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(Slate)   "Would it be gauche to not invite unvaccinated family members to my baby shower?"   (slate.com) divider line
    More: Awkward, WANT, Need, Lebanon, Tennessee, Family, Brad Delson, husband's oldest sister, husband's parents, comfort of other parents  
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191 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 22 Jul 2021 at 7:05 AM (4 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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4 days ago  
We're still in the middle of a pandemic, so fark their feelings.

/And perhaps a few rungs down that ladder, maybe a baby shower shouldn't be the highest priority right now.
 
4 days ago  
Technically yes, but the life of your baby should be a tad more important than etiquette just now.
 
4 days ago  
No. They can fark off.
 
4 days ago  
They have to stay in the bouncy house and you just throw a bag of Krystal's and diet coke in there.
 
4 days ago  
No, it would be smart.
 
4 days ago  
No. Send them a Zoom link.
 
4 days ago  

optikeye: They have to stay in the bouncy house and you just throw a bag of Krystal's and diet coke in there.


And a bag of bees. Avoiding bee stings is a Librul plot.
 
4 days ago  
Not gauche, smart.  It is smart to not invite plague rats to anything.
 
4 days ago  
Ah baby showers. One of the most idiotic things ever conceived
 
4 days ago  
There are now three general classes of people -

1. Those who have been vaccinated. These are normal people who want to live in a society.

2. Those who cannot be vaccinated, either due to a medical condition or who have been legitimately unable to be vaccinated (very uncommon in the US now, but not everyone has had the access to vaccines that we have). These are also normal people who want to live in a society and deserve consideration for their health and the health of others, but may need to be excluded from certain activities.

3. Assholes who have had the opportunity to get vaccinated, but refuse for non-medical reasons. These people are assholes. They merit no consideration. They genuinely don't care if they spread a potentially fatal disease to others. Cutting them out of your life benefits everyone.
 
4 days ago  
The vaccine works and is freely available.  Should be nothing to worry about.
 
4 days ago  
I'm down to one unvaxxed family  member. We've taken to treating him like Typhoid Mary. Eventually he will come around, as he's not a Trumper, not on social media, not a Fox News guy, and is not into Q or conspiracies. I hope he figures it out before the ICU.

But he is not invited to anything, nor will we go see him, until he rolls up his sleeve.

/sucks for his wife (vaccinated) and kid (U12)
// but necessary
///
 
4 days ago  
After months of bullshiat we finally have gotten all of the family except for my wife's sister's kids (one has already had covid and is too young for the vaccine and the other can't get her father's permission and isn't willing to just sneak out and get the shots) to get vaccinated, so we are finally taking the baby to Tennessee to meet his vaccinated 87 year old great grandfather and fellow four month old cousin who was born the day after he was.

Then yesterday my mother in law called and apparently this thing which was supposed to involve vaccinated adults and two babies has become like a mini-reunion and more people are invited and we're having to run around asking everyone we know is showing up whether they are vaccinated and whether they are coming and if the answer is no followed by yes we're just not going. I'm sure we're going to be the assholes when that inevitably happens though.

I don't know why they think we might suddenly be casual about this when we had an entire secret pregnancy and birth already because we didn't want any Tennessee plague rats showing up.
 
4 days ago  

lifeslammer: Ah baby showers. One of the most idiotic things ever conceived


It's a tribal welfare event with cake.  Unemployment checks don't come with cake.  I kind of have to side with the silly party.

Announcing the genetic traits of the unborn with pyrotechnics, on the other hand, should probably leave that other hand with a few missing fingers.
 
4 days ago  
Fark those plague rats.  Don't invite them and wtf cares what they think?  Just don't ask them for any presents and there's no harm done.
 
4 days ago  
It's your baby shower, do whatever the fark you want.  They'll get over it eventually or you'll have to explain repeatedly that they were risking spreading Covid to your kids.  It's going to be such a common story in the coming years no one is going to bat an eye at it.
 
4 days ago  
Compromise. Tell them they are welcome as long as they show up with a negative covid test taken no more than 48 hours before the event. You get to avoid trying to convince idiots to get vaccinated, and they get to remain idiots.
 
4 days ago  
The "Have the baby shower outside" advice from Slate is BULLshiat.
Strait bullshiat. Didn't the entire Trump administration catch COVID at an outdoor event? And now we have even more transmissible variants? That's bad advice and I am surprised the publisher let them get away with it. Liability!
 
4 days ago  
How gauche would it be to bury your newborn? Or for the child to have lifelong disabilities?

BTW, what does "gauche" mean compared to someone menacing death and lifelong disability?
 
4 days ago  
I think it's gauche for them to endanger a pregnant woman for no good reason, so no.  Don't feel bad.  You don't have to write "no machetes, please" on your invitation because it's assumed that your guests wont' weaponize themselves in any way.  I see no difference.
 
4 days ago  
Safety always trumps etiquette.

I have some anti-vaxxer relatives, and regardless of their relation, I would absolutely never invite them to my home or to any place where I (or my child) would be present.
 
4 days ago  

lifeslammer: Ah baby showers. One of the most idiotic things ever conceived


People like ceremonies to celebrate things.  We're social primates.  Baby showers are no dumber than birthday parties, and probably less so.
 
4 days ago  
You know what's gauche?  Baby showers.  Get the fark out of here.  You have nine months to announce your pregnancy, and it's obvious.  What was it you needed again, besides more attention?
 
4 days ago  

cryinoutloud: You know what's gauche?  Baby showers.  Get the fark out of here.  You have nine months to announce your pregnancy, and it's obvious.  What was it you needed again, besides more attention?


A few reasons.  People bring gifts.  In addition, many people are happy to be having a child and many people are happy to see that person happy and want to celebrate that happiness with them.  I know this seems alien.
 
4 days ago  

cryinoutloud: You know what's gauche?  Baby showers.  Get the fark out of here.  You have nine months to announce your pregnancy, and it's obvious.  What was it you needed again, besides more attention?


Yeah, god forbid people actually celebrate joyous events in their lives with friends and family. And weddings? Those are even worse. Only attention whores need to demonstrate they're capable of mating in front of a crowd. Funerals are for people so desperate that they demand being the center of attention at a party they won't even enjoy. How pitiful.

In an ideal world, each of us would stay in a cave and never leave except for work. Oh wait, people who go into the office only do so for an audience. Back to the cave.
 
4 days ago  
Ha! We just had this same discussion last night. The baby shower is in September.

F$ck the ones that aren't vaccinated. They didn't get invited.
 
4 days ago  
"Dear Dumbasses,

Be vaccinated or be nothing, socially and most likely literally.

Sincerely,
We're in a God Damned Pandemic"
 
4 days ago  
Invite them but insist they wear a mask and social distance.

Though I don't know why you'd care.  If you are vaccinated, and everyone else is, the risk to you or anyone else who is vaccinated from them is very remote.

Can you still get COVID?  Yes.

But your risk goes way down, and instead of having a roughly 1 in 100 chance of dying from it, it's about 1 in a million chance.
 
4 days ago  

JerseyTim: No. Send them a Zoom link.


Yep!  This is what I did for my mom for my daughter's birthday.  Everyone else in attendance was either fully vaccinated or partially vaccinated and wearing masks.
 
4 days ago  
Do you bring kids (those under 12) to the party?  If not, go ahead and have maximal body/air contact between everybody.

Ok, maybe you might consider some of them friends and not want to be indirectly responsible for their deaths, but I have a hard time caring at this point.

/sorry, but I stopped wearing my mask at all about a month after getting the shot
//sorry more for the immunocompromised
///but all we can do for them is to get the rest dead or (somewhat) immune via herd immunity.  Only several million more deaths to go for that way (assuming they never wise up and get shot).
 
4 days ago  

yet_another_wumpus: Do you bring kids (those under 12) to the party?  If not, go ahead and have maximal body/air contact between everybody.

Ok, maybe you might consider some of them friends and not want to be indirectly responsible for their deaths, but I have a hard time caring at this point.

/sorry, but I stopped wearing my mask at all about a month after getting the shot
//sorry more for the immunocompromised
///but all we can do for them is to get the rest dead or (somewhat) immune via herd immunity.  Only several million more deaths to go for that way (assuming they never wise up and get shot).


Pregnant women can occasionally have outlandish fears of things that can harm the baby, but I'm not going to contest any fears about a virus causing birth defects or miscarriage despite vaccination.
 
4 days ago  

lifeslammer: Ah baby showers. One of the most idiotic things ever conceived


You sound not poor.
 
4 days ago  

lifeslammer: Ah baby showers. One of the most idiotic things ever conceived


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