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(MSNBC)   Congress quietly passed the Covid-19 Consumer Protection Act, which makes spreading lies and misinformation about vaccines, treatments, and mitigation a crime. Which is why this person filed a complaint with the FTC about FOX News' ongoing Covid BS   (msnbc.com) divider line
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2021-07-21 12:37:34 PM  
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2021-07-21 1:10:54 PM  
Maybe this is why Hannity, F&F, and others have suddenly changed their tunes and are now fervently pro-vaccination on every segment?

Either that, or their advertising folks pointed out that Delta Variant was killing off their core demographic in increasingly larger numbers, and that's bad for business..

Either way, they don't give two shiats about actual human lives, unless that life counts toward a revenue stream, or reduction thereof due to being sued for their past bullshiat.
 
2021-07-21 2:46:14 PM  
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2021-07-21 4:08:09 PM  

markie_farkie: Maybe this is why Hannity, F&F, and others have suddenly changed their tunes and are now fervently pro-vaccination on every segment?


Maybe so.

When you scare the lawyers at a large corporation you get changes.
 
2021-07-21 5:40:11 PM  
So you are saying that Trump and all his cronies are going to pay for what they have done? No? It does not count for government officials, just peasants?
 
2021-07-21 5:42:11 PM  
Do Facebook next.
 
2021-07-21 5:42:25 PM  

lectos: So you are saying that Trump and all his cronies are going to pay for what they have done? No? It does not count for government officials, just peasants?


I assume that's a rhetorical question
 
2021-07-21 5:42:36 PM  

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I too eat my popcorn one kernel at a time. Takes me 3 consecutive movies to get through a large.
 
2021-07-21 5:43:36 PM  

Yeast No 7: Do Facebook next.


I have a feeling we'll see Dumpus in prison before we see StateBook facing any sort of accountability.
 
2021-07-21 5:43:58 PM  
Well then, I ll sue fox news, OAN and newsmax next.
 
2021-07-21 5:45:36 PM  
Hmmm, does this apply to websites too?
 
2021-07-21 5:45:57 PM  
Probably explains why the conservative information loop has been getting increasingly pro-vaccine this week...
 
2021-07-21 5:47:25 PM  

Yeast No 7: Do Facebook next.


230 might give them some shielding from charges, but forcing them to have to respond to a few hundred thousand FTC case requests will help salt the fields a little.
 
2021-07-21 5:48:20 PM  
Hmmmm...

I wonder who signed that into Law?
 
2021-07-21 5:48:42 PM  
How'd it ever pass The Senate?
 
2021-07-21 5:48:43 PM  
How in the world did that law get through the Senate and Trump?
 
2021-07-21 5:49:42 PM  

Kris_Romm: How'd it ever pass The Senate?


**shakes tiny fist**
 
2021-07-21 5:49:48 PM  

king of vegas: How in the world did that law get through the Senate and Trump?


How fast did he want companies to make that vaccine?
 
2021-07-21 5:52:30 PM  
Hopefully those who are spreading misinformation will face charges and fines and this isn't just lip service to scare the fearmongers to stop their bullshiat
 
2021-07-21 5:52:51 PM  

Kris_Romm: How'd it ever pass The Senate?


It was in a huge Appropriations Bill.
 
2021-07-21 5:53:04 PM  
I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.
 
2021-07-21 5:53:38 PM  

Jeff5: Kris_Romm: How'd it ever pass The Senate?

It was in a huge Appropriations Bill.


How appropriate.
 
2021-07-21 5:53:42 PM  

RasIanI: Probably explains why the conservative information loop has been getting increasingly pro-vaccine this week...


Is even Tuckerhead Carlson changing his tune yet?
 
2021-07-21 5:54:59 PM  
I'm very surprised that this got passed under Trump (Dec 2020). I wonder what they told him it was for when he signed it.

Good luck with your lawsuit, guy. Though I wish people would use the term disinformation instead of misinformation--it's not a whoopsie, it's deliberate and pervasive lies and propaganda that are crafted with the intent to cause harm or disruptions. Among those intended harms, as we've discussed on Fark, is the erosion of people's trust in government, the media, and science. Worse still, it deliberately farks with people's ability to parse reality:

"The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth and truth be defamed as a lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world-and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end-is being destroyed." - Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism
 
2021-07-21 5:57:30 PM  
better find tucker carlson's "no reasonable person would believe this shiat" lawyer
 
2021-07-21 5:57:48 PM  
Is this why everyone but the dimmest bulbs (Margarine Taint and Booger Boy) are suddenly pivoting to reality?

Hoooooooooolllllleeeeeeeyyyy shiat.
 
2021-07-21 5:59:03 PM  

markie_farkie: Maybe this is why Hannity, F&F, and others have suddenly changed their tunes and are now fervently pro-vaccination on every segment?

Either that, or their advertising folks pointed out that Delta Variant was killing off their core demographic in increasingly larger numbers, and that's bad for business..

Either way, they don't give two shiats about actual human lives, unless that life counts toward a revenue stream, or reduction thereof due to being sued for their past bullshiat.


Could be both.
 
2021-07-21 6:02:25 PM  
shiat.  We must be pretty f*cked.
 
2021-07-21 6:06:31 PM  

NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.


Fox shouldnt be able to call itself news.
 
2021-07-21 6:07:19 PM  

NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.


If you put a bunch of signs up saying "No tigers in this park, go ahead and play", and you know there are tigers in that park, when a bunch of kids get eaten shouldn't you be held somewhat responsible?  You can't just point at the signs and claim free speech lets you off the hook.  Ignoring the danger would be one thing, but actively lying to hide the danger knowing somebody will get hurt or killed isn't simply exercising free speech any more than leaving a loaded gun on the floor of a daycare is exercising your 2nd Amendment right.
 
2021-07-21 6:09:33 PM  

markie_farkie: Maybe this is why Hannity, F&F, and others have suddenly changed their tunes and are now fervently pro-vaccination on every segment?

Either that, or their advertising folks pointed out that Delta Variant was killing off their core demographic in increasingly larger numbers, and that's bad for business..

Either way, they don't give two shiats about actual human lives, unless that life counts toward a revenue stream, or reduction thereof due to being sued for their past bullshiat.


Stonk market drops 700+ points, blame is on covid fears, nearly every GQPer is now touting vaccines, can't explain that.
 
2021-07-21 6:11:14 PM  

Aquapope: NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.

If you put a bunch of signs up saying "No tigers in this park, go ahead and play", and you know there are tigers in that park, when a bunch of kids get eaten shouldn't you be held somewhat responsible?  You can't just point at the signs and claim free speech lets you off the hook.  Ignoring the danger would be one thing, but actively lying to hide the danger knowing somebody will get hurt or killed isn't simply exercising free speech any more than leaving a loaded gun on the floor of a daycare is exercising your 2nd Amendment right.


I ain't saying it's right. I'm just saying that I'm expecting any legal challenges to their lying to be thrown out like every other time in the past.
 
2021-07-21 6:11:54 PM  

NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.


Maybe speech that causes harm and is deliberately false shouldn't be protected by the first amendment.
 
2021-07-21 6:14:35 PM  

NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.


I don't see that working this time. I don't think judges find dead bodies piling up all over the country entertaining at all.

The big hitch is cable but this it the FTC and not the FCC. We'll have to see what the courts say about that part.
 
2021-07-21 6:14:59 PM  

Kris_Romm: How'd it ever pass The Senate?


Flomax?
 
2021-07-21 6:15:11 PM  
Fox has focused its ire on Fauci these days. Their crazy viewers are convinced he personally  oversaw the development and spread of the virus and became a gazillionaire in the process. They are unhinged. I hope Dr Fauci has a good security detail.
 
2021-07-21 6:16:06 PM  

lectos: So you are saying that Trump and all his cronies are going to pay for what they have done? No? It does not count for government officials, just peasants?


Unfortunately, no.  Trump may have faced consequences before being elected POTUS.  Not now.  McConnell (and actually back to Gingrich and even before) have made the GOP into a lock-step machine.  It is not that they want to defend Trump - it is that doing otherwise admits a flaw in their machine.  They have no choice else it is possible their machine no longer works.  Thus why they refuse an investigation into 1/6.  (If 1/6 had been successful, it is possible they could have established their regime and then ousted Trump later as someone less than worthy.)

McConnell had the GOP vote against the second impeachment but stated 1/6 was his fault.  Note that he did not condemn Trump for it.

It needs to be knocked into Dems' heads.  There is no bipartisanship (except for a minuscule few).  The current GOP is not about compromise.  They know EXACTLY what they want to do.  They are playing the game to win.  Eliminate the filibuster, pass the Voters' Rights Act and let the chips fall where they may.
 
2021-07-21 6:17:06 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: Is this why everyone but the dimmest bulbs (Margarine Taint and Booger Boy) are suddenly pivoting to reality?

Hoooooooooolllllleeeeeeeyyyy shiat.


I think it was more the 700+ stonk market drop that was blamed on covid. Money talks to them.
 
2021-07-21 6:17:08 PM  

nytmare: NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.

Maybe speech that causes harm and is deliberately false shouldn't be protected by the first amendment.


Like it or not, the First Amendment allows people to lie.

The only thing that will stop Fox News is if cable companies would stop forcing everybody to pay for it with every cable package.
 
2021-07-21 6:18:54 PM  

NeoCortex42: nytmare: NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.

Maybe speech that causes harm and is deliberately false shouldn't be protected by the first amendment.

Like it or not, the First Amendment allows people to lie.


Perjury is unconstitutional! Muh rights!
 
2021-07-21 6:26:26 PM  
This must mean something huge is about to drop. I'm thinking by Friday
 
2021-07-21 6:33:16 PM  
Looks like this law is more like "you can't sell quack Covid cures" law than a more broad, and probably unconstitutional, "you can't say anything wrong about Covid" law.
 
2021-07-21 6:37:53 PM  

NeoCortex42: Like it or not, the First Amendment allows people to lie.


Sometimes.  Not always.  Many false statements of facts are actionable and it is the courts who draw the line and have changed that line many times during our short history.  There is no hur dur I can lie all I want nanna nanna 1A motherfarker!
 
2021-07-21 6:39:44 PM  

NeoCortex42: Aquapope: NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.

If you put a bunch of signs up saying "No tigers in this park, go ahead and play", and you know there are tigers in that park, when a bunch of kids get eaten shouldn't you be held somewhat responsible?  You can't just point at the signs and claim free speech lets you off the hook.  Ignoring the danger would be one thing, but actively lying to hide the danger knowing somebody will get hurt or killed isn't simply exercising free speech any more than leaving a loaded gun on the floor of a daycare is exercising your 2nd Amendment right.

I ain't saying it's right. I'm just saying that I'm expecting any legal challenges to their lying to be thrown out like every other time in the past.


Oh, I know it's not you saying that.  It's just that I don't think this comes down to 1st Amendment except in the minds of the victim caste.  I think most judges know that you can't put somebody in mortal danger through lying and call it protected speech.  At least, I hope it's not, and I hope judges know that.
 
2021-07-21 6:43:34 PM  

Yeast No 7: Do Facebook next.


Absolutely.

/you probably thought this was some sort of pwning the libs
//it isn't
 
2021-07-21 6:44:37 PM  

Kris_Romm: How'd it ever pass The Senate?


Curious about that myself.  Mitch sundowning now?
 
2021-07-21 6:44:40 PM  

NeoCortex42: nytmare: NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.

Maybe speech that causes harm and is deliberately false shouldn't be protected by the first amendment.

Like it or not, the First Amendment allows people to lie.

The only thing that will stop Fox News is if cable companies would stop forcing everybody to pay for it with every cable package.


Cannot be repeated enough.
 
2021-07-21 6:44:59 PM  
Vaccines turns you furry.

Come get me.
 
2021-07-21 6:45:49 PM  

Yeast No 7: Do Facebook next.


Facebook would seem to be a "person, partnership, or corporation".

What "deceptive act or practice" has Facebook -- as opposed to Facebook users -- engaged in?
 
2021-07-21 6:46:23 PM  

NeoCortex42: nytmare: NeoCortex42: I will be amazed if it holds up to a court challenge. Fox will argue that their hosts are "entertainment" again and are protected by free speech.

Maybe speech that causes harm and is deliberately false shouldn't be protected by the first amendment.

Like it or not, the First Amendment allows people to lie.

The only thing that will stop Fox News is if cable companies would stop forcing everybody to pay for it with every cable package.


Commercial speech has always been regulated in the U.S., and it is quite Constitutional to do so.

/which thwarts my idea of labelling tainted pork "Grade A beef" and selling it to Red state school systems
 
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