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(CNN)   Self-driving cars step up to the challenge of NYC streets. "Hey, I'm drivin' here"   (edition.cnn.com) divider line
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316 clicks; posted to Business » on 21 Jul 2021 at 4:10 AM (11 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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TWX
2021-07-20 10:00:59 PM  
Call me when they work in greater Boston.
 
2021-07-21 5:28:12 AM  
That's great. When will we see flying cars?
 
2021-07-21 7:02:58 AM  
Watching closely to see what happens when a FOREIGN autodriving car has an accident in a US metropolis. Although Israel hardly counts as foreign in NYC. Somehow the NHTSA does not even care. Is it just so much of a thing now with Apple, Google, Tesla and others that nobody dares say anything?

And is anybody going to even wonder why NYC and not Tel Aviv or a country where life is cheap? Or am I missing something? I would just think you would want to choose someplace where, if you kill someone, it is going to just cost like 30 goats or something. After about 9000 goats get traded, you move up to, I don't know, Boise or Des Moines or something.
 
2021-07-21 7:52:06 AM  
At what point do we decide that the tech, being only "good enough", is better than keeping the bottom 50% of drivers in this country behind the wheel. There are a LOT of dogshiat drivers in this country.
 
TWX
2021-07-21 9:16:49 AM  

2fardownthread: Watching closely to see what happens when a FOREIGN autodriving car has an accident in a US metropolis.


This already happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_o​f​_Elaine_Herzberg

And it has been a gigantic clusterfark.
 
2021-07-21 10:56:51 AM  

Nick Nostril: At what point do we decide that the tech, being only "good enough", is better than keeping the bottom 50% of drivers in this country behind the wheel. There are a LOT of dogshiat drivers in this country.


This.

I trust a computer more than I trust the average human driver, who is probably eating, drinking, drinking alcohol, smoking, smoking weed, putting on makeup, putting on clothing, taking off clothing, half asleep, fully asleep, playing with the stereo, playing with the nav system, playing with their cell phone, playing with themselves, having a coughing fit, having a stroke, having a heart attack, yelling at other drivers, yelling at the kids in the back seat, whistling at pretty girls walking down the street, and/or is just a farking idiot.
 
2021-07-21 1:53:38 PM  

Nick Nostril: At what point do we decide that the tech, being only "good enough", is better than keeping the bottom 50% of drivers in this country behind the wheel. There are a LOT of dogshiat drivers in this country.


Frankly, from what I've been reading, the tech is still worse than the majority of drivers, especially regarding edge cases where a human brain is much better at handling than AI. Imagine a work zone, or a double-parked car, a delivery truck blocking the center turn lane, etc. etc. Things that every driver faces and negotiates constantly that autonomous cars may or may not be able to negotiate consistently. I've not seen much video showing how autonomous cars deal with those things.
 
2021-07-21 3:29:07 PM  

TotallyHeadless: Nick Nostril: At what point do we decide that the tech, being only "good enough", is better than keeping the bottom 50% of drivers in this country behind the wheel. There are a LOT of dogshiat drivers in this country.

Frankly, from what I've been reading, the tech is still worse than the majority of drivers..


On the other hand, I've yet to see video of an autonomous car cut across all lanes of traffic to exit, which is sadly the norm around here over the last couple of years.

/plan ahead, people
//the stripes across the triangle aren't "aim here" lines
///slashies
 
2021-07-21 4:50:11 PM  

TotallyHeadless: Nick Nostril: At what point do we decide that the tech, being only "good enough", is better than keeping the bottom 50% of drivers in this country behind the wheel. There are a LOT of dogshiat drivers in this country.

Frankly, from what I've been reading, the tech is still worse than the majority of drivers, especially regarding edge cases where a human brain is much better at handling than AI. Imagine a work zone, or a double-parked car, a delivery truck blocking the center turn lane, etc. etc. Things that every driver faces and negotiates constantly that autonomous cars may or may not be able to negotiate consistently. I've not seen much video showing how autonomous cars deal with those things.


AVs may not necessarily navigate well around "edge cases", but they won't kill people in such cases. They'll stop and wait it out until a clearing occurs.

Basically, AVs will not hit things under normal conditions. You literally have to throw yourself in front of the vehicle in the split second before in order to get hit.
 
2021-07-22 2:40:56 AM  
Interestingly enough, I searched on youtube and found this from a couple of months ago:

Waymo Self Driving Taxi Fumbles In Construction Zone, Blocks Traffic | JJRicks Rides With Waymo #54
Youtube zdKCQKBvH-A
 
2021-07-22 3:15:35 PM  

Geotpf: Nick Nostril: At what point do we decide that the tech, being only "good enough", is better than keeping the bottom 50% of drivers in this country behind the wheel. There are a LOT of dogshiat drivers in this country.

This.

I trust a computer more than I trust the average human driver, who is probably eating, drinking, drinking alcohol, smoking, smoking weed, putting on makeup, putting on clothing, taking off clothing, half asleep, fully asleep, playing with the stereo, playing with the nav system, playing with their cell phone, playing with themselves, having a coughing fit, having a stroke, having a heart attack, yelling at other drivers, yelling at the kids in the back seat, whistling at pretty girls walking down the street, and/or is just a farking idiot.


What about over-confident, enraged drivers?

Ones who are seething with rage, drives 20mph over the speed limit, does dangerous maneuvers to show his rage, tail-gates to show his rage, drives like their wife is giving birth in the back seat, drives needlessly aggressively and/or is just a raging asshole.

My commute is 1.5 miles to an office park and yet I encounter like one every other day. There was one time the guy worked in the next office building and parked like 25 ft from me.
 
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