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(DNA India)   Much like his soccer team, Richard Branson will have to settle for second place, as Neil deGrasse Tyson explains that no, he did not go to space   (dnaindia.com) divider line
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2021-07-20 9:01:27 AM  
So,... Virgin Galactic is still a virgin?
 
2021-07-20 9:01:48 AM  
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2021-07-20 9:03:09 AM  

OkieDookie: So,... Virgin Galactic is still a virgin?


My dad has a story about when two of my sisters were roughly 15 and 12, and were spending a summer in London or Paris or somewhere in Europe. He told them "You're flying over on Virgin Airlines, I expect you to come back the same way."
 
2021-07-20 9:09:03 AM  

RminusQ: OkieDookie: So,... Virgin Galactic is still a virgin?

My dad has a story about when two of my sisters were roughly 15 and 12, and were spending a summer in London or Paris or somewhere in Europe. He told them "You're flying over on Virgin Airlines, I expect you to come back the same way."


Growing up on St. Thomas in the US Virgin Islands and visiting my mother during Christmas school break, sometimes people would ask where I was from because of my dark tan in the middle of New England winter. I would say, "The Virgin Islands" and sometimes a girl would get smart and ask, "Are you a virgin too?" I had the perfect answer for that, "Yes I am. Can you help me with that?"
 
2021-07-20 9:11:44 AM  
Can Neil deGrasse Tyson just like...fark off?  He's turned into nothing but the physical manifestation of the "but ackshually" meme.
 
2021-07-20 9:22:56 AM  
I have to agree with Neil... I was hoping space would keep the billionaires but how can it do that if they keep coming back to Earth safely? Not high enough that's how. Try harder Richard.
 
2021-07-20 9:34:50 AM  
Conspiracy theory (the fun kind, where it doesn't really matter, just like how these used to be before they became threats to society): Branson and Bezos made an agreement to protect both their brands: Branson was "first," but it doesn't count unless you want his venture to succeed. Bezos was "first" because he'll go higher and therefore meets the requirements. Both get to claim to be the first and jerk themselves off.

Then Elon's going to step in the ring and his sycophants will blow their loads and be so obnoxious no one will want to talk about it.
 
2021-07-20 9:37:57 AM  

Fisty Bum: Can Neil deGrasse Tyson just like...fark off?  He's turned into nothing but the physical manifestation of the "but ackshually" meme.


They all become like that eventually. The seeker becomes the guru becomes the charlatan. Haha. I do admit it is frustrating watching it happen.
 
2021-07-20 9:45:03 AM  
Aw, what does he know.
 
2021-07-20 9:48:28 AM  
I am not too interested in the whole billionaires in space thing, but there are two related ... themes that might "take off" because of this.

1. Humanity needs to get over it and get busy.
Let's get the climbing Mt. Everest over with and admit that a few scientists doing experiments and living in space is pretty well played out. It is time to start doing something. We should be making something bigger or move things out of LEO. Time to send up some engineers to start putting the tinkertoys together. I don't want to die watching Siegfried and Roy in space or some Evel Knievel knockoff.

2. So where is space anyway?
Rather than thinking that there is some line that someone needs to cross, it is time to admit that getting almost all the way into LEO is still pretty damn high. If everything that goes up is just going to come crashing down anyway, maybe we are just fooling ourselves. Or maybe somebody should be working on a skyhook to take things out of "almost space" and vault it into "space". That would make every Branson into a Bezos, or whatever.

Think big!
 
2021-07-20 10:00:24 AM  
FTFA: "A prodigy of legendary space scientist Carl Sagar..."

Ah, yes. Carl "Sagar", the legendary space scientist.
 
2021-07-20 10:21:55 AM  

Fisty Bum: Can Neil deGrasse Tyson just like...fark off?  He's turned into nothing but the physical manifestation of the "but ackshually" meme.


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2021-07-20 10:24:04 AM  

The Smails Kid: FTFA: "A prodigy of legendary space scientist Carl Sagar..."

Ah, yes. Carl "Sagar", the legendary space scientist.


And great lead singer
 
2021-07-20 10:26:12 AM  
I used to be a NdGT fan.


/not a Mitch Hedberg joke.
 
2021-07-20 10:29:32 AM  

Fisty Bum: Can Neil deGrasse Tyson just like...fark off?  He's turned into nothing but the physical manifestation of the "but ackshually" meme.


i kinda agree. Like with Titanic he complained that the stars would not look like that at that time of year at that point  on the globe that year. You are one of maybe a dozen people who would notice that or even know that. Everyone else is paying attention to the story, you are looking at the CGI stars.
 
2021-07-20 10:33:36 AM  
So is space travel going to be the new "climbing the Mt. Everest"? Few wealthy individuals die a gruesome death every year doing something trivial and pointless.
 
2021-07-20 10:41:02 AM  

Rattrap007: Fisty Bum: Can Neil deGrasse Tyson just like...fark off?  He's turned into nothing but the physical manifestation of the "but ackshually" meme.

i kinda agree. Like with Titanic he complained that the stars would not look like that at that time of year at that point  on the globe that year. You are one of maybe a dozen people who would notice that or even know that. Everyone else is paying attention to the story, you are looking at the CGI stars.


The funny thing is that when he doesn't post stuff like that, he post pablum that is even more wrong than what he critiques.  Like "the first trillionaire will be the first person who mines an asteroid."
 
2021-07-20 11:06:22 AM  

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Millions and millions of people. Thousands of orders of magnitude more than the people who care that you exist.
Also, anyone who still posts this meme is a moron.
 
2021-07-20 11:06:32 AM  

LeftisRightisWrong: Conspiracy theory (the fun kind, where it doesn't really matter, just like how these used to be before they became threats to society): Branson and Bezos made an agreement to protect both their brands: Branson was "first," but it doesn't count unless you want his venture to succeed. Bezos was "first" because he'll go higher and therefore meets the requirements. Both get to claim to be the first and jerk themselves off.

Then Elon's going to step in the ring and his sycophants will blow their loads and be so obnoxious no one will want to talk about it.


Speaking of Elon, seems Bezos is doing what he can to help Rivian take a bite out of Tesla. Apparently Amazon has promised to buy 100,000 Rivian delivery vehicles too.

https://www.wglt.org/local-news/2021-​0​7-20/rivian-makes-cameo-during-blue-or​igin-space-launch
 
2021-07-20 11:07:26 AM  

Rattrap007: Fisty Bum: Can Neil deGrasse Tyson just like...fark off?  He's turned into nothing but the physical manifestation of the "but ackshually" meme.

i kinda agree. Like with Titanic he complained that the stars would not look like that at that time of year at that point  on the globe that year. You are one of maybe a dozen people who would notice that or even know that. Everyone else is paying attention to the story, you are looking at the CGI stars.


You realize it is his job to look at stars right?
 
2021-07-20 11:22:07 AM  

Fisty Bum: Can Neil deGrasse Tyson just like...fark off?  He's turned into nothing but the physical manifestation of the "but ackshually" meme.


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2021-07-20 11:28:53 AM  
Carl Sagar?
 
2021-07-20 11:30:15 AM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Carl Sagar?


Didn't he sing for Van Halen?
 
2021-07-20 11:51:47 AM  

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Some people that have more money than they would need in 100s of lifetimes.
 
2021-07-20 12:02:28 PM  
Neil is speaking, someone check the Smug-o-meter!
 
2021-07-20 12:06:23 PM  
You really need the toxic arrogance of Sagan for this one, but Neil will do.

We do need science 101, and someone has to be Captain Obvious and maybe inspire real scientists who help folks on Earth.  Glad others agree with me.
 
2021-07-20 12:08:16 PM  
Hmm. I agree with Tyson:

FTA: "I don't even know if you're going to see the curvature. I did some calculations and I think not. If you are 2 millimeters from the surface of this globe, you don't have the full perspective. It is a visual effect that you get from 50 miles up (about 80 kilometers). So have fun," he said.

It was not "space" in any tourist sense, or in any sense of what "space" is. He was just really high up.

Tyson points out it was all marketing, for which there are no rules about space and definitions.

FTA: It's okay if you want to call it 'space', because average humans haven't gotten there before and it's a first for you. That's why it takes eight minutes to get into orbit and three days to reach the moon. That is actually space travel. So I don't see it as 'oh, let's go into space'. No.

In other words, it is a lie you tell a child to make something mundane more exciting.
 
2021-07-20 12:10:41 PM  

gbv23: You really need the toxic arrogance


Toxic arrogance is whatever Branson did, if he lied. Branson would strip important words of their meaning. We live in a society based on orbital technologies, but Branson can't reach orbit for his business model. So he is trying to change the meaning of the words?
 
2021-07-20 12:19:24 PM  
Ah, I see we've achieved the next level in the evolution of Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

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2021-07-20 12:27:38 PM  
Pick a definition, stick to it, and recognize that nature does not care one whit about where space begins and ends.
 
2021-07-20 12:38:16 PM  
What an asshole, a science educator trying to educate people about science.  ASSHOLE.
 
2021-07-20 12:40:25 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Pick a definition, stick to it, and recognize that nature does not care one whit about where space begins and ends.


It does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.
 
2021-07-20 12:40:26 PM  
Sounds like he got close, but no sagar
 
2021-07-20 12:46:35 PM  
The fact is Richard Branson saw that Bezos was going to do what he did today, didn't have the technology or capability to do it himself, but just HAD to be the "first", even though he's full of shiat and he farking knows it.

So fark his arrogant British ass.  And it went to Rome, biatches.
 
2021-07-20 12:48:41 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: What an asshole, a science educator trying to educate people about science.  ASSHOLE.


There's educating people about science, like Canl Sagar used to do, and there is lecturing people about it.

There is a very fine line between the two.  Canl Sagar could pull it off.  Feel datAss Tyson really can't.
 
2021-07-20 12:58:30 PM  

thehellisthis: TheMysteriousStranger: Pick a definition, stick to it, and recognize that nature does not care one whit about where space begins and ends.

It does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.


That is a legal and bookkeeping thing. Nature does not care for the human need to say "Here space begins."
 
2021-07-20 1:03:46 PM  
There were arguments that the International Space Station isn't in space because it keeps hitting air at 400 km up.  While there isn't much atmospheric drag that high, it does exist.
 
2021-07-20 1:05:01 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: thehellisthis: TheMysteriousStranger: Pick a definition, stick to it, and recognize that nature does not care one whit about where space begins and ends.

It does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.

That is a legal and bookkeeping thing. Nature does not care for the human need to say "Here space begins."


Since it seems like we're now playing the "let's repeat ourselves since we're assholes who absolutely need to have the last word to feel good about ourselves" game, it does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.
 
2021-07-20 1:05:19 PM  

thehellisthis: TheMysteriousStranger: Pick a definition, stick to it, and recognize that nature does not care one whit about where space begins and ends.

It does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.


Anything over 60,000 feet is uncontrolled.

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic​i​es/handbooks_manuals/aviation/phak/med​ia/17_phak_ch15.pdf

So, if you're up above FL600, you are not monitored.
 
2021-07-20 1:10:16 PM  

thehellisthis: TheMysteriousStranger: thehellisthis: TheMysteriousStranger: Pick a definition, stick to it, and recognize that nature does not care one whit about where space begins and ends.

It does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.

That is a legal and bookkeeping thing. Nature does not care for the human need to say "Here space begins."

Since it seems like we're now playing the "let's repeat ourselves since we're assholes who absolutely need to have the last word to feel good about ourselves" game, it does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.


Can I play too?

The answer is "60,000 feet".
 
2021-07-20 1:44:08 PM  

amindtat: LeftisRightisWrong: Conspiracy theory (the fun kind, where it doesn't really matter, just like how these used to be before they became threats to society): Branson and Bezos made an agreement to protect both their brands: Branson was "first," but it doesn't count unless you want his venture to succeed. Bezos was "first" because he'll go higher and therefore meets the requirements. Both get to claim to be the first and jerk themselves off.

Then Elon's going to step in the ring and his sycophants will blow their loads and be so obnoxious no one will want to talk about it.

Speaking of Elon, seems Bezos is doing what he can to help Rivian take a bite out of Tesla. Apparently Amazon has promised to buy 100,000 Rivian delivery vehicles too.

https://www.wglt.org/local-news/2021-0​7-20/rivian-makes-cameo-during-blue-or​igin-space-launch


Good for him.  I'm sitting on a (for me) large sum of money waiting to buy a second-year RIvian SUV.  (Don't want the first year kinks).  It looks like an incredible car.
 
2021-07-20 2:46:57 PM  

haknudsen: You realize it is his job to look at stars right?


Too bad he joined Bill Cosby in the Sun Stare game.
 
2021-07-20 5:29:16 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Carl Sagar?


Yes. I'm sure you've heard Carl Sagar's famous 'pale blue spot' quote.
 
2021-07-20 5:38:47 PM  

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Some people that have more money than they would need in 100s of lifetimes.


Why would they care about what Neil deGrasse Tyson says?

/He was wrong about Pluto.
 
2021-07-20 6:37:34 PM  
Next thing you know he's gonna start lecturing us on what IS a planet and what isn't.
I would be just as thrilled to go to Pluto either way.
 
2021-07-20 6:49:08 PM  

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Some people that have more money than they would need in 100s of lifetimes.

Why would they care about what Neil deGrasse Tyson says?

/He was wrong about Pluto.


Yes, it was all his fault, not The International Astronomical Union.  All, Neil deGrasse Tyson, not nearly every member of the IAU.
 
2021-07-20 8:41:42 PM  

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Some people that have more money than they would need in 100s of lifetimes.

Why would they care about what Neil deGrasse Tyson says?

/He was wrong about Pluto.

Yes, it was all his fault, not The International Astronomical Union.  All, Neil deGrasse Tyson, not nearly every member of the IAU.


His ego is certainly big enough to be.
 
2021-07-20 11:54:08 PM  
There's 'space' as in "air's too thin to support a plane or balloon, so when your momentum is zeroed out by gravity you are coming back down".

There's 'space' as in "you've reached orbital velocity at an altitude where drag isn't a significant factor in the short term".

There's 'space' as in, 'you are in a tin can in a pure vacuum, and you will need a lot of reaction mass to get home'.

Most people are good with the second one.  Trying to pretend the first one is a meaningful fraction of actual space travel is just annoying bullshiat.  The difference between the first and the second is vast.
 
2021-07-21 12:57:38 AM  

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Some people that have more money than they would need in 100s of lifetimes.

Why would they care about what Neil deGrasse Tyson says?

/He was wrong about Pluto.


No he wasn't.

We had a choice, make Pluto a dwarf planet or make every elementary school child learn the 15 planets orbiting the sun. Pluto isn't even the 9 largest planetoid orbiting the Sun, Eris is.
 
2021-07-21 11:56:43 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: thehellisthis: TheMysteriousStranger: Pick a definition, stick to it, and recognize that nature does not care one whit about where space begins and ends.

It does kind of help the FAA to know where to stop monitoring air traffic.

That is a legal and bookkeeping thing. Nature does not care for the human need to say "Here space begins."


Nature doesn't care about anything. It doesn't even care where Earth ends and Mars begins.

So humans shouldn't define anything.

You win.
 
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