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(CNN)   After causing the crash that led Max Verstappen to the hospital, Lewis Hamilton has received a ton of 'N' comments on social media   (cnn.com) divider line
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5 days ago  
You forget that Europeans can be more viciously racist than Americans.
Doubt much of that came from here since most Muricans don't watch F1 racing.
People suck.
 
5 days ago  
Stay classy dickless morons

Also, yeah the celebration was a dock move, but Get a grip Red Bull
 
5 days ago  
F1 has a swath of absolutely toxic fandom, and they have put themselves front and center over the last 36 hours.
 
5 days ago  
When Europeans are racist, it's cutural.  Americans don't have culture so we'll never understand.
 
5 days ago  
Buckle up:

This was a historic clash, and the kind of shunt that will be replayed for years to come.

This is an unfortunate tradition of the changing of the guard atop F1. The young challenger matches, or eclipses, the great champion. And it's often punctuated with some kind of controversy on behalf of the aging champion.

In 2006, Michael Schumacher goofed a turn at Monaco and denied his up-and-coming rival, Fernando Alonso, a chance at winning pole in qualifying. Schumacher also won a drivers championship following a lap-1 wreck that took both he and his challenger for the title out. Ayrton Senna was on both sides of that scenario - losing and winning a title by crashing with his main championship contender. 

Max Verstappen has been plagued more by inferior or unreliable equipment of late, but he's quite a hard racer, and Lewis Hamilton tried to give it back to him yesterday after Max won the previous three races - which would have been five in a row if one of his tires didn't explode in Azerbaijan.

Mercedes brought upgrades to the British Grand Prix - Lewis Hamilton's home race - which seemed to catch them up to Verstappen's dominant Red Bull car.

As for the accident itself, neither driver backed off, and the one on the outside - Verstappen - paid the price. Hamilton was lucky his car didn't get collected, or sustain race-ending damage in the collision.

Unfortunately, when F1 cars race wheel-to-wheel, a mouse fart can whip them into orbit. It was more than a mouse fart, but it was most definitely not intentional. Even F1 drivers, with their superior, fine-tuned reflexes, cannot react in time in certain situations; Hamilton pulled alongside Verstappen going into the turn, and less than a second later, Verstappen shot ahead, almost completely by him. They came together in that splinter of time. 

This is the part where I admit that (1) I am a Lewis Hamilton fan and (2) I agree Hamilton bears responsibility for that incident. He was assessed a 10-second penalty, which he served during his pit stop, and then he was able to recover and take the lead with three laps to go. In the past, drivers like Schumacher were banned for races when found at fault. Heck, Schumacher was benched an entire year once. The perceived leniency of the penalty fed into the belief that F1 favors Mercedes. 

Now comes the hard part. In my opinion, Hamilton and his team celebrated the victory a little too much. He may not have known Verstappen was taken to a local hospital for evaluation at the time, but he was well aware he and the driver he was fighting with for the championship came together, and with Verstappen out, Hamilton had a much easier go of it. This also allowed Hamilton to significantly cut into Verstappen's championship lead. The celebration was, in my opinion, in extremely poor taste; no one should celebrate being lucky to escape that wreck, nor should they exult while their main opponent was knocked out of the race.

Because he's the best Formula 1 driver of his generation, and one of the best of all time (and soon to be statistically the most successful F1 driver in history), many F1 fans hate Hamilton. If it weren't for an unqualified Russian serial sex abuser whose oligarch father bought him his seat, Lewis would be the most hated driver on the grid.

That comes with the territory. So does the racism. It's just that yesterday's clash, and the controversy that followed, put a bright spotlight on the racism. That and Max Verstappen's incredible popularity around the world. He's been on the verge of a world championship for the last couple of years and now he's closing in one on... depending on how he and his team recover from this setback. 

It still baffles me that since he entered F1 in 2007, Lewis Hamilton is STILL the only Black driver on the grid.
 
5 days ago  

baka-san: Stay classy dickless morons

Also, yeah the celebration was a dock move, but Get a grip Red Bull


The idea that Lewis wouldn't celebrate winning his home Gran Prix after the race was canceled last year is ridiculous. Drivers have been hurt worse every year and it's part of the job. Verstappen is a rich brat who can't  observe the anti racism ceremony with Lewis because of his family's status at home. And as far as racing goes it was just exciting racing from the two best drivers.
 
5 days ago  

YabbaDabbaDouchebag: Buckle up:

This was a historic clash, and the kind of shunt that will be replayed for years to come.

This is an unfortunate tradition of the changing of the guard atop F1. The young challenger matches, or eclipses, the great champion. And it's often punctuated with some kind of controversy on behalf of the aging champion.

In 2006, Michael Schumacher goofed a turn at Monaco and denied his up-and-coming rival, Fernando Alonso, a chance at winning pole in qualifying. Schumacher also won a drivers championship following a lap-1 wreck that took both he and his challenger for the title out. Ayrton Senna was on both sides of that scenario - losing and winning a title by crashing with his main championship contender. 

Max Verstappen has been plagued more by inferior or unreliable equipment of late, but he's quite a hard racer, and Lewis Hamilton tried to give it back to him yesterday after Max won the previous three races - which would have been five in a row if one of his tires didn't explode in Azerbaijan.

Mercedes brought upgrades to the British Grand Prix - Lewis Hamilton's home race - which seemed to catch them up to Verstappen's dominant Red Bull car.

As for the accident itself, neither driver backed off, and the one on the outside - Verstappen - paid the price. Hamilton was lucky his car didn't get collected, or sustain race-ending damage in the collision.

Unfortunately, when F1 cars race wheel-to-wheel, a mouse fart can whip them into orbit. It was more than a mouse fart, but it was most definitely not intentional. Even F1 drivers, with their superior, fine-tuned reflexes, cannot react in time in certain situations; Hamilton pulled alongside Verstappen going into the turn, and less than a second later, Verstappen shot ahead, almost completely by him. They came together in that splinter of time. 

This is the part where I admit that (1) I am a Lewis Hamilton fan and (2) I agree Hamilton bears responsibility for that incident. He was assessed a 10-second penalty, which he served during his pit stop, and then he was able to recover and take the lead with three laps to go. In the past, drivers like Schumacher were banned for races when found at fault. Heck, Schumacher was benched an entire year once. The perceived leniency of the penalty fed into the belief that F1 favors Mercedes. 

Now comes the hard part. In my opinion, Hamilton and his team celebrated the victory a little too much. He may not have known Verstappen was taken to a local hospital for evaluation at the time, but he was well aware he and the driver he was fighting with for the championship came together, and with Verstappen out, Hamilton had a much easier go of it. This also allowed Hamilton to significantly cut into Verstappen's championship lead. The celebration was, in my opinion, in extremely poor taste; no one should celebrate being lucky to escape that wreck, nor should they exult while their main opponent was knocked out of the race.

Because he's the best Formula 1 driver of his generation, and one of the best of all time (and soon to be statistically the most successful F1 driver in history), many F1 fans hate Hamilton. If it weren't for an unqualified Russian serial sex abuser whose oligarch father bought him his seat, Lewis would be the most hated driver on the grid.

That comes with the territory. So does the racism. It's just that yesterday's clash, and the controversy that followed, put a bright spotlight on the racism. That and Max Verstappen's incredible popularity around the world. He's been on the verge of a world championship for the last couple of years and now he's closing in one on... depending on how he and his team recover from this setback. 

It still baffles me that since he entered F1 in 2007, Lewis Hamilton is STILL the only Black driver on the grid.


On point.  The only American analogy we can use currently is Bubba Wallace.
 
5 days ago  

melfunction: baka-san: Stay classy dickless morons

Also, yeah the celebration was a dock move, but Get a grip Red Bull

The idea that Lewis wouldn't celebrate winning his home Gran Prix after the race was canceled last year is ridiculous. Drivers have been hurt worse every year and it's part of the job.


There were two GPs at Silverstone last year, but no fans.

But, yeah. It's his home GP, capacity crowd (so also no doubt a great super spreader for new and exciting Covid variants but that's for another thread) pumped for his victory, he only took P1 in the last few laps and we've all had a shiat year+. And the last communication between Merc and HAM re: Max that was broadcast was when the race was red flagged and the team told him Max was OK. So he's going to be on the biggest endorphin rush possible.

Verstappen is a rich brat who can't  observe the anti racism ceremony with Lewis because of his family's status at home. And as far as racing goes it was just exciting racing from the two best drivers.

To be faaaair, it could be argued that they're all rich brats. Personally, I thought Max was a cocky little shiat when he started, but, then, he was 17, and he seems to be pretty mature and stoical these days.

I think the Wolff/Horner shiat makes for an entertaining WWE-style sideshow, though.
 
5 days ago  

melfunction: baka-san: Stay classy dickless morons

Also, yeah the celebration was a dock move, but Get a grip Red Bull

The idea that Lewis wouldn't celebrate winning his home Gran Prix after the race was canceled last year is ridiculous. Drivers have been hurt worse every year and it's part of the job. Verstappen is a rich brat who can't  observe the anti racism ceremony with Lewis because of his family's status at home. And as far as racing goes it was just exciting racing from the two best drivers.


I thought all the drivers partook, but Verstappen was part of a handful that didn't take a knee.

It's an F1-wide campaign.

But yeah, there are rumors about Max in that department.
 
5 days ago  
I'm surprised he drives as fast as he does. Most black folk I know drive at or just below the speed limit, so they don't get pulled over.
 
5 days ago  
Hamilton should have been black flagged for that, and every single asshole who called him a racist term should be shot.

Then shoot someone from Ferrari, they probably deserve it.
 
5 days ago  

UNC_Samurai: F1 has a swath of absolutely toxic fandom, and they have put themselves front and center over the last 36 hours.


Every sport does, from soccer to baseball. It's not just limited to F1 fans.
 
5 days ago  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Hamilton should have been black flagged for that, and every single asshole who called him a racist term should be shot.

Then shoot someone from Ferrari, they probably deserve it.


I'll agree with you on the second point, but Hamilton should not have been black flagged, because it was not intentional. Perhaps a 10-second stop-and-go would have been justified -- I'll half-agree with your first point, in that his penalty was too lenient.

But in retrospect it was consistent with their previous penalties -- causing an avoidable collision which knocks the other guy out of the race has consistently been a 10 second time penalty, and it's the penalty they would have handed out if two no-name back-markers had an otherwise identical collision.
 
5 days ago  

Pinner: You forget that Europeans can be more viciously racist than Americans.
Doubt much of that came from here since most Muricans don't watch F1 racing.
People suck.


....and other countries think America is racist, too. They need to look in the mirror and realize they need to make changes, too.
 
5 days ago  

YabbaDabbaDouchebag: It still baffles me that since he entered F1 in 2007, Lewis Hamilton is STILL the only Black driver on the grid.


TIL: that there is a Black driver in Formula 1. (I'd heard the name, but...)

/Don't the "fans" at fütbol matches over there still lob bananas at Black players from time to time?
 
5 days ago  
bluorangefyre:  On point.  The only American analogy we can use currently is Bubba Wallace.

Thankfully, Bubba's on-track success has gone a long way to diversify NASCAR.  The sport won't survive or evolve, unless it makes itself accessible to a more diverse audience.
 
4 days ago  

YabbaDabbaDouchebag: Buckle up:

This was a historic clash, and the kind of shunt that will be replayed for years to come.


I still leaning towards the "it was a racing incident" view of that accident, but for as vicious of a hit Max took into the tire barrier, perhaps Hamilton should have been given a bigger penalty than 10 seconds.  it does feel like a changing of the guard moment in F1 though - neither driver gave the other an inch. had Hamilton backed off, the today's headlines would say that Hamilton is washed up and if Verstappen backed off they would have said the kid doesn't have what it takes to be a champion.

now the headlines will all be about the feud and the bad blood between the two and which one will prevail at the end of the season. and as a race fan - I want to see what's going to happen between these two great drivers the next time they're close to each other on the track. 

/and f the racist assholes who sent these comments.
 
4 days ago  

fatalvenom: I'm surprised he drives as fast as he does. Most black folk I know drive at or just below the speed limit, so they don't get pulled over.


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4 days ago  

fatalvenom: I'm surprised he drives as fast as he does. Most black folk I know drive at or just below the speed limit, so they don't get pulled over.


I... uhhh... what?
 
4 days ago  
I lean toward racing incident, but I am OK with penalizing the experienced driver for not knowing what was going to happen. I like them both. Lewis is good enough to recognize when it was time to leave McLaren, and he is good enough to have tied or exceeded most of the all time records. Extra points for being black and having to put up with all that goes along with that. Max getting an F1 ride at 17 says a lot about his raw talent, but saying that his driving style is aggressive is an understatement. He seems a bit like Senna, in that he feels that he is entitled to win every race. When he gets a little wiser, and picks his battles better, he is going to win a lot of championships.
 
4 days ago  

poconojoe: I still leaning towards the "it was a racing incident" view of that accident, but for as vicious of a hit Max took into the tire barrier, perhaps Hamilton should have been given a bigger penalty than 10 seconds.


I think the penalty should be applied based on how the incident happened, and not on the results of the incident. Max took a 51G hit in to the wall, and had to be checked out in hospital after. That's bad, sure, but that only came about from a small touch. The video is here (can't be embedded on Fark) and I did this screen grab of the moment of contact:

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They're both going at speeds approaching 200 mph, but the contact itself was minimal. I wouldn't disagree that perhaps a stronger penalty would have been fairer, but not just because Max ended up in the wall.

And shouldn't Horner be asking questions of Pirelli, too, since the tyre suffered explosive decompression from wheel-to-wheel contact?

it does feel like a changing of the guard moment in F1 though - neither driver gave the other an inch. had Hamilton backed off, the today's headlines would say that Hamilton is washed up and if Verstappen backed off they would have said the kid doesn't have what it takes to be a champion.

Next year's going to be very interesting if Russel replaces Boat Ass. New cars, too.
 
4 days ago  

Clutch2013: fatalvenom: I'm surprised he drives as fast as he does. Most black folk I know drive at or just below the speed limit, so they don't get pulled over.

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Seriously? I'm being completely serious.

Seriously.

My two friends from work won't even do a short street race on a side road against me.

They say it's because they won't pull me over. I said, "you're right. 392 Challengers won't beat me".

They just nodded and agreed.
 
4 days ago  

fatalvenom: Clutch2013: fatalvenom: I'm surprised he drives as fast as he does. Most black folk I know drive at or just below the speed limit, so they don't get pulled over.

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Seriously? I'm being completely serious.

Seriously.

My two friends from work won't even do a short street race on a side road against me.

They say it's because they won't pull me over. I said, "you're right. 392 Challengers won't beat me".

They just nodded and agreed.


I didn't say you were wrong.

/I gave you the funny click, FWIW.
 
4 days ago  

Clutch2013: fatalvenom: Clutch2013: fatalvenom: I'm surprised he drives as fast as he does. Most black folk I know drive at or just below the speed limit, so they don't get pulled over.

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Seriously? I'm being completely serious.

Seriously.

My two friends from work won't even do a short street race on a side road against me.

They say it's because they won't pull me over. I said, "you're right. 392 Challengers won't beat me".

They just nodded and agreed.

I didn't say you were wrong.

/I gave you the funny click, FWIW.


Gave ya both.

We did take our cars out to test and tune one night. It wasnt pretty.

When the county sherrif Camaro came out to run the 1320' for the kids, he was right behind them in the burnout box while he was getting ready to go. The guy running the Camaro had the light bar going and the siren while he was doing a burnout in the box.

My buddy was so high, he thought he was on the road outside of the track, panicked, and red lighted when he wasnt even staged yet, trying to get away.

Probably one of the top 5 funniest things I've ever seen happen on a track of any discipline.
 
4 days ago  

YabbaDabbaDouchebag: fatalvenom: I'm surprised he drives as fast as he does. Most black folk I know drive at or just below the speed limit, so they don't get pulled over.

I... uhhh... what?


It's an America thing. Driving above the speed limit is a valid reason for police to pull you over, and Black people are significantly more likely than white people to have catastrophic or fatal outcomes from police encounters.
 
4 days ago  
They're saying that Hamilton is near?
 
4 days ago  

poconojoe: YabbaDabbaDouchebag: Buckle up:

This was a historic clash, and the kind of shunt that will be replayed for years to come.

I still leaning towards the "it was a racing incident" view of that accident


If there's one thing that 5 years of posting on the F1 reddit sub has taught me, it's that American sports fans have extremely different expectations than European ones. I hate to be the stereotypical ugly American, but it really explains why they get so worked up over a soccer game where nothing happens.
The F1 expectation for that instance was "well, Max was a nose ahead going into the corner, so clearly Lewis should relent and allow him to take the preferred racing line. It's the gentlemanly thing to do". he American perspective, crafted from a life time of NASCAR viewing is the opposite "Lewis was clearly trying to pass and has the inside line, why on Earth would he back off?"
 
4 days ago  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Hamilton should have been black flagged for that, and every single asshole who called him a racist term should be shot.

Then shoot someone from Ferrari, they probably deserve it.


That was at worst a 50/50 chance Hamilton took at that point but both drivers were going hard and not giving an inch. The double movement from Verstappen to defend on the straight to try and push Hamilton into the pit wall was just as bad, as was an incident before when Verstappen forcibly closed the door and made Hamilton back out or lose his front wing.

Both were to blame for the contact, it was just Red Bull running the tyres over pressure that caused the bump to be a race ender.

Good PR from Red Bull though, making sure no one is asking about why the tyre came off the rim as the tyres have been a talking point recently.
 
4 days ago  
Jeebus, limeys. This is twice in eight days. You know you can be sad without doing a racism. No one asked for a Prince Phillip tribute band.
 
4 days ago  

Lifeless: When Europeans are racist, it's cutural.  Americans don't have culture so we'll never understand.


"Heritage".
 
4 days ago  

stoli n coke: Jeebus, limeys. This is twice in eight days. You know you can be sad without doing a racism. No one asked for a Prince Phillip tribute band.



This was the orangeys, not limeys.
 
4 days ago  
People want hard racing, get angry when hard racing ensues. Hamilton can't afford to back off now so in this game of chicken, Verstappen lost out. We'll probably see more of it until someone decides to back out.
 
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