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(NPR)   The Aurora police had a hard-to-kick habit of killing and beating civilians, so a "police accountability" law was passed that required police officers to stop their colleagues when it happened. And here's Exhibit 1 on how it seems to be working   (npr.org) divider line
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2021-07-28 8:41:16 AM  
Cops will adapt.

"He fell down the stairs"
"He was coming right at us"
"We both saw the knife"

Laws that require cops to be honest about what happened might as well be written on farts.
 
2021-07-28 8:52:08 AM  
Thumb Lives Matter.
 
2021-07-28 8:53:17 AM  
The suspect was actually saying "your killing me bro".  Cop was a grammar nazi.
 
2021-07-28 8:54:32 AM  

SpectroBoy: Cops will adapt.

"He fell down the stairs"
"He was coming right at us"
"We both saw the knife"

Laws that require cops to be honest about what happened might as well be written on farts.


Which seems like a good thing they are strengthening body cam requirements.
 
2021-07-28 8:54:46 AM  
His partner who failed to act was arrested and the police chief addressed it as "A despicable act."

I'd say that's a large improvement over calling other officers to the scene to join the assault and the police chief announcing that they investigated the incident and found no wrong-doing.
 
2021-07-28 8:56:03 AM  
Let Officer Thumbie McPowertrip's pension fund pay for the settlement.
 
2021-07-28 8:56:34 AM  
Kinda like a Good Samaritan law for cops? Good luck with that.
 
2021-07-28 8:56:51 AM  
Damn, Mr Potato Head went hardcore into roids ever since Mrs Potato Head dumped him for a cucumber.
 
2021-07-28 8:57:48 AM  
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2021-07-28 8:58:21 AM  

Gaddiel: SpectroBoy: Cops will adapt.

"He fell down the stairs"
"He was coming right at us"
"We both saw the knife"

Laws that require cops to be honest about what happened might as well be written on farts.

Which seems like a good thing they are strengthening body cam requirements.


Right.

And Trump will appear in front of the select committee when subpoenaed.
 
2021-07-28 8:58:57 AM  
Chicago - Hard habit to break
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2021-07-28 8:59:45 AM  
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2021-07-28 9:02:32 AM  
It's only a few bad apples, and a few more who stand around doing nothing about the bad apples, and then tens of thousands of bad apples asking the apple union to help the bad apples to continue to get away with shiat.
 
2021-07-28 9:02:55 AM  
"We're disgusted. We're angry. This is not police work. We don't train this."

No you're not, no you're not, yes it is and yes you do.
 
2021-07-28 9:03:17 AM  
Haubert and Martinez were dispatched Friday afternoon to investigate a trespassing report. The officers encountered three people who had outstanding felony warrants and tried to arrest them. Two ran way, the documents say.


Apparently chasing down the two who ran was too much work. I mean, nobody who runs away from the police is suspicious or anything right? Clearly the guy who stayed and didn't resist is the most sus and deserved to be nearly summarily executed.

A police accountability law is fine and good, but they should lose their jobs at a minimum just as an internal procedural matter...
=Smidge=
 
2021-07-28 9:03:20 AM  
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2021-07-28 9:06:08 AM  
Wilson said she moved quickly to put the officers on leave and release the body camera footage to shed light on an incident she said is "anomaly"

I feel like if it was an anomaly you probably wouldn't need a law requiring police to stop other police from breaking the law.  It's not an anomaly.  It's normal.  That's the whole godamn point of having the law, is that bullshiat like this is normal for you assholes.
 
2021-07-28 9:06:14 AM  
"This is not the Aurora police department," Wilson said.


Um.....yes, it is.
 
2021-07-28 9:07:57 AM  
FTA: "we don't train this."

Yes, yes you do. When you send rookies out with vets, the vets train this. When you squeeze out the guys who report it, you train this. When you rehire cops fired elsewhere, you train this. When you seize equipment and arrest people for filming you while your body cameras are off, you train this. When you teach people to kill for good sex, YOU FUGGIN TRAIN THIS.
 
2021-07-28 9:09:15 AM  
 
2021-07-28 9:09:24 AM  

Smidge204: Haubert and Martinez were dispatched Friday afternoon to investigate a trespassing report. The officers encountered three people who had outstanding felony warrants and tried to arrest them. Two ran way, the documents say.


Apparently chasing down the two who ran was too much work.


"Everybody knows, if the police have to come and get you, they're bringing an ass kicking with them."
How not to get your ass kicked by the police - Chris Rock
Youtube tYmzbO0cUHo
 
2021-07-28 9:10:11 AM  

spottymax: Let Officer Thumbie McPowertrip's pension fund pay for the settlement.


That's a possibility since the same law that requires officers to intervene when other officers are abusing their authority also removed Qualified Immunity.
 
2021-07-28 9:10:31 AM  
this guy looks like a computer composite of a racist violent cop (sadly that feels redundant)
 
2021-07-28 9:11:36 AM  

Tchernobog: Wilson said she moved quickly to put the officers on leave and release the body camera footage to shed light on an incident she said is "anomaly"

I feel like if it was an anomaly you probably wouldn't need a law requiring police to stop other police from breaking the law.  It's not an anomaly.  It's normal.  That's the whole godamn point of having the law, is that bullshiat like this is normal for you assholes.


But the fact that it seems the police Chief quickly took the correct steps seems like progress. Maybe it isn't an anomaly and she only wishes it was, but if this carries through and they keep responding like this to officer misconduct, it seems like things may actually improve. Not saying they will, but a step in the right direction is better than nothing.
 
2021-07-28 9:14:02 AM  

Gaddiel: Tchernobog: Wilson said she moved quickly to put the officers on leave and release the body camera footage to shed light on an incident she said is "anomaly"

I feel like if it was an anomaly you probably wouldn't need a law requiring police to stop other police from breaking the law.  It's not an anomaly.  It's normal.  That's the whole godamn point of having the law, is that bullshiat like this is normal for you assholes.

But the fact that it seems the police Chief quickly took the correct steps seems like progress. Maybe it isn't an anomaly and she only wishes it was, but if this carries through and they keep responding like this to officer misconduct, it seems like things may actually improve. Not saying they will, but a step in the right direction is better than nothing.


Seems to me more akin to Lucy totally swearing she won't pull the football away THIS time.
 
2021-07-28 9:15:27 AM  
Remember, when one is induced into a seizure after being struck in the head, that's "resisting arrest with violence". When one reaches for ones wallet after being asked for ID, that's a "furtive movement towards a weapon". When one splashes blood on an officer while that officer is in the process of apprehending one, that's "felony assault on an Officer". When one questions why one was pulled over, that's "behaving in a defiant and evasive manner".

All of which are perfectly cromulent justifications for an officer to do his duty and execute one on the spot, by any means at their disposal.
 
2021-07-28 9:16:12 AM  
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Who could've possibly guessed that this fine gentleman wasn't the epitome of upstanding law enforcement, with nothing but a deep love of fair, equal, and respectful service to the community? How could we have missed it??
 
2021-07-28 9:17:54 AM  
FTA: "A Colorado police officer has been arrested on felony charges after a video showed him using his pistol to beat a man he was attempting to arrest, choking him and threatening to kill him, and a second officer was also arrested after authorities say she failed to stop her colleague as required by a new police accountability law. "

Well, it's a start. Better than nothing.
 
2021-07-28 9:19:15 AM  
Cop's mugshot looks like an extra from American History X.
 
2021-07-28 9:19:26 AM  

Corn_Fed: [Fark user image 425x318]

Who could've possibly guessed that this fine gentleman wasn't the epitome of upstanding law enforcement, with nothing but a deep love of fair, equal, and respectful service to the community? How could we have missed it??


I'd hate to see what his wife's and kids faces or what their skull x-ray images might show.
 
2021-07-28 9:23:56 AM  

MythDragon: Smidge204: Haubert and Martinez were dispatched Friday afternoon to investigate a trespassing report. The officers encountered three people who had outstanding felony warrants and tried to arrest them. Two ran way, the documents say.


Apparently chasing down the two who ran was too much work.

"Everybody knows, if the police have to come and get you, they're bringing an ass kicking with them."
[YouTube video: How not to get your ass kicked by the police - Chris Rock]


Long time ago I worked with a retired MA State Trooper who said something along the lines of "back in the day, God help the asshole who made a trooper get their boots dirty."

He was a Statey in the 60s and early 70s.
 
2021-07-28 9:24:29 AM  

squidloe: Cop's mugshot looks like an extra from American History X.


Extras don't get speaking roles. 

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2021-07-28 9:24:30 AM  

Corn_Fed: [Fark user image image 425x318]

Who could've possibly guessed that this fine gentleman wasn't the epitome of upstanding law enforcement, with nothing but a deep love of fair, equal, and respectful service to the community? How could we have missed it??


Hey come on now to be fair how else is he going to get laid.

Got to get them badge bunnies
 
2021-07-28 9:25:20 AM  

spottymax: Let Officer Thumbie McPowertrip's pension fund pay for the settlement.


No, take it out of the entire department's pension fund.  When the whole rank and file allows this shiat to keep happening they can all pony up.
 
2021-07-28 9:25:42 AM  

squidloe: Cop's mugshot looks like an extra from American History X.


Close, he was in American History XXXL.
 
2021-07-28 9:29:04 AM  

Corn_Fed: [Fark user image 425x318]

Who could've possibly guessed that this fine gentleman wasn't the epitome of upstanding law enforcement, with nothing but a deep love of fair, equal, and respectful service to the community? How could we have missed it??


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... only much more violent.
 
2021-07-28 9:29:11 AM  

Gaddiel: Tchernobog: Wilson said she moved quickly to put the officers on leave and release the body camera footage to shed light on an incident she said is "anomaly"

I feel like if it was an anomaly you probably wouldn't need a law requiring police to stop other police from breaking the law.  It's not an anomaly.  It's normal.  That's the whole godamn point of having the law, is that bullshiat like this is normal for you assholes.

But the fact that it seems the police Chief quickly took the correct steps seems like progress. Maybe it isn't an anomaly and she only wishes it was, but if this carries through and they keep responding like this to officer misconduct, it seems like things may actually improve. Not saying they will, but a step in the right direction is better than nothing.


She's a 23 year veteran of policing, not farking Dalton. These guys will be on the payroll for a year while the case settles and that's exactly how she wants it. She wants to prove to me and mine she's for real about cleaning up the place, take a bat to their shins and make them medically unemployable by the next department, too. Put them in a wheelchair for life. Then tell everyone they fell down the stairs or whatever the lie is.


Oh, and if the department has this much of a problem, they'll have an active complaints department. Listen to whats being said and fire them before it gets this bad.
 
2021-07-28 9:31:02 AM  
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You give thumbs

a bad name.

 
2021-07-28 9:33:39 AM  

Gaddiel: SpectroBoy: Cops will adapt.

"He fell down the stairs"
"He was coming right at us"
"We both saw the knife"

Laws that require cops to be honest about what happened might as well be written on farts.

Which seems like a good thing they are strengthening body cam requirements.



I hope they actually strengthen them. But, IMO, if cops can turn off their cameras they might as well not have them. They will get better at turning them off at the "right" times.
 
2021-07-28 9:35:49 AM  

squidloe: Cop's mugshot looks like an extra from American History X Horror Story : Cops.

 
2021-07-28 9:36:27 AM  
Sure is a Private Pyle looking motherfarker ain't he?
 
2021-07-28 10:04:49 AM  
So Farva shaved?
 
2021-07-28 10:15:51 AM  
FTA: On the footage, Haubert told a sergeant after the arrest, "I was going to shoot him but I didn't know if I had a round in it or not," the documents state. Haubert also said blood on the man was from "pistol-whipping him."

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest this guy never thought he did anything wrong. Look at this statement to the sergeant after the incident. He clearly had no legal justification to shoot but straight out admitted to intending to shoot the victim then followed that up by admitting to pistol whipping the victim.

The only way this guy says those things is if he thought he was in the clear.

I hope these charges (and their successful prosecution) start to change that mentality - perhaps then we will see the change we have been demanding.

(And for further comment, how does a cop not know if he has a round chambered - is this guy related to Barney Fife?)
 
2021-07-28 10:19:11 AM  

thorpe: [media.npr.org image 850x637]You give thumbsa bad name.


Just would you LOOK at those pouty lips.
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2021-07-28 10:34:59 AM  
Gaddiel: .....

But the fact that it seems the police Chief quickly took the correct steps seems like progress. Maybe it isn't an anomaly and she only wishes it was, but if this carries through and they keep responding like this to officer misconduct, it seems like things may actually improve. Not saying they will, but a step in the right direction is better than nothing.


I don't know how the Denver area PD's have gotten away with such little scrutiny over the last decade. Police abuse is almost rampant. I lived there for a year (work related) and a cop beating a suspect was almost a weekly occurrence. I saw 2 cops outside Aurora knock some kid off a bike and beat the shiat out of him on the side of the road.
 
2021-07-28 10:36:17 AM  

Tchernobog: Wilson said she moved quickly to put the officers on leave and release the body camera footage to shed light on an incident she said is "anomaly"

I feel like if it was an anomaly you probably wouldn't need a law requiring police to stop other police from breaking the law.  It's not an anomaly.  It's normal.  That's the whole godamn point of having the law, is that bullshiat like this is normal for you assholes.


Ever since the passage of the "cops aren't accountable for anything" law, police forces have been a haven of bullies and thugs.
 
2021-07-28 10:49:42 AM  
Am I the only one here who loves this story?  The citizens of Aurora saw a problem, and enacted legislation to address it.  This resulted in not only LEOs being held accountable for the actions of coworkers, but resulted in ACTUAL CHARGES against LEOs.  Which from my point of view is darn near the only thing that will change things.

Apart from the dude who almost died (and I'm not ignoring that), this looks a little like a success story.
 
2021-07-28 10:50:24 AM  
FTA: "I was going to shoot him but I didn't know if I had a round in it or not,".

(facepalm)
 
2021-07-28 10:56:50 AM  
America is a shiathole country, and the police are tasked not only with cleaning up all the shiat, but also enforcing racist policies that keep us firmly in the shiatter.

This has nothing at all to do with the coffee cake I am presently enjoying.  It's quite tasty.
 
2021-07-28 10:58:02 AM  
omg bbq - 40%police.jpeg

"Police obfuscate while still beating the crap out of people for looking cross-eyed at them. Film at... my apologies, the film was lost"

(BTW, so, where are the donations going... besides 'to fight Covid-19'? Pretty vague there...)

/sorry, but in today's climate, doing reams of good is instantly nullified by one bad thing.
//and with their ledgers... it is going to take more than that to wipe all that red away...
///BTW, so, where are the donations going... besides 'to fight Covid-19'? Pretty vague there...
 
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