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2021-07-16 8:03:38 AM  
But coming soon, Law & Order: Dick Wolf's Revenge
 
2021-07-16 8:15:07 AM  

Russell_Secord: But coming soon, Law & Order: Dick Wolf's Revenge


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2021-07-16 8:36:16 AM  
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2021-07-16 8:57:15 AM  
Of course.  They can't portray public defenders sympathetically in the middle if their copaganda franchise.  Defense attorneys in the L&O universe can only ever be sleazy, underhanded, and barely better than criminals themselves, or the concept falls apart.
 
2021-07-16 9:03:18 AM  

Last Man on Earth: Of course.  They can't portray public defenders sympathetically in the middle if their copaganda franchise.  Defense attorneys in the L&O universe can only ever be sleazy, underhanded, and barely better than criminals themselves, or the concept falls apart.


Exactly this.
Wolf and his writers specifically shiat on public defenders whenever they present one.
 
2021-07-16 9:04:28 AM  
Oh and the new Stabler show is just garbage.
 
2021-07-16 9:30:18 AM  

Last Man on Earth: Of course.  They can't portray public defenders sympathetically in the middle if their copaganda franchise.  Defense attorneys in the L&O universe can only ever be sleazy, underhanded, and barely better than criminals themselves, or the concept falls apart.


IIRC there are at least half a dozen episodes of the original series where the defense attorney wound up on trial.
 
2021-07-16 11:05:41 AM  

Bslim: Last Man on Earth: Of course.  They can't portray public defenders sympathetically in the middle if their copaganda franchise.  Defense attorneys in the L&O universe can only ever be sleazy, underhanded, and barely better than criminals themselves, or the concept falls apart.

Exactly this.
Wolf and his writers specifically shiat on public defenders whenever they present one.


Ah but who could forget Stan Shatenstein?
 
2021-07-16 11:35:19 AM  
Bring back Bobby Goren!
 
2021-07-16 11:55:41 AM  
I'm still waiting for this one damnit...

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2021-07-16 12:28:44 PM  

Last Man on Earth: Of course.  They can't portray public defenders sympathetically in the middle if their copaganda franchise.  Defense attorneys in the L&O universe can only ever be sleazy, underhanded, and barely better than criminals themselves, or the concept falls apart.


I don't think the show falls apart when it portrays that.  Some of the better episodes are episodes that are driven by good defense attorneys.  You can make a few seasons worth of episodes with the defense attorneys that actors like Andre Braugher, Richard Brooks, Tovah Feldshuh, John Collum, etc portrayed.

The attorney Michael Kostroff portrays is basically his same character from the Wire, and is pure sleaze, but that's not the only type of attorney shown across the different shows.

I agree public defenders aren't treated well, but they aren't in real life, either.  Overworked and overwhelmed as portrayed for sure, but unfair that they're typically also shown as incompetent.

Anyways, give me a show helmed by Richard Brooks or Andre Braugher as a lead as a partner at a firm and I'd watch the hell out of that.  The actors drive the procedurals more than anything else(and there's no reason to believe that such a show wouldn't be a reworking of the procedural from a defense perspective)
 
2021-07-16 12:49:40 PM  
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2021-07-16 1:37:39 PM  

bhcompy: I agree public defenders aren't treated well, but they aren't in real life, either.  Overworked and overwhelmed as portrayed for sure, but unfair that they're typically also shown as incompetent.


What kind of attorney do you think takes a $50,000 public defender job?  Fresh out of law school, competent  with a supportive spouse, or completely incompetent.  Pretty much, if you get assigned an older male public defender, I'd start worrying.
 
2021-07-16 2:00:17 PM  

FLMountainMan: bhcompy: I agree public defenders aren't treated well, but they aren't in real life, either.  Overworked and overwhelmed as portrayed for sure, but unfair that they're typically also shown as incompetent.

What kind of attorney do you think takes a $50,000 public defender job?  Fresh out of law school, competent  with a supportive spouse, or completely incompetent.  Pretty much, if you get assigned an older male public defender, I'd start worrying.


Sure, but I think a public defender is more like a social worker in that regard.  People who are chronically underpaid idealists make up a large portion of the group
 
2021-07-16 2:20:27 PM  
So this means this season I won't be getting a new Law & Order show to go with the new CSI show and new NCIS show coming out. And sadly this isn't a joke.

It also means Dick Wolf won't be getting an all L&O night on NBC to go with his all Chicago night.
 
2021-07-16 2:21:17 PM  

blondambition: Bslim: Last Man on Earth: Of course.  They can't portray public defenders sympathetically in the middle if their copaganda franchise.  Defense attorneys in the L&O universe can only ever be sleazy, underhanded, and barely better than criminals themselves, or the concept falls apart.

Exactly this.
Wolf and his writers specifically shiat on public defenders whenever they present one.

Ah but who could forget Stan Shatenstein?


He was a one off, though. I would have gone with Danielle Melnick or Randy Dworkin.
 
2021-07-16 2:24:53 PM  

razyjean: blondambition: Bslim: Last Man on Earth: Of course.  They can't portray public defenders sympathetically in the middle if their copaganda franchise.  Defense attorneys in the L&O universe can only ever be sleazy, underhanded, and barely better than criminals themselves, or the concept falls apart.

Exactly this.
Wolf and his writers specifically shiat on public defenders whenever they present one.

Ah but who could forget Stan Shatenstein?

He was a one off, though. I would have gone with Danielle Melnick or Randy Dworkin.


Just realized we were talking about public defenders, not just defense attorneys. In that case, I always enjoyed watching Shambala Green Square off again Ben Stone.
 
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2021-07-16 8:11:40 PM  

Bslim: Oh and the new Stabler show is just garbage.


I disagree 100%. This is the first Law and Order show that is basically one long story arc. While other L and O shows have had character development and some mini-arcs (e.g. the William Lewis character 3-eps. arc with Olivia Benson), this is basically a single story and I love that. Throw in great supporting performances by the cast and it's perfect. Granted, you have to slog through the first two eps. but after that, it's terrific.
 
2021-07-17 10:15:09 AM  

FLMountainMan: bhcompy: I agree public defenders aren't treated well, but they aren't in real life, either.  Overworked and overwhelmed as portrayed for sure, but unfair that they're typically also shown as incompetent.

What kind of attorney do you think takes a $50,000 public defender job?  Fresh out of law school, competent  with a supportive spouse, or completely incompetent.  Pretty much, if you get assigned an older male public defender, I'd start worrying.


You would be surprised at the quality of some older male public defenders.  When I was in law school I interned at the PD's office. One of the PD's was so respected that when a couple of young ADA's were having their first trial, the asked the PD if he would come to the trial and critique them after. As the defendant had private representation, there was no conflict and the PD was glad to assist.
 
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