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7 days ago  
Didn't they all fly to DC on a chartered plane? Maskless? If one of them had it, it's not surprising more of have it.
 
7 days ago  
It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.
 
7 days ago  
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I hope they shared a pretzel with Manchin...
 
6 days ago  
Funny thing. To the extent that these asymptomatic breakthrough infections become common, they function quite a bit like booster shots specific to the prevailing strains of SARS-CoV-2. Weird how that works. They get to develop new specific antibodies to the variant strain as their primed immune systems protect them from suffering actual disease symptoms.

It's like the vaccinated people will generally gain extra protection if they did the responsible thing up front and got the vaccination based on the original viral genotype. Funny how that works out.
 
6 days ago  
Well, they're Texans first...
 
6 days ago  

edmo: Well, they're Texans first...


I was going to post something more insulting, but this works.

OK, I can't help myself.

What do you call a 21st century texan POTUS?
A dumbf*cking mass murderer.

Ah ha ha ha.  I got a million of them.
 
6 days ago  
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Sure sounds like highly effective protection to me.
 
6 days ago  

solokumba: It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.


It's time for boosters.
 
6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: [Fark user image image 425x212]

Sure sounds like highly effective protection to me.


Local idiot says...
 
6 days ago  
Also,

If I were Director of the CDC or NIH and I wanted to hedge my bets on a 6th wave, I'd allow the 5th wave to passage through my vaccinated population in the hopes of securing a superior polyclonal response.  Such an action would probably be viewed as an atrocity by historians, and as a grievous violation of the 4th Amendment, but as said population is too farking stupid to put their masks back on without being threatened, it's not like they're going to figure it out unless I tell them.
 
6 days ago  
They say they are fully vaccinated. But that brings up questions:
What vaccine did they use?
The fact that 3 got it is a very high breakthrough percentage for a small group of people.
So what the heck is really going on?
 
6 days ago  
"This is a sober reminder that COVID is still with us, and though vaccinations offer tremendous protection, we still must take necessary precautions

This is a sober reminder that Texas Democrats are still perfectly capable of being reckless antivaxx pieces of shiat
 
6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: solokumba: It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.

It's time for boosters.


Not boosters, a new shot against the new spike protein. The protection given by existing mrna vaccines was good enough to exterminate all other strains, but we need a new dose that encodes the delta spike.

If any of the ancestral strain had been in circulation, the current vaccine (based on titers) would have actually been even better than 96% effective. Quite possibly between 98 and 99.

Tests found that mrna tailored to B.1.351 e.g. were >97% effective in South Africa.
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: They say they are fully vaccinated. But that brings up questions:
What vaccine did they use?
The fact that 3 got it is a very high breakthrough percentage for a small group of people.
So what the heck is really going on?


You missed ...

Are they symptomatic?
Are they seriously ill?
Have they proven they've been vaccinated?
Does the test they took distinguish between infected and vaccinated?
 
6 days ago  
Oh no, now the Texas Dems will have to quarantine in Washington and can't travel back to their special session!
 
6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: [Fark user image 425x212]

Sure sounds like highly effective protection to me.


Do you know how vaccines work, trumpist stain?
 
6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: solokumba: It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.

It's time for boosters.


Do you know how T cells and B cells work, trumpist stain?
 
6 days ago  

erik-k: backhand.slap.of.reason: solokumba: It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.

It's time for boosters.

Not boosters, a new shot against the new spike protein. The protection given by existing mrna vaccines was good enough to exterminate all other strains, but we need a new dose that encodes the delta spike.

If any of the ancestral strain had been in circulation, the current vaccine (based on titers) would have actually been even better than 96% effective. Quite possibly between 98 and 99.

Tests found that mrna tailored to B.1.351 e.g. were >97% effective in South Africa.


Sure.  But for now the First Vaxed have low titers and ModeRNA's numbers are looking great against 2 out of 3 Delta forks.  Pfizer and AZ have tanked.

ModeRNA boosters are our best option for immediate action.
 
6 days ago  

Kazan: backhand.slap.of.reason: solokumba: It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.

It's time for boosters.

Do you know how T cells and B cells work, trumpist stain?


Why don't you tell us.  Go on, we are waiting.
 
6 days ago  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: KodosZardoz: They say they are fully vaccinated. But that brings up questions:
What vaccine did they use?
The fact that 3 got it is a very high breakthrough percentage for a small group of people.
So what the heck is really going on?

You missed ...

Are they symptomatic?
Are they seriously ill?
Have they proven they've been vaccinated?
Does the test they took distinguish between infected and vaccinated?


Yep. All great questions that crossed my mind. I just got tired of typing. Lol
 
6 days ago  
Oh that sucks. They tested positive for COVID but were vaccinated. How many were hospitalized and put on ventilators?

None?

Listen up you unvaccinated assholes, we are carrying. We are going to share this with you. We're going to mask up because you refuse to do so and you are going to get it. Get the vaccine and wear a goddamn mask. You assholes
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: KodosZardoz: They say they are fully vaccinated. But that brings up questions:
What vaccine did they use?
The fact that 3 got it is a very high breakthrough percentage for a small group of people.
So what the heck is really going on?

You missed ...

Are they symptomatic?
Are they seriously ill?
Have they proven they've been vaccinated?
Does the test they took distinguish between infected and vaccinated?

Yep. All great questions that crossed my mind. I just got tired of typing. Lol


And I'm really high so I forgot.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: KodosZardoz: They say they are fully vaccinated. But that brings up questions:
What vaccine did they use?
The fact that 3 got it is a very high breakthrough percentage for a small group of people.
So what the heck is really going on?

You missed ...

Are they symptomatic?
Are they seriously ill?
Have they proven they've been vaccinated?
Does the test they took distinguish between infected and vaccinated?

Yep. All great questions that crossed my mind. I just got tired of typing. Lol


Breakthrough Long Covid is definitely a thing, though rates are unknown.  The NIH and CDC do a really shiatty job acknowledging Long Covid, and refer to it as a post-viral syndrome when at least 1/3rd of cases are clearly suffering from viral persistence.  Long Covid is not tethered to disease severity.  There are longhaulers that were never even aware they had Covid and only found out SARS-CoV-2 was responsible for their mystery illness when nucleocapsid antibody tests became available.
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: They say they are fully vaccinated. But that brings up questions:
What vaccine did they use?
The fact that 3 got it is a very high breakthrough percentage for a small group of people.
So what the heck is really going on?


I dunno about these goons, but as of last night I have six people in my social orbit who are down with delta. All six were fully vaccinated. 20s-40s. America and Germany. Different vaccines. Not just "positive". Sick.

There are much better off having been vaccinated of course, but this variant is *aggressive*. The Bafflerette and I changed a lot of plans for the year after hearing from these folks. Cases are rising again in a lot of places and vaccination rates are slowing down. Stay safe, farkers.

Oh, this is from the UAMS:

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6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Kazan: backhand.slap.of.reason: solokumba: It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.

It's time for boosters.

Do you know how T cells and B cells work, trumpist stain?

Why don't you tell us.  Go on, we are waiting.


Memory T and Memory B cells remember viruses you've been exposed to, and that's what gives you long term immunity.

Do you really think you have active antibodies in your blood from the TDAP vaccine after 6 months (hint: no). 

Active antibodies are a short term response.  the memory cells of the immune system are able to trigger rapid production of antibodies for viruses your immune system recognizes when the need arises again.
 
6 days ago  
I had two concerts I was going to in October. One is already rescheduled for November next year.

I swear to god, if the other slips through my fingers again, I will start dive tackling people and giving them the shot myself.

/front row orchestra seats to Wardruna, delayed to next year
//VIP PM5K still currently happening, but...
///Nightwish in Amsterdam last year went up in flames, lost all the money spent
 
6 days ago  

TorpedoOrca: Oh that sucks. They tested positive for COVID but were vaccinated. How many were hospitalized and put on ventilators?

None?

Listen up you unvaccinated assholes, we are carrying. We are going to share this with you. We're going to mask up because you refuse to do so and you are going to get it. Get the vaccine and wear a goddamn mask. You assholes


That generally takes 10 to 14 days.  First the host needs to seroconvert, and then complement has to chop the virus up in just the right way that fragments interact with VWF and AdamTS13.

But, since you want to know the odds, India says that 10% of AZ breakthrough cases will require hospitalization.  Given that Covid outcomes are heavily dependent upon inoculum titer, rates may be different in the United States.
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: They say they are fully vaccinated. But that brings up questions:
What vaccine did they use?
The fact that 3 got it is a very high breakthrough percentage for a small group of people.
So what the heck is really going on?


So you don't know how percentages actually work
 
6 days ago  

BafflerMeal: All six were fully vaccinated.



Which vaccine?

This is effectiveness data vs Delta 

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/​1​414353013817319428/photo/1

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6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: solokumba: It's on the rise again. Time to start mandates again. Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Tell your family and friends that are being covidiots to get over themselves.

It's time for boosters.


How would that help specifically?
 
6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: [Fark user image 425x212]

Sure sounds like highly effective protection to me.


The vaccine's effectiveness was always based on preventing symptoms, severe illness, hospitalizations, and death. They have performed very well in this regard.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
Motherfark, those upticks are unsettling.

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6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Also,

If I were Director of the CDC or NIH and I wanted to hedge my bets on a 6th wave, I'd allow the 5th wave to passage through my vaccinated population in the hopes of securing a superior polyclonal response.  Such an action would probably be viewed as an atrocity by historians, and as a grievous violation of the 4th Amendment, but as said population is too farking stupid to put their masks back on without being threatened, it's not like they're going to figure it out unless I tell them.


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6 days ago  

Kazan: BafflerMeal: All six were fully vaccinated.


Which vaccine?

This is effectiveness data vs Delta 

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1​414353013817319428/photo/1

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That's the fun thing. You can be fully vaccinated, show no to minimal symptoms and still be a carrier. This is how we get viral mutations

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6 days ago  

Alien Robot: [Fark user image image 850x786]


Oh look, the trump worshiper is hoping people die from what he spent most of the last year calling a hoax that was only meant to make his "Christ in the flesh" look bad.

How shocking...
 
6 days ago  

liquidsiphon: backhand.slap.of.reason: Also,

If I were Director of the CDC or NIH and I wanted to hedge my bets on a 6th wave, I'd allow the 5th wave to passage through my vaccinated population in the hopes of securing a superior polyclonal response.  Such an action would probably be viewed as an atrocity by historians, and as a grievous violation of the 4th Amendment, but as said population is too farking stupid to put their masks back on without being threatened, it's not like they're going to figure it out unless I tell them.

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Help me out. How does the 4th amendment apply to any of whatever the fark you're saying? Am I totally missing something?
 
6 days ago  
I just gotta ask, how or why were they not vaccinated already?
 
6 days ago  

Alien Robot: [Fark user image 850x786]


COVID19 isn't the only health threat these people face.

/ Put down the fork.
 
6 days ago  

HerptheDerp: I just gotta ask, how or why were they not vaccinated already?


Nevermind, they were vaccinated, great, just great, I wasn't aware that strains were already breaking through the vaccination. That's just wonderful, we've successfully half assed things enough to help mutate an even more deadly strain.

Great farking job.

Just great.
 
6 days ago  

Epicedion: Motherfark, those upticks are unsettling.

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filthy plebs

/hey only the unvaxt r dying
 
6 days ago  

TorpedoOrca: Kazan: BafflerMeal: All six were fully vaccinated.


Which vaccine?

This is effectiveness data vs Delta 

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1​414353013817319428/photo/1

[Fark user image image 850x410]

That's the fun thing. You can be fully vaccinated, show no to minimal symptoms and still be a carrier. This is how we get viral mutations

[Fark user image 425x281]


https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-​1​9-vaccine/news/20210702/study-says-vac​cinated-people-who-get-covid-carry-les​s-virus

https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci​-​vaccinated-people-less-likely-to-sprea​d-covid-2021-7
 
6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: [Fark user image image 425x212]

Sure sounds like highly effective protection to me.


Tell me you don't understand how vaccines work without saying it.
 
6 days ago  
Would being vaccinated cause you to test positive?  I mean, if you aren't producing antibodies to COVID-19 the vaccine isn't doing its job, and this particular one works by making your body produce proteins specific to COVID-19.

Supposedly the TB vaccine makes you test positive for TB.
 
6 days ago  

Iczer: Oh no, now the Texas Dems will have to quarantine in Washington and can't travel back to their special session!


My thoughts exactly. Also, what would happen if they all tragically misplaced their identification? They wouldn't be able to board a flight. They also wouldn't be allowed on any commercial ground transportation, or even to rent a car. I guess they're just not gonna make it back to Texas, since the IDs we're told that are so easy to get will require jumping through multiple hoops and a few weeks before they can get a replacement.
 
6 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Also,

If I were Director of the CDC or NIH and I wanted to hedge my bets on a 6th wave, I'd allow the 5th wave to passage through my vaccinated population in the hopes of securing a superior polyclonal response.  Such an action would probably be viewed as an atrocity by historians, and as a grievous violation of the 4th Amendment, but as said population is too farking stupid to put their masks back on without being threatened, it's not like they're going to figure it out unless I tell them.


Federal judge already ruled that CDC has no authority to do anything more than advise the government.

They already are as ineffective as you want them to be. Red states and districts will swing purple over this through deaths among the unvaccinated. I doubt Missouri or Arkansas can lose enough to change much politically but Wisconsin, Arizona, Florida and Texas sure can.
 
6 days ago  

flondrix: Would being vaccinated cause you to test positive?  I mean, if you aren't producing antibodies to COVID-19 the vaccine isn't doing its job, and this particular one works by making your body produce proteins specific to COVID-19.

Supposedly the TB vaccine makes you test positive for TB.


PCR tests look for viral DNA, not DNA antibodies.
 
6 days ago  
not viral antibodies* derp
 
6 days ago  
I'm not believing any anecdotal stories of vaccinated people getting sick with Covid.
 
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