler just signed for a year. Well, better than some of LA's D guys last year.

/Saad was rumored to be in LA's crosshairs
 
2021-07-28 3:06:41 PM  

Mr.Uncle.Bill: DeAngelo signing has me worried.  Cancer on a good club can grow quickly.  Rod has his work cut out for him this year especially


Not so hot take: Rod could easily beat the ever living sh*t out of DeAngelo if he starts acting up again.

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2021-07-28 3:06:55 PM  

sprgrss: Mr.Uncle.Bill: DeAngelo signing has me worried.  Cancer on a good club can grow quickly.  Rod has his work cut out for him this year especially

Has he signed?  I would think they wouldn't sign him without talking with Skjei and Fast first.


Yup.  He's a 'Cane now.
 
2021-07-28 3:07:16 PM  

Mr.Uncle.Bill: sprgrss: Polish Hussar: Carolina didn't want to pay Ned $3.5 million, so they traded him to Detroit for a 3rd round pick (94th overall) and the rights for pending UFA Jonathan Bernier.  They don't sign Berneir and send Mrazek to the Leafs in a deal that gets them Freddie Andersen, who they sign for 2 years at $4.5 million per year.  I get not wanting to take the risk that this was only going to be one hot season from Ned (personally, I think $3-3.5 million AAV was a worth risk taking), but this Andersen deal feels like an even bigger risk to me.

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I'm completely contented with the moves the Canes have made so far.  Ned had a small sample size with only 29 games played and he wanted first goalie money when he is clearly still a back up.

Andersen and Raanta will be fine for the Canes and will free up more money to spend elsewhere.

Add in the trade for Bear and today has been pretty good.  Just get svech signed and I'll be even happier.

DeAngelo signing has me worried.  Cancer on a good club can grow quickly.  Rod has his work cut out for him this year especially


If that unfortunate signing should come to pass, I expect that DeAngelo will learn really quickly what Rod and The WuTang Clan have in common.
 
2021-07-28 3:15:22 PM  

Killer Cars: Mr.Uncle.Bill: DeAngelo signing has me worried.  Cancer on a good club can grow quickly.  Rod has his work cut out for him this year especially

Not so hot take: Rod could easily beat the ever living sh*t out of DeAngelo if he starts acting up again.

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I wonder if the owner and the GM are going to let Rod bench DeAngelo and/or send him down to the AHL for as long as Rod deems fit if DeAngelo steps out of line.
 
2021-07-28 3:15:45 PM  
The NHL trade blog thinks that "DeAngelo's offense should replace what the Hurricanes got from defenseman Dougie Hamilton." I'd gladly take the bet that he won't come close. Indeed, I'd even go so far as to wager he won't be in the NHL by the end of the season. His attitude isn't going to cut it with Brind'amour and the fact no other team wanted him speaks volumes. Another truly awful signing after a series of them that is going to set the team back years.
 
2021-07-28 3:17:27 PM  

Practical_Draconian: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: A loss for the Habs:

LA
Phillip Danault
$33 M
6 yrs
$5.5 M

LA might not make the playoffs, but the Selke Trophy should be headed back.

Kings rookies and/or prospects going to have to provide firepower, though. Arthur Kaliyev, who was the best thing at the minor club? Vladmir Tkachyov, a one-year KHL signing that led St. Petersburg in '21? Lias Andersson, a NYR dropout who got hot late in the season? Gabe Vilardi finds his groove and stops being streaky? Rasmus Kupari, Alex Turcotte or Quentin Byfield get called up from development and stick?

Or does LA trade one or two of those names in the last paragraph for a legit scoring forward or top four defenseman ... oh wait, Alex Edler just signed for a year. Well, better than some of LA's D guys last year.

/Saad was rumored to be in LA's crosshairs


Edler's a solid minute-eater and a good-character guy, but he's too expensive to keep in Vancouver in terms of using up ice time that younger players need. He's a lot slower now so depth stay-at-home roles are his wheelhouse now. Would like to have seen him retire in Vancouver.

Hamonic's a cheaper, faster, younger option.
 
2021-07-28 3:28:54 PM  
Looks like Glendening signed with the Stars for a couple years.
 
2021-07-28 3:31:22 PM  

abmoraz: up.  He's a 'Cane now.


I haven't seen anything indicating that he's signed with the Canes.
 
2021-07-28 3:32:11 PM  

sprgrss: abmoraz: up.  He's a 'Cane now.

I haven't seen anything indicating that he's signed with the Canes.


nevermind, I see it now.

I mean for his production the Canes got a steal at only 1 million per.
 
2021-07-28 3:36:21 PM  

Aezetyr: Looks like Glendening signed with the Stars for a couple years.


2x$1.5 million was what I saw on Friedman's twitter feed.  Can't say I blame him wanting to go play for the Stars.  If a few things go right for them, I could see Dallas making a decent playoff run.
 
2021-07-28 3:38:03 PM  

Polish Hussar: Aezetyr: Looks like Glendening signed with the Stars for a couple years.

2x$1.5 million was what I saw on Friedman's twitter feed.  Can't say I blame him wanting to go play for the Stars.  If a few things go right for them, I could see Dallas making a decent playoff run.


I see they picked up Holtby for a half of what Vancouver was paying him last year.
 
2021-07-28 3:45:08 PM  

sprgrss: sprgrss: abmoraz: up.  He's a 'Cane now.

I haven't seen anything indicating that he's signed with the Canes.

nevermind, I see it now.

I mean for his production the Canes got a steal at only 1 million per.


He had one good season with the Rangers and the rest were mediocre to bad. And he sure seems to be a selfish asshat based on his on and off ice antics, and Svetch already occupies that spot given his proclivity to taking offense zone penalties. This reeks of Dundon being cheap and coasting on past success to try and fill the arena more than any real team building plan or commitment to spending what it takes to put together a top tier squad.
 
2021-07-28 3:52:34 PM  

Samsquantch: sprgrss: sprgrss: abmoraz: up.  He's a 'Cane now.

I haven't seen anything indicating that he's signed with the Canes.

nevermind, I see it now.

I mean for his production the Canes got a steal at only 1 million per.

He had one good season with the Rangers and the rest were mediocre to bad. And he sure seems to be a selfish asshat based on his on and off ice antics, and Svetch already occupies that spot given his proclivity to taking offense zone penalties. This reeks of Dundon being cheap and coasting on past success to try and fill the arena more than any real team building plan or commitment to spending what it takes to put together a top tier squad.


Yeah, let's not forget how back in February the Rangers sent DeAngelo home, put him on waivers, and then bought him out after he cleared because of his behavior.  He played a total of SIX games in the 2020-21 season.  He had 1 point, an assist, in those 6 games.
 
2021-07-28 3:56:42 PM  

Samsquantch: He had one good season with the Rangers and the rest were mediocre to bad. And he sure seems to be a selfish asshat based on his on and off ice antics, and Svetch already occupies that spot given his proclivity to taking offense zone penalties. This reeks of Dundon being cheap and coasting on past success to try and fill the arena more than any real team building plan or commitment to spending what it takes to put together a top tier squad.


I don't think you can say that Dundon is cheap given that he has spent at the cap since buying the team.  Once svech is signed, I see a few more moves and the Canes will again be at the cap.
 
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