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2021-07-24 10:43:49 AM  

Superjoe: IamTomJoad: Gotta love the "as a businessman, I voted Brexit" but "now, as a person....I wouldn't"

So, as a person, now that your business is failing, you are having second thoughts.

"I LOVE MY DEAD, GAY SON!!"

/is it too ***gasp*** late ***gasp*** for the vaccine? **gasp***

The power of Brexit has turned him from an ugly businessman into a beautiful person.


Naw, he still blames Brexit for his bad decision.
 
2021-07-24 10:44:51 AM  

rolladuck: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

I still don't understand why the UK government made a massive decision regarding international political alignment based on a single snapshot of opinion in a non-binding referendum.
We screw a lot of things up in the US, but when one of my home states decided we want to amend our state constitution, it takes two YES votes in two consecutive biennial general elections.


Because the point was to f__k the country up. The people who pushed for and coordinated this mess are traitors working for a nation that has been a complete shiatheel for the last 500 years to anyone within reach.
 
2021-07-24 10:45:42 AM  

brokenbiscuits: Iwanted to move to the UK, and had designs on doing so, before Brexit. Friends there were upset that it passed but assured me things weren't going to go to shiat so I kept up working on finding a good job over there. But then... Something told me to put it on hold and see how it pans out.

I'm glad I did. I'm either going to start looking in the EU or wait a couple years and see if the UK unfarks itself, which I'm not holding my breath for.


What are your concerns as a foreigner coming into Britain? The biggest loss to the British people was "freedom of movement" which you wouldn't have been eligible for anyways. Thanks to the combination of Brexit and Covid, wage inflation is going nuts right now. One of the guys who was working for me in London just jumped from £80k to £120k and had multiple competing offers.

If you're happy being poor because you take anti-UK sentiment to heart on Fark, good for you, but typically I would suggest you try to separate your finances and life goals from your political persuasion...
 
2021-07-24 10:51:20 AM  

gilgigamesh: As a Yank who ignores anything happening outside US borders, I haven't kept up with the fine details of Brexit. But it seems obvious to me that if you are going to cut off a cheap labor pool, you are going to royally fark yourself if you aren't simultaneously negotiating a deal to bring in cheap labor from somewhere else. Asia or central America or something.

Did that not happen? Because if not, that's really dumb.


They instituted a 'points-based' system that effectively bars low-skill and low-wage labour, unless they have PhD, apparently.
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2021-07-24 10:51:39 AM  

rummonkey: Business by its own nature is out for itself. In a more simplistic ideal, businesses make a product that people need and then make profits based on that product. In reality businesses are about making money, even when there isn't a product to sell. There is no altruism, there is only a selfish motive to get more money.


Yes.  You have just described my mother.
 
2021-07-24 10:57:08 AM  
He voted as a businessman? Did he think it was too easy running a business and want to add 20 layers of trade and immigration laws to give himself a challenge? He probably voted more as a racist than a businessman but it sounds better to say "As a businessman."
 
2021-07-24 11:02:24 AM  

Shaggy_C: brokenbiscuits: Iwanted to move to the UK, and had designs on doing so, before Brexit. Friends there were upset that it passed but assured me things weren't going to go to shiat so I kept up working on finding a good job over there. But then... Something told me to put it on hold and see how it pans out.

I'm glad I did. I'm either going to start looking in the EU or wait a couple years and see if the UK unfarks itself, which I'm not holding my breath for.

What are your concerns as a foreigner coming into Britain? The biggest loss to the British people was "freedom of movement" which you wouldn't have been eligible for anyways. Thanks to the combination of Brexit and Covid, wage inflation is going nuts right now. One of the guys who was working for me in London just jumped from £80k to £120k and had multiple competing offers.

If you're happy being poor because you take anti-UK sentiment to heart on Fark, good for you, but typically I would suggest you try to separate your finances and life goals from your political persuasion...


You need to solve your pooping
 
2021-07-24 11:02:48 AM  

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2021-07-24 11:04:39 AM  
Not too soon to start a campaign to rejoin the EU, brits.
 
2021-07-24 11:05:48 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


Money would rain down and bless him for his devotion to the purity of the white race.
 
2021-07-24 11:07:32 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


Let me tell you, as a trans woman, I think you're right.
 
2021-07-24 11:07:44 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


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2021-07-24 11:08:39 AM  
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2021-07-24 11:09:10 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Change my mind.


Your mind doesn't need changing. Well, except that England changed a heck of a lot when they canceled the Atlantic slave trade, and were defeated later in the Boer War. The Pirate Nation was defeated by Gandhi's nonviolence and Kwame Nkrumah's Ghana. Maybe the Mau-Mau rebellion in Kenya is a high-water mark for England's upper class twits' attempt to use despicably exotic torture and slavery to maintain its pirate empire. It was also a high-water mark for decolonization when blood seeped out from the dirt beide the roadway that led to Kenya' slave-labour airport, ensuring that England would never be able to maintain any of their assets through piracy ever again (nobody will be their slave).

The "minimum wage" workers from the Continent probably never had the opportunity to read about England's decolonization horrors. However, many of them, like the Polish underclass, probably knew that England would treat them like migrant non-person, the same way they let the Nazis, then the Soviets, take over. But thoe Poles also knew the EU would offer them some protection, but the Polish diillusionment with the EU (and liberal democracy in general) could be connected to their failure to get England to treat Poles like real persons.
 
2021-07-24 11:10:37 AM  

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2021-07-24 11:12:32 AM  

rummonkey: Government is there to provide the things a society needs that businesses cannot or will not provide.


Yeah... Until political campaign are funded by business, who conider campaigns to be investments. Add that to an electorate who see voting as a business transaction (talk to me directly and then wow me with your pitch), instead of a duty to self-govern, and the purpose of government becomes to serve business by diverting a tax base to shareholders.
 
2021-07-24 11:13:52 AM  

log_jammin: Why doesn't he go pick up the beer himself? Seems like an easy, simple, boot strappy solution.


And do actual work? how dare you
 
2021-07-24 11:14:19 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


As a parent

If I go to sleep and my kids are alive and not in jail, I call it at least a tie
 
2021-07-24 11:16:45 AM  

groppet: He voted as a businessman? Did he think it was too easy running a business and want to add 20 layers of trade and immigration laws to give himself a challenge? He probably voted more as a racist than a businessman but it sounds better to say "As a businessman."


In my experience, "businessman" is just another word for "bigot with money".
 
2021-07-24 11:17:18 AM  
Brits could very well be the migrant workers in the near future, heading into Eastern Europe to plow the fields and tar the roofs.
 
2021-07-24 11:22:55 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: rummonkey: Government is there to provide the things a society needs that businesses cannot or will not provide.

Yeah... Until political campaign are funded by business, who conider campaigns to be investments. Add that to an electorate who see voting as a business transaction (talk to me directly and then wow me with your pitch), instead of a duty to self-govern, and the purpose of government becomes to serve business by diverting a tax base to shareholders.


That is the Trap that we fell into here. It's a shame we couldn't follow the example of some Scandinavian and European countries where, while it's not the perfect balance, at least they still have enough of a dedication to caring for their own population before business needs.
 
2021-07-24 11:26:01 AM  
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2021-07-24 11:35:48 AM  

Shaggy_C: gilgigamesh: As a Yank who ignores anything happening outside US borders, I haven't kept up with the fine details of Brexit. But it seems obvious to me that if you are going to cut off a cheap labor pool, you are going to royally fark yourself if you aren't simultaneously negotiating a deal to bring in cheap labor from somewhere else. Asia or central America or something.

Did that not happen? Because if not, that's really dumb.

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My guess is they're promptly going to designate crop picking and waiting tables as essential areas with a labor shortage.
 
2021-07-24 11:37:44 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


He thought the rest of Europe would get on their knees and do everything Britain wanted.
 
2021-07-24 11:41:13 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


he reminds me of the florets who got 100% of his flowers from EU countries and voted Brexit for reasons.

"I have a cunning plan"

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2021-07-24 11:44:39 AM  

LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.  It seems that most of his staff are not English but other countries in the EU.  An immediate repercussion of Brexit is that he loses most of his staff.  Didn't think that through.  Did you, Rockefeller?

He goes on to acknowledge that many of the hospitality customers are from the EU.  Brexit will make him lose much of his customer base.  Rather than acknowledge he made a big mistake that was probably driven by racism, he complains about the negative effects.  Nice.


Interestingly, I think he is the owner of a Manchester gay bar. Bar Pop (pop). It's on Canal Street, the big gay area in Manchester (so well known that the "C" of Canal Street is usually rubbed out on the street sign).

I would have thought that staying in the EU would offer better protection for LGBQT+ than whatever Johnson's Britain has to offer.
 
2021-07-24 11:47:11 AM  

Hoobajube: What I could never understand is that after the surprising result of the NON-BINDING 2016 public referendum, after which it seemed like many people who protest-voted for brexit immediately and publicly expressed regret, every politician in charge acted as though it was their god-given obligation to push it through no matter what.

The whole process took years to complete, and at any time along the way any of the PMs could have said, "It has become clear to the British people that Brexit involves more than just a flip of a switch, so before moving forward with finalized Brexit agreement, we will let the people vote on it."  It would have gone down in flames as by then it was already known to be a shiatshow.  I was hoping for the Queen to make an unprecedented move to save the day and nudge a politician in the right direction, but I know that's not how things work.

The whole idea of putting an existing, major treaty up for a 50%+1 popular vote was stupid -- people are too fickle.

It'd be like Texas voting to secede every year, the measure always losing 25-75, but then one year...in an alternate history 2017...it passes 51-49.  Then the Texas government just plows through with secession over the next four years even if it became clear it'd lose the popular vote again in 2018-onwards.


Yeah, that sort of thing will happen when the voters keep returning the pro-Brexit party to power
 
2021-07-24 11:53:37 AM  
Unedited "well, as a racistbusinessman, who made a living on the backs of foreigners who work for shiate wages,I voted for Brexit.

I'm still racist....but now I'm going broke and would like to have cheap labor again.

Woe is me
 
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2021-07-24 11:56:47 AM  

Befuddled: British farmers are facing a real crisis as there is no one to pick their crops now that Eastern Europeans can't freely travel there.


Be a real shame if all that black pudding rots in the fields unharvested.
 
2021-07-24 11:57:04 AM  

talkertopc: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

He thought the rest of Europe would get on their knees and do everything Britain wanted.


Yup, the Leave part of Brexit greatly overestimated the importance of the UK to the rest of the world.

That's the big flaw with MAGA as well.  They both just think that their countries are important because reasons.  They both refuse to see that the world economy can be reconfigured to leave them out.  That's far simpler in the case of the UK than the US, but both are very much possible.
 
2021-07-24 12:05:30 PM  

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Who would have guessed that the draconian nationalist immigration policy that he supported would negatively impact his business which depends heavily on immigrant workers.
 
2021-07-24 12:07:31 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


He never said he was a good businessman
 
2021-07-24 12:18:47 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


That qualifier is there so they can use it as a "you wouldn't know because you're not x" club when you try to tell them they're an idiot.
 
2021-07-24 12:20:20 PM  

Lexx: Brits will never forget the pride and hubris of being a superpower.  The sun has set on The British Empire, and they're never going to accept that, much less forgive it.


That certainly sounds familiar...
 
2021-07-24 12:20:20 PM  
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2021-07-24 12:22:38 PM  
The only thing missing there was him blaming his staff for voting for Brexit for his problems even though they wouldn't have been able to.
 
2021-07-24 12:23:24 PM  

Vacation Bible School: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Being a con artist is a kind of business.


None of you sound very "bootstrappy" to me.
 
2021-07-24 12:25:58 PM  

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This applies to the MAGA bullshiat we are dealing with now.
 
2021-07-24 12:30:50 PM  
Hey how did you fix the misspelled headline? It said "Ctipes" before.
 
2021-07-24 12:31:15 PM  

Shaggy_C: brokenbiscuits: Iwanted to move to the UK, and had designs on doing so, before Brexit. Friends there were upset that it passed but assured me things weren't going to go to shiat so I kept up working on finding a good job over there. But then... Something told me to put it on hold and see how it pans out.

I'm glad I did. I'm either going to start looking in the EU or wait a couple years and see if the UK unfarks itself, which I'm not holding my breath for.

What are your concerns as a foreigner coming into Britain? The biggest loss to the British people was "freedom of movement" which you wouldn't have been eligible for anyways. Thanks to the combination of Brexit and Covid, wage inflation is going nuts right now. One of the guys who was working for me in London just jumped from £80k to £120k and had multiple competing offers.

If you're happy being poor because you take anti-UK sentiment to heart on Fark, good for you, but typically I would suggest you try to separate your finances and life goals from your political persuasion...


1) Primary concern: shortages. My wife has family across the pond who routinely complains about shortages of even local products as the EU citizenry apparently did loads of manufacturing and logistics work. Which this article touches addresses.

The United States is a repressively capitalist country which sucks because of the drastic income disparity but it means that if someone sits at upper-middle class income they don't have to worry about shortages much.

Secondary concern: exclusionary mentalities. The fixation on getting a subset of EU-origin residents out of the country that they were willing to harm themselves politically, socially, and at least somewhat fiscally.

2) I work in tech. If you want to use gross income as a measure, I make more than your friend's maximum offer by the equivalent of several thousand pounds.

And yes, I will make decisions based on things like politics, sociological norms, and state of ethics. I'm not going to base my decision on where I live purely on how much money I can make there. If the political climate is hostile to my ethos I'm not going to be happy, regardless of how much I have in my bank account.
 
2021-07-24 12:36:12 PM  
Meh. A businessman as shiatty as that would've gone out of business eventually anyway.
 
2021-07-24 12:38:24 PM  

iheartscotch: I wonder if he's considered paying MORE than minimum wage.


My aunt was trying to hire a data entry person for several weeks without any success, so she got her boss to agree to offer $17/hour instead of $15, and at the same time to bump up everyone's pay by the same amount. Result: last week, the mood in the office abruptly went from stressed and overworked to happy and motivated, and she's picking through several promising applications for the empty position.

This is just a small regional pizza chain, but at the ground level, people are beginning to adjust to reality.
 
2021-07-24 12:40:02 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


As a businessman and a parent, your giraffe isn't worth a budgie, and I should know.
 
2021-07-24 12:44:06 PM  

brokenbiscuits: And yes, I will make decisions based on things like politics, sociological norms, and state of ethics. I'm not going to base my decision on where I live purely on how much money I can make there. If the political climate is hostile to my ethos I'm not going to be happy, regardless of how much I have in my bank account.


AYUP.

Someone I know took a job in Dubai and that kinda tells me everything I need to know about him.
 
2021-07-24 1:02:34 PM  

LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.  It seems that most of his staff are not English but other countries in the EU.  An immediate repercussion of Brexit is that he loses most of his staff.  Didn't think that through.  Did you, Rockefeller?

He goes on to acknowledge that many of the hospitality customers are from the EU.  Brexit will make him lose much of his customer base.  Rather than acknowledge he made a big mistake that was probably driven by racism, he complains about the negative effects.  Nice.


Behavior like this and the no-gays bakeries show that Business people can be just as stupid as anyone else.  The Republican/Libertarian belief that "Job Creators" are somehow above the rest of us is wrong and stupid.
 
2021-07-24 1:19:49 PM  
This guy could be transported to the 1860's and be making the same comments.

"But...but...without free labor how am I supposed to run my plantation?"
 
2021-07-24 1:23:04 PM  

Xai: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: I can't wait for our special someone to jump in and tell us how good this is for England.
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nah he just pretends he can't see all the dozens of negative stories about brexit.


To be fair, he has commented on some negative stories, and acknowledges they're bad for England - he just tries to spin them as the EU being a "bully" and how evil we are for supporting them!

Like the EU requiring British passport holders to use the immigration/visitor queue for non-EU country, instead of the express queue for EU citizens.  In his mind, this is a retaliatory action against the British, rather than just applying the rules consistently.   It doesn't matter that it's something that everyone *knew* would happen (because *duh* Brits aren't members of the EU anymore) we're all evil for supporting the evil bully.
 
2021-07-24 1:31:09 PM  

Murkanen: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

You haven't met a lot of business men I take it.

There's a reason why most businesses fold like a lawn chair before their 5th year.


If only he'd made the decision as a top level CEO, then he could have had a golden parachute to softly land him in another CEO position.
 
2021-07-24 1:34:47 PM  
From today's The Guardian as opposed to random Twitter posters:
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2021-07-24 1:52:57 PM  

Gpzjock: As a businessman he thought getting rid of all the minimum wage immigrant workers and the European logistics hub meant he would thrive with the same pisspoor business model that he developed while they were still here.
Um, no.


So, like America and Mexican immigrants.
 
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