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2021-07-14 10:35:00 AM  
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2021-07-14 11:06:19 AM  
And just how much longer did we need before they embraced us as liberators and begged to be the newest US territory? Two weeks?
 
2021-07-14 12:38:41 PM  
Did your Haliburton stock take a hit?
 
2021-07-14 12:58:01 PM  

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Exactly. Why would we stay when we wrapped it up years ago?
 
2021-07-14 1:25:54 PM  
You've been quiet for a long time, George. Keep it that way.
 
2021-07-14 1:26:01 PM  
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2021-07-14 1:28:11 PM  
war criminal says what?
 
2021-07-14 1:28:15 PM  
Remember when Dipshiat junior choked on a pretzel and had a large black eye from it?  good times.
 
2021-07-14 1:28:32 PM  
You're so close to being remembered fondly when compared to Donald Trump, don't fark it up now.
 
2021-07-14 1:28:38 PM  
There are plenty of people who can speak about the potential and likely dangers of leaving Afghanistan and what they could mean for our country.

The guy who diverted all our resources into a quagmire in Iraq to avenge his daddy's honor is most certainly not farking one of them.

Fark you, W.
 
2021-07-14 1:28:44 PM  
Oh well.   Can't win em all. Shucks
 
2021-07-14 1:29:23 PM  
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...he believed German Chancellor Angela Merkel "feels the same way."
I bet she still feels that cringe to this day, yes.
 
2021-07-14 1:29:28 PM  

JudgeSmails: Remember when Dipshiat junior choked on a pretzel and had a large black eye from it?  good times.


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2021-07-14 1:31:11 PM  
Shut the fark up, Shrub. Your opinion on this issue is neither warranted nor desired. Go back to clearing brush and painting.
 
2021-07-14 1:31:14 PM  
Here's W painting his truest desire....
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2021-07-14 1:32:22 PM  

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I see you, and raise....

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2021-07-14 1:33:24 PM  

JudgeSmails: Remember when Dipshiat junior choked on a pretzel and had a large black eye from it?  good times.


If karma existed he would have choked to death on that pretzel
 
2021-07-14 1:34:29 PM  
It's been 20 years. If the Afghans haven't figured it out by now...what makes you think that 4 more years might help? And they want us gone.
 
2021-07-14 1:35:12 PM  
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2021-07-14 1:35:50 PM  
There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, listen to George W. Bush once, shame on - shame on you. Listen to George W. Bush twice - you can't listen to George W. Bush once again.
 
2021-07-14 1:36:02 PM  

Weatherkiss: You're so close to being remembered fondly when compared to Donald Trump, don't fark it up now.


I remember when Vice Presidents didn't put up with any bullshiat.
 
2021-07-14 1:36:59 PM  
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2021-07-14 1:37:23 PM  
I don't have a ton of sympathy for the Afghans at this point. They've had twenty years to get a government going and come up with an alternative to the Taliban. Twenty years!  As has been pointed out, there are lots of fighters on both sides that weren't even born then.
 
2021-07-14 1:37:38 PM  
Well, those WMDs have to be around here somewhere.
 
2021-07-14 1:38:36 PM  
Why does it matter, Dotard told us he eliminated ISIS and probably other terrorist groups. Of course, like the border, they probably reformed after Jan 21 and all are now stronger than anyone would ever believe, people are telling me.
 
2021-07-14 1:39:39 PM  
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2021-07-14 1:41:13 PM  
Fark off you dunce.  You got us there, and in a perfect world your ass would have been impeached over the military failures you lied and manipulated to make happen.
 
2021-07-14 1:42:21 PM  

aleister_greynight: JudgeSmails: Remember when Dipshiat junior choked on a pretzel and had a large black eye from it?  good times.

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2021-07-14 1:46:16 PM  
So when exactly is it not going to be a mistake? At what point is the result going to be any different?
 
2021-07-14 1:46:44 PM  
He's welcome to his opinion, but since his Mom is dead, literally no one cares.
 
2021-07-14 1:46:53 PM  
Why don't we bundle up ol' Georgie and present him to the Afghan government as a gift?  Here you go, guys, all yours.
 
2021-07-14 1:46:56 PM  
I want Sam Rockwell to reprise his role as W but have it be the Texas Rangers years.
 
2021-07-14 1:48:30 PM  
The mistake was going in without an exit strategy.

Going into Iraq based on a faked threat and subsequent actions were war crimes.

This farker tried to normalize torture as a thing US soldiers did as a matter of course

Fark Dumbya and his opinions on this subject and double fark media who buy into his image rehabilitation crap.
 
2021-07-14 1:48:34 PM  
It's an unwinnable war, and a terrible tragedy. The rape, torture, and killings were going to leave to the common people there is unconscionable. Staying isn't the right thing either. Just an absolute tragedy. Sad beyond sad beyond sad.
 
2021-07-14 1:49:54 PM  

lolmao500: JudgeSmails: Remember when Dipshiat junior choked on a pretzel and had a large black eye from it?  good times.

If karma existed he would have choked to death on that pretzel


You think President Dick Cheney would have been better?
 
2021-07-14 1:50:08 PM  
Gosh, could it be a mistake on the level of refocusing our efforts away from rebuilding and unifying Afghanistan immediately in the wake of our success there to attacking an unrelated nation because of a personal vendetta? </sarcasm>
 
2021-07-14 1:50:34 PM  

quatchi: The mistake was going in without an exit strategy.

Going into Iraq based on a faked threat and subsequent actions were war crimes.

This farker tried to normalize torture as a thing US soldiers did as a matter of course

Fark Dumbya and his opinions on this subject and double fark media who buy into his image rehabilitation crap.


It was a mistake, period.  We didn't have to invade, technically Afghanistan didn't attack us, which also technically makes Article 50 inapplicable here.

Diplomacy should have been the only way given the complicated nature of the attack, who was involved, and what we wanted to accomplish.
 
2021-07-14 1:50:51 PM  

quatchi: The mistake was going in without an exit strategy.

Going into Iraq based on a faked threat and subsequent actions were war crimes.

This farker tried to normalize torture as a thing US soldiers did as a matter of course

Fark Dumbya and his opinions on this subject and double fark media who buy into his image rehabilitation crap.


The mistake was going in there without tangible victory conditions, and I pointed that out back when the farking war started. Not a single person could tell me what exactly would have to happen in Afghanistan in order for us to say we won and then leave, and if they could, the conditions were so fanciful and detached from reality that they had might as well have said nothing at all.
 
2021-07-14 1:51:32 PM  

aleister_greynight: JudgeSmails: Remember when Dipshiat junior choked on a pretzel and had a large black eye from it?  good times.

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Dodging that shoe might have been the most impressive thing he did during his eight years in office.
 
2021-07-14 1:52:26 PM  

Nah'mean: aleister_greynight: JudgeSmails: Remember when Dipshiat junior choked on a pretzel and had a large black eye from it?  good times.

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Dodging that shoe might have been the most impressive thing he did during his eight years in office.


I don't know, he signed the Do Not Call Registry. Which worked... for a little while anyway.
 
2021-07-14 1:53:07 PM  

ArkPanda: I don't have a ton of sympathy for the Afghans at this point. They've had twenty years to get a government going and come up with an alternative to the Taliban. Twenty years!  As has been pointed out, there are lots of fighters on both sides that weren't even born then.


Kind of hard to do when your country is a mega fundie shiathole.
 
2021-07-14 1:53:37 PM  
Broken clock, etc.

We failed. In every possible way. The Afghani government that we installed failed, in every possible way. The tradgy and horror that's about to befall the people of Afghanistan is a failure in every possible way. There is no winning here, no losing, and he's not wrong to point out the suffering that's going to come from it.

Yes, he's responsible for the suffering that's going to come from it, but I seem to recall that we've had a few presidents in the interim who didn't un-fark this either. This is going to be damn close to an internal genocide by the time the Taliban returns to power, and in less than a decade, we'll be back there dropping more bombs on it and killing more people because in the sandbox of the middle east, that's the only game we play.
 
2021-07-14 1:53:48 PM  
I know this will be unpopular here but he's right. You can't just leave an area with no support in a time of chaos. I mean, not unless it's New Orleans.
 
2021-07-14 1:55:05 PM  
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2021-07-14 1:55:09 PM  
If leaving is a mistake, how is staying better?  Is it better?  Look, this is a bad option and it will result in not good things, but what is the best path forward?  Sometimes, all the options on the table are less than optimal.  Naive optimists and suckers tend to believe that if they keep staring at the 5 bad options they have, then a 6th good one will magically appear.
 
2021-07-14 1:56:04 PM  

AkaranD: Broken clock, etc.

We failed. In every possible way. The Afghani government that we installed failed, in every possible way. The tradgy and horror that's about to befall the people of Afghanistan is a failure in every possible way. There is no winning here, no losing, and he's not wrong to point out the suffering that's going to come from it.

Yes, he's responsible for the suffering that's going to come from it, but I seem to recall that we've had a few presidents in the interim who didn't un-fark this either. This is going to be damn close to an internal genocide by the time the Taliban returns to power, and in less than a decade, we'll be back there dropping more bombs on it and killing more people because in the sandbox of the middle east, that's the only game we play.


And we've cultivated young 20-something year olds who lived their entire lives seeing our country fark up theirs, and will foster a lifetime of resentment towards us, ushering in a new era of potential terrorist attacks against us.
 
2021-07-14 1:57:29 PM  

ArkPanda: I don't have a ton of sympathy for the Afghans at this point. They've had twenty years to get a government going and come up with an alternative to the Taliban. Twenty years!  As has been pointed out, there are lots of fighters on both sides that weren't even born then.


Much of the problem is the idea that Afghanistan, as it sits on a map now, is any sort of meaningful boundary. Much like Iraq, it's basically borders drawn by others that makes little sense given any of the economic, ethnic, cultural, or infrastructure perspectives. None of that is a recipe for building a coherent nation state, which is why they've been ruled by strongmen or riven by civil conflict with little peaceful stability. Trying to take a place like that and expecting it to just get its shiat together was never going to work.

It also didn't help that most of what was invested in the country went into corrupt pockets and western companies, with very limited economic development for the average afghan despite enormous resources being spent. Much if what was given to them they just arent in a position to use. They got left Bagram but don't have the aircraft, people, training, experience, logistics, etc to use that facility to its maximum potential for example. They got left tons of trucks they can't use or can't maintain long term, etc.
 
2021-07-14 1:59:10 PM  
He's absolutely right.  It is and always was a humanitarian issue.
 
2021-07-14 1:59:15 PM  

whidbey: ArkPanda: I don't have a ton of sympathy for the Afghans at this point. They've had twenty years to get a government going and come up with an alternative to the Taliban. Twenty years!  As has been pointed out, there are lots of fighters on both sides that weren't even born then.

Kind of hard to do when your country is a mega fundie shiathole.


It's just a regular fundie shiathole, America has the mega fundies.
 
2021-07-14 1:59:50 PM  
But hey, old GW is good buddies with Michelle Obama, so all the "war crimes" and "manipulating national intelligence data to start a war" thing is totes cool now.    And besides, Trump came along and seized the "Worst Presnit of All Time (ALL TIME)" trophy, so everything is forgotten.

Right?

/ Not right
// Fark that guy and anyone that supported him
/// Tres
 
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