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(KING 5 News)   Three weeks after one of the most highly vaccinated counties in the US dropped its masking directive, that county again recommends all people wear masks in indoor public spaces   (king5.com) divider line
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2021-07-23 11:02:09 PM  
As foretold.

Over and over and over again.
 
2021-07-23 11:21:43 PM  
Makes sense. A county that has that high of a vaccination rate is responsible and they recognize the shiat show that's coming.  Of course they are recommending wearing masks.
 
2021-07-24 12:21:20 AM  
masks are required...

this message has benn brought to you by 3M, can we keep doing this until every employee is a millionaire ?
 
2021-07-24 12:21:49 AM  
It's a 120-day cycle since the beginning of this crap.   I sure as hell hope we don't hit anywhere near the max we hit last winter but even half that would be awful.   Based on vax rates, half might be about what we will get.
 
2021-07-24 12:22:07 AM  
I'm not exactly happy about everyone's maskless bubble shrinking again, but I do feel a bit safer and will do my part.
 
2021-07-24 12:23:18 AM  
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2021-07-24 12:23:26 AM  
Yup, I'm wearing masks everytime I step inside any place that isn't my home for the foreseeable future. I'm on the waiting list for Project Hazel, even.
 
2021-07-24 12:27:59 AM  
Same here in Humboldt. They just issued the same recommendations here today.

*sigh*
 
2021-07-24 12:29:38 AM  
Delta: we love to infect, and it shows.
 
2021-07-24 12:32:09 AM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Yup, I'm wearing masks everytime I step inside any place that isn't my home for the foreseeable future. I'm on the waiting list for Project Hazel, even.


I had no idea what that was. Just went to the website and put my name down as well.
 
2021-07-24 12:34:56 AM  
The republicans don't realize their base can't vote if they die of covid, which I am ok with.
 
2021-07-24 12:38:56 AM  
Same in St. Louis City and County.

Our dumbass state AG who is too busy campaigning to do his actual job is planning to fight it.

https://www.kmov.com/news/missouri-ag​-​wants-to-file-a-lawsuit-to-stop-upcomi​ng-mask-mandate-in-st-louis/article_66​e78dbe-ec27-11eb-9ae5-4b8c8fe702b3.htm​l?block_id=990844
 
2021-07-24 12:39:18 AM  
As someone affected by this, I'm okay with it.

The signs on the buildings say "if you're vaccinated, you don't need a mask, otherwise you do." But all that means is that the unvaccinated, who wouldn't wear a mask if not forced to, will lie and go forth without masks.

We can't count on the good sense and community spirit of these people, so it's back to wearing masks again.
 
2021-07-24 12:39:29 AM  

chewynathan2: The republicans don't realize their base can't vote if they die of covid, which I am ok with.


I promise you people who are dumb enough not to get vaccinated are sure as hell not wearing masks in public. It's an intelligence test, and they are failing on both counts

/ Playing soccer with a mask sucks
// Shape up you plague creatures
 
2021-07-24 12:40:47 AM  
Don't recommend it. Require it and enforce consequences for those who don't abide. It's been made abundantly clear we do not have the capacity to voluntarily look out for each other.
 
2021-07-24 12:47:52 AM  
My prediction is that in 3 months, we won't have lockdowns or mask mandates anymore; we'll just accept Covid deaths as the cost of Murican freedom, like we do with deaths due to gun violence, heart disease, homelessness, bankruptcy, opioid overdoses...
 
2021-07-24 12:50:16 AM  
As someone living in one of the US's most highly vaccinated counties, I can tell you that a lot of people are not waiting for some mandate because it is pretty much a no-brainer at this point to see how quickly cases can skyrocket and that with more cases there will be more breakout cases and add to that any new mutations that don't give a flying f! about any vaccine.

All in all you look at some other states and wonder if their governors get a kick out of watching people die needlessly.
 
2021-07-24 12:52:08 AM  

Fonaibung: My prediction is that in 3 months, we won't have lockdowns or mask mandates anymore; we'll just accept Covid deaths as the cost of Murican freedom, like we do with deaths due to gun violence


It's too soon to talk about covid control
 
2021-07-24 12:54:15 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: As someone affected by this, I'm okay with it.

The signs on the buildings say "if you're vaccinated, you don't need a mask, otherwise you do." But all that means is that the unvaccinated, who wouldn't wear a mask if not forced to, will lie and go forth without masks.

We can't count on the good sense and community spirit of these people, so it's back to wearing masks again.


Can't count on people to be honest or the business to enforce their own policy. The shops near me that have similar signage just don't seem to care. I've lost count the number of times I've seen parents with kids that are obviously too young to be vaccinated yet none of them are wearing a mask.
 
2021-07-24 12:54:50 AM  

Karma Chameleon: Don't recommend it. Require it and enforce consequences for those who don't abide. It's been made abundantly clear we do not have the capacity to voluntarily look out for each other.


This. We have an entire farking political party of Mary Mallons. They need to be stopped, and unfortunately, I don't think we have access to any islands big and empty enough to quarantine the whole damn GQP.
 
2021-07-24 12:57:14 AM  
WTP 2:

We can, but that's because we wear masks.

The maskless will perish
 
2021-07-24 12:58:39 AM  

Cafe Threads: As foretold.

Over and over and over again.


Commissioner Woundwort am winning again!
 
2021-07-24 12:58:58 AM  
I think we have passed the Rubicon, at this point we are going to let a percentage die.  Our current deal, is not gonna do shiat, if you are at risk hide the fark out.  If you have contact with the at risk, hide the fark out.   Death deal 5.0 is coming.
 
2021-07-24 12:59:03 AM  
"don't wear a mask, wear a mask, they don't work, they work better than anything, don't bother after you have been vaccinated..."

I have heard it all. Seriously. Every possible thing you could say about mask effectiveness or uselessness has already been said by somebody.

You know what I saw at the Olympics last night? Everyone wearing a mask. I saw about four people out of hundreds who had their nose showing. Just wear a mask. It is good enough for Olympic athletes, the Emperor, and about 130 million other people in Japan who just are not getting sick and dying all over the place. Putting a stupid piece of paper over your mouth and nose reduces a deadly infectious illness to an afterthought.

The politics of masks are dumb. The ideology is dumb. Announcing this or that about mask policy is dumb. Stop pretending that it is difficult or offensive to wear a mask, or that it signals something. It doesn't.

I propose that we just all start wearing masks indefinitely. Let's start from there. Someday we might have a festival where we all take them off and burn them, yippee. Or, if we keep screwing up, maybe our children will.

Until then, let our masks be a badge of human fallibility and folly. Let's wear them with pride and shame just as we wear underwear, codpieces, merkins, and g-strings. If we could only control ourselves and our weaknesses, we would not need to wear these garments. Being human, we do express that need, and we do require certain garments.
 
2021-07-24 1:04:48 AM  
I really wish they would break the statistics down further - sure, 97% of all Covid related hospitalizations and deaths are amongst the non-vaccinated, but what percentage of those people CHOSE not to get the vaccine?
 
2021-07-24 1:06:26 AM  

hoihoi8: chewynathan2: The republicans don't realize their base can't vote if they die of covid, which I am ok with.

I promise you people who are dumb enough not to get vaccinated are sure as hell not wearing masks in public. It's an intelligence test, and they are failing on both counts

/ Playing soccer with a mask sucks
// Shape up you plague creatures


In a HAZMATs waste/operator course, we had to play frizbee while wearing the full bunny-suits and SCBA. That was interesting.
 
2021-07-24 1:07:41 AM  
King county resident, I've been wearing masks for well over a year.
Also, the family is vaccinated.

And I wear glasses!
 
2021-07-24 1:08:10 AM  
Working in health care we have been told to expect to wear masks for the foreseeable future. This isn't looking good.
 
2021-07-24 1:08:58 AM  

chewynathan2: The republicans don't realize their base can't vote if they die of covid, which I am ok with.


They'll vote anyway.
 
2021-07-24 1:11:13 AM  
I
Don't
Trust
Any
Of
You


No offense.
 
2021-07-24 1:15:07 AM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Yup, I'm wearing masks everytime I step inside any place that isn't my home for the foreseeable future. I'm on the waiting list for Project Hazel, even.


So am I. A few months ago masks were common where I am. Now they've become disappointingly rare. I've had a truly awful month this month with an absurd amount of problems dumped on me from all directions and in dealing with them have had to go to a lot of places I've not been to in ages. Half the time there isn't another masked person in sight.

The only exception is the local ice cream shop where I buy my coffee. All of the employees wear masks at all times. They've been very good about being covid responsible, which is one of the reasons they continue to get my business.
 
2021-07-24 1:16:12 AM  
So long as it keeps disproportionately impacting republicans, conservatives, religious nuts, antivaxxers, and stupid people (a lot of overlap here, but allow me the nuance.) it's actually doing more good than harm.

I hope you stupid pig-headed farks all drop dead drowning in your own lungs while you shiat out your own failing organs. I hope it hurts. I hope you suffer. I hope you are afraid in your last moments. I hope you are farking terrified, alone, and in absolute agony.
 
2021-07-24 1:17:37 AM  

educated: I
Don't
Trust
Any
Of
You


No offense.


None taken. I don't trust me, either. I'm convinced I'm up to something, and I won't rest until I figure out what it is.
 
2021-07-24 1:21:24 AM  

Badafuco: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Yup, I'm wearing masks everytime I step inside any place that isn't my home for the foreseeable future. I'm on the waiting list for Project Hazel, even.

I had no idea what that was. Just went to the website and put my name down as well.


Is this the one that will.I.am is a part of ?
I saw this or one similar coming soon but thought they missed the wave

ha
was I wrong
 
2021-07-24 1:22:43 AM  

W_Scarlet: So long as it keeps disproportionately impacting republicans, conservatives, religious nuts, antivaxxers, and stupid people (a lot of overlap here, but allow me the nuance.) it's actually doing more good than harm.

I hope you stupid pig-headed farks all drop dead drowning in your own lungs while you shiat out your own failing organs. I hope it hurts. I hope you suffer. I hope you are afraid in your last moments. I hope you are farking terrified, alone, and in absolute agony.


I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
 
2021-07-24 1:25:06 AM  

chewynathan2: The republicans don't realize their base can't vote if they die of covid, which I am ok with.


They just did, as of today.
 
2021-07-24 1:26:04 AM  

educated: I
Don't
Trust
Any
Of
You


No offense.


Non taken.

You shouldn't.
 
2021-07-24 1:32:29 AM  
The latest evidence I've seen about the mRNA vaccines is that (a) they're about 64% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 (delta variant) (Israeli Ministry of Health), only 0.036% of those with the mRNA vaccine, caught the delta variant, and were admitted to the hospital died (Better Health England study), that vaccinated people have a low enough viral load when infected that they're not vectors, and the vast majority of delta variant infections are among the unvaccinated.

If all this is correct, why do those fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine have to wear masks?
 
2021-07-24 1:34:59 AM  

W_Scarlet: So long as it keeps disproportionately impacting republicans, conservatives, religious nuts, antivaxxers, and stupid people (a lot of overlap here, but allow me the nuance.) it's actually doing more good than harm.

I hope you stupid pig-headed farks all drop dead drowning in your own lungs while you shiat out your own failing organs. I hope it hurts. I hope you suffer. I hope you are afraid in your last moments. I hope you are farking terrified, alone, and in absolute agony.


That's f*cking brutal.

Really? You hope that?

Not just explosive diarrhea for a month?

'Cause, I mean...
 
2021-07-24 1:36:31 AM  

Spermbot: The latest evidence I've seen about the mRNA vaccines is that (a) they're about 64% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 (delta variant) (Israeli Ministry of Health), only 0.036% of those with the mRNA vaccine, caught the delta variant, and were admitted to the hospital died (Better Health England study), that vaccinated people have a low enough viral load when infected that they're not vectors, and the vast majority of delta variant infections are among the unvaccinated.

If all this is correct, why do those fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine have to wear masks?


Because they're not assholes.


How can you prove somebody's vaccinated? Unless you're a doctor, you can't.

So instead of trusting other people to  be honest or stress out immunocompromised people who can't be vaccinated, fully vaxed people who aren't some kinda asshole still wear masks indoors.

Besides, by now you should have a good reusable one that doesn't fog up your shades
 
2021-07-24 1:40:58 AM  
Same old copy n paste thread I see.
 
2021-07-24 1:41:59 AM  

Spermbot: The latest evidence I've seen about the mRNA vaccines is that (a) they're about 64% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 (delta variant) (Israeli Ministry of Health), only 0.036% of those with the mRNA vaccine, caught the delta variant, and were admitted to the hospital died (Better Health England study), that vaccinated people have a low enough viral load when infected that they're not vectors, and the vast majority of delta variant infections are among the unvaccinated.

If all this is correct, why do those fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine have to wear masks?


Because safe is safe. I know six people right now who have spent the last week down with covid. All six were fully vaccinated. Three with mRNA vaccines. All positive for delta.  Sure, they did not end up in hospital and have no died, but do you really want to have to go through that? This shiat ain't over yet.
 
2021-07-24 1:43:23 AM  

WTP 2: masks are required...

this message has benn brought to you by 3M, can we keep doing this until every employee is a millionaire ?


What an incredibly stupid post.

As if any company cared enough about their average employees to share massive profits with them.
 
2021-07-24 1:50:45 AM  

educated: W_Scarlet: So long as it keeps disproportionately impacting republicans, conservatives, religious nuts, antivaxxers, and stupid people (a lot of overlap here, but allow me the nuance.) it's actually doing more good than harm.

I hope you stupid pig-headed farks all drop dead drowning in your own lungs while you shiat out your own failing organs. I hope it hurts. I hope you suffer. I hope you are afraid in your last moments. I hope you are farking terrified, alone, and in absolute agony.

That's f*cking brutal.

Really? You hope that?

Not just explosive diarrhea for a month?

'Cause, I mean...


tou are the only person I ever farkied in dark gray. I like you.

Now I really wish for a covid variant that is mild on the vaccinated but gives other explosive Diarrhea.

Ita not the variant we deserve, but its the variant we need.
 
2021-07-24 1:58:53 AM  

Fonaibung: My prediction is that in 3 months, we won't have lockdowns or mask mandates anymore; we'll just accept Covid deaths as the cost of Murican freedom, like we do with deaths due to gun violence, heart disease, homelessness, bankruptcy, opioid overdoses...


Well sure, when 45% of the adult population has ready, free access to a vaccine that is beyond amazing at effectiveness and chooses not to take it due to ignorance, stupidity, tribalism, and consumption of disinformation deaths are inevitable.

/Read a UK health report, only 0.68% of those under 50 who were fully vaccinated with Pfizer and tested positive for Delta were admitted to hospital
//Moderns would be essentially identical
///To me that's at acceptable risk level, I've certainly participated in outdoor sports with a higher percentage chance of death, let alone hospitalization
 
2021-07-24 2:43:49 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Spermbot: The latest evidence I've seen about the mRNA vaccines is that (a) they're about 64% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 (delta variant) (Israeli Ministry of Health), only 0.036% of those with the mRNA vaccine, caught the delta variant, and were admitted to the hospital died (Better Health England study), that vaccinated people have a low enough viral load when infected that they're not vectors, and the vast majority of delta variant infections are among the unvaccinated.

If all this is correct, why do those fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine have to wear masks?

Because they're not assholes.


How can you prove somebody's vaccinated? Unless you're a doctor, you can't.


So, you distrust both the physical vaccination cards and digital versions of the same?  I guess that implies that you think that the universities requiring proof of vaccination this fall are all foolish.

So instead of trusting other people to be honest or stress out immunocompromised people who can't be vaccinated, fully vaxxed people who aren't some kinda asshole still wear masks indoors.

What does trusting other people to be honest have to do with it?  If an unmasked plague rat coughs on me, I have a 2/3 chance of nothing happening to me and a +99% chance of getting a mild case of the illness if I contract it.

I get, though, that if I'm immunocompromised or have kids under 12, I don't need the stress of not knowing who's vaxed and who's a domestic terrorist. So, I'll mask up to be kind to those folks.
 
2021-07-24 3:07:46 AM  

Fonaibung: My prediction is that in 3 months, we won't have lockdowns or mask mandates anymore; we'll just accept Covid deaths as the cost of Murican freedom, like we do with deaths due to gun violence, heart disease, homelessness, bankruptcy, opioid overdoses...


I look forward to it obliterating red states and their inbred population that aren't people who got vaxxed and/or wear masks.

Finally something that kills stupid
 
2021-07-24 3:46:40 AM  
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2021-07-24 3:48:01 AM  
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11​0​1/2021.05.05.21256716v1.full

No more going maskless until we get our bivalent boosters and we can curb stomp it for real.

tl;dr - after around 6-8mo, binding titers against delta are frequently too low to prevent infection. One dose of mrna1273.211 raises the titer against all variants hugely, and closes the great bulk of the gap against newer variants
 
2021-07-24 3:53:20 AM  

WTP 2: masks are required...

this message has benn brought to you by 3M, can we keep doing this until every employee is a millionaire ?


Can you stop trying to get people killed to own the libs? Just until clean, smart people can get the disease you encouraged under control?
 
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