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(OMG Ubuntu)   The Gnome team releases version 40 of the Nautilus file manager. This update adds the ability to sort files by creation date (a feature the Gnome team removed several years ago)   (omgubuntu.co.uk) divider line
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2021-07-21 1:45:52 PM  
The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.
 
2021-07-21 2:52:29 PM  
So where did this imfo come from?

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The GNOME office, of course.
 
2021-07-21 2:59:21 PM  

Ivo Shandor: The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.


Do you know which commonly used file systems do not have it?
 
2021-07-21 3:09:35 PM  
Im sure this matters to .0000000000000000001% of fark users
 
2021-07-21 3:15:54 PM  

talkertopc: Ivo Shandor: The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.

Do you know which commonly used file systems do not have it?


NFSv3 and ext3, for example.
 
2021-07-21 3:19:43 PM  

Ivo Shandor: The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.


What a shiatty standard then.
 
2021-07-21 3:25:40 PM  

Brynden Rivers: Ivo Shandor: The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.

What a shiatty standard then.


It's an old standard. Also, I can't think of any time when I've specifically needed to have a file's creation date in the inode. Any time it matters, I probably want a full revision history (like a 'git' changelog) rather than just the date.
 
2021-07-21 3:31:16 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Brynden Rivers: Ivo Shandor: The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.

What a shiatty standard then.

It's an old standard. Also, I can't think of any time when I've specifically needed to have a file's creation date in the inode. Any time it matters, I probably want a full revision history (like a 'git' changelog) rather than just the date.


Downloads, photos, documents, etc.  We're talking about Ubuntu, which is about as close to "average user" that Linux goes
 
2021-07-21 3:53:30 PM  

bhcompy: Ivo Shandor: Brynden Rivers: Ivo Shandor: The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.

What a shiatty standard then.

It's an old standard. Also, I can't think of any time when I've specifically needed to have a file's creation date in the inode. Any time it matters, I probably want a full revision history (like a 'git' changelog) rather than just the date.

Downloads, photos, documents, etc.  We're talking about Ubuntu, which is about as close to "average user" that Linux goes


For downloads the last-modified time will be the same as the creation time. Photos too, unless you've edited them.
 
2021-07-21 7:02:00 PM  
Last modified in Nautilus works just fine.
 
2021-07-21 8:53:46 PM  

Ivo Shandor: bhcompy: Ivo Shandor: Brynden Rivers: Ivo Shandor: The POSIX standard doesn't include "creation time" in a file's inode, so this is only possible if you use a filesystem which has that field or which allows you to store it as an extended attribute.

What a shiatty standard then.

It's an old standard. Also, I can't think of any time when I've specifically needed to have a file's creation date in the inode. Any time it matters, I probably want a full revision history (like a 'git' changelog) rather than just the date.

Downloads, photos, documents, etc.  We're talking about Ubuntu, which is about as close to "average user" that Linux goes

For downloads the last-modified time will be the same as the creation time. Photos too, unless you've edited them.


You're maybe just not imaginative enough to realize when it might be helpful.  I am constantly sorting by one, Windows remembers the setting, then I need the other in a different directory (sorry, folder).  If you live without it, that may be why you don't think of ways to use it.  Or the git comment means you don't do the kinds of things where it might be helpful.

Your turn to make fun of me for not understand how it can "relay 'more accurate' file transfer and copy estimates; and improves tab completion in the location entry bar".
 
2021-07-22 11:15:51 AM  
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