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2021-07-24 12:55:17 AM  
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2021-07-24 7:20:22 AM  
Getting plenty of mileage out of this meme these days

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2021-07-24 7:22:28 AM  
What a huge Farkup

If they'd just put the money they've wasted on Brexit into improving the NHS .....
 
2021-07-24 8:27:25 AM  
He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?
 
2021-07-24 8:28:56 AM  
"As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.  It seems that most of his staff are not English but other countries in the EU.  An immediate repercussion of Brexit is that he loses most of his staff.  Didn't think that through.  Did you, Rockefeller?

He goes on to acknowledge that many of the hospitality customers are from the EU.  Brexit will make him lose much of his customer base.  Rather than acknowledge he made a big mistake that was probably driven by racism, he complains about the negative effects.  Nice.
 
2021-07-24 8:29:46 AM  
10 to 1 the Brits will still fall for whatever Nigel sells them next when he inevitably resurfaces with another bright idea.
 
2021-07-24 8:32:42 AM  
How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?
 
2021-07-24 8:33:57 AM  
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2021-07-24 8:34:25 AM  
I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."
 
2021-07-24 8:34:51 AM  
Let me guess Sky 1 is always on in his bar?
 
2021-07-24 8:36:09 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.
 
2021-07-24 8:36:16 AM  
Interesting. It's almost as if conservatism, ethnocentrism, and short sightedness go hand in hand. It's a conundrum.
 
2021-07-24 8:36:39 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


He didn't say he was good at it
 
2021-07-24 8:41:46 AM  
I wonder if he's considered paying MORE than minimum wage.
 
2021-07-24 8:42:35 AM  

LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.


No, not the worst. Most of the businessmen in UK voted for Brexit. Most of them are still in denial about its reprocussions. This guy at least is started to recognize it was his own fault.
 
2021-07-24 8:42:58 AM  
As a businessman he thought getting rid of all the minimum wage immigrant workers and the European logistics hub meant he would thrive with the same pisspoor business model that he developed while they were still here.
Um, no.
 
2021-07-24 8:43:29 AM  

Original: Original Tweet:

BylineTV: "I wouldn't vote Brexit ever again" John owns a major nightclub in Manchester and is having a nightmare. All his EU bar staff have left the UK due to Brexit. He has no beer to sell because the lorry drivers also left to the EU and can't deliver it. https://t.co/uLtovxkkkC


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2021-07-24 8:46:08 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


All the bad people would be thrown out of the country, and all the money that was spent on their welfare and health care would be taken by the Brexit Fairy who would leave it under the pillows of all the good little business owners.

Also, burgundy passports.
 
2021-07-24 8:46:08 AM  
Gee, it's almost as if ideologies at odds with reality are dysfunctional and destructive.

Who'd have thought?
 
2021-07-24 8:46:21 AM  
I can't wait for our special someone to jump in and tell us how good this is for England.
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2021-07-24 8:46:39 AM  
This face you got,
This here phizzog you carry around,
You never picked it out for yourself
at all, at all--did you?
This here phizzog--somebody handed it
to you-am I right?
Somebody said, "Here's yours, now go see
what you can do with it."
Somebody slipped it to you and it was like
a package marked:
"No goods exchanged after being taken away"--
This face you got.


- Carl Sandburg
 
2021-07-24 8:46:55 AM  

wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.


My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.
 
2021-07-24 8:49:35 AM  
He's complaining because he can't find people to work for his shiatty low wages. Rather than be a "ha ha brexit" thread this should be a "pay more ya cheapskate" thread.
 
2021-07-24 8:50:10 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


You haven't met a lot of business men I take it.

There's a reason why most businesses fold like a lawn chair before their 5th year.
 
2021-07-24 8:51:59 AM  

rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.


Worse yet, a "businessman" whose idea of being a good businessman is going around firing people.
 
2021-07-24 8:54:12 AM  

Shaggy_C: He's complaining because he can't find people to work for his shiatty low wages. Rather than be a "ha ha brexit" thread this should be a "pay more ya cheapskate" thread.


I prefer both.
 
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2021-07-24 8:55:54 AM  

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: I can't wait for our special someone to jump in and tell us how good this is for England.
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nah he just pretends he can't see all the dozens of negative stories about brexit.

You have to remember that to most brexiteers, it's more important that they never admit they made a mistake than to care about the well being of the country.

Look at the guy in the story as a prime example, he says "as a businessman" as though he is 2 farking different people and he's not the one who made the fark-up.
 
2021-07-24 8:56:15 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


Well, voting as a shiatty businessman is still voting as a businessman.
 
2021-07-24 9:00:25 AM  

washburn777: 10 to 1 the Brits will still fall for whatever Nigel sells them next when he inevitably resurfaces with another bright idea.


NIgel will propose that "EU venture capitalists" buy up all the pubs/hotels, including their holding companies so that the typical "European" will come to England instead of his dacha.
 
2021-07-24 9:00:26 AM  
Brits will never forget the pride and hubris of being a superpower.  The sun has set on The British Empire, and they're never going to accept that, much less forgive it.
 
2021-07-24 9:00:43 AM  

MindStalker: LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.

No, not the worst. Most of the businessmen in UK voted for Brexit. Most of them are still in denial about its reprocussions. This guy at least is started to recognize it was his own fault.


Not really.  He later said if he voted "As  A PERSON", he would not vote for Brexit again.
He won't admit that it was a bad BUSINESS decision.
 
2021-07-24 9:01:16 AM  

wademh: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Worse yet, a "businessman" whose idea of being a good businessman is going around firing people.


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2021-07-24 9:03:42 AM  
Why doesn't he go pick up the beer himself? Seems like an easy, simple, boot strappy solution.
 
2021-07-24 9:05:12 AM  
I don't know what he's complaining about, he got exactly what he wanted. Surely he must have been aware that a lot of his staff were from Europe and that they couldn't work for him post brexit. He must also have been aware that a lot of truck drivers were also from the continent, and that they couldn't work in the U.K. after brexit.

The reason these people were hired in the first place was that the locals wouldn't do those jobs for the pay being offered. Brexit removed that pool of cheap labor, so now those businesses will have to pony up more money to fill those positions or close.
 
2021-07-24 9:05:20 AM  
British farmers are facing a real crisis as there is no one to pick their crops now that Eastern Europeans can't freely travel there.
 
2021-07-24 9:06:57 AM  
Well then I have good news: you don't have to!
 
2021-07-24 9:07:09 AM  
Yeah he would. He got snookered once.
 
2021-07-24 9:08:13 AM  

MinatoArisato013: Original: Original Tweet:
BylineTV: "I wouldn't vote Brexit ever again" John owns a major nightclub in Manchester and is having a nightmare. All his EU bar staff have left the UK due to Brexit. He has no beer to sell because the lorry drivers also left to the EU and can't deliver it. https://t.co/uLtovxkkkC

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2021-07-24 9:08:43 AM  
None of these yahoos voted for "economic" reasons, much like their American cousins they aren't going to say the real reason out loud.
 
2021-07-24 9:09:39 AM  

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: I can't wait for our special someone to jump in and tell us how good this is for England.
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2021-07-24 9:10:50 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


We can do that!?

As a parent, I think it's okay to add a little coffee to my morning Irish whisky. How else will I start my day?
 
2021-07-24 9:13:42 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


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2021-07-24 9:13:44 AM  

Befuddled: British farmers are facing a real crisis as there is no one to pick their crops now that Eastern Europeans can't freely travel there.


1. Set up boat in NE mexico and take the immigrants who are otherwise being treated poorly
2. enjoy cheap farm labor
3. when they become british enough to vacation in spain, cancel the return flight and replace them before they become british jerks
 
2021-07-24 9:14:05 AM  

Lexx: Brits will never forget the pride and hubris of being a superpower.  The sun has set on The British Empire, and they're never going to accept that, much less forgive it.


Whoa.  That's a pretty gross over generalization.  The Tories, yes.
 
2021-07-24 9:14:41 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


They think it does.  They think it absolved them of responsibility because they weren't doing it as an "individual" who may have done it for something like "I don't want those immigrants!".  Nope, they did it as a "business owner" which implies they were doing it for the good of their business.

As far as I'm concerned, unless you articulate what that means, I'm assuming it means "those damn immigrants."

As far as "as a business owner" goes.... I know a ton of dumbass and selfish business owners, so them implying they're infallible by dropping that line, unless I know and respect them, I'm going to assume they're the selfish dumbass variety if they use that line.
 
2021-07-24 9:16:21 AM  

Befuddled: British farmers are facing a real crisis as there is no one to pick their crops now that Eastern Europeans can't freely travel there.


Bummer.
 
2021-07-24 9:17:31 AM  

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It's no surprise to me, I am my own worst enemy
Cos every now and then I beat the living shiat out of me
 
2021-07-24 9:18:13 AM  
I'd never have burned that bridge if I knew I couldn't cross it.
 
2021-07-24 9:23:01 AM  

Johnson: MindStalker: LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.

No, not the worst. Most of the businessmen in UK voted for Brexit. Most of them are still in denial about its reprocussions. This guy at least is started to recognize it was his own fault.

Not really.  He later said if he voted "As  A PERSON", he would not vote for Brexit again.
He won't admit that it was a bad BUSINESS decision.


Half of business is impressing your business friends and investors. Of course you have to share their politics too.... :/
 
2021-07-24 9:23:52 AM  

wademh: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Worse yet, a "businessman" whose idea of being a good businessman is going around firing people.


He makes the hard decisions look easy, by not thinking about them.
 
2021-07-24 9:24:07 AM  
Little late, but maybe massive decisions like leaving the EU shouldn't be a simple majority referendum. I'm not the UK's mom, and I don't have a time machine yet, but if I were and I did, that's what I'd look at tweaking.
 
2021-07-24 9:27:44 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


Well it does sound better than "As an ignorant c*nt".
 
2021-07-24 9:28:59 AM  

Nullav: Little late, but maybe massive decisions like leaving the EU shouldn't be a simple majority referendum. I'm not the UK's mom, and I don't have a time machine yet, but if I were and I did, that's what I'd look at tweaking.


It may have started with a simple majority referendum but the British electorate repeatedly voted in favor of the pro-Brexit party on an explicit Brexit platform
 
2021-07-24 9:29:30 AM  
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2021-07-24 9:31:02 AM  
I'm confused why he voted as a businessman to restrict his access to product and work force, was surprised that he now has less. Was he previously creating them in the basement and has had a bad year with that too?

Maybe his problem will sort itself out now that he's gone public. He'll have fewer customers that he'll need less product and staff.
 
2021-07-24 9:32:58 AM  

rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.


Being a con artist is a kind of business.
 
2021-07-24 9:34:18 AM  

LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."


Because clearly cutting the UK off the EU market is sure great business.
 
2021-07-24 9:35:14 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


By leaving the EU, wealthy UK residents also left the anti-money laundering agreement.  So they can explore very lucrative "investments".
Ordinary UK residents?  Enjoy the bread lines and decaying economy.  Also, if Johnson gets the Chinese an open door enjoy that sucking sound.
 
2021-07-24 9:37:14 AM  

Befuddled: British farmers are facing a real crisis as there is no one to pick their crops now that Eastern Europeans can't freely travel there.


Oh noes anyway. White british people not being able to rely on slaves for the first time in their history. Aint that a shame.
 
2021-07-24 9:39:05 AM  
But but there's a couple farkers who have said Brexit is the greatest thing that's ever happened to England and their supermarket shelves are always stocked with cheese!

They....they couldn't be lying right?

/s
 
2021-07-24 9:42:35 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


Maybe Trumpy is his business role model
 
2021-07-24 9:46:26 AM  
I'll bet in the bits that didn't make it to the aired segment he hints at where the "real" error is, that it's not his vote, it's the lousy deal the UK government made with the EU, the EU being unfair/evil, or the UK government not doing a good job preparing, etc.  He doesn't demonstrate much capacity to own the results of his choices.
 
2021-07-24 9:46:57 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


I love the idea that opening a business makes people smarter.
 
2021-07-24 9:48:43 AM  
Weird. The exact thing they Remain crowd said would happen is happening despite being dismissed as a fearmongering fever dream by Leave.

It's almost as though one side was absolutely full of shiat and willing to say whatever it took to whoever it took to get them to vote Leave, but without any consistent plan for how they'd actually make good on their wildly optimistic and often mutually exclusive promises.
 
2021-07-24 9:50:11 AM  
Iwanted to move to the UK, and had designs on doing so, before Brexit. Friends there were upset that it passed but assured me things weren't going to go to shiat so I kept up working on finding a good job over there. But then... Something told me to put it on hold and see how it pans out.

I'm glad I did. I'm either going to start looking in the EU or wait a couple years and see if the UK unfarks itself, which I'm not holding my breath for.
 
2021-07-24 9:50:53 AM  
As a businessman let me share a little secret, Capitalismo is toxic and one of the primary threats to the Globe. The real Kings of Capitalism today are Xi and Putin, both communists or former communists with none of the supposed "moral"underpinnings that Western Capitalism pretends to guide them, ala Adam Smith (or was it Edmund Burke)IDK, and is just a cover for its fundamentally destructive nature of most for the "profit" of the few.

The Queens England always acts like they're above reproach ethically precisely because they are and have always been The Pirate Nation. My understanding of modern capitalism is that it stems from Henry the VIII, and his Letter of Marque, which granted rovering privateers license to go anywhere, do anything and generally act in the most lawless way possible, especially to Asians, Indians ( from India), and Africans, not to mention the also rapacious Spanish French Dutch, Germans and Russians, and pretty much everyone else.

America, with its appropriation of all Native American lands without so much as a "by your leave" is just an extension of that English system.

OK, I don't really know what I'm talking about, but just dredging up what I think I remember from books I've never read from much earlier in my So Called Education.

Change my mind.
 
2021-07-24 9:50:59 AM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Interesting. It's almost as if conservatism, ethnocentrism, and short sightedness go hand in hand. It's a conundrum.


I'll say this about conservatives, at least they're predictable. If they're for something, it's almost assuredly a bad idea, and if it's not, they're doing it for the stupidest reason possible.
 
2021-07-24 9:53:33 AM  

Murkanen: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

You haven't met a lot of business men I take it.

There's a reason why most businesses fold like a lawn chair before their 5th year.


Also, if a business owner gets lucky, and stumbles into profits, he's hailed as a genius, regardless of how he got there.
 
2021-07-24 9:54:20 AM  

Mike_1962: Lexx: Brits will never forget the pride and hubris of being a superpower.  The sun has set on The British Empire, and they're never going to accept that, much less forgive it.

Whoa.  That's a pretty gross over generalization.  The Tories, yes.


Let me walk back the generalization then.  "A plurality of Brits, just enough to control government, will never accept, forget, forgive, etc."
 
2021-07-24 9:55:56 AM  

Tyrosine: I don't know what he's complaining about, he got exactly what he wanted. Surely he must have been aware that a lot of his staff were from Europe and that they couldn't work for him post brexit. He must also have been aware that a lot of truck drivers were also from the continent, and that they couldn't work in the U.K. after brexit.

The reason these people were hired in the first place was that the locals wouldn't do those jobs for the pay being offered. Brexit removed that pool of cheap labor, so now those businesses will have to pony up more money to fill those positions or close.


Which, if they nut up and start paying more, that money will go right back into the local economy, and might start to improve things....
 
2021-07-24 9:59:19 AM  
Gotta love the "as a businessman, I voted Brexit" but "now, as a person....I wouldn't"

So, as a person, now that your business is failing, you are having second thoughts.

"I LOVE MY DEAD, GAY SON!!"

/is it too ***gasp*** late ***gasp*** for the vaccine? **gasp***
 
2021-07-24 10:00:39 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: As a businessman let me share a little secret, Capitalismo is toxic and one of the primary threats to the Globe. The real Kings of Capitalism today are Xi and Putin, both communists or former communists with none of the supposed "moral"underpinnings that Western Capitalism pretends to guide them, ala Adam Smith (or was it Edmund Burke)IDK, and is just a cover for its fundamentally destructive nature of most for the "profit" of the few.

The Queens England always acts like they're above reproach ethically precisely because they are and have always been The Pirate Nation. My understanding of modern capitalism is that it stems from Henry the VIII, and his Letter of Marque, which granted rovering privateers license to go anywhere, do anything and generally act in the most lawless way possible, especially to Asians, Indians ( from India), and Africans, not to mention the also rapacious Spanish French Dutch, Germans and Russians, and pretty much everyone else.

America, with its appropriation of all Native American lands without so much as a "by your leave" is just an extension of that English system.

OK, I don't really know what I'm talking about, but just dredging up what I think I remember from books I've never read from much earlier in my So Called Education.

Change my mind.


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2021-07-24 10:00:42 AM  

yakmans_dad: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

I love the idea that opening a business makes people smarter.


Indeed. Most of us probably read with some regularity how most small businesses fail in the first year. I've always been amused watching specific locations that seem to play musical chairs with businesses moving in and out every year or two, sometimes with the same type of business repeating itself. Have been friendly with a number of small business owners. Most of them have said: "Don't ever open a..."

(As laypeople we sometimes watch the dollars coming in at a shop and imagine it's all profit with no expenses, don't consider that they still have the same home expenses, and no income to cover them when business is bad.)
 
2021-07-24 10:01:02 AM  
Putin wins again! At least the ultra right wing conservatives are happy with the European great unwashed citizenry not cluttering up their pristine Isle.
 
2021-07-24 10:03:57 AM  
Manchester club owner rocked by unforeseen consequences. Totally unforeseen.
 
2021-07-24 10:06:40 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


He said business man not thinking man.
 
2021-07-24 10:10:13 AM  
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2021-07-24 10:10:37 AM  

Murkanen: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

You haven't met a lot of business men I take it.

There's a reason why most businesses fold like a lawn chair before their 5th year.


Ah, but what if your business is making or selling lawn chairs?
 
2021-07-24 10:11:25 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


I still don't understand why the UK government made a massive decision regarding international political alignment based on a single snapshot of opinion in a non-binding referendum.
We screw a lot of things up in the US, but when one of my home states decided we want to amend our state constitution, it takes two YES votes in two consecutive biennial general elections.
 
2021-07-24 10:14:20 AM  

washburn777: 10 to 1 the Brits will still fall for whatever Nigel sells them next when he inevitably resurfaces with another bright idea.


He really only appeals to the hardcore gammons, the milder ones listen to Boris
 
2021-07-24 10:15:44 AM  

Lexx: Brits will never forget the pride and hubris of being a superpower.  The sun has set on The British Empire, and they're never going to accept that, much less forgive it.


The sun never set on the British Empire only because even God couldn't trust Englishmen in the dark.
 
2021-07-24 10:15:53 AM  

Target Builder: Weird. The exact thing they Remain crowd said would happen is happening despite being dismissed as a fearmongering fever dream by Leave.

It's almost as though one side was absolutely full of shiat and willing to say whatever it took to whoever it took to get them to vote Leave, but without any consistent plan for how they'd actually make good on their wildly optimistic and often mutually exclusive promises.


Yeah, but if we ignore human nature, we can think up all sorts of great social and economic ideas.

Libertarianism is just autism that failed calculus.
 
2021-07-24 10:18:05 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


"Well, as a mother, ..."
"Miss, let me stop you right there. Successfully figuring out how to bone doesn't qualify you to do anything except humanity's oldest profession. So unless you're about to opine on whoring, keep it to yourself."
 
2021-07-24 10:18:20 AM  
As a Yank who ignores anything happening outside US borders, I haven't kept up with the fine details of Brexit. But it seems obvious to me that if you are going to cut off a cheap labor pool, you are going to royally fark yourself if you aren't simultaneously negotiating a deal to bring in cheap labor from somewhere else. Asia or central America or something.

Did that not happen? Because if not, that's really dumb.
 
2021-07-24 10:19:31 AM  

rolladuck: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

I still don't understand why the UK government made a massive decision regarding international political alignment based on a single snapshot of opinion in a non-binding referendum.
We screw a lot of things up in the US, but when one of my home states decided we want to amend our state constitution, it takes two YES votes in two consecutive biennial general elections.


In a 2013 letter unearthed by the Financial Times to then-president of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, thePrime Minister of the United KingdomDavid Cameron said that offshore trusts should not automatically be subject to the same transparency requirements as shell companies. Some analysts suggested that these actions may affect the outcome of the referendum on UK membership of the EU.
Cameron was up to his neck in Panama tax avoidance as was a large number of Brexiteers and Tories. Strangely enough they wanted out of the EU before a court higher than their own ones started looking at them more closely and demanding even more transparency about what a bunch of robber barons they were.
 
2021-07-24 10:19:43 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


I'd mock them without mercy, but as about a quarter of us voted for Trump, it's hard to claim a lot of moral high ground - our short-sighted, nationalistic idiots are dumber than their short-sighted, nationalistic idiots.

The only real difference is that we have the opportunity to reverse our idiocy every four years. They're screwed for rather a much longer time.
 
2021-07-24 10:23:24 AM  
What I could never understand is that after the surprising result of the NON-BINDING 2016 public referendum, after which it seemed like many people who protest-voted for brexit immediately and publicly expressed regret, every politician in charge acted as though it was their god-given obligation to push it through no matter what.

The whole process took years to complete, and at any time along the way any of the PMs could have said, "It has become clear to the British people that Brexit involves more than just a flip of a switch, so before moving forward with finalized Brexit agreement, we will let the people vote on it."  It would have gone down in flames as by then it was already known to be a shiatshow.  I was hoping for the Queen to make an unprecedented move to save the day and nudge a politician in the right direction, but I know that's not how things work.

The whole idea of putting an existing, major treaty up for a 50%+1 popular vote was stupid -- people are too fickle.

It'd be like Texas voting to secede every year, the measure always losing 25-75, but then one year...in an alternate history 2017...it passes 51-49.  Then the Texas government just plows through with secession over the next four years even if it became clear it'd lose the popular vote again in 2018-onwards.
 
2021-07-24 10:23:39 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


That's pretty much exactly how it happened and a part of me is glad to see it's not a uniquely American thing. Too many people who never heard of dunning-kruger but really should I seem to feel that if they identify themselves as a businessman, a parent, or some other entity that they are now instantly experts in everything that affects them. In reality, people that voted for Brexit or led around by the nose by their own corrupt politicians and hostile foreign interests that wanted to see their nation destabilized. The same thing mostly happened here and it could very well be argued that it is still happening here.
 
2021-07-24 10:24:29 AM  

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Honey, you've done Brexit. The next vote would be for Brhatinhandsorryaboutthatwholehatefore​ignersreadmitting
 
2021-07-24 10:28:23 AM  

rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.


That is supposed to be the whole idea of the difference between business and government. Business by its own nature is out for itself. In a more simplistic ideal, businesses make a product that people need and then make profits based on that product. In reality businesses are about making money, even when there isn't a product to sell. There is no altruism, there is only a selfish motive to get more money. This is antithetical to the needs of a government. Government is there to provide the things a society needs that businesses cannot or will not provide.
 
2021-07-24 10:28:51 AM  
Seeing as the we have a common language, it's unsurprising they spell racist as "businessman" just like we do!
 
2021-07-24 10:31:45 AM  

IamTomJoad: Gotta love the "as a businessman, I voted Brexit" but "now, as a person....I wouldn't"

So, as a person, now that your business is failing, you are having second thoughts.

"I LOVE MY DEAD, GAY SON!!"

/is it too ***gasp*** late ***gasp*** for the vaccine? **gasp***


The power of Brexit has turned him from an ugly businessman into a beautiful person.
 
2021-07-24 10:32:04 AM  
Cascading consequences
 
2021-07-24 10:32:53 AM  

Gpzjock: As a businessman he thought getting rid of all the minimum wage immigrant workers and the European logistics hub meant he would thrive with the same pisspoor business model that he developed while they were still here.
Um, no.


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X-Geek: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

All the bad people would be thrown out of the country, and all the money that was spent on their welfare and health care would be taken by the Brexit Fairy who would leave it under the pillows of all the good little business owners.

Also, burgundy passports.


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The only people willing to work at those places for a minimum wage were those "bad" (immigrant) people, and the reason they needed welfare was because their wages didn't pay enough for their living expenses. Just like here in the US where WalMart "helps" its minimum-wage employees sign up for welfare and food-assistance programs (and WalMart profits more when the employees use their company discount to spend their assistance funds at WM).

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Tyrosine: I don't know what he's complaining about, he got exactly what he wanted. Surely he must have been aware that a lot of his staff were from Europe and that they couldn't work for him post brexit. He must also have been aware that a lot of truck drivers were also from the continent, and that they couldn't work in the U.K. after brexit.

The reason these people were hired in the first place was that the locals wouldn't do those jobs for the pay being offered. Brexit removed that pool of cheap labor, so now those businesses will have to pony up more money to fill those positions or close.


Natalie Portmanteau:
Which, if they nut up and start paying more, that money will go right back into the local economy, and might start to improve things....

That too.
 
2021-07-24 10:32:54 AM  

rolladuck: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

I still don't understand why the UK government made a massive decision regarding international political alignment based on a single snapshot of opinion in a non-binding referendum.
We screw a lot of things up in the US, but when one of my home states decided we want to amend our state constitution, it takes two YES votes in two consecutive biennial general elections.


We just voted the 2 vote thing down in FL. Mostly cuz the farking legislature corrupts the intent of every amendment we pass anyway. Perhaps a first vote to determine voters' preference on an issue and instructs the legislature to craft the exact language of the law, which is voted on the second time. If passed, it is adopted directly into law as worded.  That might let the voters know exactly what the hell we're really voting for.
 
2021-07-24 10:35:42 AM  

iheartscotch: I wonder if he's considered paying MORE than minimum wage.


In his mind, that would be something a BAD businessman would do.
 
2021-07-24 10:40:33 AM  

lolmao500: Befuddled: British farmers are facing a real crisis as there is no one to pick their crops now that Eastern Europeans can't freely travel there.

Oh noes anyway. White british people not being able to rely on slaves for the first time in their history. Aint that a shame.


Every first world nation relies on third world labor to do the crappy yet necessary jobs.
 
2021-07-24 10:41:23 AM  
Obligatory - from Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol", Stave 1:

"But you were always a good man of business, Jacob," faltered Scrooge, who now began to apply this to himself.

"Business!" cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again.  "Mankind was my business.  The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business.  The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!"


/ this barkeep was not even a good "man of business"
 
2021-07-24 10:42:23 AM  
Brexit and MAGA: Both speeding their countries towards being lands of a thousand monuments and zero modern accomplishments.
 
2021-07-24 10:43:23 AM  

gremlin79: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

He didn't say he was good at it


As a failed business man
 
2021-07-24 10:43:49 AM  

Superjoe: IamTomJoad: Gotta love the "as a businessman, I voted Brexit" but "now, as a person....I wouldn't"

So, as a person, now that your business is failing, you are having second thoughts.

"I LOVE MY DEAD, GAY SON!!"

/is it too ***gasp*** late ***gasp*** for the vaccine? **gasp***

The power of Brexit has turned him from an ugly businessman into a beautiful person.


Naw, he still blames Brexit for his bad decision.
 
2021-07-24 10:44:51 AM  

rolladuck: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

I still don't understand why the UK government made a massive decision regarding international political alignment based on a single snapshot of opinion in a non-binding referendum.
We screw a lot of things up in the US, but when one of my home states decided we want to amend our state constitution, it takes two YES votes in two consecutive biennial general elections.


Because the point was to f__k the country up. The people who pushed for and coordinated this mess are traitors working for a nation that has been a complete shiatheel for the last 500 years to anyone within reach.
 
2021-07-24 10:45:42 AM  

brokenbiscuits: Iwanted to move to the UK, and had designs on doing so, before Brexit. Friends there were upset that it passed but assured me things weren't going to go to shiat so I kept up working on finding a good job over there. But then... Something told me to put it on hold and see how it pans out.

I'm glad I did. I'm either going to start looking in the EU or wait a couple years and see if the UK unfarks itself, which I'm not holding my breath for.


What are your concerns as a foreigner coming into Britain? The biggest loss to the British people was "freedom of movement" which you wouldn't have been eligible for anyways. Thanks to the combination of Brexit and Covid, wage inflation is going nuts right now. One of the guys who was working for me in London just jumped from £80k to £120k and had multiple competing offers.

If you're happy being poor because you take anti-UK sentiment to heart on Fark, good for you, but typically I would suggest you try to separate your finances and life goals from your political persuasion...
 
2021-07-24 10:51:20 AM  

gilgigamesh: As a Yank who ignores anything happening outside US borders, I haven't kept up with the fine details of Brexit. But it seems obvious to me that if you are going to cut off a cheap labor pool, you are going to royally fark yourself if you aren't simultaneously negotiating a deal to bring in cheap labor from somewhere else. Asia or central America or something.

Did that not happen? Because if not, that's really dumb.


They instituted a 'points-based' system that effectively bars low-skill and low-wage labour, unless they have PhD, apparently.
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2021-07-24 10:51:39 AM  

rummonkey: Business by its own nature is out for itself. In a more simplistic ideal, businesses make a product that people need and then make profits based on that product. In reality businesses are about making money, even when there isn't a product to sell. There is no altruism, there is only a selfish motive to get more money.


Yes.  You have just described my mother.
 
2021-07-24 10:57:08 AM  
He voted as a businessman? Did he think it was too easy running a business and want to add 20 layers of trade and immigration laws to give himself a challenge? He probably voted more as a racist than a businessman but it sounds better to say "As a businessman."
 
2021-07-24 11:02:24 AM  

Shaggy_C: brokenbiscuits: Iwanted to move to the UK, and had designs on doing so, before Brexit. Friends there were upset that it passed but assured me things weren't going to go to shiat so I kept up working on finding a good job over there. But then... Something told me to put it on hold and see how it pans out.

I'm glad I did. I'm either going to start looking in the EU or wait a couple years and see if the UK unfarks itself, which I'm not holding my breath for.

What are your concerns as a foreigner coming into Britain? The biggest loss to the British people was "freedom of movement" which you wouldn't have been eligible for anyways. Thanks to the combination of Brexit and Covid, wage inflation is going nuts right now. One of the guys who was working for me in London just jumped from £80k to £120k and had multiple competing offers.

If you're happy being poor because you take anti-UK sentiment to heart on Fark, good for you, but typically I would suggest you try to separate your finances and life goals from your political persuasion...


You need to solve your pooping
 
2021-07-24 11:02:48 AM  

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2021-07-24 11:04:39 AM  
Not too soon to start a campaign to rejoin the EU, brits.
 
2021-07-24 11:05:48 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


Money would rain down and bless him for his devotion to the purity of the white race.
 
2021-07-24 11:07:32 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


Let me tell you, as a trans woman, I think you're right.
 
2021-07-24 11:07:44 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


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2021-07-24 11:08:39 AM  
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2021-07-24 11:09:10 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Change my mind.


Your mind doesn't need changing. Well, except that England changed a heck of a lot when they canceled the Atlantic slave trade, and were defeated later in the Boer War. The Pirate Nation was defeated by Gandhi's nonviolence and Kwame Nkrumah's Ghana. Maybe the Mau-Mau rebellion in Kenya is a high-water mark for England's upper class twits' attempt to use despicably exotic torture and slavery to maintain its pirate empire. It was also a high-water mark for decolonization when blood seeped out from the dirt beide the roadway that led to Kenya' slave-labour airport, ensuring that England would never be able to maintain any of their assets through piracy ever again (nobody will be their slave).

The "minimum wage" workers from the Continent probably never had the opportunity to read about England's decolonization horrors. However, many of them, like the Polish underclass, probably knew that England would treat them like migrant non-person, the same way they let the Nazis, then the Soviets, take over. But thoe Poles also knew the EU would offer them some protection, but the Polish diillusionment with the EU (and liberal democracy in general) could be connected to their failure to get England to treat Poles like real persons.
 
2021-07-24 11:10:37 AM  

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2021-07-24 11:12:32 AM  

rummonkey: Government is there to provide the things a society needs that businesses cannot or will not provide.


Yeah... Until political campaign are funded by business, who conider campaigns to be investments. Add that to an electorate who see voting as a business transaction (talk to me directly and then wow me with your pitch), instead of a duty to self-govern, and the purpose of government becomes to serve business by diverting a tax base to shareholders.
 
2021-07-24 11:13:52 AM  

log_jammin: Why doesn't he go pick up the beer himself? Seems like an easy, simple, boot strappy solution.


And do actual work? how dare you
 
2021-07-24 11:14:19 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


As a parent

If I go to sleep and my kids are alive and not in jail, I call it at least a tie
 
2021-07-24 11:16:45 AM  

groppet: He voted as a businessman? Did he think it was too easy running a business and want to add 20 layers of trade and immigration laws to give himself a challenge? He probably voted more as a racist than a businessman but it sounds better to say "As a businessman."


In my experience, "businessman" is just another word for "bigot with money".
 
2021-07-24 11:17:18 AM  
Brits could very well be the migrant workers in the near future, heading into Eastern Europe to plow the fields and tar the roofs.
 
2021-07-24 11:22:55 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: rummonkey: Government is there to provide the things a society needs that businesses cannot or will not provide.

Yeah... Until political campaign are funded by business, who conider campaigns to be investments. Add that to an electorate who see voting as a business transaction (talk to me directly and then wow me with your pitch), instead of a duty to self-govern, and the purpose of government becomes to serve business by diverting a tax base to shareholders.


That is the Trap that we fell into here. It's a shame we couldn't follow the example of some Scandinavian and European countries where, while it's not the perfect balance, at least they still have enough of a dedication to caring for their own population before business needs.
 
2021-07-24 11:26:01 AM  
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2021-07-24 11:35:48 AM  

Shaggy_C: gilgigamesh: As a Yank who ignores anything happening outside US borders, I haven't kept up with the fine details of Brexit. But it seems obvious to me that if you are going to cut off a cheap labor pool, you are going to royally fark yourself if you aren't simultaneously negotiating a deal to bring in cheap labor from somewhere else. Asia or central America or something.

Did that not happen? Because if not, that's really dumb.

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My guess is they're promptly going to designate crop picking and waiting tables as essential areas with a labor shortage.
 
2021-07-24 11:37:44 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


He thought the rest of Europe would get on their knees and do everything Britain wanted.
 
2021-07-24 11:41:13 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


he reminds me of the florets who got 100% of his flowers from EU countries and voted Brexit for reasons.

"I have a cunning plan"

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2021-07-24 11:44:39 AM  

LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.  It seems that most of his staff are not English but other countries in the EU.  An immediate repercussion of Brexit is that he loses most of his staff.  Didn't think that through.  Did you, Rockefeller?

He goes on to acknowledge that many of the hospitality customers are from the EU.  Brexit will make him lose much of his customer base.  Rather than acknowledge he made a big mistake that was probably driven by racism, he complains about the negative effects.  Nice.


Interestingly, I think he is the owner of a Manchester gay bar. Bar Pop (pop). It's on Canal Street, the big gay area in Manchester (so well known that the "C" of Canal Street is usually rubbed out on the street sign).

I would have thought that staying in the EU would offer better protection for LGBQT+ than whatever Johnson's Britain has to offer.
 
2021-07-24 11:47:11 AM  

Hoobajube: What I could never understand is that after the surprising result of the NON-BINDING 2016 public referendum, after which it seemed like many people who protest-voted for brexit immediately and publicly expressed regret, every politician in charge acted as though it was their god-given obligation to push it through no matter what.

The whole process took years to complete, and at any time along the way any of the PMs could have said, "It has become clear to the British people that Brexit involves more than just a flip of a switch, so before moving forward with finalized Brexit agreement, we will let the people vote on it."  It would have gone down in flames as by then it was already known to be a shiatshow.  I was hoping for the Queen to make an unprecedented move to save the day and nudge a politician in the right direction, but I know that's not how things work.

The whole idea of putting an existing, major treaty up for a 50%+1 popular vote was stupid -- people are too fickle.

It'd be like Texas voting to secede every year, the measure always losing 25-75, but then one year...in an alternate history 2017...it passes 51-49.  Then the Texas government just plows through with secession over the next four years even if it became clear it'd lose the popular vote again in 2018-onwards.


Yeah, that sort of thing will happen when the voters keep returning the pro-Brexit party to power
 
2021-07-24 11:53:37 AM  
Unedited "well, as a racistbusinessman, who made a living on the backs of foreigners who work for shiate wages,I voted for Brexit.

I'm still racist....but now I'm going broke and would like to have cheap labor again.

Woe is me
 
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2021-07-24 11:56:47 AM  

Befuddled: British farmers are facing a real crisis as there is no one to pick their crops now that Eastern Europeans can't freely travel there.


Be a real shame if all that black pudding rots in the fields unharvested.
 
2021-07-24 11:57:04 AM  

talkertopc: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

He thought the rest of Europe would get on their knees and do everything Britain wanted.


Yup, the Leave part of Brexit greatly overestimated the importance of the UK to the rest of the world.

That's the big flaw with MAGA as well.  They both just think that their countries are important because reasons.  They both refuse to see that the world economy can be reconfigured to leave them out.  That's far simpler in the case of the UK than the US, but both are very much possible.
 
2021-07-24 12:05:30 PM  

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Who would have guessed that the draconian nationalist immigration policy that he supported would negatively impact his business which depends heavily on immigrant workers.
 
2021-07-24 12:07:31 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


He never said he was a good businessman
 
2021-07-24 12:18:47 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


That qualifier is there so they can use it as a "you wouldn't know because you're not x" club when you try to tell them they're an idiot.
 
2021-07-24 12:20:20 PM  

Lexx: Brits will never forget the pride and hubris of being a superpower.  The sun has set on The British Empire, and they're never going to accept that, much less forgive it.


That certainly sounds familiar...
 
2021-07-24 12:20:20 PM  
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2021-07-24 12:22:38 PM  
The only thing missing there was him blaming his staff for voting for Brexit for his problems even though they wouldn't have been able to.
 
2021-07-24 12:23:24 PM  

Vacation Bible School: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Being a con artist is a kind of business.


None of you sound very "bootstrappy" to me.
 
2021-07-24 12:25:58 PM  

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This applies to the MAGA bullshiat we are dealing with now.
 
2021-07-24 12:30:50 PM  
Hey how did you fix the misspelled headline? It said "Ctipes" before.
 
2021-07-24 12:31:15 PM  

Shaggy_C: brokenbiscuits: Iwanted to move to the UK, and had designs on doing so, before Brexit. Friends there were upset that it passed but assured me things weren't going to go to shiat so I kept up working on finding a good job over there. But then... Something told me to put it on hold and see how it pans out.

I'm glad I did. I'm either going to start looking in the EU or wait a couple years and see if the UK unfarks itself, which I'm not holding my breath for.

What are your concerns as a foreigner coming into Britain? The biggest loss to the British people was "freedom of movement" which you wouldn't have been eligible for anyways. Thanks to the combination of Brexit and Covid, wage inflation is going nuts right now. One of the guys who was working for me in London just jumped from £80k to £120k and had multiple competing offers.

If you're happy being poor because you take anti-UK sentiment to heart on Fark, good for you, but typically I would suggest you try to separate your finances and life goals from your political persuasion...


1) Primary concern: shortages. My wife has family across the pond who routinely complains about shortages of even local products as the EU citizenry apparently did loads of manufacturing and logistics work. Which this article touches addresses.

The United States is a repressively capitalist country which sucks because of the drastic income disparity but it means that if someone sits at upper-middle class income they don't have to worry about shortages much.

Secondary concern: exclusionary mentalities. The fixation on getting a subset of EU-origin residents out of the country that they were willing to harm themselves politically, socially, and at least somewhat fiscally.

2) I work in tech. If you want to use gross income as a measure, I make more than your friend's maximum offer by the equivalent of several thousand pounds.

And yes, I will make decisions based on things like politics, sociological norms, and state of ethics. I'm not going to base my decision on where I live purely on how much money I can make there. If the political climate is hostile to my ethos I'm not going to be happy, regardless of how much I have in my bank account.
 
2021-07-24 12:36:12 PM  
Meh. A businessman as shiatty as that would've gone out of business eventually anyway.
 
2021-07-24 12:38:24 PM  

iheartscotch: I wonder if he's considered paying MORE than minimum wage.


My aunt was trying to hire a data entry person for several weeks without any success, so she got her boss to agree to offer $17/hour instead of $15, and at the same time to bump up everyone's pay by the same amount. Result: last week, the mood in the office abruptly went from stressed and overworked to happy and motivated, and she's picking through several promising applications for the empty position.

This is just a small regional pizza chain, but at the ground level, people are beginning to adjust to reality.
 
2021-07-24 12:40:02 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


As a businessman and a parent, your giraffe isn't worth a budgie, and I should know.
 
2021-07-24 12:44:06 PM  

brokenbiscuits: And yes, I will make decisions based on things like politics, sociological norms, and state of ethics. I'm not going to base my decision on where I live purely on how much money I can make there. If the political climate is hostile to my ethos I'm not going to be happy, regardless of how much I have in my bank account.


AYUP.

Someone I know took a job in Dubai and that kinda tells me everything I need to know about him.
 
2021-07-24 1:02:34 PM  

LordBeavis: "As a businessman, I voted Brexit."

Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.  It seems that most of his staff are not English but other countries in the EU.  An immediate repercussion of Brexit is that he loses most of his staff.  Didn't think that through.  Did you, Rockefeller?

He goes on to acknowledge that many of the hospitality customers are from the EU.  Brexit will make him lose much of his customer base.  Rather than acknowledge he made a big mistake that was probably driven by racism, he complains about the negative effects.  Nice.


Behavior like this and the no-gays bakeries show that Business people can be just as stupid as anyone else.  The Republican/Libertarian belief that "Job Creators" are somehow above the rest of us is wrong and stupid.
 
2021-07-24 1:19:49 PM  
This guy could be transported to the 1860's and be making the same comments.

"But...but...without free labor how am I supposed to run my plantation?"
 
2021-07-24 1:23:04 PM  

Xai: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: I can't wait for our special someone to jump in and tell us how good this is for England.
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nah he just pretends he can't see all the dozens of negative stories about brexit.


To be fair, he has commented on some negative stories, and acknowledges they're bad for England - he just tries to spin them as the EU being a "bully" and how evil we are for supporting them!

Like the EU requiring British passport holders to use the immigration/visitor queue for non-EU country, instead of the express queue for EU citizens.  In his mind, this is a retaliatory action against the British, rather than just applying the rules consistently.   It doesn't matter that it's something that everyone *knew* would happen (because *duh* Brits aren't members of the EU anymore) we're all evil for supporting the evil bully.
 
2021-07-24 1:31:09 PM  

Murkanen: Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?

You haven't met a lot of business men I take it.

There's a reason why most businesses fold like a lawn chair before their 5th year.


If only he'd made the decision as a top level CEO, then he could have had a golden parachute to softly land him in another CEO position.
 
2021-07-24 1:34:47 PM  
From today's The Guardian as opposed to random Twitter posters:
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2021-07-24 1:52:57 PM  

Gpzjock: As a businessman he thought getting rid of all the minimum wage immigrant workers and the European logistics hub meant he would thrive with the same pisspoor business model that he developed while they were still here.
Um, no.


So, like America and Mexican immigrants.
 
2021-07-24 2:00:53 PM  

LordBeavis: Methinks he is a special kind of idiot and one of the worst businessmen I've seen.


You do not need intelligence to be successful at certain businesses, just a little luck, the starting capital, and to not mess with regulations that will get you shut down (but the last is only needed for long term success, assuming you can not CYA with the right hires).

There are a lot of successful businessmen out there, even ones with degrees, that have no real clue what they are doing.

Though I could also see it as the guy only looking at his immediate costs, and seeing Brexit as a chance to cut salaries (work for less, or I will have you deported, the same way employers tread undocumented workers in the US) thus raise profits, forgetting to check how it would affect sales, or even staffing levels (since most if not all his EU employees could leave and find decent wages outside England)
 
2021-07-24 2:19:44 PM  

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"It" isn't a cockup. You, sir, are the cockup.
 
2021-07-24 2:22:19 PM  
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2021-07-24 2:27:23 PM  

Vacation Bible School: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Being a con artist is a kind of business.


He is less like a con artist and more like a con clown.
 
2021-07-24 2:29:40 PM  

Shaggy_C: He's complaining because he can't find people to work for his shiatty low wages. Rather than be a "ha ha brexit" thread this should be a "pay more ya cheapskate" thread.


Yes, I'm sure that would have cured all his product shortage problems as well.
 
2021-07-24 2:39:59 PM  
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2021-07-24 2:41:03 PM  

rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.


Explain to her that both Soviet and Maoist Communism are what it looks like when a country is run as a business, where the officers of the company are the heads of state and the people are both like a liability similar to employees and are company property to be used or disposed-of as seen fit.
 
2021-07-24 2:51:41 PM  

Kattungali: Xai: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: I can't wait for our special someone to jump in and tell us how good this is for England.
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nah he just pretends he can't see all the dozens of negative stories about brexit.

To be fair, he has commented on some negative stories, and acknowledges they're bad for England - he just tries to spin them as the EU being a "bully" and how evil we are for supporting them!

Like the EU requiring British passport holders to use the immigration/visitor queue for non-EU country, instead of the express queue for EU citizens.  In his mind, this is a retaliatory action against the British, rather than just applying the rules consistently.   It doesn't matter that it's something that everyone *knew* would happen (because *duh* Brits aren't members of the EU anymore) we're all evil for supporting the evil bully.


Strange, we have invoked all the right bait and someone still isn't responding.
1) Minimum wage abuse.
2) EU lorries.
3) Panama Papers conspiracy theory.
4) UK business model failures.
5) Empty supermarket shelves.
6) Even the passport queue.
We have cast the Rite of Asskandi correctly and he has not appeared.
Must be caught up in a traffic jam somewhere in Kent then.
Hang on, let me go take a picture of the price of diesel and say that it is higher because the pound had the shiat kicked out of it for the last 5 years, the duty is extortion and we have to pay tanker drivers more now too.
That should do it.
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2021-07-24 2:53:44 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."


A woman almost backed into me as I was walking through a parking lot. When I was like "WTF lady??" her response was "I am a grandmother of six!!"

I remain baffled.
 
2021-07-24 3:04:55 PM  

austerity101: Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."

A woman almost backed into me as I was walking through a parking lot. When I was like "WTF lady??" her response was "I am a grandmother of six!!"

I remain baffled.


It means she was a grandmother of 7 so, watch you arse.
 
2021-07-24 3:10:16 PM  
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2021-07-24 3:13:21 PM  

Gawdzila: Vacation Bible School: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Being a con artist is a kind of business.

He is less like a con artist and more like a con clown.


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2021-07-24 3:17:53 PM  

metric: Hey how did you fix the misspelled headline? It said "Ctipes" before.


That's the British spellington.
 
2021-07-24 3:25:05 PM  
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2021-07-24 3:30:48 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: metric: Hey how did you fix the misspelled headline? It said "Ctipes" before.

That's the British spellington.


I submitted it just before bed and did a typo.

I reported it to the admins when I noticed and they fixed the spelling. Thanks, admins.

/Thadmins.
//subby
 
2021-07-24 3:33:02 PM  
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2021-07-24 3:40:15 PM  

rosekolodny: Gawdzila: Vacation Bible School: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Being a con artist is a kind of business.

He is less like a con artist and more like a con clown.

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Funny, but also scary and depressing.  Like a sadface clown.
 
2021-07-24 3:47:09 PM  

dkulprit: Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."

They think it does.  They think it absolved them of responsibility because they weren't doing it as an "individual" who may have done it for something like "I don't want those immigrants!".  Nope, they did it as a "business owner" which implies they were doing it for the good of their business.

As far as I'm concerned, unless you articulate what that means, I'm assuming it means "those damn immigrants."

As far as "as a business owner" goes.... I know a ton of dumbass and selfish business owners, so them implying they're infallible by dropping that line, unless I know and respect them, I'm going to assume they're the selfish dumbass variety if they use that line.


I mentioned The Shop on Main Street recently, which was about the Nazis stealing businesses from Jews and giving control of them to local Aryans. It was the "right business decision" for those Aryans, but they were still Nazis.
 
2021-07-24 3:48:28 PM  

LordBeavis: he made a big mistake that was probably driven by racism


Brexit was totally a racist move. That was the driving force behind it.
 
2021-07-24 3:50:31 PM  

yakmans_dad: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

I love the idea that opening a business makes people smarter.


Much like making children doesn't make you an expert at parenting or childhood development.
 
2021-07-24 3:51:56 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


He said he voted "as a businessman", not "as a good businessman".
 
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2021-07-24 3:56:17 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: LordBeavis: he made a big mistake that was probably driven by racism

Brexit was totally a racist move. That was the driving force behind it.


While I totally agree, what always angers me is the fact that it even doesn't achieve their abhorrent racist objectives - which I predicted prior to the vote - and the same people who would want to see fewer 'mooslims' are exactly the same who voted for brexit, which has seen non EU migration rise sharply to offset lower eu migration.

Sadly Ieven have family that did this, and yes I did try.
 
2021-07-24 4:16:05 PM  
:rubs gentlemen's sausage on blue passport:
 
2021-07-24 5:20:13 PM  
Right wing contrarian dick getting the consequences of his actions?

*yawn*

Poor farking baby, why don't you go follow your fellow brexiteers off a farking cliff.
 
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2021-07-24 5:27:46 PM  

thiefofdreams: Right wing contrarian dick getting the consequences of his actions?

*yawn*

Poor farking baby, why don't you go follow your fellow brexiteers off a farking cliff.


I suggest a nice stay in Dover.
 
2021-07-24 6:12:50 PM  
Apparently, he didn't learn economics in business school.
 
2021-07-24 7:32:08 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: How does voting away your staff and suppliers equate with voting "as a businessman," exactly?


He's saying it wasn't a personal, racist decision - just a classist one!
 
2021-07-24 8:36:45 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?


Serious business.
 
2021-07-24 9:40:20 PM  

ImOscar: wademh: rosekolodny: wademh: thatguyoverthere70: He said he voted for brexit as a business man. serious question: what did he think was going to happen?

You see, when a businessman votes, he acts like an idiot and does stupid things that he thinks are smart because he imagines himself smart because he's a businessman. There's a special cloak you wear, you get them and Dunning and Kruger's department store. It's like a cloak of invisibility but the wearer wears it as a cloak of invulnerability bestowed upon them by the Sacred Royal Order of Businessmen.

My mother voted for trump because "he's a businessman."

There's no explaining to her that even if he were a good businessman - which he is not - I don't want my country run like a business.

Worse yet, a "businessman" whose idea of being a good businessman is going around firing people.

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Wow, that actually looks like a part of The Office I'd want to watch.

/most of it is just 'laugh at this person who's embarrassing'. I don't actually find that funny--if someone's being embarrassing, there's usually a reason, and support works better than laughing at people.
//also I may have the white-trash origin story, but I have at least enough class not to try to punish people for being awkward by laughing at them.
///That, though? That looks good--that IS what leaders should do, especially in a f*cking unnatural situation like a modern-day corporation. That's damn well what I was taught in Girl Scouts, and while I may not be a girl, they have a wonderful grip on how to lead people.
 
amb
2021-07-24 10:39:17 PM  

Tyrosine: I don't know what he's complaining about, he got exactly what he wanted. Surely he must have been aware that a lot of his staff were from Europe and that they couldn't work for him post brexit. He must also have been aware that a lot of truck drivers were also from the continent, and that they couldn't work in the U.K. after brexit.

The reason these people were hired in the first place was that the locals wouldn't do those jobs for the pay being offered. Brexit removed that pool of cheap labor, so now those businesses will have to pony up more money to fill those positions or close.


He'll just expect the patrons to start tipping.
 
2021-07-25 1:10:32 AM  
He voted for Brexit as an anti-immigrant white man, and now he's thinking like a business person. He's bad at business and a terrible human being.
 
2021-07-25 4:55:21 AM  

amb: Tyrosine: I don't know what he's complaining about, he got exactly what he wanted. Surely he must have been aware that a lot of his staff were from Europe and that they couldn't work for him post brexit. He must also have been aware that a lot of truck drivers were also from the continent, and that they couldn't work in the U.K. after brexit.

The reason these people were hired in the first place was that the locals wouldn't do those jobs for the pay being offered. Brexit removed that pool of cheap labor, so now those businesses will have to pony up more money to fill those positions or close.

He'll just expect the patrons to start tipping.


If the british attempt to adopt tipping culture to try an fix their little self-inflicted problem that's a sure sign they are still not learning from their mistakes and its best to avoid them entirely.
 
2021-07-25 7:20:28 AM  

Aar1012: Dr. Nick Riviera: I think this is one of those situations where people add "as a businessman" to whatever bullshiat they are spouting and they think it makes them infallible.  Just like "as a parent."

We can do that!?

As a parent, I think it's okay to add a little coffee to my morning Irish whisky. How else will I start my day?


As a businessman, I endorse your decision.

/adds a shot
 
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