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(NYPost)   AOC stands in solidarity with the Cuba protesters, breaks her silence and calls for an end to the US's "cruel" embargo   (nypost.com) divider line
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2021-07-16 12:28:59 PM  
Straight from the NYPost's flatulating butthole.

Thanks, assmitter!
 
2021-07-16 12:34:07 PM  
It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02
 
2021-07-16 12:36:43 PM  
What purpose does the embargo serve?
 
2021-07-16 12:39:54 PM  

SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02


Hell we get along with Vietnam!

optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?


It keeps a certain segment of Cuban Americans happy?
 
2021-07-16 12:41:46 PM  
Canadian and Spanish companies already bought up the good beachfront properties a few decades ago. The embargo did keep Americans from profiting on Cuba. Now that wet feet dry asylum rules are gone and Cubans have the same immigration rights as of countries in the area it is time to change the embargo rules.
 
2021-07-16 12:50:16 PM  

BizarreMan: SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02

Hell we get along with Vietnam!

optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?

It keeps a certain segment of Cuban Americans happy?


You're forgetting the cruelty
 
2021-07-16 12:53:54 PM  
It was instituted at the behest of Cubans who fled back in the 50's and wanted to punish Castro, and now both sides of Congress are afraid to do anything for fear they'll piss off the Cuban voting bloc.
 
2021-07-16 1:02:48 PM  

oldernell: It was instituted at the behest of Cubans who fled back in the 50's and wanted to punish Castro, and now both sides of Congress are afraid to do anything for fear they'll piss off the Cuban voting bloc.


I get that the Cuban voting block is important in Florida, and therefore of outsized importance because of its swing state status, but really...how large can that be?? It is not worth ostracizing and punishing the Cuban people for a dictator who died years ago, and became irrelevant decades before that.
 
2021-07-16 1:13:41 PM  

meehaw: oldernell: It was instituted at the behest of Cubans who fled back in the 50's and wanted to punish Castro, and now both sides of Congress are afraid to do anything for fear they'll piss off the Cuban voting bloc.

I get that the Cuban voting block is important in Florida, and therefore of outsized importance because of its swing state status, but really...how large can that be?? It is not worth ostracizing and punishing the Cuban people for a dictator who died years ago, and became irrelevant decades before that.


Is Florida really still a swing state though?
 
2021-07-16 1:13:43 PM  

optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?


Capitalism.
 
2021-07-16 1:13:49 PM  
"Breaks her silence?" When the fark has AOC ever been known to hold back?
 
2021-07-16 1:13:59 PM  
What, the Hero tag was resting?
 
2021-07-16 1:15:11 PM  

SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02


It's still a pain in the dick to order anything directly from Japan, so I don't think they're necessarily over it.
 
2021-07-16 1:15:26 PM  

SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02


not getting over wars is our heritage
 
2021-07-16 1:15:36 PM  

optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?


It was enacted by Trump, so it must be good and serve a purpose. Otherwise, Joe Biden would have gotten rid of it long ago.
 
2021-07-16 1:16:21 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: meehaw: oldernell: It was instituted at the behest of Cubans who fled back in the 50's and wanted to punish Castro, and now both sides of Congress are afraid to do anything for fear they'll piss off the Cuban voting bloc.

I get that the Cuban voting block is important in Florida, and therefore of outsized importance because of its swing state status, but really...how large can that be?? It is not worth ostracizing and punishing the Cuban people for a dictator who died years ago, and became irrelevant decades before that.

Is Florida really still a swing state though?


I've heard it's definitely a Swinger State.
 
2021-07-16 1:17:21 PM  
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2021-07-16 1:18:23 PM  

Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]


Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.
 
2021-07-16 1:18:50 PM  
Ending the embargo should have happened a while ago. America's devotion to the remnants of the Batista dictatorship needs to be excised.
 
2021-07-16 1:18:50 PM  

SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02


Hey, the Wii was a amazing seller and while the Wii-U bombed, the Switch has taken off so I think Japan is doing fine. Why did you bring up Germany?

No need to rehash the console wars.
 
2021-07-16 1:18:57 PM  
I have a hard time trusting the word of a woman who had the audacity to dance in a video in college.
 
2021-07-16 1:18:57 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?

Capitalism.


Restricting trade and immigration is literally the opposite of capitalism.

What everyone is arguing here is that blocking people from accessing the global market is cruel... and they're correct! Because markets and property rights are generally good things, and they tend to raise the standard of living for all parties involved.

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2021-07-16 1:18:58 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: meehaw: oldernell: It was instituted at the behest of Cubans who fled back in the 50's and wanted to punish Castro, and now both sides of Congress are afraid to do anything for fear they'll piss off the Cuban voting bloc.

I get that the Cuban voting block is important in Florida, and therefore of outsized importance because of its swing state status, but really...how large can that be?? It is not worth ostracizing and punishing the Cuban people for a dictator who died years ago, and became irrelevant decades before that.

Is Florida really still a swing state though?


I suppose it's debatable.  It's always listed as a "must win" in most polls.

Frankly, I think I'm ready to let Florida join Cuba. I mean, the de facto dictators that live in the state sure seem to love Russia...it's almost as if they are both (Trump and DeSantis) are courting Putin's strong, sensual arms.
 
2021-07-16 1:20:32 PM  
The Communists need to step down -- the US needs to stop with the blockade.

Seems like a simple and reasonable transaction that would help both the country and the Cuban people rise, again.
 
2021-07-16 1:20:38 PM  

misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.


Well if it makes you feel better he's also in the company of JFK and Ike Eisenhower
 
2021-07-16 1:20:47 PM  

SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02


The only reason we can't is that the Florida Cubanos want to punish the country, and especially the Castro family. Don't listen to their bullshiat lies about it totes being for the communizms, soshulizms, or human rights. Those same Cubanos (Every... Single... One... Of... Them) will buy Chinese made shiat non-stop at Chinese Wall-mart and Commie Club. China. You know that communist country that literally runs it own protesting citizens with tanks on live TV.

Those spite filled Cubanos are the only reason we have an embargo with Cuba today.
 
2021-07-16 1:20:49 PM  

anjin-san: AdmirableSnackbar: optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?

Capitalism.

Restricting trade and immigration is literally the opposite of capitalism.

What everyone is arguing here is that blocking people from accessing the global market is cruel... and they're correct! Because markets and property rights are generally good things, and they tend to raise the standard of living for all parties involved.

[Fark user image 850x599]


American capitalism requires punishment of everyone who isn't capitalist. Or American.
 
2021-07-16 1:20:58 PM  

BizarreMan: It keeps a certain segment of Cuban Americans happy?


I really hate this. Cuba is not some magically great place, but the amount of personal resentment that fuels our relationship with them is insane.
 
2021-07-16 1:21:22 PM  

optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?


Boomers remember being children and being super scared during the Missile Crisis, which is understandable.  As a result though, they really want to have Cuba punished for that bad week they suffered, every time Cuba is brought up, and they are not going to forget that experience, and they are gonna want Cuba to be punished for it.  That's white older conservatives.

Cuban conservatives want their island back, and they were promised that the embargo would do so.  There is no evidence that this will work, and a lot of evidence that it is not working, but these people have never had a viable alternative plan laid out before them, especially one that appeals to their machismo, so they will not allow the embargos to go away.

Young conservatives are told by their elders that the embargos are necessary, and the bible tells them to always listen to their elders.  This does apply if their elders are Bernie Sanders or some other socialist though.
 
2021-07-16 1:21:28 PM  
SOMEBODY ASK HER IF BERNIES PRESIDENT
 
2021-07-16 1:22:09 PM  

meehaw: I suppose it's debatable.  It's always listed as a "must win" in most polls.


Because a lot of news people would rather sit in Florida then Minnesota in Winter.
 
2021-07-16 1:23:02 PM  

Headso: misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.

Well if it makes you feel better he's also in the company of JFK and Ike Eisenhower


The founders of the Vietnam War?

Thanks, I feel so much better.
 
2021-07-16 1:23:22 PM  

SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02


Japan and Germany surrendered - unconditionally.

The Cubans have done anything but surrender -- not that that justifies a 60 year economic blockade.
 
2021-07-16 1:23:52 PM  

Palined Parenthood: SOMEBODY ASK HER IF BERNIES PRESIDENT


I'd ask but my wife doesn't want me talking to other very smart and beautiful women.
 
2021-07-16 1:24:14 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: anjin-san: AdmirableSnackbar: optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?

Capitalism.

Restricting trade and immigration is literally the opposite of capitalism.

What everyone is arguing here is that blocking people from accessing the global market is cruel... and they're correct! Because markets and property rights are generally good things, and they tend to raise the standard of living for all parties involved.

[Fark user image 850x599]

American capitalism requires punishment of everyone who isn't capitalist. Or American.


If that were the case we wouldn't trade with China, or half dozen other countries. We're punishing Cuba because of a bunch of spiteful former residents (and their descendants in some cases) still pissed at Castro. They don't care if they indirectly (through the embargo) caused the death of half the island, as long as it punishes a Castro, and anyone else they dislike, but especially a Castro.
 
2021-07-16 1:24:18 PM  

misanthropicsob: Headso: misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.

Well if it makes you feel better he's also in the company of JFK and Ike Eisenhower

The founders of the Vietnam War?

Thanks, I feel so much better.


ok..ok... Carter and Reagan
 
2021-07-16 1:24:27 PM  
There are also domestic business concerns.  And the fear of medical tourism.  Cuba has some very, VERY nice hospitals (for rich people who can pay, despite the communism) and a lot of Florida richers would find the price to be right.  Imagine America having to treat their medical industry and records as legitimate.
 
2021-07-16 1:25:06 PM  

Headso: misanthropicsob: Headso: misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.

Well if it makes you feel better he's also in the company of JFK and Ike Eisenhower

The founders of the Vietnam War?

Thanks, I feel so much better.

ok..ok... Carter and Reagan


Hahahaha.
 
2021-07-16 1:25:11 PM  

Palined Parenthood: SOMEBODY ASK HER IF BERNIES PRESIDENT


mmmm... presidential sauce
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2021-07-16 1:25:21 PM  

inglixthemad: If that were the case we wouldn't trade with China, or half dozen other countries.


It's in American capitalism's best interest to trade with them, though.
 
2021-07-16 1:26:04 PM  

anjin-san: AdmirableSnackbar: optikeye: What purpose does the embargo serve?

Capitalism.

Restricting trade and immigration is literally the opposite of capitalism.

What everyone is arguing here is that blocking people from accessing the global market is cruel... and they're correct! Because markets and property rights are generally good things, and they tend to raise the standard of living for all parties involved.

[Fark user image 850x599]


That chart is horrible though.

It mentions "number of people" but it's a percentage. The "number" of people living in extreme poverty is higher than it was 200 years ago.
 
2021-07-16 1:26:09 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: meehaw: oldernell: It was instituted at the behest of Cubans who fled back in the 50's and wanted to punish Castro, and now both sides of Congress are afraid to do anything for fear they'll piss off the Cuban voting bloc.

I get that the Cuban voting block is important in Florida, and therefore of outsized importance because of its swing state status, but really...how large can that be?? It is not worth ostracizing and punishing the Cuban people for a dictator who died years ago, and became irrelevant decades before that.

Is Florida really still a swing state though?


"Is Florida really still a swing state though?"

Perhaps not after 2022 with their new voter suppression bill -- but otherwise, yes -- any state where a party wins by 2% is most certainly a "swing state"
 
2021-07-16 1:26:44 PM  

misanthropicsob: Headso: misanthropicsob: Headso: misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.

Well if it makes you feel better he's also in the company of JFK and Ike Eisenhower

The founders of the Vietnam War?

Thanks, I feel so much better.

ok..ok... Carter and Reagan

Hahahaha.


Alright.... Bill Clinton and Nixon
 
2021-07-16 1:26:54 PM  
Embargoes are like Taxes only opposite.  Once they're in place, you don't want to be know as the "Guy who lowered the embargo that caused an immigrant from there to come to our peaceful nation and steal shoe laces from Costco."

Dear Mum theorized the Muriel Boatlift was Cuba's invasion and our nation was doomed.  Doomed!  Crazy Cubans.  Murderous Cubans.  Crazy Murderous Cubans.  Murderous Crazy Cubans.  Crazy Crazy Cubans.  Murderous, Murderous Cubans.  The list goes on and on and then stops back there.
 
2021-07-16 1:27:24 PM  

misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.


You say that like we don't already know he's a Neoliberal Capitalist and not a Progressive like AOC.
We voted against fascism, nobody expected some leftist revolution to happen overnight.

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2021-07-16 1:27:36 PM  

RasIanI: SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02

Japan and Germany surrendered - unconditionally.

The Cubans have done anything but surrender -- not that that justifies a 60 year economic blockade.


Blockade?
 
2021-07-16 1:28:10 PM  

Headso: misanthropicsob: Headso: misanthropicsob: Headso: misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.

Well if it makes you feel better he's also in the company of JFK and Ike Eisenhower

The founders of the Vietnam War?

Thanks, I feel so much better.

ok..ok... Carter and Reagan

Hahahaha.

Alright.... Bill Clinton and Nixon


Can we just say every president from JFK to George W Bush + Donald Trump?
 
2021-07-16 1:28:45 PM  

Mr_Katzchen: misanthropicsob: Glicky: [borgenmagazine.com image 850x406]

Yup. George W Bush, Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have the same foreign policy toward Cuba.

Such good company Joe Biden is in.

You say that like we don't already know he's a Neoliberal Capitalist and not a Progressive like AOC.
We voted against fascism, nobody expected some leftist revolution to happen overnight.

[64.media.tumblr.com image 540x230]


I expected him to undo Trump's racism at the bare minimum.
 
2021-07-16 1:29:13 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: inglixthemad: If that were the case we wouldn't trade with China, or half dozen other countries.

It's in American capitalism's best interest to trade with them, though.


The same would apply to Cuba, except it would piss off all those Cubanos who want to punish Castro, any Castro at this point. Obviously they also hate anyone on the island, since their arch nemesis is dead and they still hold the same opinion. They don't care if they kill half the island, the embargo must stay because: reasons.

Sure isn't because they care about human rights  / hate socialism / hate communism / or whatever bullshiat narrative they're trying to sell it with now. You'll see those same Cubanos buying Chinese communist made products non-stop.
 
2021-07-16 1:29:44 PM  

UltimaCS: SpectroBoy: It seems like if we can get along with Japan and Germany after WII it might be time to get over the missile crisis too.

Just my $0.02

It's still a pain in the dick to order anything directly from Japan, so I don't think they're necessarily over it.


I don't know..... Buying my Nissan wasn't any harder than buying my Ford.

Now let me know where I can get Cuban cigars in the US. K THX BYE
 
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