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(The Drive)   General Atomics unveils new "LongShot" Aircraft-Launched Air-To-Air combat drone. Will it work? Well, that's a . . . yeah   (thedrive.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Missile, Air-to-air missile, Unmanned aerial vehicle, LongShot program, United States Air Force, Jet engine, Cruise missile, GA-ASI  
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2021-07-27 11:37:43 PM  
Imagine a world where the US Air Force has surprisingly few farks to give about the buildup in China's air force.

Imagine a GIANT hanger that was built over the taxiway at Area 51 before the B-21 program was far enough along to need it.

Now Imagine a stealthy mothership "bomber, " that's really more like a flying aircraft carrier for drone air to air fighters.

We know 1 and 2 are true.  I hope 3cis too.
 
2021-07-27 11:41:20 PM  
The Simpsons - The Wars of the Future
Youtube oazwTDeqF54
 
2021-07-28 2:58:09 AM  
Wait. The Long Shot was made by General Products, not General Atomics.

/Somebody's a Larry Niven fan.
 
2021-07-28 3:58:57 AM  

Jesus McSordid: Wait. The Long Shot was made by General Products, not General Atomics.

/Somebody's a Larry Niven fan.


Louis Wu would be proud
 
2021-07-28 4:28:22 AM  
I suppose it works as well as any concept drawing.  Should I start posting stories where someone draws Emily Blunt as Mrs. Fantastic with the headline, "Leaked photos of Emily Blunt in the MCU!"
 
2021-07-28 4:29:21 AM  
It's already obsolete. There's a company developing a drone that launches a manned fighter that launches a drone armed with missiles.
 
2021-07-28 4:35:21 AM  

Warthog: Imagine a world where the US Air Force has surprisingly few farks to give about the buildup in China's air force.

Imagine a GIANT hanger that was built over the taxiway at Area 51 before the B-21 program was far enough along to need it.

Now Imagine a stealthy mothership "bomber, " that's really more like a flying aircraft carrier for drone air to air fighters.

We know 1 and 2 are true.  I hope 3cis too.


You dont need a stealthy mothership bomber. You need something thats bigger than a b52 but has the same or better fuel efficency and can cruise high enough to act as a mobile dropship so it can reach the combat zone out of ground defense range but still give a big area for ita drones to work in
 
2021-07-28 4:39:39 AM  

Birnone: It's already obsolete. There's a company developing a drone that launches a manned fighter that launches a drone armed with missiles.


Kamikaze drones?
 
2021-07-28 4:43:04 AM  
 
2021-07-28 4:57:55 AM  
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2021-07-28 5:17:21 AM  
While adding LongShot to legacy bombers, such as the B-52H, is a clear goal,

To put that in perspective - this beast would probably be about the same size as the AGM-86 ALCM, and Miss Buffy can carry 12 of those externally.  Datalink them to a single F-22 or F-35 (or an E-3, for that matter) and even if you don't get a single hit the bad guys are now low on fuel, ammo, and countermeasures, which tilts the game way in favor of the United States By-God Air Force.

Of course, the REAL fun will be standing in the O-Club when some Buff driver comes in claiming a kill.
 
2021-07-28 6:29:03 AM  
We totally need this now that the Raptor and Lightening are starting to reach the end of their mission life.
 
2021-07-28 6:39:18 AM  

Warthog: Imagine a world where the US Air Force has surprisingly few farks to give about the buildup in China's air force.

Imagine a GIANT hanger that was built over the taxiway at Area 51 before the B-21 program was far enough along to need it.

Now Imagine a stealthy mothership "bomber, " that's really more like a flying aircraft carrier for drone air to air fighters.

We know 1 and 2 are true.  I hope 3cis too.


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2021-07-28 6:46:32 AM  

ReluctantLondon: Warthog: Imagine a world where the US Air Force has surprisingly few farks to give about the buildup in China's air force.

Imagine a GIANT hanger that was built over the taxiway at Area 51 before the B-21 program was far enough along to need it.

Now Imagine a stealthy mothership "bomber, " that's really more like a flying aircraft carrier for drone air to air fighters.

We know 1 and 2 are true.  I hope 3cis too.

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/sorry
/ok maybe not
 
2021-07-28 6:52:10 AM  
So, a guided missile that carries MOAR guided missiles?

Not the worst idea if you have a high enough altitude platform that fighters aren't much of a worry about. Not only do you have longer range strike capability, but a bomber that can carry its own independent missile escort makes for less tense runs.
 
2021-07-28 7:08:56 AM  
From the people that brought you EMALS, we bring you something else...
 
2021-07-28 7:39:22 AM  

Kirby Muxloe: Lockheed A-12/D-21 redux??

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The D-21 wasn't meant for combat. Although Cobra's version of it certainly was...

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2021-07-28 7:41:06 AM  
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2021-07-28 7:41:12 AM  

AtlanticCoast63: While adding LongShot to legacy bombers, such as the B-52H, is a clear goal,

To put that in perspective - this beast would probably be about the same size as the AGM-86 ALCM, and Miss Buffy can carry 12 of those externally.  Datalink them to a single F-22 or F-35 (or an E-3, for that matter) and even if you don't get a single hit the bad guys are now low on fuel, ammo, and countermeasures, which tilts the game way in favor of the United States By-God Air Force.

Of course, the REAL fun will be standing in the O-Club when some Buff driver comes in claiming a kill.


"How did you get your double Ace?"

"So there we were 200 miles off the enemy coast, ripple firing Long Shots..."
 
2021-07-28 7:44:17 AM  
Carrier Has Arrived - Starcraft 2
Youtube HcELlXAN31Y
 
2021-07-28 7:47:30 AM  
They've "unveiled" a drawing...

/Honestly thought General Atomics was just Fallout lore...
 
2021-07-28 8:42:08 AM  

foo monkey: I suppose it works as well as any concept drawing.  Should I start posting stories where someone draws Emily Blunt as Mrs. Fantastic with the headline, "Leaked photos of Emily Blunt in the MCU!"


It's like Iran's paper mache missles.
 
2021-07-28 9:15:19 AM  
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2021-07-28 9:22:49 AM  

AtlanticCoast63: While adding LongShot to legacy bombers, such as the B-52H, is a clear goal,

To put that in perspective - this beast would probably be about the same size as the AGM-86 ALCM, and Miss Buffy can carry 12 of those externally.  Datalink them to a single F-22 or F-35 (or an E-3, for that matter) and even if you don't get a single hit the bad guys are now low on fuel, ammo, and countermeasures, which tilts the game way in favor of the United States By-God Air Force.

Of course, the REAL fun will be standing in the O-Club when some Buff driver comes in claiming a kill.


Fun Fact, the F-15E has a single air-to-air kill recorded. Dropped a bomb on a helicopter.
 
2021-07-28 11:12:15 AM  

Where wolf: AtlanticCoast63: While adding LongShot to legacy bombers, such as the B-52H, is a clear goal,

To put that in perspective - this beast would probably be about the same size as the AGM-86 ALCM, and Miss Buffy can carry 12 of those externally.  Datalink them to a single F-22 or F-35 (or an E-3, for that matter) and even if you don't get a single hit the bad guys are now low on fuel, ammo, and countermeasures, which tilts the game way in favor of the United States By-God Air Force.

Of course, the REAL fun will be standing in the O-Club when some Buff driver comes in claiming a kill.

Fun Fact, the F-15E has a single air-to-air kill recorded. Dropped a bomb on a helicopter.


Wha?
 
2021-07-28 11:19:40 AM  
Being a pacifist and a technophile sucks.

Because that's pretty damned cool.

A plane that fires smaller planes that fire missiles.

Usually you have to put in quite a few quarters to get that many powerups.
 
2021-07-28 11:26:12 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Where wolf: AtlanticCoast63: While adding LongShot to legacy bombers, such as the B-52H, is a clear goal,

To put that in perspective - this beast would probably be about the same size as the AGM-86 ALCM, and Miss Buffy can carry 12 of those externally.  Datalink them to a single F-22 or F-35 (or an E-3, for that matter) and even if you don't get a single hit the bad guys are now low on fuel, ammo, and countermeasures, which tilts the game way in favor of the United States By-God Air Force.

Of course, the REAL fun will be standing in the O-Club when some Buff driver comes in claiming a kill.

Fun Fact, the F-15E has a single air-to-air kill recorded. Dropped a bomb on a helicopter.

Wha?


On 14 February, an F-15E scored its only air-to-air kill of the war: a Mil Mi-24 helicopter. While responding to a request for help by US Special Forces, five Iraqi helicopters were spotted. The lead F-15E of two, via its FLIR, acquired a helicopter in the process of unloading Iraqi soldiers, and released a GBU-10 bomb. The F-15E crew thought the bomb had missed its target and were preparing to use a Sidewinder when the helicopter was destroyed. The Special Forces team estimated that the Hind was roughly 800 feet (240 m) over the ground when the 2,000 lb (910 kg) bomb hit its target.[54] As another Coalition bombing operation had commenced, the F-15Es disengaged from combat with the remaining helicopters.[51]
 
2021-07-28 11:26:29 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Birnone: It's already obsolete. There's a company developing a drone that launches a manned fighter that launches a drone armed with missiles.

Kamikaze drones?


Short story "The Feeling of Power", by Isaac Asimov.
 
2021-07-28 11:34:39 AM  

clkeagle: Kirby Muxloe: Lockheed A-12/D-21 redux??

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The D-21 wasn't meant for combat. Although Cobra's version of it certainly was...

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Hai Guys!

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2021-07-28 1:54:22 PM  

clkeagle: Kirby Muxloe: Lockheed A-12/D-21 redux??

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The D-21 wasn't meant for combat. Although Cobra's version of it certainly was...

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That thing had a full set of linear stairs.  Trump could only afford spiral ones.
 
2021-07-28 2:01:07 PM  

hubiestubert: So, a guided missile that carries MOAR guided missiles?

Not the worst idea if you have a high enough altitude platform that fighters aren't much of a worry about. Not only do you have longer range strike capability, but a bomber that can carry its own independent missile escort makes for less tense runs.


Yo dawg
I heard you like missiles
So I put missiles inside yo missiles
...

However, "a high enough altitude platform that fighters aren't much of a worry about" has meant exoatmospheric vehicles since the 1960s. You can't fly higher and faster than a SAM without going to space, and even that's dubious.

But if the B-21 can carry a load of these, plus some DEWs like a laser dome or a weaponized AESA, we're basically one stage away from being able to actually take out the goddamn Moon Nazis and all of this defense expenditure will finally pay off.
 
2021-07-28 4:36:48 PM  

Warthog: Imagine a world where the US Air Force has surprisingly few farks to give about the buildup in China's air force.

Imagine a GIANT hanger that was built over the taxiway at Area 51 before the B-21 program was far enough along to need it.

Now Imagine a stealthy mothership "bomber, " that's really more like a flying aircraft carrier for drone air to air fighters.

We know 1 and 2 are true.  I hope 3cis too.


Imagine a world where the US cannot fight a war without Chinese manufactured components

What's that?
You don't have to imagine it because it's already here?
Yup

NEWSFLASH: short of a nuclear exchange the US cannot win a war against China.

You can't fight your own supply chain.
 
2021-07-28 5:54:20 PM  
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LAUNCH FIGHTERS
 
2021-07-28 5:57:21 PM  

taintbaggins: Warthog: Imagine a world where the US Air Force has surprisingly few farks to give about the buildup in China's air force.

Imagine a GIANT hanger that was built over the taxiway at Area 51 before the B-21 program was far enough along to need it.

Now Imagine a stealthy mothership "bomber, " that's really more like a flying aircraft carrier for drone air to air fighters.

We know 1 and 2 are true.  I hope 3cis too.

Imagine a world where the US cannot fight a war without Chinese manufactured components

What's that?
You don't have to imagine it because it's already here?
Yup

NEWSFLASH: short of a nuclear exchange the US cannot win a war against China.

You can't fight your own supply chain.


The correct amount of sabre-rattling must be maintained at all times in order to keep up the demand, though, don't forget.
 
2021-07-28 7:22:39 PM  

taintbaggins: NEWSFLASH: short of a nuclear exchange the US cannot win a war against China.

You can't fight your own supply chain.


Right now seems to be an appropriate time to learn that the supply chain is double-edged, and I'm talking in reference to raw materials.  The "cheap Chinese steel" trope has its roots in their dependence on the US, Australia and Canada.  The rest of the world unfortunately needs coking coal as well, and the timeframe for perfecting synthetic sources is about in line with pulling rare earths from mine tailings and lakes like GM is posturing to do with lithium.

Anything either does is just asserting strength or pay-per-view pugilistic opera complete with really bad rage arias.
 
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