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2021-07-13 6:00:30 PM  
"The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.


The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.
 
2021-07-13 6:38:15 PM  
I want every Wisconsin state legislature who voted to give handouts to FoxConn to have to reimburse the state but we can't all get what we want, can we?
 
2021-07-13 7:45:47 PM  

ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.


Forget it Jake, it's Madison...

/When Wisconsin sends people to Congress they don't send their best
//They're sending people who have a lot of problems. Intellectual and ethical problems
///They're bringing unfair tax cuts, they're bringing crime, they bring grift. They're economic rapists.
 
2021-07-13 9:11:34 PM  
The party of small government

/and small minds
 
2021-07-13 9:53:58 PM  

ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.


No they haven't ruled it's the new town hall you clown. JFC this the new town hall/square shiat has become the new fire in a crowded theater.
 
2021-07-13 9:54:07 PM  
I've been told California is a hellhole overrun by antifa and liberals, with an unfriendly business environment that will surely drive these companies to ruin soon.  Maybe he should just wait it out, shouldn't be long now.
 
2021-07-13 9:54:11 PM  

hubiestubert: ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.

Forget it Jake, it's Madison...

/When Wisconsin sends people to Congress they don't send their best
//They're sending people who have a lot of problems. Intellectual and ethical problems
///They're bringing unfair tax cuts, they're bringing crime, they bring grift. They're economic rapists.


Offer excludes Tammy Baldwin who is awesome
 
2021-07-13 9:54:11 PM  
Yeah, good luck with that.

Much like prisons only getting harsher penalties because this nation loves cruelty, trying to restrict corporations in any way is also a thing that just doesn't happen in America, so, yeah not only is it blatantly against every basic idea of law in this nation (not that laws matter) but trying to restrict corporations is laughable on it's surface.

This isn't anything more than a wankfest to suck more orange knob.
 
2021-07-13 9:55:17 PM  
Some would argue the local bar is a town hall, but you start acting like an asshole, they will throw you out.
 
2021-07-13 9:57:30 PM  
The right wing is trying to turn "generic right wing politician" into a protected class. Then it will be "GQP party members" are the protected class, with everyone else an underclass. Then they start up the camps.

Right wingers are not good people, or good Americans, or really even decent human beings at all.
 
2021-07-13 9:59:11 PM  

ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.



I would also argue that banning voters from tweeting offensive memes at you violates our constitutional right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
 
2021-07-13 9:59:42 PM  
I can't wait until Stormfront and the Aryan Nation move all their propaganda production to Wisconsin, and I bet Julian Bradley can't wait either.

Group hugs!
 
2021-07-13 10:00:48 PM  
State Senator Julian Bradley when he finds out corporations tell politicians what to do, not the other way around:
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2021-07-13 10:02:19 PM  

ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.


It's a food product, essentially.
 
2021-07-13 10:04:15 PM  
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2021-07-13 10:04:19 PM  

Puglio: I would also argue that banning voters from tweeting offensive memes at you violates our constitutional right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


So...Twitter is as important as the US postal service when it comes to petitioning the government? I'm not sure I like where this argument is going.
 
2021-07-13 10:04:47 PM  
Seriously, how long is that crap going to go on?
 
2021-07-13 10:06:11 PM  
This makes sense and would be trivial to implement. Any public official who opts to "exempt" their messages from the platform's normal systems and processes is booted from the platform. It's a win for everyone involved.

At some point, you'd think that at least some of the Republican elected officials would familiarize themselves with this neat document we've got describing the powers of our government called the Constitution. Maybe if it gets slipped in with their bathroom reading material.

/1st slashie for 1st amendment
 
2021-07-13 10:06:54 PM  
Good luck, bud. I don't agree with you, but fight that fight.

You'll be fighting against actual billionaires, not to mention capitalism, and that pesky COTUS, but you do you.
 
2021-07-13 10:07:13 PM  
Ya, social media companies will block access to your state before they submit to ANY of those proposals.
 
2021-07-13 10:08:10 PM  
I'm on far too much booze to say anything outside of 'Sen. Bradley' eats crayons competitively.
 
2021-07-13 10:08:46 PM  
In the wake of former President Donald Trump being banned or indefinitely suspended from major social-media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter, a Wisconsin state senator has proposed a bill that would impose fines of up to $250,000 for platforms that prevent elected officials from using them.

Big Tech: "Cute"
 
2021-07-13 10:12:01 PM  
After complaining about protected classes for decades, Republicans decided they need to be one because their widdle fee fees got hurt.

Go figure.
 
2021-07-13 10:13:15 PM  
Clicks link to see if this person is a Republican...   But of course he is, and a first term one that probably never passed high school civics class to boot.
 
2021-07-13 10:14:01 PM  
How would they go about collecting anyway?
 
2021-07-13 10:15:00 PM  

ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.


Woah, woah, woah.  Slow down there.

Do you really expect a lawmaker to understand how laws work and the the constitution?

You're asking too much of the people we elect to write laws based on the framework of the constitution.
 
2021-07-13 10:15:48 PM  

not enough beer: ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.

No they haven't ruled it's the new town hall you clown. JFC this the new town hall/square shiat has become the new fire in a crowded theater.


Which has been bad law itself for nearly a century:
 
2021-07-13 10:16:29 PM  
Well, good to know the sanctimonious weasel brigade remembered WI. I was personally hoping the recount was the last of it, but I have been told I am an idort.
 
2021-07-13 10:16:32 PM  

RosevilleDan: Seriously, how long is that crap going to go on?


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2021-07-13 10:16:39 PM  

RosevilleDan: Seriously, how long is that crap going to go on?


Probably until the social media companies wise up and start lobbying these guys directly to stop writing laws targeting them that have no constitutional basis and will never hold up when challenged in court purely to get their names in the news cycle and score loyalty points with the fascist bosses because it will be more profitable not to.

We know they're only loyal to themselves and the dollar - would be pretty cheap for big companies to create some conflicts of self interest.

I'd suggest some anti-corruption enforcement and educating the voter base, but yeah, this is America.

George Carlin on who owns America
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2021-07-13 10:17:25 PM  
This is why I'm moving out-of-state.

Wisconsin made an abrupt, jarring dive into Red State Hellhole territory over the years I've lived here, and I'm beyond done with it.

Without the politics, it's a quirky-but-charming place, cozy even. But you can't ignore what this state's turning into. The first political party created for the specific purpose of furthering Trump's image and politics was created here.

I'm out. I don't want to be here when it finishes becoming Cold Mississippi.
 
2021-07-13 10:18:02 PM  

Shaggy_C: Puglio: I would also argue that banning voters from tweeting offensive memes at you violates our constitutional right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

So...Twitter is as important as the US postal service when it comes to petitioning the government? I'm not sure I like where this argument is going.



It's more a question of whether the fact alternatives exist is even relevant.

If they are allowed to block my Twitter, what assurance do I have they can't block my email, my phone number, or that they don't throw all my letters in the trash?

I can't visit the White House in person because that is unreasonable. The executive branch would not be unable to function if we could all do that.

But is there a compelling reason they should be able to block someone on Twitter? Because as far as I'm concerned, the burden is on the government to prove it.
 
2021-07-13 10:19:06 PM  
Every time you think they can't possibly get any goddamn dumber... 🤣
 
2021-07-13 10:22:00 PM  
The social media sites are not banning politicians from using them.  They are banning them for failing to abide by terms and conditions which said politicians agreed to to use such sites.

God, these people are clowning.  Like, Ronald McDonald on meth with oversized-even-for-clown-shoes clowning.
 
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2021-07-13 10:35:40 PM  

Mrtraveler01: In the wake of former President Donald Trump being banned or indefinitely suspended from major social-media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter, a Wisconsin state senator has proposed a bill that would impose fines of up to $250,000 for platforms that prevent elected officials from using them.

Big Tech: "Cute"


Heh.. they don't get to go out for lunch on Tuesdays for a month.
 
2021-07-13 10:41:31 PM  

not enough beer: ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.

No they haven't ruled it's the new town hall you clown. JFC this the new town hall/square shiat has become the new fire in a crowded theater.


Well, only kind of.

The only the only similarity they have is they're both misconstrued.

Only the people who want the town hall thing to be true or believe it because they were told by their preferred politicians/pundits that it was true.  And the majority if the pundits and politicians know it's bullshiat, but still spread it.

Yelling fire in a theater is commonly misconstrued  by a majority of populace, and is technically correct, but just more nuanced and not as cut and dry that people make it out to be.
 
2021-07-13 10:46:57 PM  
I want a public hanging for every politician who backed the false claim that the vote had been stolen so, what's your fuqing point asshole?
 
2021-07-13 10:54:29 PM  

austerity101: ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.

It's a food product, essentially.


And a floor wax.
 
2021-07-13 10:58:00 PM  

The Perineum Falcon: The social media sites are not banning politicians from using them.  They are banning them for failing to abide by terms and conditions which said politicians agreed to to use such sites.

God, these people are clowning.  Like, Ronald McDonald on meth with oversized-even-for-clown-shoes clowning.


Even if they were SCOTUS precedent is on their side. That Florida law got restrained real fast.
 
2021-07-13 11:01:16 PM  

hubiestubert: ArkAngel: "The courts have ruled, essentially, that social media is the new public town hall and some online speech is protected," The Center Square reported.
Bradley said he is using this same logic to say that social media platforms shouldn't be able to ban elected officials, no matter the language they use.

The judge ruled this because it was government officials banning their constituents from accessing official government pages. Government social media pages are operated using government equipments and funds so they must be public.

The First Amendment is a restriction on government, not Facebook or Twitter.

Forget it Jake, it's Madison...

/When Wisconsin sends people to Congress they don't send their best
//They're sending people who have a lot of problems. Intellectual and ethical problems
///They're bringing unfair tax cuts, they're bringing crime, they bring grift. They're economic rapists.


Madison isn't the rock you find these guys under.  This particular schmuck is my state Senator out of the southern Milwaukee suburbs.  Never thought I would see a bunch of Packer fans vote for a guy who roots for Washington.
 
2021-07-13 11:01:30 PM  

neongoats: The right wing is trying to turn "generic right wing politician" into a protected class. Then it will be "GQP party members" are the protected class, with everyone else an underclass. Then they start up the camps.

Right wingers are not good people, or good Americans, or really even decent human beings at all.


I'm waiting for the GQP to start referring to themselves as "The Party"
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2021-07-13 11:12:32 PM  
Wisconsin: BIG TEHC YOU DO WUT WE WANT OR PAY US MONEY

Big Tech: LOL WUT *click* NO MONEY *AND* NO SOCIAL MEDIAS FOR YOU

Wisconsin: NO NOT LIKE THAT

Seriously, do Wisconsin conturdatives actually believe this will work? I'm guessing that if "Big Tech" were to block Wisconsin IP addresses the moron brigade would believe they're being censored, but that leaves a solid 60% of the citizenry who might actually get pissy with their state government getting in the way of Caturday
 
2021-07-13 11:23:11 PM  
Wisconsin state senator wants 6-figure fines for social media platforms that ban politicians

ftfy: Wisconsin state senator demands corporate funding.
 
2021-07-13 11:23:19 PM  

bluejeansonfire: This is why I'm moving out-of-state.

Wisconsin made an abrupt, jarring dive into Red State Hellhole territory over the years I've lived here, and I'm beyond done with it.

Without the politics, it's a quirky-but-charming place, cozy even. But you can't ignore what this state's turning into. The first political party created for the specific purpose of furthering Trump's image and politics was created here.

I'm out. I don't want to be here when it finishes becoming Cold Mississippi.


WTF are you talking about? Statewide elections since 2018 have consistently gone Democrat (or liberal in the case of the state supreme court) and with different parties controlling the legislature and the Governor's office, redistricting will be significantly less gerrymandered than they were 10 years ago.

2018 Senator - Baldwin (D)
2018 Governor - Evers (D)
2018 Supreme Court - Dallet (lib)
2020 Supreme Court - Karofsky (lib)
 
2021-07-13 11:23:24 PM  
But but but free market.*


*except when we don't like it.
 
2021-07-13 11:23:49 PM  
Someone should tell dumbass if he doesn't want to use Facebook, he doesn't have to.  He's not required to be on it like 90% of russian bots seem to be.
 
2021-07-13 11:26:13 PM  

pheelix: bluejeansonfire: This is why I'm moving out-of-state.

Wisconsin made an abrupt, jarring dive into Red State Hellhole territory over the years I've lived here, and I'm beyond done with it.

Without the politics, it's a quirky-but-charming place, cozy even. But you can't ignore what this state's turning into. The first political party created for the specific purpose of furthering Trump's image and politics was created here.

I'm out. I don't want to be here when it finishes becoming Cold Mississippi.

WTF are you talking about? Statewide elections since 2018 have consistently gone Democrat (or liberal in the case of the state supreme court) and with different parties controlling the legislature and the Governor's office, redistricting will be significantly less gerrymandered than they were 10 years ago.

2018 Senator - Baldwin (D)
2018 Governor - Evers (D)
2018 Supreme Court - Dallet (lib)
2020 Supreme Court - Karofsky (lib)


LOL. I forgot one:
2020 POTUS - Biden (D)
 
2021-07-13 11:29:53 PM  
So much for the Republicans being for free enterprise.
 
2021-07-13 11:34:10 PM  
And exactly how many major social media companies (or "big tech" as dopes refer to them) are actually based in Wisconsin and bound by its laws? Didn't Florida just try this?
 
2021-07-13 11:35:17 PM  
pheelix:

WTF are you talking about? Statewide elections since 2018 have consistently gone Democrat (or liberal in the case of the state supreme court) and with different parties controlling the legislature and the Governor's office, redistricting will be significantly less gerrymandered than they were 10 years ago.

Governor FAS wasn't in power that long ago, and you opted to elect Ron Johnson over Feingold.

I know you said since 2018, but that was only 2 years with a single election since; it's hardly an adequate sample size, and it doesn't address the monumental fark-ups that were created in the years prior.
 
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