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(WHNS Fox 21)   Tokyo hotel apologizes for "Japanese only" elevator sign. The first time anyone used it it was uplifting but then it let people down   (foxcarolina.com) divider line
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2021-07-18 4:43:35 AM  
I lol'd.
 
2021-07-18 7:24:06 AM  
Japan handling the Olympics like:

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2021-07-18 7:26:49 AM  
Why does this surprise anyone? The Japanese have always been like that. They were just being honest about it.
 
2021-07-18 7:26:57 AM  
Make everyone take the stairs.
 
2021-07-18 7:27:48 AM  
No surprise.  To put this into some context, these are the signs that greet  you when you arrive at Tokyo Narita Airport:
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The English says "Welcome to Japan."

The Japanese says "Welcome home / Welcome back."
 
2021-07-18 7:31:26 AM  
Wow, feeling the warm and fuzzies from all the way over here! *eyeroll*
 
2021-07-18 7:34:57 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Japan handling the Olympics like:

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The entire country is like "why are we going through this again?" Nobody seems to know why this is still going on but somehow the old farts in government are dragging everyone through it.

The Olympics is always a mess but this one takes the cake.
 
2021-07-18 7:37:28 AM  
Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.
 
2021-07-18 7:38:24 AM  
Just being good hosts; the Japanese are highly infectious.
 
2021-07-18 7:40:25 AM  

GoldDude: Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.


The fact Japan is so farking racist that they won't give citizenship to fifth generation Koreans descended from the slave workers imperial Japan brought over to work to Death?
 
2021-07-18 7:47:46 AM  

thatboyoverthere: GoldDude: Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.

The fact Japan is so farking racist that they won't give citizenship to fifth generation Koreans descended from the slave workers imperial Japan brought over to work to Death?


He's saying this example isn't racist, not that Japan is innocent of racism.
 
2021-07-18 7:53:06 AM  

GoldDude: Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.


The intent has everything to do with a lot of assumptions about language and ethnicity and identity that don't fly in many places. Like the entire North and South American continents. It's incredibly telling, and vastly different from signs saying separating residents and non-residents in customs (which are separate and also exist).

It's not exactly racist but it is extremely telling that they would assume if you speak/read Japanese you must BE Japanese. That's an ethnically defined nation state.
 
2021-07-18 7:55:40 AM  

GoldDude: Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.


Thanks to the covid pandemic, it't been a while since I last had to go through immigration/customs at a Japanese airport, but I think Japan has 4 lines: Japanese Residents, Special Permanent Residents, Foreign residents with re-entry visas, and Non-resident foreigners (tourists etc.). There's probably a diplomat line as well, but I think that's case everywhere.

The Special Permanent Resident line is for ethnically Korean (and maybe a few Taiwanese and Chinese) residents who have been here since before WWII, and their children. Not sure if it extends to their grandchildren.

So, until the end of the war they were imperial citizens, but they lost that status when the Japanese empire was defeated. Some went back to Korea, some stayed in Japan, and the nationality issue got a bit complex. Eventually, the Japanese government got around to awarding them Special Permanent Residency Status, which is better than Permanent Residency Status because as far as I am aware, it doesn't need renewing.
 
2021-07-18 8:00:55 AM  
I find it ironic that I can't read TFA in Europe.
 
2021-07-18 8:10:02 AM  

NobleHam: I find it ironic that I can't read TFA in Europe.


Well, see, everyonehates Europe, so it's not bigotry.
 
2021-07-18 8:11:18 AM  

GoldDude: Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.


AFAIK, custom lines are all the same. Immigration lines differ.
And those differ because of the different workflow you get with different/varied documents with different visas and requirements.
Elevators starting in the same floor and go to the same floors? Why segregate?

/now they CAN have Japanese people on some floors and non-Japanese on others upon booking and then assign and limit the elevators to the different floors.
 
2021-07-18 8:18:36 AM  
Bravo, Subby!! Thank you for the lol!
 
2021-07-18 8:19:30 AM  

GoldDude: Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.


Really? That's cute. If China put the same sign up, you'd be howling with rage.

How many non-genetically Japanese have Japanese citizenship?
 
2021-07-18 8:21:08 AM  
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2021-07-18 8:22:03 AM  
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2021-07-18 8:23:46 AM  
Given how the culture works I wouldn't be surprised to see a sign that said ' Fat Americans' pointing to the stairs too. They're polite but brutal like that. Other times it's the translation that makes things wierd.
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2021-07-18 8:29:55 AM  

jokerscrowbar: Given how the culture works I wouldn't be surprised to see a sign that said ' Fat Americans' pointing to the stairs too. They're polite but brutal like that. Other times it's the translation that makes things wierd.
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Where the hell are they getting that? That isn't even a machine translation, just  "Thank you for using the toilet cleanly". Some guy must be showing off what he remembers from his university English classes.
 
2021-07-18 8:32:32 AM  

aagrajag: jokerscrowbar: Given how the culture works I wouldn't be surprised to see a sign that said ' Fat Americans' pointing to the stairs too. They're polite but brutal like that. Other times it's the translation that makes things wierd.
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Where the hell are they getting that? That isn't even a machine translation, just  "Thank you for using the toilet cleanly". Some guy must be showing off what he remembers from his university English classes.


That's a goddamned work of poetry is what that is.

The japanese is pedestrian. Nothing special. I think Robert Frost, or maybe ee cumings, was channeled for the English.
 
2021-07-18 8:37:17 AM  
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2021-07-18 8:40:58 AM  

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Where's that from? It must be old; the Chinese is not only traditional, but also right-to-left. No one writes that way anymore.
 
2021-07-18 8:43:11 AM  
When I first checked in and saw this story, I was floored. After receiving such a negative reception, I'm just glad that the hotel apologized and did not try to lobby others for support.
 
2021-07-18 8:45:41 AM  
What's Japanese for plague rat?   Imagine  my shock at businesses turning away customers.  Certainly not Las Vegas.
 
2021-07-18 8:48:29 AM  

GoldDude: Change the signs to "Domestic Residents Only" and "Foreign / Non-Residents Only".
That is the intent and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with race.

Are customs areas "racist" by having different lines for Japanese residents and Foreign/Non-Residents?
Because just about every customs area in the world is set up like that.


Unlike customs, usually I don't get an anal probe in the hotel elevator.

Except for that one time ...
 
2021-07-18 8:50:25 AM  
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2021-07-18 8:57:29 AM  
Cancel Japan.
 
2021-07-18 8:57:34 AM  
It's better than escalators. I don't trust them because they are always up to something.
 
2021-07-18 9:06:39 AM  

Fano: It's better than escalators. I don't trust them because they are always up to something.


When escalators break, they become stairs.

"Apologies for the convenience"
 
2021-07-18 9:06:54 AM  

leeksfromchichis: aagrajag: jokerscrowbar: Given how the culture works I wouldn't be surprised to see a sign that said ' Fat Americans' pointing to the stairs too. They're polite but brutal like that. Other times it's the translation that makes things wierd.
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Where the hell are they getting that? That isn't even a machine translation, just  "Thank you for using the toilet cleanly". Some guy must be showing off what he remembers from his university English classes.

That's a goddamned work of poetry is what that is.

The japanese is pedestrian. Nothing special. I think Robert Frost, or maybe ee cumings, was channeled for the English.


sounds more like the writing style of  I.P. Freely to me.
 
2021-07-18 9:08:10 AM  
"He said the signs were removed on Sunday morning and the hotel was now discussing with its headquarters what expression to use instead"

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2021-07-18 9:10:11 AM  

Gordon Bennett: A quick image search shows this sentiment is not unique.

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There are ways around that

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2021-07-18 9:11:39 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Gordon Bennett: A quick image search shows this sentiment is not unique.

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Even the little girl to the left knows instinctively that there is something Very Wrong with that man.
 
2021-07-18 9:11:41 AM  
Another likened the signs to US"Jim Crow" measures

Yeah that's who they're emulating. I hear Jim Crow is big in Japan.
 
2021-07-18 9:13:58 AM  

aagrajag: ranchguy: [qph.fs.quoracdn.net image 602x426]

Where's that from? It must be old; the Chinese is not only traditional, but also right-to-left. No one writes that way anymore.


That's from a Bruce Lee movie set in wartime Shanghai.
 
2021-07-18 9:14:58 AM  
They promised to take it down After the Monsoon.
 
2021-07-18 9:15:44 AM  
Do people not realize how racist Japan is?

Google "burakumin". It's fun.
 
2021-07-18 9:16:16 AM  
I thought the tape loops reminding the athletes that their wives and girlfriends at home were cheating on them with other non-athletes was a bit much, though.
 
2021-07-18 9:18:07 AM  
Note that Japan has virtually zero immigration. You basically have to be Japanese to immigrate.  This isn't helping their demographics problem that has stalled their economy.
 
2021-07-18 9:21:48 AM  

NEDM: aagrajag: ranchguy: [qph.fs.quoracdn.net image 602x426]

Where's that from? It must be old; the Chinese is not only traditional, but also right-to-left. No one writes that way anymore.

That's from a Bruce Lee movie set in wartime Shanghai.


knew it looked familiar. I must have seen it.
 
2021-07-18 9:28:24 AM  

KarmicDisaster: Note that Japan has virtually zero immigration. You basically have to be Japanese to immigrate.  This isn't helping their demographics problem that has stalled their economy.


But at least they don't have an ISIS problem like France and Germany.
 
2021-07-18 9:35:57 AM  
Problems with Japan are temporary.

I've extrapolated current population trends and found that by 2154 their population will have shrunk enough they will be self-sufficient in terms of food production.  At that point they will likely close themselves off from the rest of the world.

By 3758 there will only be a single Japanese person left, presumably kept in great health by robots and with the island defended by giant mecha, or perhaps genetically engineered kaiju.

I would anticipate that by 3800 we will just have to wait for the mecha power supplies to fail and then we can reclaim the real estate.
 
2021-07-18 9:39:25 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Problems with Japan are temporary.

I've extrapolated current population trends and found that by 2154 their population will have shrunk enough they will be self-sufficient in terms of food production.  At that point they will likely close themselves off from the rest of the world.

By 3758 there will only be a single Japanese person left, presumably kept in great health by robots and with the island defended by giant mecha, or perhaps genetically engineered kaiju.

I would anticipate that by 3800 we will just have to wait for the mecha power supplies to fail and then we can reclaim the real estate.


Assuming their mecha and/or kaiju haven't conquered the world by then.
 
2021-07-18 9:40:22 AM  

ModernLuddite: Do people not realize how racist Japan is?

Google "burakumin". It's fun.


A lot of people dont. Look at  any thread on here about a racist incident in another country.  People express shock that it happens outside the US.
 
2021-07-18 9:41:01 AM  
In my work I get to interact with people from a lot of different places. Japanese people by far are the most polite and decent people I get to deal with.

Some people just need things to complain about. I picture a bunch of Karens complaining about this.
 
2021-07-18 9:41:01 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Gordon Bennett: A quick image search shows this sentiment is not unique.

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2021-07-18 9:42:57 AM  

daffy: Why does this surprise anyone? The Japanese have always been like that. They were just being honest about it.


Yup.   Years ago a man who ran a law firm tried making a reservation at a Japanese restaurant in NJ just outside of NYC.   Every time this man would call the restaurant to make reservation he was told they were all booked.   This lawyer had a woman on staff who spoke Japanese, he had her call to make a reservation using a Japanese name.  The reservation was made immediately after months  of him trying to do it under his own name.  The lawyer filed a complaint with the state.   The response of the restaurant management was something like, "We don't allow non-Japanese into our restaurant because our Japanese customers are offended by eating habits of non-Japanese."
 
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