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2021-07-19 6:44:20 PM  
And they are *not* going to allow online scaplers to buy them all up in the first 10 seconds? Shocking.
 
2021-07-19 6:46:31 PM  
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2021-07-19 6:51:53 PM  
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2021-07-19 6:59:33 PM  
Are people still buying them for mining bitcoin or is that fad over?
 
2021-07-19 7:15:06 PM  
Huh, I bought an RTX3060 in Wellington on Sunday, wandered into the store and they had heaps in the cabinet.
 
2021-07-19 7:17:28 PM  
I'll stick with Pac-Man.
 
2021-07-19 7:48:03 PM  

ClavellBCMI: And they are *not* going to allow online scaplers to buy them all up in the first 10 seconds? Shocking.


Say what you will but some how Worst Buy had the best system to at least try to mitigate scalpers grabbing things up quick.

Then again when I got mine in January I actually managed to buy two different 3080's one of which ended up with a friend who was also looking.
 
2021-07-19 7:49:30 PM  

OceanVortex: Are people still buying them for mining bitcoin or is that fad over?


No, it's still a thing.  And a thing that really should only be allowed after having your balls tied to trucks going in opposite directions first.  Do you want Bitcoin or your crown jewels?
 
2021-07-19 8:03:09 PM  

Baloo Uriza: OceanVortex: Are people still buying them for mining bitcoin or is that fad over?

No, it's still a thing.  And a thing that really should only be allowed after having your balls tied to trucks going in opposite directions first.  Do you want Bitcoin or your crown jewels?


It's still a thing, yes, has been for many years now. That said, it recently took a big hit when China cracked down on crypto, so we're currently in a down phase of the crypto/hardware cycle, and crypto miners aren't buying up all the cards now like they were until very recently.

In fact, folks in China are seeing a flood of 3000 series GPU's flooding the secondhand markets, as crypto operations shut down and try and get some cash for the hardware. We'll quite possibly see availability coming back to some degree over here at some point in the nearish future too.

Unless I happen to snap one up soon, I'll probably be skipping a gen and waiting for the 4000 series launch myself.
 
2021-07-19 8:08:32 PM  
I wouldn't bother looking online for a good GFX card. Brick and mortar is the way to go. Sure, you may have to drive an hour or two to get to the store, but it beats waiting 6 months for someone like EVGA to scare up a card or two from China.
 
2021-07-19 8:13:45 PM  
I got a ps5. Master race.
 
2021-07-19 9:09:30 PM  
Those are very expensive buttplugs. I can get you a better deal if you meet me in the alley behind McSorley''s.
 
2021-07-19 9:14:41 PM  
At this rate,
I firmly believe the graphics card shortages will need to be dealt with by bracketing the entire customer base into a series of mortal kombat matches.


And while they're busy, the rest of us can find decent GTX cards that won't be used for mining...
 
2021-07-19 9:25:43 PM  
No thank you.
 
2021-07-19 9:29:48 PM  

OceanVortex: Are people still buying them for mining bitcoin or is that fad over?


Ethereum, not Bitcoin.
 
2021-07-19 9:31:06 PM  
Wow, only one store in all of Kentucky? Despite having a Best Buy warehouse in the area, and near UPS WorldPort?!

No cards for you either Cincinnati BB stores.

Oh, well. something about sour grapes...
 
2021-07-19 9:32:52 PM  
I've been trying Newegg Shuffle on and off to try and get a MSRP 3090 through their lottery system (the MSRP 3080s are pretty hard to come by because they don't have firmware hashlocks so the miners buy them all and the 3080ti's that do have locks are basically the same cost as a 3090 at this point for less capability).

I used to use nowinstock.net but that place seems to have not been able to handle the restrictions places.  Anyone have any good recommendations for a live stock checking website that has worked for them on this madness?  I just want to play BF2042 the way god intended!
 
2021-07-19 9:44:13 PM  

Outlawtsar: I've been trying Newegg Shuffle on and off to try and get a MSRP 3090 through their lottery system (the MSRP 3080s are pretty hard to come by because they don't have firmware hashlocks so the miners buy them all and the 3080ti's that do have locks are basically the same cost as a 3090 at this point for less capability).

I used to use nowinstock.net but that place seems to have not been able to handle the restrictions places.  Anyone have any good recommendations for a live stock checking website that has worked for them on this madness?  I just want to play BF2042 the way god intended!


Try the Fixitfixitfixit discord (they have a YouTube channel, too). When stuff drops they often have a direct link to add to cart. I've come close, but I stopped looking recently, as I already managed to swing an RTX 3070 for now (bought a CyberPower PC and snagged the GPU for my own new system, moved my oldest son's GPU onto that system and he got a nice upgrade for his 29th birthday).

When things get better, he'll probably grab a newer GPU (his is an RX580, and works well enough for Skyrim VR over Link to his Quest 2).
 
2021-07-19 10:22:49 PM  
Isn't it delightful living through luxury material shortages?
 
2021-07-19 10:23:54 PM  
I've heard the supply chains are coming back, at least for computer stuff. I'm still on the waiting list for a 3080 at my local computer shop, so here's to hoping I hear something soon.
 
2021-07-19 10:28:47 PM  

ClavellBCMI: And they are *not* going to allow online scaplers to buy them all up in the first 10 seconds? Shocking.


No. Just 95% of them.

The Bitcoin miners are already in line, of course.
 
2021-07-19 10:29:51 PM  

deffuse: Huh, I bought an RTX3060 in Wellington on Sunday, wandered into the store and they had heaps in the cabinet.


Call Minogue and O'Leary because something is not normal at that store. A portal from the future must have opened up or something.
 
2021-07-19 10:39:51 PM  

LesserEvil: Outlawtsar: I've been trying Newegg Shuffle on and off to try and get a MSRP 3090 through their lottery system (the MSRP 3080s are pretty hard to come by because they don't have firmware hashlocks so the miners buy them all and the 3080ti's that do have locks are basically the same cost as a 3090 at this point for less capability).

I used to use nowinstock.net but that place seems to have not been able to handle the restrictions places.  Anyone have any good recommendations for a live stock checking website that has worked for them on this madness?  I just want to play BF2042 the way god intended!

Try the Fixitfixitfixit discord (they have a YouTube channel, too). When stuff drops they often have a direct link to add to cart. I've come close, but I stopped looking recently, as I already managed to swing an RTX 3070 for now (bought a CyberPower PC and snagged the GPU for my own new system, moved my oldest son's GPU onto that system and he got a nice upgrade for his 29th birthday).

When things get better, he'll probably grab a newer GPU (his is an RX580, and works well enough for Skyrim VR over Link to his Quest 2).


Looks like the lines for Black Friday. According to the Discord - they cards are "Founders Edition" cards - not bad, but not great either.
 
2021-07-19 11:15:03 PM  

LesserEvil: Outlawtsar: I've been trying Newegg Shuffle on and off to try and get a MSRP 3090 through their lottery system (the MSRP 3080s are pretty hard to come by because they don't have firmware hashlocks so the miners buy them all and the 3080ti's that do have locks are basically the same cost as a 3090 at this point for less capability).

I used to use nowinstock.net but that place seems to have not been able to handle the restrictions places.  Anyone have any good recommendations for a live stock checking website that has worked for them on this madness?  I just want to play BF2042 the way god intended!

Try the Fixitfixitfixit discord (they have a YouTube channel, too). When stuff drops they often have a direct link to add to cart. I've come close, but I stopped looking recently, as I already managed to swing an RTX 3070 for now (bought a CyberPower PC and snagged the GPU for my own new system, moved my oldest son's GPU onto that system and he got a nice upgrade for his 29th birthday).

When things get better, he'll probably grab a newer GPU (his is an RX580, and works well enough for Skyrim VR over Link to his Quest 2).


Thanks!  That does seem like a friendlier place than the nowinstock discord.  I love the photos of the campers already at all the urban Best Buys.
 
2021-07-19 11:46:57 PM  
Hagerstown MD

shiat. I'm almost tempted to swing out there tomorrow just to look. I can't imagine Hagerstown being a hotbed of cutting-edge technerd activity
 
2021-07-19 11:53:20 PM  

mongbiohazard: Baloo Uriza: OceanVortex: Are people still buying them for mining bitcoin or is that fad over?

No, it's still a thing.  And a thing that really should only be allowed after having your balls tied to trucks going in opposite directions first.  Do you want Bitcoin or your crown jewels?

It's still a thing, yes, has been for many years now. That said, it recently took a big hit when China cracked down on crypto, so we're currently in a down phase of the crypto/hardware cycle, and crypto miners aren't buying up all the cards now like they were until very recently.

In fact, folks in China are seeing a flood of 3000 series GPU's flooding the secondhand markets, as crypto operations shut down and try and get some cash for the hardware. We'll quite possibly see availability coming back to some degree over here at some point in the nearish future too.

Unless I happen to snap one up soon, I'll probably be skipping a gen and waiting for the 4000 series launch myself.


The most important thing to note is that you DO NOT want to buy used GPUs for a while now. They will be bleeding into the used market and the LAST thing you want for a GPU is a card that has been run at 100% for six months.
 
2021-07-20 1:02:50 AM  
Or, do like me and 'win' a Newegg Shuffle. (it's not winning if you gotta pay for it, but the price was real good).
 
2021-07-20 1:20:24 AM  

madgonad: mongbiohazard: Baloo Uriza: OceanVortex: Are people still buying them for mining bitcoin or is that fad over?

No, it's still a thing.  And a thing that really should only be allowed after having your balls tied to trucks going in opposite directions first.  Do you want Bitcoin or your crown jewels?

It's still a thing, yes, has been for many years now. That said, it recently took a big hit when China cracked down on crypto, so we're currently in a down phase of the crypto/hardware cycle, and crypto miners aren't buying up all the cards now like they were until very recently.

In fact, folks in China are seeing a flood of 3000 series GPU's flooding the secondhand markets, as crypto operations shut down and try and get some cash for the hardware. We'll quite possibly see availability coming back to some degree over here at some point in the nearish future too.

Unless I happen to snap one up soon, I'll probably be skipping a gen and waiting for the 4000 series launch myself.

The most important thing to note is that you DO NOT want to buy used GPUs for a while now. They will be bleeding into the used market and the LAST thing you want for a GPU is a card that has been run at 100% for six months.



says the guy on the prowl for cheap 2nd hand GPUs

/ask for a warranty receipt
//miners worth their salt while have been undervolting their cards
 
2021-07-20 3:18:06 AM  
I haven't looked in a while but am looking to upgrade. Simple question:

Where is the break point for being CPU-bound if moving to one these cards? I have an higher i7 something or other that is about four or five years old.
 
2021-07-20 3:39:20 AM  

BafflerMeal: I haven't looked in a while but am looking to upgrade. Simple question:

Where is the break point for being CPU-bound if moving to one these cards? I have an higher i7 something or other that is about four or five years old.


Just run the newest game you have on minimal graphics settings. That should give you an idea of how fast your CPU can go.
 
2021-07-20 3:58:41 AM  

I Like Bread: BafflerMeal: I haven't looked in a while but am looking to upgrade. Simple question:

Where is the break point for being CPU-bound if moving to one these cards? I have an higher i7 something or other that is about four or five years old.

Just run the newest game you have on minimal graphics settings. That should give you an idea of how fast your CPU can go.


I like that method. Good call. Thx.
 
2021-07-20 5:28:12 AM  

germ78: I wouldn't bother looking online for a good GFX card. Brick and mortar is the way to go. Sure, you may have to drive an hour or two to get to the store, but it beats waiting 6 months for someone like EVGA to scare up a card or two from China.


Well, that's all fine, if you have a brick and mortar store to drive to. Some of us don't. I've never had trouble getting any previous generation cards.
 
2021-07-20 6:47:36 AM  
Had they been available in my city, I'd be tempted to get one. I don't need a heavy duty card since all I do is watch ATSC and DVB-S2 TV and edit RAW photos, but it'd be fun to wave my internet dick in people's faces.
 
2021-07-20 6:54:09 AM  
I'd rather have an AMD card at this point. Getting tired of Nvidia.
 
2021-07-20 8:21:45 AM  

Nimbull: I'd rather have an AMD card at this point. Getting tired of Nvidia.


I really don't get the love for AMD cards right now. All the MSRP drops for AMD cards have been 2~3 times the price of the equivalent-tier nvidia cards dropping at MSRP. They are pre-scalped.

At least nvidia is still offering some budget cards, too... where is the 6600? While critics have found reasons to be negative about the LHR refresh, at least Nvidia did something to make their GPUs less attractive to miners, which ultimately means more availability for gamers. What has AMD done? Oh right... absolutely nothing.

The first video card I used to build a PC with was an ATI EGAWonder. 1987. I have plenty of ATI and AMD cards in this household, so this isn't a fanboy rant. I just don't feel like they did a single thing to help PC enthusiasts during this period of unprecedented demand (not a shortage, let's not call it that). I'm interested to see what they come up with for RDNA3... but where are the RDNA2-based APUs? Their APU lineup is a mess right now, with a mic of Zen2 and Vega-based technologies wearing 5000-level designations. WTF?
 
2021-07-20 8:32:52 AM  
I'm just hoping everything dies down by the next round of cards at least.

Snagged an EVGA 2080 FTW3 a couple years ago that's still pulling it's weight, so I'm sticking to my cycle of "upgrade every 2-3 generations".
 
2021-07-20 8:59:02 AM  
Call me when the prices drop to saner levels, super inflated.
 
2021-07-20 9:25:25 AM  
I'm gonna run over there and check it out, theres a best buy like 5 minutes from the warehouse I am stationed at. Kinda just want to see if there's a crowd.
 
2021-07-20 9:41:26 AM  

mavvy911: Call me when the prices drop to saner levels, super inflated.


The cards Best Buy will be selling at not inflated... They are Founders Editions, MSRP. $499 for 3070-level performance was a great price BEFORE all this crazy demand happened.
 
2021-07-20 9:45:09 AM  

American Decency Association: says the guy on the prowl for cheap 2nd hand GPUs

/ask for a warranty receipt
//miners worth their salt while have been undervolting their cards


Never bought a used GPU in my life, and I've owned a few going back to the Ticket to Ride cards and the original Monster Sound / Monster3D combo, Glide was the shizzle back in the day.

That said, I am still sitting on a 1080 that I picked up four years ago. Was planning on building a new gaming PC last Xmas when the new generation came out but availability was zilch. Made a new low power server instead based on the J5040 embedded CPU. I'll probably wait for Zen 3+ before building the new PC now.
 
2021-07-20 9:55:59 AM  
I'm still running a 1050.
 
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2021-07-20 10:10:25 AM  
Birmingham Alabama store this morning:

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2021-07-20 10:16:17 AM  

LesserEvil: really don't get the love for AMD cards right now. All the MSRP drops for AMD cards have been 2~3 times the price of the equivalent-tier nvidia cards dropping at MSRP. They are pre-scalped.


The driver situation for nvidia is farking awful fairly universally.  At least the Linux kernel ships with decent Radeon drivers.
 
2021-07-20 10:34:39 AM  
Took me three months of stalking sales drops on Discord but I got a 3090 FE at MSRP from BestBuy back in March. Had to RMA the thing back to Nvidia because the fan was broken, then the replacement they sent me was overheating so I had to open it up to replace the thermal pads and buy a new PC case with better airflow. Then I had to buy faster memory and a faster CPU to keep up with the thing. And a new motherboard and Water cooler for the CPU. And now I'm broke...
But it can run Star Citizen at the highest settings in 4K @ 60fps without breaking a sweat, so ... worth it.
 
2021-07-20 10:49:38 AM  

Slybri: But it can run Star Citizen at the highest settings in 4K @ 60fps without breaking a sweat, so ... worth it.


Is the latest PTU worth installing? I've been away for a couple years.
 
2021-07-20 10:52:54 AM  
No stock in Brick, NJ. One (probably gone by now) in Manalapan, NJ.
 
2021-07-20 11:16:35 AM  
The correct way to get a 3000-series Nvidia card at this point is to buy an HP Omen desktop, pull the card and sell the rest of the system on Ebay for a fraction of its value. Sure, you spent $1500 for a 3070, but you'll probably get, like, half your money back.
 
2021-07-20 11:31:25 AM  

madgonad: Slybri: But it can run Star Citizen at the highest settings in 4K @ 60fps without breaking a sweat, so ... worth it.

Is the latest PTU worth installing? I've been away for a couple years.


Yeah, it's much improved. There are still lots of bugs though.  I blow up my ship a lot by stupidly bumping into stuff, but once I learned to dock at a space station and respawn there instead of having to take a train ride to my ship every time, death is more forgiving. You can also earn money to rent or buy other ships now, so that keeps me coming back. And it all looks amazing.
It's more fun than ED: Odyssey right now. Dunno what they were thinking with that BS.
 
2021-07-20 11:54:26 AM  

likefunbutnot: The correct way to get a 3000-series Nvidia card at this point is to buy an HP Omen desktop, pull the card and sell the rest of the system on Ebay for a fraction of its value. Sure, you spent $1500 for a 3070, but you'll probably get, like, half your money back.


Well, that's sort of how I got my 3070. Bought the CyberPowerPC, pulled the GPU. Pulled GPU from my oldest son's system (RX580) and installed it in the CyberPowerPC, which gave him a nice upgrade (1600X -> 3700X and rest of it) for his birthday... then took his old system, cleaned it up, installed some nice stuff on it for his friend, who I sold it to for $550 (with a 950 GPU). Both of them will upgrade their GPUs when the prices come back down, but they are both happy for the games they play. Basically, I got the 3070 for around $500 and upgraded my son's PC for around $550.

Baloo Uriza: The driver situation for nvidia is farking awful fairly universally.  At least the Linux kernel ships with decent Radeon drivers.


??

I have not had any issues with Nvidia drivers, though I don't game on my Linux boxes (I have several, hosting mostly storage arrays), so that's strictly from a Windows standpoint.

AMD drivers... well, I understand they are much better now, but geez, they got bad a few years ago. It's hard to regain trust after the crap AMD slung out for a while.
 
2021-07-20 11:54:44 AM  

Slybri: Yeah, it's much improved. There are still lots of bugs though.  I blow up my ship a lot by stupidly bumping into stuff, but once I learned to dock at a space station and respawn there instead of having to take a train ride to my ship every time, death is more forgiving. You can also earn money to rent or buy other ships now, so that keeps me coming back. And it all looks amazing.
It's more fun than ED: Odyssey right now. Dunno what they were thinking with that BS.


Hey, I backed both ED and SC. Only one of those games has been released and then gotten old and boring. I heard bad stuff about Odyssey so I haven't bothered with the expansion. it turns out that doing all of the hard things that Chris agreed to is hard.
 
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