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2021-07-14 8:46:09 PM  
The government can't cover up a blow job. I doubt they can keep aliens under wraps for 50 years.
 
2021-07-14 8:53:17 PM  
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2021-07-14 9:06:36 PM  
Yeah, whatever. What's the deal with Bigfoot? Have you investigated that?
 
2021-07-14 9:16:10 PM  

Mugato: The government can't cover up a blow job. I doubt they can keep aliens under wraps for 50 years.


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Unfortunately for Bill, he met the aliens too late to cover up the BJ. But, early enough to cover up the child-sex-trafficking-baby-murdering-b​lood-drinking-palooza at Comet Ping Pong.

That is until an alien race of aliens showed up from the B14X galaxy. . .

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Does anyone seriously wonder why she "adopted" that alien?
 
2021-07-14 9:17:23 PM  

Mugato: The government can't cover up a blow job. I doubt they can keep aliens under wraps for 50 years.


This^^^^.
It is simply a matter of numbers. The number of people that would have to be involved over the years.
 
2021-07-14 10:04:10 PM  
It doesn't matter its from pilots. It's still fuzzy dots. It's no different than a polaroid in a field from farmer Ed in 1960.

They are essentially the same in the amount of information they provide. None.

It's just one camera costs way more.

This whole moving impossibly fast has never been caught on tape. The 80000ft to 100ft data has never been released. There is no video either. The go fast is parallax and the other one is just the camer panning out of viewas it loses lock.

Could it be something like this?

You have a bird in a tree 100ft in front of you. The bird flies out of the tree and decides to fly back into the tree. 60000ft away another bird flies out of the tree and back in. Is the sensor sensory enough to distinguish the two birds? Or does it see one bird flying at impossible speed to the location of the other tree? Both birds would have similar signatures. So is the software able to distinguish between the two birds or does it track it as one bird moving impossibly fast?
 
2021-07-14 10:08:11 PM  

GregoryD: It doesn't matter its from pilots. It's still fuzzy dots. It's no different than a polaroid in a field from farmer Ed in 1960.

They are essentially the same in the amount of information they provide. None.

It's just one camera costs way more.

This whole moving impossibly fast has never been caught on tape. The 80000ft to 100ft data has never been released. There is no video either. The go fast is parallax and the other one is just the camer panning out of viewas it loses lock.

Could it be something like this?

You have a bird in a tree 100ft in front of you. The bird flies out of the tree and decides to fly back into the tree. 60000ft away another bird flies out of the tree and back in. Is the sensor sensory enough to distinguish the two birds? Or does it see one bird flying at impossible speed to the location of the other tree? Both birds would have similar signatures. So is the software able to distinguish between the two birds or does it track it as one bird moving impossibly fast?


Dude, you're one of the people TFA warned about.
 
2021-07-14 10:46:29 PM  
I am sure the vast majority of UFO sighting have terrestrial and most likely surprisingly mundane explanation, like the one that are pretty obviously mylar party balloons that look like they're moving lickety-split but the parallax effect of a camera mounted on a supersonic jet gives the illusion they're moving fast. However, I do enjoy letting my imagination run wild and ponder "what ifs".

It's fun to imagine scenarios where we are somehow visited by aliens that are able to travel between stars and what their motives and technology might be, but at the end of the day I know it's just my imagination. Hell, I love to do that with just about everything I learn about, imagine ways in which this knowledge could be subverted by malicious players. But again, at the end of the day I know it's my imagination. Imagining conspiracies is a fun creative exercise and it can actually inspire some fun works of fiction.

When I see conspiracy theorists preaching their nonsense on Facebook I always think "I bet if this person's creativity was recognized soon and they were taught how to exploit their creativity they might be a talented writer, cartoonist, artist but instead this person's creativity was left to languish and in their desperation to satisfy that creative imagination they're getting high on their own supply instead of recognizing and taking ownership of their creative fictions they're going full on "true believer".

These guys create some pretty interesting stuff but they lack the confidence and training to be able to own their creativity and if we hadn't failed them in recognizing and guiding their creative energies they might be making some pretty good entertainment.

And then the other ones are just straight up con men who know it's all bullshiat but know they can make bullshiat pay for them.
 
2021-07-14 11:18:42 PM  
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2021-07-15 12:36:29 AM  
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2021-07-15 12:53:53 AM  
just the tip eh?
 
2021-07-15 1:06:22 AM  
Everyone has a UFO experience or two or three. The rational among us put it in the "I don't understand what that event was" memory bucket, and break it out around campfires. The irrational among us try to use that experience as a lens to read the news and listen to professionals. I don't begrudge someone who takes a vacation or buys a house in a place where they expect to see UFOs. Those are awesome fun ideas. I do begrudge people who think that the triangle lights they saw as a teenager are related to abductions and/or the placement of cell towers near old graveyards.
 
2021-07-15 1:42:53 AM  
When you've seen as many ufos as I have, you just stop believing in them.
 
2021-07-15 1:52:08 AM  
If you deny conspiracy you are part of conspiracy
/From TFA comments
 
2021-07-15 2:20:22 AM  

LewDux: If you deny conspiracy you are part of conspiracy
/From TFA comments


That's why I suspend judgement instead.
 
2021-07-15 2:27:02 AM  

GregoryD: It doesn't matter its from pilots. It's still fuzzy dots. It's no different than a polaroid in a field from farmer Ed in 1960.

They are essentially the same in the amount of information they provide. None.

It's just one camera costs way more.

This whole moving impossibly fast has never been caught on tape. The 80000ft to 100ft data has never been released. There is no video either. The go fast is parallax and the other one is just the camer panning out of viewas it loses lock.

Could it be something like this?

You have a bird in a tree 100ft in front of you. The bird flies out of the tree and decides to fly back into the tree. 60000ft away another bird flies out of the tree and back in. Is the sensor sensory enough to distinguish the two birds? Or does it see one bird flying at impossible speed to the location of the other tree? Both birds would have similar signatures. So is the software able to distinguish between the two birds or does it track it as one bird moving impossibly fast?


So, birds are aliens?
 
2021-07-15 3:41:50 AM  
lol remember when they released the docs that all the ufo stories where pretty much a cover to hide weapon test during the cold war .... ya that might be the answers as to why ufo's are a thing again since we going into another cold war.
 
2021-07-15 5:50:51 AM  
Governments cover up a lot of stuff.  I doubt that the existence of extraterrestrials is one of them.
 
2021-07-15 6:59:34 AM  

Mugato: The government can't cover up a blow job. I doubt they can keep aliens under wraps for 50 years.


They kept the fact that they were illegally spying on US citizens secret for 12 years.   So they've got that going for them, which is nice.
 
2021-07-15 7:15:46 AM  

bluewave69: lol remember when they released the docs that all the ufo stories where pretty much a cover to hide weapon test during the cold war .... ya that might be the answers as to why ufo's are a thing again since we going into another cold war.


I was unaware that we had stopped having one.

The Cold War vs. the USSR stopped when the Soviet Union collapsed, of course, but by then it had been replaced by a more subtle economic war against the United States by the People's Republic of China.   A war that they've mostly won.   And of course, once Vladimir Putin came to power in Russia, we got Cold War II: Electric Boogaloo.  A more comforting war, because it's one we actually won before, and we will win again.

The real threat, though, is China.   They spent the last 3 decades modernizing their industry and economically cheating like a motherfarker in order to drain manufacturing (especially high-tech manufacturing) from the United States to the Middle Kingdom.  And it's largely worked, and it was a strategically shrewd move.   How can you fight against someone who does all your manufacturing?  You'll run out of components for your smart bombs, fuel components for your missiles, medicines for your troops (and civilians), the list goes on and on.

Meanwhile, they've been steadily modernizing their military both in terms of equipment and doctrine.  The idea of the People's Liberation Army  only having "monkey model" Soviet-era equipment and crude local copies was largely true 30 years ago, but is true no longer.   The People's Liberation Army Navy has the World's largest fleet of Air-Independent Submarines (AIP), boats that are extremely quiet and have extended underwater endurance so they can patrol for weeks without having to snorkel.   They've got 2 operational carriers now, a new conventional CATOBAR carrier that will be launched relatively soon, and they've already started construction of their first nuclear supercarrier.

China is the threat to the US, not Russia.
 
2021-07-15 7:21:05 AM  

dittybopper: China is the threat to the US, not Russia.


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2021-07-15 7:39:39 AM  
In this universe, you are, says Cogswell, "showered with love," when you adhere to the right beliefs, "and then showered with hate when you go against the group," reinforcing a common and conformist [view]. Nothing ever bonded anyone better than being covalently downtrodden.

Said about UFOs or the Republican party?

Look, grouping up is kind of how life works. Grouping up on the Internet? It's a straight line to hell.
 
2021-07-15 7:54:11 AM  
Pictures and video aren't useful anymore anyway. Anyone with 20/month can get a copy of Photoshop and/or AfterEffects.
 
2021-07-15 8:41:54 AM  

Mugato: The government can't cover up a blow job. I doubt they can keep aliens under wraps for 50 years.


No
Those in the gov know they can use blow jobs to impeach presidents.

Since run amuck used car salesman capitalism brings out the best in people.
 
2021-07-15 8:46:55 AM  

Mugato: Pictures and video aren't useful anymore anyway. Anyone with 20/month can get a copy of Photoshop and/or AfterEffects.


It's been a couple of years since I've seen a competent fake.  Everything has been blurry and obvious.
 
2021-07-15 8:50:38 AM  

Jake Havechek: dittybopper: China is the threat to the US, not Russia.

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Just kidding, one cannot go against the word of Trump.
 
2021-07-15 8:52:03 AM  
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2021-07-15 8:52:34 AM  
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2021-07-15 8:56:51 AM  

haknudsen: It's been a couple of years since I've seen a competent fake. Everything has been blurry and obvious.


Well they didn't know what they were doing.
 
2021-07-15 9:09:09 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Everyone has a UFO experience or two or three. The rational among us put it in the "I don't understand what that event was" memory bucket, and break it out around campfires. The irrational among us try to use that experience as a lens to read the news and listen to professionals. I don't begrudge someone who takes a vacation or buys a house in a place where they expect to see UFOs. Those are awesome fun ideas. I do begrudge people who think that the triangle lights they saw as a teenager are related to abductions and/or the placement of cell towers near old graveyards.


I dont

But im smart enough to know we dont have that many pilots and plain joes on LSD over the last 70 years too.

10s of thousands of reports of unexplained flying objects carries some weight.

Occams razor
 
2021-07-15 9:09:43 AM  

Spice Must Flow: When you've seen as many ufos as I have, you just stop believing in them.


Space aliens dont believe in you either.
 
2021-07-15 9:10:48 AM  

LewDux: If you deny conspiracy you are part of conspiracy
/From TFA comments


Who ever said space aliens are conspiring for or against us??
 
2021-07-15 9:12:24 AM  

NoGodsButtMan: GregoryD: It doesn't matter its from pilots. It's still fuzzy dots. It's no different than a polaroid in a field from farmer Ed in 1960.

They are essentially the same in the amount of information they provide. None.

It's just one camera costs way more.

This whole moving impossibly fast has never been caught on tape. The 80000ft to 100ft data has never been released. There is no video either. The go fast is parallax and the other one is just the camer panning out of viewas it loses lock.

Could it be something like this?

You have a bird in a tree 100ft in front of you. The bird flies out of the tree and decides to fly back into the tree. 60000ft away another bird flies out of the tree and back in. Is the sensor sensory enough to distinguish the two birds? Or does it see one bird flying at impossible speed to the location of the other tree? Both birds would have similar signatures. So is the software able to distinguish between the two birds or does it track it as one bird moving impossibly fast?

So, birds are aliens?


If they can easily outfly our best fighter jets and shut down our nuke missils they are
 
2021-07-15 9:13:11 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: Governments cover up a lot of stuff.  I doubt that the existence of extraterrestrials is one of them.


You doubted wrong.  Time will prove that.
 
2021-07-15 9:14:35 AM  

dittybopper: bluewave69: lol remember when they released the docs that all the ufo stories where pretty much a cover to hide weapon test during the cold war .... ya that might be the answers as to why ufo's are a thing again since we going into another cold war.

I was unaware that we had stopped having one.

The Cold War vs. the USSR stopped when the Soviet Union collapsed, of course, but by then it had been replaced by a more subtle economic war against the United States by the People's Republic of China.   A war that they've mostly won.   And of course, once Vladimir Putin came to power in Russia, we got Cold War II: Electric Boogaloo.  A more comforting war, because it's one we actually won before, and we will win again.

The real threat, though, is China.   They spent the last 3 decades modernizing their industry and economically cheating like a motherfarker in order to drain manufacturing (especially high-tech manufacturing) from the United States to the Middle Kingdom.  And it's largely worked, and it was a strategically shrewd move.   How can you fight against someone who does all your manufacturing?  You'll run out of components for your smart bombs, fuel components for your missiles, medicines for your troops (and civilians), the list goes on and on.

Meanwhile, they've been steadily modernizing their military both in terms of equipment and doctrine.  The idea of the People's Liberation Army  only having "monkey model" Soviet-era equipment and crude local copies was largely true 30 years ago, but is true no longer.   The People's Liberation Army Navy has the World's largest fleet of Air-Independent Submarines (AIP), boats that are extremely quiet and have extended underwater endurance so they can patrol for weeks without having to snorkel.   They've got 2 operational carriers now, a new conventional CATOBAR carrier that will be launched relatively soon, and they've already started construction of their first nuclear supercarrier.

China is the threat to the US, not Russia.


Anyone who doesnt go along with USs version of the world is against us
 
2021-07-15 9:16:02 AM  

Mugato: Pictures and video aren't useful anymore anyway. Anyone with 20/month can get a copy of Photoshop and/or AfterEffects.


But not anyone can have their fighter jets move like bicycles compared to how these things move
 
2021-07-15 9:18:24 AM  

haknudsen: Mugato: Pictures and video aren't useful anymore anyway. Anyone with 20/month can get a copy of Photoshop and/or AfterEffects.

It's been a couple of years since I've seen a competent fake.  Everything has been blurry and obvious.


Including navy fighter pilot eyewitness accounts plus jet radar and ground radar.
And infrared radar
 
2021-07-15 9:19:47 AM  
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2021-07-15 9:32:43 AM  

dittybopper: bluewave69: lol remember when they released the docs that all the ufo stories where pretty much a cover to hide weapon test during the cold war .... ya that might be the answers as to why ufo's are a thing again since we going into another cold war.

I was unaware that we had stopped having one.

The Cold War vs. the USSR stopped when the Soviet Union collapsed, of course, but by then it had been replaced by a more subtle economic war against the United States by the People's Republic of China.   A war that they've mostly won.   And of course, once Vladimir Putin came to power in Russia, we got Cold War II: Electric Boogaloo.  A more comforting war, because it's one we actually won before, and we will win again.

The real threat, though, is China.   They spent the last 3 decades modernizing their industry and economically cheating like a motherfarker in order to drain manufacturing (especially high-tech manufacturing) from the United States to the Middle Kingdom.  And it's largely worked, and it was a strategically shrewd move.   How can you fight against someone who does all your manufacturing?  You'll run out of components for your smart bombs, fuel components for your missiles, medicines for your troops (and civilians), the list goes on and on.

Meanwhile, they've been steadily modernizing their military both in terms of equipment and doctrine.  The idea of the People's Liberation Army  only having "monkey model" Soviet-era equipment and crude local copies was largely true 30 years ago, but is true no longer.   The People's Liberation Army Navy has the World's largest fleet of Air-Independent Submarines (AIP), boats that are extremely quiet and have extended underwater endurance so they can patrol for weeks without having to snorkel.   They've got 2 operational carriers now, a new conventional CATOBAR carrier that will be launched relatively soon, and they've already started construction of their first nuclear supercarrier.

China is the threat to the US, not Russia.


China and the US are so economically linked these days that a war between us would be like a Siamese Twin trying to murder their sibling.
 
2021-07-15 9:41:09 AM  

Linux_Yes: Spice Must Flow: When you've seen as many ufos as I have, you just stop believing in them.

Space aliens dont believe in you either.


Is that why they stopped returning my calls?
Oh, Monday just never stopped this week.
 
2021-07-15 10:46:05 AM  
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2021-07-15 10:48:42 AM  

Spice Must Flow: When you've seen as many ufos as I have, you just stop believing in them.


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2021-07-15 11:04:09 AM  
People who think the government is even remotely capable of such a large and effective coverup have clearly never worked in a large government agency.  The root of their delusion is the fantasy that the government is even capable of that much control.
 
2021-07-15 11:31:09 AM  
Is this what Linux does to users?
 
2021-07-15 12:08:24 PM  

gnosis301: Is this what Linux does to users?


Not all of us, though admittedly I've only been using it for a couple weeks now.
 
2021-07-15 12:34:16 PM  
sigh.. guess we are going to have a repeat of this weeks earlier aliens thread. the same trolls / crazy people will make the same logically questionable arguments and lack of evidence and the same people will respond with counter arguments. No one's mind will be changed on either side.

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2021-07-15 2:04:10 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: gnosis301: Is this what Linux does to users?

Not all of us, though admittedly I've only been using it for a couple weeks now.


Give it 1 to 2 months and u will be thanking Jesus
 
2021-07-15 2:05:54 PM  

gnosis301: Is this what Linux does to users?


It provides Linux users with entertainment when they read abt ransomware attacks/payoffs.
 
2021-07-15 3:13:29 PM  

Linux_Yes: Spice Must Flow: When you've seen as many ufos as I have, you just stop believing in them.

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Now I'm skeptical of your assertion
 
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