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2021-07-25 1:05:43 AM  
At least the Longhorns-Aggies rivalry will be rightfully revived. Not a fan of either team, but who doesn't like the Lone Star Showdown?
 
2021-07-25 1:07:21 AM  
I mean, there are two ways to look at this.

1) A&M knows they're done in a few years

2) Texas is the #3 athletic school in its own state, and that's why they're doing this
 
2021-07-25 1:08:30 AM  
I do hope this results in, say, Iowa State joining the Big Ten... eleven... twelve... thirteen... fourteen...
 
2021-07-25 1:21:22 AM  
247Sports says Texas would have to give up the Longhorn Network. That's 150 million
 
2021-07-25 1:23:06 AM  

puffy999: I do hope this results in, say, Iowa State joining the Big Ten... eleven... twelve... thirteen... fourteen...


...maybe West Virginia too so Penn State can revive that rivalry. All we need is Pittsburgh to join the Big Ten and it is like old times again.
 
2021-07-25 1:29:53 AM  

freddyV: 247Sports says Texas would have to give up the Longhorn Network. That's 150 million


Oh, yeah, that's why they've been doing what they do.

It's also why I actually wanted the Pac12 to pursue Texas, because they actually know how to NOT fark up a network.
 
2021-07-25 3:12:31 AM  
A&M will lose every Texas HS prospect unless they get into a bidding war with UT.

Cincy joins the Big 10, Ohio State joins the SEC ... film at 11.
 
2021-07-25 3:21:06 AM  

Stud Gerbil: A&M will lose every Texas HS prospect unless they get into a bidding war with UT.

Cincy joins the Big 10, Ohio State joins the SEC ... film at 11.


Eventually the SEC will grow so large it will have to split off a second SEC.

The SECs will be amazing.
 
2021-07-25 4:52:53 AM  
It may cause some pain for A&M, but basically this is a good deal for the SEC, if they realign properly. Some nice rivalries can form and everyone will benefit. The big loser will be the revitalized LSU-A&M rivalry, it was forming into a real good one.
 
2021-07-25 5:09:46 AM  

capacc: . The big loser will be the revitalized LSU-A&M rivalry, it was forming into a real good one.


This just sounds like versions of oral sex.
 
2021-07-25 8:59:51 AM  

freddyV: 247Sports says Texas would have to give up the Longhorn Network. That's 150 million


Chump change to UT. This is all about recruit access. They are getting killed now that the Big 12 is what it is. A&M is terrified that they'll have to compete with UT again.
 
2021-07-25 9:07:04 AM  
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2021-07-25 9:23:35 AM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: [Fark user image 425x522]


Hmmm... that actually makes it look like there'll be regret involved eventually by multiple teams....
 
2021-07-25 10:04:28 AM  

FriarReb98: 7th Son of a 7th Son: [Fark user image 425x522]

Hmmm... that actually makes it look like there'll be regret involved eventually by multiple teams....


So, an actual real world marriage. This may work.
 
2021-07-25 10:33:59 AM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: [Fark user image image 425x522]


At which point they'll have to go to a 4-pod system.  LSU boosters are not going to stand for only seeing Florida once every eight years, for example.
 
2021-07-25 11:08:24 AM  

UNC_Samurai: 7th Son of a 7th Son: [Fark user image image 425x522]

At which point they'll have to go to a 4-pod system.  LSU boosters are not going to stand for only seeing Florida once every eight years, for example.


7 division games still leaves 1 cross-division rivalry, so LSU-Florida is safe.

The more interesting question is how much they shift the other permanent match-ups for Bama, AU, Tenn, and Georgia.  Two of them are not going to enjoy being stuck with an additional top10 game every year.
But my guess (based on current program strengths) would be:
Bama - OU
Georgia - Texas
Auburn - TAM
Tenn - Mizzou

OR, do they rearrange the other current match-ups to give OU, Texas, Bama and Georgia easier draws.
 
2021-07-25 11:11:24 AM  
Texas A&M was one of the few schools where smart people go on purpose.
 
2021-07-25 12:12:32 PM  
Seeing Texas ass to mouth fail is always a good situation. farkin hayseeds.
 
2021-07-25 12:27:59 PM  

kdawg7736: puffy999: I do hope this results in, say, Iowa State joining the Big Ten... eleven... twelve... thirteen... fourteen...

...maybe West Virginia too so Penn State can revive that rivalry. All we need is Pittsburgh to join the Big Ten and it is like old times again.


The Big 10 will take KU and Iowa State, while West Virginia will go to the ACC. KU gives the Big Ten a top 3-5 basketball school and someone for Rutgers to beat every year in football.
 
2021-07-25 12:32:57 PM  
This is the beginning of the end for college football.

At least the 120ish team fbs is different than the nfl, for a number of reasons. However the secification of the sport is going to make it a shiatty nfl.  I don't see why people are going to be willing to pay big bucks for the same but worse product.
 
2021-07-25 12:35:27 PM  
Combine all the teams onto two conferences. Then those two champions play in the title game.
 
2021-07-25 1:33:17 PM  

Stud Gerbil: Cincy joins the Big 10,


Any Ohio team that tries will see their chances strangled in the crib by Ohio State with the decaying corpse chopped up and sent to each MAC school in the state as a warning. Ohio State helps out programs in the same state by playing them, it has no interest because it would not serve their interests to permit any shot at creating a potential competitor regardless of the lack of any real world chances of it ever coming to fruition.
 
2021-07-25 2:11:45 PM  
Texas to the SEC will increase the conference literacy rate by 30%.
 
2021-07-25 2:17:41 PM  

puffy999: I do hope this results in, say, Iowa State joining the Big Ten... eleven... twelve... thirteen... fourteen...


(Jayhawk fan) - if we go B1G, (and that's still a big if... if they wanted KU ten years ago, KU would have gone instantly), I'd love it if the Clones came along.  I've always liked y'all and time I've spent in Ames.

However, I just don't see it in terms of revenue, fan base, or TVs.  Kansas (KC) is on the bubble.  B1G would rather poach elsewhere (Colorado, UVa, UNC... maybe Mizzou or Tx A&M if they're really salty).  Iowa State is obviously better now athletically, but honestly SUNY-Buffalo (another AAU school) probably has more upside.  And neither of them is better than not adding either.
 
2021-07-25 2:25:32 PM  

WoodyHayes: Stud Gerbil: Cincy joins the Big 10,

Any Ohio team that tries will see their chances strangled in the crib by Ohio State with the decaying corpse chopped up and sent to each MAC school in the state as a warning. Ohio State helps out programs in the same state by playing them, it has no interest because it would not serve their interests to permit any shot at creating a potential competitor regardless of the lack of any real world chances of it ever coming to fruition.


Ohio State just isn't important enough to make that call. Sorry.

Conversely, Cincinnati isn't important enough to be in the Big Ten...eleven...twelve...thirteen...fou​rteen...
 
2021-07-25 2:43:46 PM  

puffy999: Ohio State just isn't important enough to make that call. Sorry.


Guess again. tOSU was important enough to force the B1G to play a fall schedule last season. Not like anyone cared about Nebraska's concerns before the Bucks made a stink as well.

I'm no fan of any 1 school having too much pull within a conference (the Texas Model) but if you think tOSU doesn't make the B1G tick to its whims, you haven't been paying attention the last 20 years or so.
 
2021-07-25 2:50:45 PM  

the1hatman: Guess again. tOSU was important enough to force the B1G to play a fall schedule last season


One sport, a team with a legit playoff opportunity, the biggest television contracts imaginable.

Yeah, exactly the same thing as having veto power re: schools entering the conference.
 
2021-07-25 2:54:28 PM  

the1hatman: I'm no fan of any 1 school having too much pull within a conference (the Texas Model) but if you think tOSU doesn't make the B1G tick to its whims, you haven't been paying attention the last 20 years or so


Again, they aren't that important.

If Notre Dame, for example, were in Ohio and wanted to join the conference, what do you think would happen if Ohio State said "no"? Even I, a resident ND hater, would laugh their AD off of the farking planet.
 
2021-07-25 2:55:10 PM  
But that's kinda the thing. No other Ohio school deserves to be in the conference. That's not because "zomg the Buckeyes bro" it's because Ohio sucks.
 
2021-07-25 2:56:17 PM  
Michigan ain't any better. An oven mitten trying to touch Yoda's staff iykwim that's all that state is.

/runs
 
2021-07-25 2:57:02 PM  

puffy999: the1hatman: Guess again. tOSU was important enough to force the B1G to play a fall schedule last season

One sport, a team with a legit playoff opportunity, the biggest television contracts imaginable.

Yeah, exactly the same thing as having veto power re: schools entering the conference.


Not one sport, the most important sport concerning those same TV contracts you just mentioned. It's also the largest school in the league by far and has dominated conference politics most of our lifetimes and not just in terms of sports. Again, I'm not in favor of such an arrangement, but that has been the reality for decades now.
 
2021-07-25 3:03:34 PM  

puffy999: Again, they aren't that important.


Michigan ManTMlike typing detected.

puffy999: If Notre Dame, for example, were in Ohio and wanted to join the conference, what do you think would happen if Ohio State said "no"?


The rest of the B1G would fall in line citing lack of AAU membership and poor research research criteria that is far outside of CIC (the academic Big 10) standards.

There's far more involved here than just football. Work your way up to the big picture.
 
2021-07-25 3:24:30 PM  
Does anyone else think this has just gotten insane and needs to be reigned in by the NCAA? Like, conferences with 25 teams and conferences with 8 teams? I dunno, maybe I'm just being crazy here.
 
2021-07-25 3:25:55 PM  
I miss the days when the southeastern conference was actually teams from the southeast
 
2021-07-25 3:26:58 PM  

puffy999: I do hope this results in, say, Iowa State joining the Big Ten... eleven... twelve... thirteen... fourteen...


yup also Kansas is extending feelers that way as well.

if all those schools leave the Big 12 is kaputt
 
2021-07-25 3:37:51 PM  

jayphat: Does anyone else think this has just gotten insane and needs to be reigned in by the NCAA? Like, conferences with 25 teams and conferences with 8 teams?


Yes! I'd limit conferences to 12 teams and use their championship games as a defacto 1st round of the playoffs.

The best scenario would be to revive the original conference landscape with some expansion for better inclusion. Bring back the SWC, Big East and Big 8 to form a Power 7 and require access for the non-power conference schools to any playoff.
 
2021-07-25 3:42:54 PM  

jayphat: Does anyone else think this has just gotten insane and needs to be reigned in by the NCAA? Like, conferences with 25 teams and conferences with 8 teams? I dunno, maybe I'm just being crazy here.


If the CFB world was smart, they would devise a super-league where the teams that can afford it can join.
It's gotten to the point where teams have absolutely no shot at a CFP spot. They are being outspent 10 to 1 on facilities and coaches. The only hope is a mediocre bowl spot where it actually costs more to play in it than what they'll make.
Teams I would see joining it: Florida, Florida St., Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, OK St., Oklahoma, Texas, A&M, Baylor, Ohio St. Notre Dame, Ohio State, Iowa, LSU, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington.
 
2021-07-25 3:51:58 PM  

Sergeant Angle: If the CFB world was smart, they would devise a super-league where the teams that can afford it can join.
It's gotten to the point where teams have absolutely no shot at a CFP spot. They are being outspent 10 to 1 on facilities and coaches. The only hope is a mediocre bowl spot where it actually costs more to play in it than what they'll make.
Teams I would see joining it: Florida, Florida St., Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, OK St., Oklahoma, Texas, A&M, Baylor, Ohio St. Notre Dame, Ohio State, Iowa, LSU, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington.


As much as I like the idea as a fan, the issue is that these schools and their conferences don't simply exist as athletic confederations. The B1G, Pac12 and ACC specifically care far more about endowments, research grants and other academia driven revenue than sports. You're talking FB/BB millions vs. federal grant billions. We only see the sports aspects of their alignments because of media coverage but your average school chancellor is looking at a much bigger picture dollar-wise.

tl;dr: There's a reason Vanderbilt and Northwestern are in Power 5 conferences.
 
2021-07-25 6:34:01 PM  

freddyV: 247Sports says Texas would have to give up the Longhorn Network. That's 150 million


It gets folded into the deal and tier 3 rights are transferred to the SEC.  SEC uses that money to pay whatever buyout UT may owe to the BigXII.  It's not an impediment to the deal.
 
2021-07-25 6:34:47 PM  

jayphat: Does anyone else think this has just gotten insane and needs to be reigned in by the NCAA? Like, conferences with 25 teams and conferences with 8 teams? I dunno, maybe I'm just being crazy here.


The NCAA that is little more than the collection of university presidents and ADs?  They will march to whatever drumbeat the revenue stream dictates.
 
2021-07-25 6:38:30 PM  

dgames: freddyV: 247Sports says Texas would have to give up the Longhorn Network. That's 150 million

It gets folded into the deal and tier 3 rights are transferred to the SEC.  SEC uses that money to pay whatever buyout UT may owe to the BigXII.  It's not an impediment to the deal.


Citation?
 
2021-07-25 7:13:28 PM  
ACC can pick up 2 to make 16
Big Ten can pick up 2 to make 16
Pac-12 can pick up 4 to make 16
SEC can pick up 2 to make 16

SEC takes Oklahoma and Texas (¢A$H GRAB)
Pac-12 takes Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Kansas, and Kansas State (Academically good fits, basketball powerhouse in Kansas, plus renews old Colorado rivals.)
Big Ten takes Iowa State and West Virginia (Renews old rivalry plus good academic fits)
ACC tells Texas Christian and Baylor to go fark themselves.
 
2021-07-25 7:16:31 PM  
the1hatman:  tl;dr: There's a reason Vanderbilt and Northwestern are in Power 5 conferences.

Don't kid yourself. Vanderbilt and Northwestern would get dropped if you re-did the conferences from scratch. Rice University is testament to that.
 
2021-07-25 9:23:10 PM  
I hope they go to the pod system with permanent cross pos rivals, I just hope they don't lump all of the Big XII schools together.  That was a mistake the Big XII made by splitting mostly along SWC/Big 8 lines.  Put Mizzou is a North pod with Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee and then split the other Big XII teams between West and South pods.
 
2021-07-25 9:25:49 PM  

dbeshear: ACC can pick up 2 to make 16
Big Ten can pick up 2 to make 16
Pac-12 can pick up 4 to make 16
SEC can pick up 2 to make 16

SEC takes Oklahoma and Texas (¢A$H GRAB)
Pac-12 takes Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Kansas, and Kansas State (Academically good fits, basketball powerhouse in Kansas, plus renews old Colorado rivals.)
Big Ten takes Iowa State and West Virginia (Renews old rivalry plus good academic fits)
ACC tells Texas Christian and Baylor to go fark themselves.


Kansas is already making overtures to the Big Ten.
 
2021-07-25 10:30:12 PM  

iamskibibitz: the1hatman:  tl;dr: There's a reason Vanderbilt and Northwestern are in Power 5 conferences.

Don't kid yourself. Vanderbilt and Northwestern would get dropped if you re-did the conferences from scratch.


Then why didn't that happen to either in the last round of conference hopscotch?
Why split the conference pie with schools that do not provide much revenue athletically when you could have replaced them with programs that could?

Again the answer is: You're talking FB/BB millions vs. federal grant billions. The billions win every time.

iamskibibitz: Rice University is testament to that.


Rice was not a member of any elite academic conference. The SWC was nothing compared to the ACC, B1G or Pac12 in that regard. It's also tiny at a shade over 7000 students where Northwestern is over 22K and Vandy is around 14K. Apples to oranges when compared to Power 5 private institutions.
 
2021-07-25 10:44:21 PM  

grimlock1972: dbeshear: Pac-12 takes ... Kansas


Kansas is already making overtures to the Big Ten.

Bingo. They make a great fit along with Iowa State in potentially going to the B1G.

dbeshear: Big Ten takes Iowa State and West Virginia (Renews old rivalry plus good academic fits)


West Virginia is a terrible academic fit for the B1G. Not an AAU member and not a major research institution by CIC standards. If either were the case, WVU would have been in long before Rutgers and Maryland got invites. Pittsburgh would be a far better candidate assuming Penn St. wouldn't balk at having an in state rival. With Iowa St. and Kansas actively courting the B1G, it's unlikely PSU will even have to worry about that.
 
2021-07-26 12:08:25 PM  
This is the best thing that can happen to Oklahoma State.

Get them away from Oklahoma so they can grow into their own program.

OKstate to the Pac-12 will end up being one of the greatest things to happen to Stillwater, OK.
 
2021-07-26 2:36:21 PM  

JolobinSmokin: This is the best thing that can happen to Oklahoma State.

Get them away from Oklahoma so they can grow into their own program.

OKstate to the Pac-12 will end up being one of the greatest things to happen to Stillwater, OK.


Unless t-boone comes back from the grave and starts throwing his money at the PAC, not sure how valuable the pokes from Sitllbirth are going to be.
 
2021-07-26 2:43:20 PM  

lilplatinum: JolobinSmokin: This is the best thing that can happen to Oklahoma State.

Get them away from Oklahoma so they can grow into their own program.

OKstate to the Pac-12 will end up being one of the greatest things to happen to Stillwater, OK.

Unless t-boone comes back from the grave and starts throwing his money at the PAC, not sure how valuable the pokes from Sitllbirth are going to be.


Half of the city of Dallas graduated from either OU or OSU. Large built-in audience.
 
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