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(BBC-US)   Liverpool stripped of Unesco World Heritage status. Leaders say this is NOT fab, they are proud of their records, and vow to beat the ruling   (bbc.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, World Heritage Site, World Heritage site, Former UNESCO World Heritage Sites, heritage status, better condition, committee chairman Tian Xuejun, Dresden, public realm  
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2021-07-21 12:16:43 PM  
So you're saying this bugs them? That they don't think it will fly? That it's a gi-ant problem?

Or more that the committee members need help, but that with a little help from their friends, they'll reach the end of this long and winding road?
 
2021-07-21 12:42:35 PM  
They'll never walk alone
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2021-07-21 12:45:09 PM  
UNESCO or anything UN for that matter is rubbish.
 
2021-07-21 12:59:06 PM  

American-Irish eyes: UNESCO or anything UN for that matter is rubbish.


Nothing like the greatest hits, now do the one about fluoride in drinking water
 
2021-07-21 1:07:44 PM  

phaseolus: American-Irish eyes: UNESCO or anything UN for that matter is rubbish.

Nothing like the greatest hits, now do the one about fluoride in drinking water


The hell you going on about?  What does that have to do with anything?
 
2021-07-21 1:16:22 PM  
I don't get it.  It's 3 buildings.   Don't get me wrong.... they're very pretty.  But I dunno, seems sort of arbitrary as to what is a "world heritage site".
 
2021-07-21 1:17:21 PM  
"at a meeting in China."

This tells you all you need to know about who actually controls the U.N. now.

Shame we can't get THEM to pay the lions share.
 
2021-07-21 1:29:42 PM  

SirEattonHogg: I don't get it.  It's 3 buildings.   Don't get me wrong.... they're very pretty.  But I dunno, seems sort of arbitrary as to what is a "world heritage site".


It's weird because in a lot of cases like this it is, but others make sense. The first thing I think about when I hear this is that people don't realize how little you can do to a site once it's a WHS. That leads to the next question, why would you want an active waterfront to be a WHS?
 
2021-07-21 1:36:14 PM  

FriarReb98: SirEattonHogg: I don't get it.  It's 3 buildings.   Don't get me wrong.... they're very pretty.  But I dunno, seems sort of arbitrary as to what is a "world heritage site".

It's weird because in a lot of cases like this it is, but others make sense. The first thing I think about when I hear this is that people don't realize how little you can do to a site once it's a WHS. That leads to the next question, why would you want an active waterfront to be a WHS?


Yeah, the complaint seems to be...you fixed up the place and made it nice and modern, so it's no longer old and antique-y, so off it goes.

Which is my general complaint for declaring buildings as any sort of "historical monuments" in the first place.  This frequently means they can't be modernized or updated, which frequently means they are abandoned and left to rot, which frequently means they get burned down by a homeless person's cooking fire.
 
2021-07-21 2:22:07 PM  

Geotpf: Yeah, the complaint seems to be...you fixed up the place and made it nice and modern, so it's no longer old and antique-y, so off it goes.



This is the answer, literally, and rightfully so.
 
2021-07-21 3:06:10 PM  
Unesco had said that the developments, including the planned new Everton FC stadium, had resulted in a "serious deterioration" of the historic site.

The Toffees ruin everything
 
2021-07-21 4:51:09 PM  

Geotpf: FriarReb98: SirEattonHogg: I don't get it.  It's 3 buildings.   Don't get me wrong.... they're very pretty.  But I dunno, seems sort of arbitrary as to what is a "world heritage site".

It's weird because in a lot of cases like this it is, but others make sense. The first thing I think about when I hear this is that people don't realize how little you can do to a site once it's a WHS. That leads to the next question, why would you want an active waterfront to be a WHS?

Yeah, the complaint seems to be...you fixed up the place and made it nice and modern, so it's no longer old and antique-y, so off it goes.

Which is my general complaint for declaring buildings as any sort of "historical monuments" in the first place.  This frequently means they can't be modernized or updated, which frequently means they are abandoned and left to rot, which frequently means they get burned down by a homeless person's cooking fire.


Well, maintaining historical buildings does have some value. We can visit a place that was once somehow meaningful in history and it helps you to understand people's mindsets and why certain events happened. It's great for tourism and in any event, once something is gone, it's gone. We can rebuild a replica but it's not the real thing.

On the other hand, it's a balancing act. You can't have everything be a historical monument because it becomes extremely burdensome. Old buildings are expensive to maintain and are often not very functional.

This leads indirectly to the growth of the suburbs - can't redevelop downtown and don't like the buildings as they are? Build something the way you like it, for cheaper, somewhere else!  And then we get suburban sprawl.

It seems that many of the people who are all about historic preservation also dislike seeing suburban sprawl. They need to balance their priorities.
 
2021-07-22 3:39:57 AM  
So blame Everton?
 
2021-07-22 12:51:48 PM  

zgrizz: "at a meeting in China."

This tells you all you need to know about who actually controls the U.N. now.

Shame we can't get THEM to pay the lions share.


Secret ballot at a meeting in China. It doesn't really mean they control the U.N., but they were willing to spend some political capital on this one. On the other hand, would Liverpool even be a global site if the U.K. hadn't had outsized influence? Not sure it ever deserved it. Local heritage is one thing but global is a different magnitude.
 
2021-07-22 2:15:51 PM  

zgrizz: "at a meeting in China."

This tells you all you need to know about who actually controls the U.N. now.

Shame we can't get THEM to pay the lions share.


So now the UN is the Evil Black Helicopter New World Order Agenda 21 Illuminati Trilateral Commission Bilderberg Group Conspiracy because it sends Strongly Worded Letters?
 
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